A recent Rental Option post provoked a lot of discussion about the Woodner, located at 3636 16th St, NW. A resident wrote in asking to share his experiences (both good and bad). The history is quite interesting. Tony writes:

“I hear people get raped and mugged in that building all the time.”

“I hear the entire place has bedbugs.”

“Aren’t you afraid for your safety there?”

I’ve heard all of the above when I talk about life in the Woodner, a massive apartment complex with its own bar, grocery store, dry cleaner, and hair salon. People look at me with a strange mix of pity and bemusement. They usually following those questions with this one: How did you end up there?

I was in the process of moving back to the District from the suburbs and had seen at least fifteen apartments already. I was short on time. One of the sales consultants at the Woodner, a fresh faced kid with Dixie in his voice, must have sensed this and after viewing a few units, I settled on a carpeted unit on the 12th floor. One of the other sales associates later told me over a drink at the downstairs bar that he (along with the entire sales staff) got shuttled in and out of town in six week intervals. Oh, the things I learn in that bar.

The Woodner was built as an apartment and hotel in 1952. The sales staff here is fond of saying that it was the largest air conditioned building in the world when it was constructed. The lobby looks like it hasn’t been renovated since. Cracked marble floors spread out in odd curves and patterns. The first floor has pictures of this place in all of its former splendor. Black and white photos of Bob Hope and Duke Ellington and Jayne Mansfield. My favorite one is that of a guy with a pervy smile on his face getting shot with fake pistols by a gaggle of women crowded around him dressed as cowboys. I swear to God, when I move from here, that picture’s coming with me. Everything, the hall of pictures, the cracked marble, the spiral staircases, the swirls of spackle on the ceiling, it all imparts a sense of deep history to the place. Makes you wonder about your surroundings. Who stayed in my apartment? Was it ever anybody famous? What were their lives like? Did they have kids? What were their hopes and dreams and fears as they slept under the same roof that I sleep now?

Odd sirens and alarms wake you out of your reverie. It’s common to come home and see multiple police cars parked in front of the building. We never find out why, except under the most grave of circumstances, like when Nori Amaya, co-owner of Coppi’s Organic Restaurant was strangled to death last November. Management informed everyone with a flyer near the elevator banks on each floor. The crime is still unsolved. It’s a bizarre thought, to think that you could be sharing an elevator with a murderer.

And yet, the residents here are resilient. Given the building’s reputation, you’d expect the residents here to be hard-edged but the thing that amazed and continues to amaze me is how much nicer the people are here than they ever were out in the suburbs. When I first moved in, one of my neighbors helped me move my mattress. We talked for a bit about her job and my job and how long she’d been living in the building. Our conversation lasted three minutes and yet that was two minutes longer than the sum of all of my conversations with all of my neighbors in Fairfax.

Because of the kindness of so many of the residents, It’s hard not to feel a kinship with every resident of the building, one borne out of the sheer exhilaration of so many lives pressed up close to one another. Some of us have just arrived, some of us have been here for years. One night coming home from work, I met a woman on the elevator who’d been living in the building for fifty years now. “This was a nice building back then,” she said, shaking her head. “It still is,” she continued quietly. “But not as nice as it used to be.”


I’m not sure if I’ve shown this one before but the bamboo fence looks great. It’s also cool how they made a nook for the garbage cans.


I’ve never asked folks what they think of the piece of public art commisioned back in 1994 in Mt. Pleasant. I wonder what the debate was like before it was selected. Anyone from Mt. Pleasant remember the process? What’s the general feel – thumbs up or down?


I’ve always been curious about this building located at 1701 Park Road, NW in Mt. Pleasant.


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The Craigslist ad says:

“On-site Laundry, On-site Manager, Exercise Room, Bicycle Storage, High-Speed Internet, Hardwood Floors, Microwave, 9′ Ceilings”

You can find more info and photos here. Does $1100 sound reasonable for this efficiency?



1623 Monroe St NW

Featured Properties: 1623 Monroe St NW and 1612 Newton St NW

Original List Price: $499,000. and $529,000.

List Price at Contract: $499,000. and $499,000.

List Date: 10/09/2009 and 8/26/2009

Days on Market: 4 and 51

Settled Sales Price: $495,000. and $476,000.

Settlement Date: 11/30/2009 and 10/30/2009

Seller Subsidy: $0. in both cases

Bank Owned?: No and No

Type Of Financing: Conventional conforming ($417k or less financed) in both cases

Original GDoN Post is: here for 1623 Monroe St NW and here for 1612 Newton St NW.

Recent Listings are: here.

I know, I did Mount Pleasant last week for Good Deal or Not Revisited (GDoN-R), but there were some issues with the formatting for the ten years of data I compiled, so I thought I’d try again. These two houses were one block from each other, and both on the smallish side, neither with central air, and both ultimately priced the same. Comments on both original GDoN posts complained about the size of both properties and debated the desirability of the location.

What I tried to post last week was a ten year overview of sales data for houses (did not include condos) in Mount Pleasant. The data is not surprising but I think it shows an interesting overall perspective. We see a peak in average sales price in 2005, and as recently as 2007, the average sale was above list price. In 2008, Buyers had a little bit more negotiating room as the average property sold approximately 7% below list price. 2009 Buyers didn’t get to negotiate as much, but it looks like Sellers became somewhat more accommodating in their pricing, since the average sale price was down more than $20,000. Click here to see the report.


This home is located at 1807 Ingelside Terrace, NW:


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The flier says:

“EXQUISITE TUDOR, BACKING UP TO RCK CRK PK, MOVE-IN COND, NU WNDWS, NU KIT, NU MARBLE HALL BA (2ND FLR), REFIN FLRS, STEP-DOWN LIV RM W/ FRPLC, ORIG WROUGHT-IRON RAIL BET LR & STEP-UP DR. MBR/BA UP + 2 OTHER BRS. FINISHED LOWER LVL W/ FRPLC & 3RD BA, , 1 CAR BLT-IN GAR. YOU WILL LOVE THE WARMTH AND FEEL OF THIS HOME.”

You can find more info here and a virtual tour here.

Ingelside Terrace is one of my favorite streets in Mt. Pleasant so I was excited to see one of these tudors for sale. What do you think of the virtual tour? I was pretty blown away. Does $699,000 sound reasonable?


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