Stabbing by Grand China Carryout 3306 11th St, NW Tues. Night

Grand China Carryout 3306 11th St, NW courtesy of PoPville twitter follower adrian_parsons

Ed. Note: When breaking news occurs I usually post about it on twitter before the site here. You can follow PoPville on twitter here. You can also always send tips and photos to princeofpetworth(at) Thanks to all, especially HH57, for providing updates on last night’s terrible incident.

Per above, around 11pm a reader tweets, “police tape and cop cars out on 11th in between Park and Lamont. Rumors of a stabbing outside Chinese takeout place.”

A few moments later via email a reader writes, “Just walked out my front door to discover a stabbing right in front of the Grand China Carryout on the corner of 11th and Lamont NW 20 feet from the dog park.”

On twitter I was sent the horrible evidence (below) from HH57. It was noted that this particular area has been known as a hot spot for crime. (Personally I saw an arrest there last week at around 3pm in the afternoon.)

MPD tells me:

“We had a Latino male who was inside carryout and went outside carryout and saw two Latino males he began to argue with … he then went back into the carryout and the two males came in and one stabbed the victim..they then fled out the carryout SB on 11th ST … unknown motive”

More info as it becomes available.

Blood stained sidewalk after likely stabbing on 11th St outside of Grand China in Columbia Heights courtesy of PoPville twitter follower HH57

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  • Ok, while I appreciate the info re the incident, I could have done without the photo of the blood stained sidewalk.

    • +10,000,000

      Seriously, what’s the purpose of that photo? To “prove” someone got stabbed? I’ll take your word for it.

  • Why? That’s what happens when people are stabbed. Reality check.

    • The blood photo should have been after the jump (similar to torn-up animals by the hawks, and hopefully snake-related Afternoon Animal Fix) — I think that’s what EckingtonChick is getting at.

  • The block is hot son!. Wu-Tang

  • This maybe an inaccurate observation – but why does it seem that Latino altercations end in stabbings when black altercations end in shootings? Why does one group seem to have more access to guns? Is it a cost of the weapon thing? Are latino gangs poorer than black gangs? Just wondering.

    • It’s probably a legal precaution. Knives are legal. You’re not going to go to jail if you have a knife in your car or on your person.
      It could be style too. Knives are personal. You have to be right in from of your intended target, not a block away. It’s also pretty frigging hard to miss.

      • In all honesty, I would rather have stabbings than shootings if forced to choose between the two. (Neither is good, obviously.) It’s a lot harder to hit a bystander with a knife than if you’re a 19-year-old moron with a gun.

    • Not true, plenty of gun murders from the Latino crews over the past few years, some very recent. And if you venture out to Maryland and start considering MS13, forget about it. Depraved motherf’ers.

  • Your personal gastrointestinal issues aren’t really an apt analogy to the stabbing of a human being.

    I’m always saddened when people express the need to keep visceral reality from their lives (like this poster, or the people that flood the WP with complaints every time a photograph of any ugly reality appears in the newspaper). It’s easy to just intellectualize bad things so long as you don’t have to personally experience it in any manner. I think it’s a huge reason why there is such violence, why we have wars, why the homeless and hungry still exist in a land of plenty like the US.

    • This idea that if people understood that war is horrible we could just swear off war discounts much of both human nature and historical fact. War is fought by the very people who know what war is.

      I think if people grew up learning the classics, or history generally, these sorts of attitudes wouldn’t exist and the tragic view of human nature would be much better ingrained in blog commenters. I recommend a good war memoir from an enlisted man. Rarely do they learn what war is and decide what they fought for — and what their friends died for — wasn’t worth the effort or was just some big misunderstanding. War is part of the human experience. It’s a sad truth.

    • On the other hand, the risk of desensitizing people to violence or brutality is real when you flood them with images of the aftermath. People just start to think of it as normal or not all that shocking and stop thinking about it.

    • I think a larger reason for the wars is our dependence on foreign oil. But I do agree that in the US, the media tends to sanitize everything in the interest of not upsetting people too much (whether returning caskets to Dover, or in war/crime coverage). It is a lot more common to see blood and corpses in the news programs of European channles.

    • “It’s easy to just intellectualize bad things so long as you don’t have to personally experience it in any manner”

      Perhaps. But looking at a photo of red drops on concrete is not really “personally experiencing” the stabbing that put those drops there. Nor is looking at a photo of a stabbing victim. Unless (God forbid) the crime happened to you or someone you love or care about, you’re not going to really personally experiencing it.

      • Note the last clause of that sentence: “…in any manner.”

        I wasn’t suggesting that a photograph of an anonymous dying victim of violence would have the same emotional impact as a photograph of your child or parent dying from a gunshot wound. But there is plenty of evidence that making people see the results of such acts, even to anonymous people, has such impact. For example, the reaction to the photos of naked, burned Vietnamese child fleeing her napalmed village, and General Nguyen Ngoc Loan’s street execution of a suspected Viet Cong collaborator helped turn American attitudes about the war in Vietnam. The photos of Bull Connor’s Birmingham police siccing German Shepherds and turning water hoses on black students had tremendous impact on millions of people who didn’t know any of those students personally, and played a significant role in changing views about segregation.

        Obviously, this one photo of some bloodstains on a sidewalk don’t rise anywhere close to those examples. But it doesn’t change the fact that sanitizing the news to remove the blood and pain (literally or figuratively) is both philosophically and factually dishonest.

        • ^^^ This.

        • I don’t think that the reality of crime and violence in this City is as “hidden” to most people as the realities of the Vietnam War and the treatment of civil rights workers were hidden to most people of that era. But my objection to the photo is not because it’s a graphic reminder of a criminal act; my objection is that it’s meaningless without context. Whoever the victim is, whatever it was that led to this, it’s all been reduced to a few drops of blood on the ground. If you really want people to experience the impact of ths crime, give the victim a name and tell his story.

        • For every photo that you can cite that turned people towards peace and love, there are two that made them raging mad and want to start murdering. It’s easy to pick and choose. The dissemination of violent imagery isn’t going to stop violence. The ancients were exposed to violence each and every day, yet their societies were far more violent than ours. Did gladitorial games turn the Romans into peaceniks?

          If you insist that we see caskets coming back from wars, I insist that we see photos of women being mutilated in Africa. One photo might make someone think some war is a terrible idea, but that another one is a good idea.

          • Who said anything about peace and love? The posts by Anon pointed out that people need to see reality. Indeed, the Vietnam War photos led to a ertain amount of violent protest here and abroad, before ultimately waking up America to the fact that we, and our supposed allies, were doing some pretty terrible things, and what our government was telling us about the situation there was sanitized if not absolutely false.

            (But if intentional, nice straw man deflection!)

  • What time did it happen? I walked right by there at 10pm last night…

  • I walk by that place every day en route to the dog park and there are always people loitering around/dropping trash all over the stretch of sidewalk around there (between the dry cleaner and chinese spot)…a bit of a blight on an otherwise pretty great stretch of 11th (purse snatchings aside)

    • I concur. The laundromat is an issue too.

      • The laundromat is NOT an issue.

        There are a couple drunks that sit outside, but for the most part, that property is used by 99% people who need to wash their clothes and don’t have a washer/dryer at home. Young crew members and other thugs are the problem in our neighborhood, not people doing their laundry.

        • Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if the laundromat was a part of problem.

          Before we had the luxury of laundry at home, we went exclusively to that laundromat and, a couple years later, we still joke that it has to be a front of some kind. Yes, lots of neighborhood folks are just doing laundry, but there are also a LOT of people who definitely weren’t employed there going in and out of the employee only area. It may have just been kids partying in the back (maybe just underage drinking?), but there were also plenty of shady characters.

          I would love to see it under new, proper management – employees who are there when you need them, machines in better repair, generally less trashy, etc. Then it would be more of a benefit to the block.

  • No info on the status of the victim?

  • There was a stabbing there a few weeks ago too! A kid walked into the Grand China 4 pm on a weekday with a large wound on his hand, and yelling that he had been stabbed. He was dripping blood all over the floor of the restaurant, trying to get napkins. Crazy.

    It is just me, or has that corner seriously regressed over the past several months?

  • from what i can tell from the property database, the whole building (laundrymat+chinese+bakery) is owned by a Vietnamese owned company. i pray that one day they will tear the whole building down and build yuppy condos.

  • Crime in the Hispanic community? Somebody call Jim Graham! He’ll be right over to make sure the police back off and DC’s unwritten sanctuary city policy continues!

    When is DC going to get serious and recognize that the illegal immigrants are the ones supplying the crews with drugs? Solve one problem and you solve another.

  • “It’s just a flesh wound” Croc Dundee
    “if he dies….he dies” Russian in Rocky IV

  • How’s the food there? I’ve had a handful of times over the years and haven’t been impressed. In addition to food, they also sell cigarettes for $.25 each. It’s funny, they have a sign up which reads “we don’t sell single cigarettes” yet I’ve witnessed them selling single smokes to young kids and the homeless.

  • wow. lots of random comments. when we get more yuppy condos, peloponnesian war reading requirements, illegal immigration enforcement, and mandatory showing of caskets coming back from iraq and afghanistan and then decrease our oil dependency everything is going to be alright.

    this is definitely a weird corner. pet grooming, grand china, room 11. i would shed no tears if grand china shut down. i think the bakery and the laundromat are nice enough places. i am happy to see kids playing around the 11th and monroe park this week. all in all, 11th street is pretty nice. i can’t imagine grand china, the market at 13th and park, and arthur’s can stand to not sell in the near future.

  • I am just stunned these stabbings happened outside Grand China, rather than Room 11. Given the amount of uproar the arrival of a tiny wine bar inspired, I would have thought it would turn out to be a veritable mecca for drunken brawls and stabbings …

  • God! I live maybe 75 ft. from there. I cannot WAIT to leave this neighborhood. I loathe this place.

    The people from here don’t want me here, the stores around are crap, the service people are awful, and it goes on and on.

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