Update: Claims of Assault on Marine in Glover Park Disputed.

Update: The gofundme language now says (original language below):

“After spending the evening with friends, Corporal Michael Schroeder, was found with wounds that are consistent with being attacked from behind and kicked. Cash was most likely taken, though his wallet and phone were untouched, but at this time it is unconfirmed. The details lead us to believe that he was knocked unconscious and dragged in between two parked cars and left to die in temperatures below freezing.”

A local Glover Park businessman passes a message on from the ANC rep for the area:

“Hello all,

When I saw this story posted on the Glover Park Listserve yesterday, I immediately checked with the Commander for MPD’s 2nd District because I too was surprised to have not heard about this assault. The answer I received from Commander Melvin Gresham is that the incident was being treated as an accident and not an assault. In other words, the police believe the marine fell and hit his head after a night out.

I am in no position to know whether the police are correct or if the marine’s family is correct in their belief that he was assaulted. But as people look at this story and draw their own conclusions and decide how to act, please know that there are apparently two sides to this story.


Brian Turmail
Commissioner, ANC 3B-05 and
Chairman, Citizens Advisory Council for MPD’s 2nd District”

“Dear PoPville,

This attack Friday the 12th in Glover Park [ed. note: the gofundme says Feb. 11th so maybe it was after midnight?] received, from what I can find, zero press coverage. I am a former classmate of this man’s brother, and was hoping you might post a link to the gofundme campaign to help mitigate some expenses.”

An OIF Marine (1 Tour) became the target of a senseless act of cruelty on February 11, 2016. After spending the evening with friends, Corporal Michael Schroeder, was viciously attacked from behind, kicked, and robbed. He was knocked unconscious and dragged in between two parked cars and left to die in temperatures below freezing. He laid there for approximately 3 hours before two good samaritans found him and called 911. Michael was taken to George Washington University Hospital where he was treated for a fractured skull and observed while the doctors waited to see if the bleeding in his brain would stop. On Saturday, February 13, 2016, Michael was released from the hospital with the diagnosis of a major concussion and fractured skull. After several days at home, Michael’s condition worsened, his speech and motor skills were regressed, and he was brought back to the hospital for another three days. He has returned home and most likely will require physical, occupational, and speech therapies in order to gain back what was taken from him in this brutal, cowardly, and despicable attack.

The ripple affect of this attack goes beyond the physical injuries that Michael will heal from. He is a son, a brother, an uncle, and a friend. He is loved and he did not deserve the brutality of this attack nor does he deserve the trauma that will continue after the visible injuries and bruises have healed. Michael is my older brother. He has been there for me and this country and now it is time for us to be there for him. Thank you for you time, your thoughts and prayers, and any donation you can make. Every cent over what is needed to pay the medical costs, will be donated to the Recon and Sniper Foundation (501 3C).

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  • Get well soon Mike!! We were classmates together at Georegetown Prep. Praying for a speedy recovery brother.

  • In Glover Park? What the hell? Do we know if this was completely random (as it seems it may have been)? It’s probably the safest neighborhood in the District.

  • Another attack from behind? These pu$$ies wouldn’t dare fight face-to-face with a marine. This is sick and they need to be made an example of. Where is the press coverage?

    • HaileUnlikely

      Given that they likely did not known he was a Marine, I suspect they were most likely too cowardly to fight anybody face to face.

    • “I can find, zero press coverage.”

      Why did this not get more attention from the local press? There are 7,000ish robberies and aggravated assaults in DC yearly. There are probably more as I am sure MPD ‘massages’ the stats and downgrades some crimes. If we estimate that 10% are violent and just 1/4 of that subset are extremely violent we are easily looking at one serious attack every other day and I think that is a low estimate. That means a lot of serious attacks go underreported. Why was there so much coverage of McDonalds attack? There was video, the victim is a marine, there was the BLM element, the crime was black on white, proximity to FBI building – all elements that make the story sexy. The McDonalds attackers were teens, I feel for kids who have to attend school with kids like that. I remember how it was when the troublemakers would come around but at least back in my day the girls were not in the mix the way they are now.

      • Technically, the McDonalds crime could also be considered black on Hispanic. But, I get the larger point. Although, I’m actually surprised this didn’t get more attention given where it occurred. Unfortunately, a violent robbery in Shaw or Bloomingdale isn’t too surprising, but Glover Park?

      • Whether surprising or not, wouldn’t it be interesting if ALL such incidents, wherever they happened and whomever they happened to, were reported? Why shouldn’t they be news, just because attacks are common and fairly frequent?

  • I used to live in Glover Park, and while it is generally safe it is also right next to a main road near some nightspot that draw a very mixed clientele.

      • I mean, there were two strip clubs at one point, which did feel kind of uncomfortable. But otherwise I didn’t notice many issues with the strip along Wisconsin when I lived there.

        • One of those strip clubs used to have a lot of fights outside, and one of their patrons set the owner on fire one night, I think the building was partially destroyed.

        • I used to hang out in Glover Park when I was a teen, in large part due to the seedy bars near the strips clubs who would happily serve my underage self.

    • Mixed clientele like the boat shoes versus driving mocs? The clientele is pretty homogeneous (and basic).
      I’ve lived in GP for a long time – so can judge my neighbors.

      This didn’t even make the list serv. Really shocked and totally senseless.

      • …. I’m really surprised to hear it didn’t even make the listserv. I haven’t followed it since I moved last fall but Glover Park has a great listserv and people seem to be very aware of what’s happening in the neighborhood.

  • HaileUnlikely

    Reminds me of the assault several years ago somewhere in the Capitol Hill area where a young man (father of a small child) was hit in the head from behind with a baseball bat during a robbery, was not found until the next morning, and will likely be significantly disabled for the rest of his life.

  • Doesn’t VA cover this? What’s the donation for, then? Is it just an ancillary fundraiser?

    • The VA does not cover a veterans medical expensiveness that are unrelated to their time in. It stated above that this young man had served one tour.

    • Do you know anything about the VA? Have you read anything in the papers about them over the last few years? If he wanted to be on a waiting list for therapy for three years before receiving help then yes, the VA would totally cover it, except the quality would still most likely be awful. This man deserves our help now.

      • Accountering

        Your comment is unbelievably ignorant. The VA provides very good care to people within the system. The fact you are castigating others for their supposed lack of knowledge about the VA, and then promptly spouting wildly incorrect things, speaks volumes about you. I would hide behind an Anon if I was going to spout ignorant, incorrect statements as well.

        • “The VA provides very good care to people within the system.” I’m not familiar with the quality of care per se, but isn’t it reasonable to be a little concerned with the timeliness of care, given the major problems with VA management manipulating the numbers to make it appear that people had shorter wait times for initial appointments, etc.?
          (This is of course tangential to Anony’s question, which was about _whether_ the VA covered care.)

        • Accountering

          I am going to resurrect the dummy of the day, in honor of Anon’s comment above. You sir, have won it today. I award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

          • Accountering, may god have mercy on your soul. There are real individuals suffering due to inadequate VA healthcare and you are making jokes at our expense. Please take time to consider your remarks before posting. I don’t know if you are in “the system” or not, but it’s not an easy system to work through. It’s especially difficult to work through when they made mistakes in previous medical procedures. I’ve had several cadaver bone implants and bone grafts that have caused numerous problems. It seems to be an easy procedure for the private sector to get correct, but not at the VA.

          • Chill out, Accountering. I think a lot of people believe that the VA is mismanaged and doesn’t always provide quality, timely care. Because that’s what we read in the papers. I have a couple of former military folks on my payroll, and they are SO happy to switch to our middling private health insurance. Commenters below seem to concur.

          • Accountering

            I am not making jokes on behalf of any veterans, simply on behalf of the guy who called someone else out for their lack of knowledge, and then promptly spouted off ignorance.
            Anecdotes aside, I think the VA does a fine job providing care to people within the system, with improvement always possible. On an aside, I certainly support the VA, believe they should get the funding necessary to provide high quality care to anyone who has earned it, and support anything that can be done to improve the experience for people in the system. I don’t, however, agree with forming my opinions based on anecdote. What happened in Phoenix was terrible, but that is a place where improvement is necessary, not an indictment on the entire system of Veterans healthcare.

        • I wouldn’t go to far on singing the VA praises. I called two weeks ago to schedule an appointment to see my PCM. They gave me her first available appointment. I only have 29 more days until that appointment!

          • I have private healthcare and I sometimes have to wait that long to see my ob/gyn because she and everyone else in her practice are extremely popular.

        • Speaking as a Veteran in the system, I can say it does not provide good care. It’s a frustrating experience. Mistakes in military healthcare for injuries and the VA aftermath have left me health problems that will affect me for the rest of my life.

          • this argument is moot since (according to the description) Corporal Michael Schroeder is still an active Marine. VA only covers veterans, fewer than half of which are actually eligible for VA services.

          • I am a disabled vet. I was in the special ops community for a while and have a multitude of issues requiring several appointments. I had great and timely care at the DC VA, but if I had to guess the quality of care at that location is probably top tier compared to other locations. They screwed up my rating initially and I had to go get re-tested for some stuff, but scheduling the appointments wasn’t too bad and I was usually able to get in within a week. One of the techs doing some scans for me mentioned that he left his civilian job to come work at the VA because the hospital had all the brand new state of the art technology. I think possibly where the system falls apart is in more rural areas where clinics are smaller, wait times are likely longer, and you probably have to drive several hours for care. But my experience was all positive.

        • You have no clue what you’re talking about. The VA is a mess, and I have firsthand knowledge of that from both inside and out: my uncle is a nurse at a VA hospital who has plenty of horror stories to tell, and a very good friend of mine who is an Iraq veteran has suffered from their terrible level of service.

          • Accountering

            While, anecdotes aside, my response was simply to him stating that you will be on a waitlist for 3 years, and then likely receive “awful” care. I do not believe that to be the truth whatsoever, and again, anecdotes aside, understand that overall, the VA does quite a good job providing care to people within the system.
            Let’s not pretend like normal hospitals and doctors are the end-all be-all. There is PLENTY of issues with health care in America, and I think overall, the VA does a fine job providing care to millions of veterans every year. Of course, there is always room for improvement.

          • Accountering – it seems to me that the issue several people may have here is that you’re being quite aggressive in defending the VA without citing any firsthand experience with them. As KCK said, we don’t know if you’re in the system. But I think it’s unfair of you to take the “my opinion is right because it’s what i think and so it must be true” route. Different people can have different experiences and opinions and that’s okay.

          • Accountering

            Yes, I think it is ignorant to bash someone for mentioned the VA, and then talk of 3 year waitlists, and awful care. That is simply not the case for the majority. Yes, I refuse to believe in conspiracy theories, and the like, and if the norm was 3 year waitlists and awful care, I trust that it would have been fixed or privatized at this point.

          • That’s second-hand knowledge. Not first-hand. First hand would be your own personal healthcare experience as a veteran.

          • Whatever, you know what I mean. It’s different than just reading about it.

        • Accountering, As someone who has personally worked with the VA, I have to take your comments of someone who either works there or possibility knows someone and while that person might do the best they can the entire system is severely flawed. Personally I would never take money from them as consultant as they were too frustrating to work with. They paid for a system they dearly needed, but would never return the calls to complete the project. While I didn’t work with medical equipment or services, the way they ran their projects was horrible.

        • I love when folks on here say “hide behind anon”, like “Accountering” etc. provides such more information or isn’t as anonymous. Please get over yourselves.

          • There’s a difference between “regular PoPville commenter identifiable by regular handle” and “This could be anyone — a regular going anonymous, a lurker, a troll.”

          • NOPE. It’s all equal. I don’t care if you comment every day or once a year – I don’t who you are under your handle.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I agree with textdoc, and would add that many of the regulars, despite not posting our own names, have provided enough info over the past months or years that somebody with decent search skills and a couple hours to kill could identify many of us.

          • Agree with textdoc + haileunlikely. Not to mention that many of us have met in person at some point.

    • If this guy is an actual Corporal, it wouldn’t be the VA, it would be the DOD facility to which he is assigned. Though, the web sites are referring to him as 35 which is a very advanced E4. If he is a separated Corporal, then yes, he has access to the VA for 5 years after discharge because of the status of an Iraq/Afghanistan veteran. Moreover, if the veteran in question has little or no income, they can receive even more care.

  • There needs to an action taken by our elected “leaders” that registers with the public (or at least me) that they give an ounce of sht about people have have, and will be attacked, shot, assaulted in this city, and I’m not talking about handing out $9K/ year to those who don’t get caught committing crime. How about a curfew? How about ankle monitoring for those convicted of a crime and allowed back on the street? I’d participate in a march on the Wilson building on this issue. How about it, concerned ANCs?

    • As far as ankle monitoring is concerned, its my understanding that its not actively monitored in real time. Its more of a historical audit trail.

      • Right. So when a crime is committed, check to see who was in the area at the time. If it’s true that the majority of crime is committed by a few known perpetrators, then most investigations should start and end with the usual suspects.

      • So how is it that I can basically lo-jack my son with autism and monitor him through my smartphone, but DC can’t keep track of someone with an ankle bracelet? Honest question.

      • Like most things in life, it depends. The system can be set up to alert parole officers that somebody’s doing something outside of whatever pattern has been established. So, for example, someone in Glover Park at 3AM who is supposed to be at home because of their court-directed curfew would ping the court and/or law enforcement agency responsible for enforcing the terms of release. If the perps here have records, keeping them on monitoring absolutely could have made a difference in this case.

    • Hate to sounds fatalistic. But, crime is the third-rail of DC politics. Our political leaders have been clear on the issue: nothing big is going to change in the near term. If you want improved public safety in a walkable environment move to Arlington.

      • Sadly, tom is correct.

      • I get that, I’ve lived here for going on 20 years. But in all of that time, I have never seen an actual public demonstration to call out the violence that is regularly perpetrated on our streets and the lack of public action by elected officials to stop it. I have participated in vigils (where victims are justifiable mourned), crime meetings (keep your porch light on!) and elections (useless), but I’ve never seen a public protest about it. Being able to walk the streets and ride the Metro without fear of being attacked is a civil rights issue. Perhaps a press-covered rally at t Bowser’s new Colonial Village house, or better still Grossso’s house, IMO, the WORST of the lot of them.

        • I’m with you, Tees! Very well said. I’ve been recently attacked by a group of young men on the Metro and have started paying much more attention to crime. I generally agree with the leaders of BLM, I think Stop and Frisk is wrong, but our gov’t officials have got to start taking crime seriously. We need a NYC style focus on crime (without the racism). We need a “vision zero” mindset.
          Yes, it’s wrong if gov’t only takes crime seriously after gentrification, but isn’t it better for everyone than ignoring crime all together? And the gentrification can be reversed – Walkscore doesn’t mean anything if people are afraid to be on the streets. Professionals have been moving further east in part because they can see how crime has decreased and they expect the trend to continue. If we have another year of 150+ murders etc. the perception will change.

  • More national news coverage on attacks on Marines on the DC streets might force Bowser to actually do something significant to reduce crime versus what is currently happening.

  • This reminds me of the David Rosenbaum death, so in the respect that he was found, he is very lucky. I hope this man recovers soon.
    For those saying how safe Glover Park is, I think this is a good reminder that crime can occur anywhere in the city. This is a particularly heinous assault, and it should be shocking anywhere that it occurs in the city and to any victim, regardless of where they went to school or if they served in the military.

    • Of course crime can occur anywhere in the city to anyone, but I think it speaks to the state of crime in the District when random attacks begin to occur in places that are generally more sheltered (i.e. off the metro) and historically pretty safe (I remember when I moved to Glover Park a few years ago there were very few crimes reported and most were thefts from cars).

      • Since crime can occur anywhere in the city to anyone, it’s really not surprising when a “more sheltered” and “historically pretty safe” area has its rare encounter with violent crime.

        • Right… but is it still as rare as it used to be even two or three years ago? I remember reading a post on PoPville last fall(?) about a woman who was almost assaulted trying to get her kid buckled into her car. There were also a couple muggings in the area last year.
          I’m actually kind of curious if there is *actually* an uptick in this area (does it go along with the district-wide uptick in crime?) and if any specific new construction, etc. correlated with it, or if criminals are just like “hey let’s go hang out in this area that’s kind of hard to get to and assault some random people.”

  • He too must have bad mouthed BLM, wasnt aware of his surroundings, was looking at his cellphone, was out too late, the atackers were desperate for “good jobs”, there’s too much god damn gentrification ….blah, blah, blah

    • Yeah, or he could have mouthed off to some drunk G-Town frat boys or suburbanites who then decided to follow and beat the crap out of him. If we are going to speculate, why not include a more likely scenario given that this happened in Glover Park.

      • “More likely”… lol

        • He was robbed and “He was knocked unconscious and dragged in between two parked cars and left to die” sounds more calculated than a random attack by teen(s). I picture teens attacking, grabbing phone / wallet and just running off. I hope they catch the perpetrator(s) and I hope this gentleman recovers.

        • Certainly “as likely.”
          The bottom line is that no one here has any idea what happened. So the scenarios people concoct say more about their particular world view than what actually happened.
          I wish him the best and pray for his complete recovery.

          • I agree with this.

          • Agreed that everyone is just speculating on who the perpetrators could be and that comments on this site (and others) tend to reveal depressing world views.

            That said, “just as likely” is a little disingenuous I think. Based on DC crime stats, one is far more likely than the other when it comes to robbery by force and violence.

          • how many assaults by teens have you read about in the past week? and when was the last time you read about a g-town frat boy assault? definitely not “as likely” according to crime statistics. of course no one exactly knows, but i don’t think making an educated guess qualifies someone as a bigot.

      • Haha, yup then took his wallet and phone because that’s usually how it goes down. Quit ignoring the fact that this was likely targeted and committed by the same folks that seem to terrorize innocent citizens throughout the city

      • This is complete nonsense and you know it.

      • This is exactly the type of response that qualifies as above blah, blah, blah. We all know exactly what kind of types committed this crime and no amount of mindless counter speculation can change that. You yourself, Anonymous, cross the street and take the alternate route when faced with the types I’m talking about so quit playing dumb.

        • MS_76 Why don’t you define “the types” you’re talking about? If you believe it so strongly, you should say it.

          That little moment of hesitation you’re feeling– live in it a moment and realize that you have some deep-seated racist ideas that might benefit from some therapy.

          • jenk, are you saying there isn’t a “type” committing the vast majority of the street crime in dc? i’m not sure that’s an argument you can win.

        • I’m saying if you’re going to be racist, don’t hide behind euphemisms.

    • Those Bureau of Land Management thugs need to be stopped!

  • I was the victim of an assault 10 years ago with similar injuries and understand the uphill battle, especially emotionally, that something like this causes. He/his family should also know there are victim compensation funds that he can apply for that will help out as he recovers as well. http://www.dccourts.gov/internet/superior/crimevictim/main.jsf

    Get well soon !

  • nightborn

    Absolutely horrible.

  • This is horrible. My SO was hit in the head from behind and left unconscious (though thankfully he’s ok). All they took was his Metro card. This happens way too often. Sending positive thoughts Michael’s way.

  • A bit of a sidebar: why have GoFundMe drives become a thing when something terrible like this happens? Is it because there’s no party to sue for damages yet? I’m fortunate enough to have never had to deal with a sudden and serious hospitalization, but in the event that you get brutally assaulted and injured, are you really left on the hook for $60k even after insurance? My relative ignorance of our seemingly terrible healthcare system may have left me totally blinded here.

    • binntp

      I work with people who have medical debt and can answer that sadly, yes, you often are on the hook for such expenses. Some providers/hospitals have charitable programs to help those with inadequate insurance/income, and sometimes you can negotiate your bills. But a lot of times these types of expenses go into collections and create a hellish situation in terms of ruining your credit, having debt collectors pursuing you relentlessly, etc. I would suspect that even though this person might qualify for Crime Victim’s Compensation, the process to access that funding might be lengthy, and that’s why such appeals are made.

      • Several years ago the New York Times did a series on people with huge amounts of healthcare debt (and maybe even healthcare-related bankruptcy; I don’t remember the details). I was astonished to learn that most people with healthcare debt DO have health insurance.

        • Yeah, that’s something that really bugs me about the US healthcare system. Insurance, no insurance–treatment, tests, doctors, etc. are EXPENSIVE! Unless you have super awesome health insurance (which not many people do these days), you’re still on the hook with a ton of bills. Then you also have the in network, out of network nightmare and ugh it’s really one of the most frustrating things ever.

        • Yes,it is a major cause of bankruptcy, of people with health insurance.

        • HaileUnlikely

          I wonder whether the Affordable Care Act’s prohibition of lifetime maximum benefits and exclusions for pre-existing conditions will change that. Sure, people with high-deductible plans can still end up paying several thousand dollars a year for healthcare expenses, but I am hoping that the days of hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills due to pre-existing condition exclusions and exceedances of annual or lifetime max payout are gone forever.

          • binntp

            It might help some populations, but does little with regard to others. As an example, someone with Medicare who spends over 90 days in the hospital pays $644/day (for up to 60 days over their lifetime) and then after that 60 day reserve is responsible for the full daily stay. That’s not even counting the cost of actual services they receive–just the physical bed/use of the facility fee.

  • 1. We need more police.
    2. It is long past time to end the catch and release program. If somebody is charged with a violent crime, they stay in jail until their trial.
    3. Those over 14 involved in violent crimes need to be charged as adults in all cases. No more charging them as juvinilles.
    4. Prison sentences for all violent offenses need to be much longer.
    5. No more “trading down” for violent offenses. If you are involved in a violent crime, you get charged with the violent crime to the highest possible extent.
    6. Attempted murder needs to be used more often with all violent crimes.
    7. We are long past time to bring back the plain clothes officers and vice squads. Jump outs included.

    I can go on and on. But this would be a good start. We should be a city where anybody who is a violent criminal is actively afraid of both the police and the justice system. No more making excuses for violent criminals. These are not sympathetic characters. One can be poor without being actively violent. But those who are actively violent deserve no sympathy, no restraint, and deserve to be removed from society.

    • Yes. I remeber reading that some people who said they were part of the BLM movement protested when the mayor proposed tougher sentencing for violent crimes (IIRC, it was only a token proposal for crimes against Metro workers). My understanding of BLM is that it is against police brutality and injustice in sentencing, not about protecting violent people. There is no place in our society for violent people. It’s one thing to steal, and another to commit or threaten an act of violence.
      Looking at the video of the Marine at McDonald’s, I would like to see the monster who hit him while he was on the ground get charged with attempted murder.

    • We also need people to not automatically believe everything they read on a listserv.

  • Wishing you all of the best, Michael. I am so sorry this happened to you. So senseless.

  • Wishing you a speedy recovery Marine.

  • So will this post be updated to reflect the fact that MPD now believes this dude tripped and fell?

    • I was wondering about that too – it doesn’t sound like the police are going to investigate. Meanwhile, I think this happened directly in front of my friend’s apartment, which is incredibly scary…

    • Was he robbed then he fell? Where has this been reported?

      • There’s an email from a MPD investigator on the Glover Park listserv. Their investigation is over. They believe he slipped and fell while drunk and is making the rest up.

        • $35k+ was raised for him on the premise that he was attacked. I don’t begrudge him the money, since it sounds like his injuries are serious, but I bet a lot of people would not have donated if they knew that the police determined his injuries were actually the result of a drunken fall. The GoFundMe page still states that he was the target of a “senseless act of cruelty,” though they now admit that it is “unconfirmed” that he was robbed (and that he still had his wallet and phone). Wonder what GoFundMe’s responsibility is in situations like these?

          • Go fundme can’t be responsible for the integrity of the fundraising campaigns. There have been fundraisers to create documentaries, exhibits, fire relief etc and people donate at their own discretion it’s only a matter of time people start using it as a hustle and for nefarious reasons. This was basically fraud

          • Did the police release any evidence that this was a fall and not an attack? Per the video on channel 9 the dude appeared to be walking perfectly… No stumbling and nothing in the video (the only firm evidence available) that would lead someone to believe that this person was physically incapacitated or likely to trip and fall within a few steps of where he leaves the frame. He was walking perfectly. Also… Channel 9 reported that the dude appeared intoxicated per the police report. If he was really found face down and bleeding with a fractured skull would’nt he appear dead. And not drunk. Maybe they woke him up and Perhaps the drunken appearance could be due to trouble speaking due to a fractured skull. I am not a doctor but I would imagine it would be hard to speak after receiving that type of trauma to the head.

            Based solely on the video on the dude walking I would tend to believe an attack update be more likely than a fall. nevertheless I am sure that the police must have throughly investigated this in the days following the attack and must have some additional information that the public is not privy to if they can state publicly, through an intermediary, that this was a absolutely a fall.

          • As someone who donated 50 bucks, I’m irritated by this latest update. Like you, I don’t begrudge the guy some financial assistance – regardless of the cause, it’s apparently not disputed that he’s suffered some serious injuries. But I do like to know the truth about what I’m donating to. A ruthless, cowardly attack from behind is a LOT different than a drunken slip n fall. I really hope his family/friends did not intentionally deceive the public to raise this cash…

          • HaileUnlikely

            He may well not even know whether he was attacked or whether he just fell. And if he doesn’t know, it is unlikely that anybody else does, either, unless there were witnesses, which it does not sound like there were.
            If that is the case, the closest we are likely to ever come to knowing what happened is some medical assessment of whether he had other visible injuries consistent with being attacked by a person possibly wielding an object or if the only injury he has is consistent with impact with a large hard flat surface that might resemble a road or similar. Even that would not be 100% definitive, but is likely the closest anybody in the galaxy will ever come to knowing what happened to him.

            I realize that is monumentally unsatisfying to everybody, including Mr. Schroeder, his family and friends, and people who made donations, but we may not ever be able to know more.

  • Crazy this got no media coverage.
    Poor guy :/.

    • No coverage because there appears to be no assault or robbery.

      • What evidence is there of a fall? The only real evidence that has been shown is some dude walking perfectly across a parking lot… No sign of any impairment or stumbling…. And then dude turns the corner and ends up with a fractured skull. Based on the video… The only thing we can really rely on… I think there is a better chance that he was attacked rather than falling. (Based purely on how he was walking in the video) Then again. I am sure the police investigated this thoroughly in the days after the attack and must have some sort of evidence that is so irrefutable that they could reach out to the public, through an intermediary, and declare this is, beyond a shadow of a doubt a fall? I would like to see the video of the fall or perhaps hear from an eyewitness.

        The police report said that he appeared intoxicated at the scene and I guess the dude admitted he was drinking at the bar. Nevertheless could the appearance of intoxication be due to the skull fracture? I am not a doctor but I would imagine a person with severe head trauma might act like he was drunk (slurring his words and perhaps having trouble with balance).

        • If there was a video of the fall or an eyewitness, the new language on the gofundme page would not speak in terms of him having injuries “consistent” with an attack and cash “most likely taken” (even though his wallet wasn’t touched); as opposed to the original language which declared that he had definitely been beaten and robbed.
          A guy was found unconscious with a head injury and people used their own imagination and fears to fill in the blanks.

  • I just watched the Channel 9 video report, and something sounds off. They show the video, where he’s walking a perfectly straight line, not staggering, not off in his pace in any way, right before whatever happened took place. They also report that he had a BAC of .12, which, while certainly enough that you shouldn’t be driving a car, shouldn’t be enough to get someone to the point of falling down trying to walk down the street. Further, his injuries are to the back of his head. I don’t know about the rest of you, but almost every person I’ve ever seen fall down from drinking fell forward, not backwards. So, I’d say the chances that some third party was involved are high.

    • HaileUnlikely

      Was that .12 at the time the test was administered or estimated .12 at the time of the incident based on a lower test result hours later and some extrapolation to estimate what it was at the time of the incident? Given that he is not presently subject to a criminal investigation in which he himself is accused of a crime, I don’t think they would have yet produced an estimate of his BAC at the time of the incident. If he was .12 when tested, which would necessarily have been at least two hours after the incident and probably longer, he was probably somewhere in the .16 – .20 range at the time of the incident.

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