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  • SSDD

  • SSDD agreed. Last night sucked. So sick of people who will practically take a running jump into a completely packed car, even thought there’s 3 more trains on the board within the next few minutes.
    Also, given that I think there are zero 8 car trains in the system right now (all 4000s out, both 7000s out), they need badly to put up some temporary signage in the big stations. There were huge gaggles of tourists waiting at the end of the platforms at GP with no chance of ever getting on a train unless they walked forward.

    • Is that Metro’s fault though? There is a screen with the upcoming trains and how many cars they are. Letting one 6 car train pass them by is fine, but by that point they should know where it stops on the platform.

      • Actually, yes. Good luck with that on the Shady Grove bound platform at GP based on where the only PID is located. I test consistently at 20/15 both eyes, yet coming up from the Green/Yellow tracks there’s no way to distinguish the 6 from 8.

        • Emmaleigh504

          There used to be a metro worker who would stand at the end of the platform and look at the pid with binoculars! So he could tell people to move down or not. I wish he would come back.

          • This is hilariously amazing. Maybe they should install another PID closer to where 80% of the people enter the platform…

          • I have a metro app that lists the number of cars on the train, I check it on my way up the escalator to the Shady Grove platform to see if I can avoid the cluster. Sadly that’s not possible without any 8 car trains.

      • Not their fault, but I agree Chinatown’s layout mixes especially poorly with idiot tourists. The platform is always packed annoyingly full near the intersection bit, and there are often nearly empty cars at the ends of the platform… IF you can get past them to get to it. Some sort of “move ahead” sign or message there would help everyone out, arguably.
        Although common sense (so hard to find) should make people think blocking off the entire width of a train platform isn’t wise.

      • At Gallery Place the screen is often very far from the entrance and impossible to read. There’s often no way to tell if the next train is 6 or 8 cars so everyone jams up the middle of the platform in order to “guarantee” that they get the next train.

        • While on the subject of the PIDs, can we talk about how poorly designed they are at their core?
          The ones beyond the turnstiles list the next 3 trains. At stations likeL’Enfant, with Orange, Blue, Silver, Green, and Yellow lines in both directions — that’s useless.
          And they timeshare with information that (no disrespect meant to them) only 5% or so of the population needs — the elevator outages (often at different stations that they may not be going to anyway). One piece of information everyone on the platform would like to know, “how long till the next train (and which line is next)”, and almost every time I look up, it’s not even being displayed. Put the elevator outage information on a big board by the turnstiles and put the relevant information on the platform, ffs.

          • Tsar of Truxton

            To be fair, I think they try not to post trains as they are entering the station because they do not want people running through the station/gates, so the next train info posted is pretty much useless as well. Anything listed on that PID is far enough out that you will see it when you get to the platform.

          • @RKM – fair point. The entire concept of the “beyond-turnstile” PID is useless.

      • Come on. If you’re not from here you have no idea the relationship between 6 and 8, and where on the platform the cars stop. In most properly functioning subway systems the trains stop somewhere in the middle of the platform. They don’t pull all the way up because drivers can’t be trusted to remember how many cars they’re pulling.

      • It is Metro’s fault because tourists don’t know that the trains pull all the way up to the front.

    • I think I missed some news – what’s up with the 7000s? And when might we expect the delivery of more? (because, seemingly, that would help out hugely right about now)

      • They’ve been pulled from service for a software update.

        Yes. The brand new cars. Need an update.

  • I think it’s time WMATA starts hiring the white gloved people pushers of Japan.

  • How many times did a train pass without letting anyone on? Last week during afternoon rush hour, we tried to get on an 8 car train on a packed platform. So many people got off the train that the doors closed before anyone could actually get on. The train left half empty and the platform was still completed jammed full of people. What is the point of this?

    • Pretty sure the train operators get dinged if they don’t stick to the schedule. It’s all so so so stupid.

    • The goal is to move as many trains through the system as possible not as many people as possible.

  • This was discussed last week, but the Red Line headways are now much larger than they were. They used to be every 1-3 minutes during rush hour, but now seem to be every 4-6. With the number of people on the entire line, this makes a huge difference. Plus most are 6 car trains (though counter to Metro info, I have seen some 8 car trains). I understand the 4000 cars are out of service, but I thought that would just lessen the cars per train, not the number of trains. The Red Line was actually running great the past few months until a couple weeks ago – we got spoiled!

  • Bicycle.

  • you all go to work too late.

    • Ha ha. Or too early – Gallery Place looked nothing like that photo 20-25 minutes later.

    • Haha! Seriously. I’m at work by 7:15 and it seems like everyone has a seat and is comfortable. And I typically make it in before there is time for a serious meltdown.

    • Make sure you early-arrivers don’t strain an arm while patting yourselves on the back.

  • I chose to walk home 45 min in the heat advisory last night over dealing with this BS. Still better…

    • Bus, bus, bus, bus, bus, BUS. This times 1,000,000. I still don’t understand why people suffer when we have a ridiculous bus system that practically gets you everywhere in the District (within a 5 to 10 minute walk).

      • Shhh!!! Don’t tell anyone about this hidden little gem or everyone will start taking the bus and there won’t be room for us anymore! 😉

        Seriously- I started taking the bus last year and it has changed my life. It may take a little longer- but usually not by much, given the wait times for trains. Air-conditioned, reliable (maybe I’ve just been lucky?), and takes me everywhere. And the Circulator is cool beans too.

        But again- let’s keep it to ourselves, shall we?

        • This!! I moved to DC in December. Took the Metro for all of 2 weeks before I discovered how much more reliable and convenient the bus system is. Sure it takes a little while to figure out the routes (and I’m lucky that I live on the same block as an ideal bus route and a 2 blocks away from a major route) and a few minutes longer, but I love love love the bus compared to the train. Almost every time I’m running behind and “think” the train will be faster, I end up in a cluster like the picture above.

          • The buses are faster than metro if both your start and end are near a major bus route that doesn’t require a transfer. From where I live, metro could be delayed by 15 minutes and still beat the available bus routes handily, and that’s with one transfer at Metro Center or the dreaded Gallery Place.

          • +1, my bus commute in the morning is the same as metro or actually shorter. When I factor in the time it takes to walk down a minimum of 2 levels to reach a metro platform, transfer and change platform levels, and walk up a minimum of 2 levels to get out of the station, my bus commute is actually faster and way more relaxing. And if there is a meltdown on the bus, I just get off the bus.

          • Dog- you can transfer buses and still beat metro. With my 10 min walk to metro, I do it daily.
            I do agree that many people don’t have good bus options, but I feel more people could utilize it if they looked. My roomie was taking metro to her job, and once I find out, I showed her the quick bus route that stopped right out front. I think some people just get the wrong impression of buses which is good for me because I always get a seat.

          • I would love to be able to take the bus to work and ditch the trains. Unfortunately, there isn’t a direct route from home to office without transferring. When not working, I either bike or take the bus. Getting in and out of the metro stations is a chore in and of its own.

      • It’s probably because the bus is only marginally faster than walking.

      • It turns out there’s logical reasons the bus isn’t always a great option over metro!

        Some lines have so many stops that it’s not any faster (16th Street buses, I’m looking at you).

        I’ve also had multiple buses in a row blow past me down RI Ave in Bloomingdale because they’re completely full during rush hour — more than once. Not something you necessarily want to count on to get you to work at a standard time.

      • Yeah, and the bus was even lovelier than usual this morning. Flew from Spring & 16th to K Street in 17 minutes. And that was the S2, not even the S9.
        That’s not even mentioning the amazing driver I had on the 54 last night. Middle of the storm, with 14th Street closed at Euclid because of a fire, and she had a whole bus of people cheering for her as she ran outside (in the pouring rain) to frantically wave cars off side streets so she could take us up 13th instead.
        Hard to imagine any train employee doing even close to that much just to get passengers to their destinations.

        • That is pretty amazing.
          I hope you write in a commendation to WMATA! This stuff actually matters to driver performance reviews.

      • Some bus lines are completely packed and move at a snails’ pace at rush hour, though (thinking especially of the S lines, X2 and 90/92). 🙁

      • The efficiency of bus vs. Metro really depends on where you live and where you’re trying to go — in many cases, the bus takes a LOT longer and requires transferring to Metrorail or to another bus.
        I do NOT miss having to take the 42 bus (followed by Metrorail) at all. Southbound, the route starts in Mount Pleasant, but I remember that the bus was often so full by Adams Morgan that it couldn’t/wouldn’t pick up additional passengers in the western Adams Morgan/Kalorama area. And it stopped at EVERY SINGLE STOP.

        • justinbc

          +1, very location dependent. Ain’t nothing wrong with some good ole fashioned walking exercise.

        • All true. I’m lucky to live near several bus lines and Union Station so I have lots of options. But I think what trumps all for me is that at least I can get off the bus and I’m not trapped underground.

      • Thank for the tip, I had no idea buses existed. There is literally no good bus system to get me from my work to my home. I would have to take 3 and it would take forever. I just work/live in two very disconnected areas.

        • Also I don’t mind the walk, even in the heat. I like the exercise. It’s in the winter that I can’t really walk.

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