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“Cars (especially with out of state license plates) are getting their tires slashed on K St, NE”

by Prince Of Petworth — April 10, 2017 at 12:30 pm 47 Comments

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“Dear PoPville,

Cars with out of state license plates are getting their tires slashed on K St. NE–

Both my roommate (who has a Louisiana tag) and myself (Mississippi tag) got our passenger side tires slashed last night [Saturday]. When she took her car over to the tire shop on Florida Ave (Mac’s) he told her that at least 10 other folks who live on K street had been in to get their tires fixed this morning, all out of state. Police said it was everyone (including DC tags) but all the DC tags were fine on my block and I only saw out of state tags at the tire store. Just FYI. “

  • Tom

    I see the “Get A Residential Permit” initiative is coming along nicely

    • Tom

      My mind isn’t moving too quickly today, are you suggesting this post attracts more people tagging their cars and getting RPPs in the District?

  • Denise4000

    It is getting crowded in DC. DC residents are sick and tired of out of town folks taking up parking spaces. But if you live here get you darn tags.

    • Anon Spock

      How is forcing someone to swap plates alleviating parking congestion? You can also get a rpp and maintain out of state plates.

      • anondc

        By having folks who live in the city “swap” plates the city at least has some way of estimating the number of cars that will be here. With that, they can make assessments about whether the level of parking is adequate and use plate fees to create additional parking if the city were so inclined. That’s one way “forcing someone to swap plates” could alleviate parking congestion.

        Another alternative to alleviate parking and traffic congestion, that many DC residents would be happy with, would be to restrict all non-metered parking to RPPs, visitor passes and very expensive out-of-state permits for non-residents (or residents who prefer not to “swap” their plates for whatever idiosyncratic reason they have).

        • textdoc

          “With that, they can make assessments about whether the level of parking is adequate and use plate fees to create additional parking if the city were so inclined.”
          .
          I don’t think the city is doing that, and I doubt that the city cares to do so. The only place where the city is looking at supply/demand of parking is metered parking (so it can figure out where to try “variable pricing”), not RPP street parking.

          • anondc

            I agree, I was responding to how the city could use plate info. to alleviate parking congestion. Whether the city cares to use readily available information to improve the lives of residents..I doubt it.

          • Anon

            I’m confused about how they would create additional parking. Create more streets?

          • anon

            You create additional parking by increasing the price of parking until supply and demand are better matched. People who aren’t willing/able to pay for parking can choose other methods of transportation or just go elsewhere (or maybe just spend less on their car and more on its storage). This is how one adequately distributes a scarce resource efficiently; price appropriately and the market handles the rest.

          • Anon X

            Its a crime that we have so much street parking that congests the entire city and relatively so little underground parking. Raise prices, mandate new underground garages get built and make them bigger, and start eliminating street parking on main arteries.

      • textdoc

        How can you get an RPP with out-of-state plates? I thought the only way to do that was to have reciprocity as a congressional employee, student, or member of the military.

        • Anon Spock

          Part-time resident….and all those other ways you mentioned.

        • Anonymous

          There’s a temporary RPP you can get if you’re here only for a portion of the year while still keeping your out-of-state tags. It’s very expensive ($250-300 for 6 months, IIRC).

          • Anon Spock

            Part-time is just as expensive but is renewable annually. Price is the same but for a year. Temporary is 6 months only once.

    • kanon

      Irrespective of the argument that there is never an appropriate reason to damage someone else’s private property, my tires were slashed the very first night I lived here (in Columbia Heights). I had every intention of getting plates as soon as possible, but day of your move is ridiculous.

      • saf

        1986, the first day I lived in Mt Pleasant, my motorcycle’s front tire got slashed. Very frustrating.

        • saf

          Oh, and I already had DC plates.

    • Laura

      Along K Street NE (2nd–8th), it is not congested. There’s always a spot. So if this act was to rebel against out of states because they “congest” the city with their cars, this street was the wrong one to target. I’ve never had to look for a spot & i’ve been parking here for over two years now {with out-of-state tag}

      • anon

        I am always shocked by people’s ability to perceive a shortage of parking when there doesn’t appear to be one. Someone needs to get that included in the DSM-6.

      • Wendy Testaburger

        Although finding street parking has not been a problem lately in NE, it was especially bad last Friday and Saturday evening because everyone was out on H St. We had a ton of out-of-state plates in our neighborhood on Friday and parking enforcement was out in full force issuing tickets and towing cars. Can’t say the same about Saturday since the residential limitations don’t apply, which is why someone was probably frustrated and taking it out on the out-of-state cars.

  • KenyonDweller

    At least you can complain to you member of Congress. I kid, I kid!

  • anoNE

    1) they could have a ROSA exemption (Hill staff, students, etc.)
    2) the tensions around street parking are no joke. I really hope they find a way to close the loophole that the DMV has no way to weed out RPP applicants from big buildings that have agreed to prohibit tenants from applying in exchange for less than adequate on site parking.
    3) what part of K NE? Haven’t seen any around my area, so just wondering.

    • diffanon

      1) people who slash tires likely aren’t interested in the nuances of policy that exempt those people
      2) forcing all new residents to pay for parking costs baked into their housing costs, and therefore baiting them into owning cars they might otherwise forego, does not solve any problems.

      • Chris

        Regarding your second point, that approach may create more problems than it is solves, but it would solve the parking issue.

        • H St Resident

          Yeah….every time I hear a developer say that DMV can restrict this….I laugh. I’ve sat at more than enough ANC type meetings to know better than to believe that DMV can enforce this!

      • textdoc

        “forcing all new residents to pay for parking costs baked into their housing costs” — Ahh, but this isn’t generally happening. Developers build the required number of parking spaces in their buildings (or fewer spaces, if they get a variance) and rent them separately from the apartment units. Many of the spaces go unused, because an RPP is waaaay cheaper than garage parking. So we end up with the worst of both worlds: garage parking spaces going largely unused AND additional pressure on street-parking capacity.

        • anoNE

          Noted. Good perspective.

        • anon

          Well that’s certainly an argument for raising RPP costs significantly, but scarcity on the street was more than enough argument already. I still don’t think homebuilding should be burdened by the cost of parking when we have a housing crisis.

    • Chris

      DC could opt to deny parking permits to those who live in buildings with parking spaces. In Beverly Hills, if you apply for a residential parking permit you must produce a lease/title showing that you live in the city. If your lease shows that your rent includes a parking space you are not eligible for residential (on street) parking permits. It is that simple.

      • Arouet

        Uh, most peoples’ rents here don’t include parking spaces even if their building has them available. I live in a building with parking. I ain’t paying $250/mo when I can park for essentially free on the street, but I would definitely not be forced to under your proposed policy.

      • Elvis’s Mom

        This is probably not the only difference between DC and Beverly Hills…also, slashing someone’s tires is just crappy, regardless of whatever state they’re from.

      • SWChick

        This is already “a thing” in new developments. I live in a building with a parking garage at $250 a month. We are not allowed to apply for a RPP. We tried to petition with the signatures and all. No go.

  • Laura

    The car pictured above has a DC Reciprocity permit –Good for one year, I pay every year for it. I think that if you were able to receive a reciprocity permit and pay taxes in a state in which you receive actual representation, you would too. Now i’m out hundreds of dollars because someone received momentary satisfaction. Does that sound like a place one would *voluntarily* choose to establish residency in?

    • Anon Spock

      You’re paying more for your rpp than any dc residents. They should be happy to get the extra money in the coffers.

      • anon

        Obviously, that’s still not nearly as much money as this person presumably pays to her state (and would pay to the District) in income taxes.

    • Anonymous

      As is quite common, your post has been filtered through the lens of longstanding issues that regularly recur on this forum. In this case it’s the “street parking should be reserved for DC residents” argument.
      It’s certainly possible that this damage was done by an a$$hat with a grudge against your out of state plates being parked on the street. It’s also possible that this damage was done by an a$$hat for random reasons unrelated to your plates. The only person who knows why this was done is the a$$hat who did it. I think we can all agree that regardless of the reason for the actions, the person is an a$$hat.

    • So you live in DC but you pretend to have an established residence out of the district? First of all, although it’s a soft law, it’s probably technically illegal (check the list linked in my name, but basically unless you’re a student or military, you’re not supposed to be eligible). Second of all, if you want to pretend you don’t live in the city, then don’t, and let someone who wants to be here rent your residence instead. Third, it might actually be CHEAPER to switch your registration, because the RPP costs $35/year and reciprocity permits are hella expensive. Finally, if you care enough about the community to be posting complaints on PoPville, consider the difference you can make by voting in local elections. Yeah, we don’t get federal reps (which is lame) but my day-to-day life is drastically more affected by my local ANC rep, and City Councilmembers, and the mayor. They make the policy for the place where I live, and the margins of their elections are from the tens to the thousands.
      .
      In sum, I was really bothered by your last sentence, which in conjunction with your first make it sound like you have lived in the city for YEARS, plural, and yet you think the city is beneath you. Nobody is forcing you to be here. If you hate it, why stay?

      • Anon Spock

        Or congressional appointee, someone with a take home company car or a part time resident. 2 years (she mentioned that several comments up) easily fits into all those categories including military and student. I’m sure there are many reasons why ppl stay on a less than desirable city. Take this woman’s inflated parking fees and let her live.

      • anon

        Thanks for this. All true. Advocate for your city and its matters. If you’re concerned about representation, fight for it here, rather than harnessing the economic benefits of the city while inflating the coffers or whatever rusted out state you probably left behind.

      • Slashed Tires

        I’ve lived here for two years but yes, Anon Spock nailed it. I completely understand where you are coming from, however you’ve misjudged my situation. I am a congressional staffer who works for a member from my home state. I highly doubt the city would administer a program that was not in accordance with it’s own laws. or Federal.

        For right now, i enjoy living in DC [sans getting my car broken into, one year, and getting my tires slashed the next year]. I am willing to pay more for an RPP because as a young adult, who’s job stability is put in jeopardy every two years, the possibility of having to/choosing to move home is too likely for me to go through the process of establishing residency. If you have a problem with Congressmen/Senators hiring staffers from their states, you’ll have to take that up with someone else.

        In sum, I don’t hate DC, i love DC, despite the unwelcoming messages [car vandalism]; however, this flexibility exists for many reasons–legally, perhaps, financially–so DC can get it’s rightfully owed money for my usage of public facilities/utilities/roads and lastly because I imagine DC officials understand that Gov/Hill staff turnover is rampant and that this city draws in many temporary residents who don’t wish to establish residency just yet for many reasons. I won’t go into those.

        I think DC should be afforded federal representation, by the way*

  • textdoc

    Only 7 comments? I was expecting popcorn-worthy discussion on this thread about the logistics/ethics/etc. of D.C. residents maintaining out-of-state license plates.

    • Anon NS

      Yeah, this thread is way more reasonable than I was expecting. Guess my dog isn’t the only one lethargic in this heat.

  • navyard

    No video footage? Someone must have a camera!

  • Mark

    Saw a smashed window and slashed tire this morning at 1st and U NW – didn’t notice if they were out of district plates though.

  • Blake

    Happened to my GF who has zoned DC plates on the same block, seems like it was just block targeting and not an in-state out-of-state thing.

  • Anon

    Exact same circumstances in Tenleytown 2 weeks ago. Plenty of parking up here.

  • AH

    That’s a pretty busy block/street, I’m kinda surpised nobody saw anything, even at 3am. There’s usually a cop parked almost all night at 4th and Eye

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