• Petworther

    I hope they sprung for gap coverage.

  • Jeff

    Criminals do not follow DC’s gun laws. As long as concealed carry is not allowed in DC, we will see these events happening again and again.

    • And the guillotine we must have a guillotine.

      • NH Ave Hiker

        Draw and quartering?

        • Now you’re talking!! Also can we talk about “global warming” it’s freezing outside!!

      • Marty

        Can one use a guillotine for personal protection? I’m quite sure that having the means to protect oneself doesn’t equate to public execution.

        • Angry Parakeet

          Same as the problem with carrying a gun: The criminal has his/her approach strategized based on surprise and by the time you get your guillotine blade pulled up/gun out and unlocked the perp is gone.

        • deterrence my friend, deterrence – don’t underestimate the power of deterrence. And what’s up with “global warming” it’s freezing outside!

        • Anon Spock

          A tight enough garrote functions quite the same.

    • Pro2A


    • anonymous

      Yes, because a more heavily armed public is the key to public safety. As I’m sure you know, crime has been totally eliminated where concealed carry is permitted.

      • anon

        this sounds like sarcasm, but you never really know these days…

  • stacksp

    The other side of gentrification. After years and years, decades and decades of this, folks just get fed up and flee to the suburbs.

    • Anon

      What are you talking about? DC has experienced exactly the opposite of what you describe.

      • anon

        A year or two ago, I would have agreed. However, this last year, I feel like so many people are fed up with one thing or another and plan on moving (or moved) out of the city.

        • Anon

          You may feel that way, but the facts indicate that many more people continue to move into DC than out of DC.

          • stacksp

            That’s why I stated the OTHER side of gentrification. People like to say that everyone is being forced out but there are some that move by choice that helps to promote gentrification. I would not be surprised if more homes come on the market in and around the locations of these proposed shelters. For some, that might be the last straw.

        • say what

          yes. Been here 15 years and the last two have been the worst. The random violence on metro and all over the city is too much. I thought the schools we make us leave after preschool but I am ready now. And I know three all with the same game plan to get out while their house values are sky high in the next 12-24 months because of crime. Especially the crime in petworth where a lot of families with young kids live.

      • stacksp

        In order for people to buy these flips, some one has to sell there older home to rehabbers in order for them to become flips. Personally I know a lot of long term residents that have cashed out and fled to the suburbs. Not everyone is forced out. Many move away by choice. Thats what I am talking about.

        Thats the bassically the business model of the Menkiti Group in Brookland. The find folks that are ready to cash out and either rehab or sell at an upsale.

        • Anon

          Stacks, your anecdotal understanding seems to be at odds with reality. See ACS net migration figures for DC over the past 15 years. Sure, some folks are cashing out and moving to start a family in the suburbs, but many more folks are moving into the city proper.

          • stacksp

            I never denied that people are moving in. That was never my point. Not sure where people got that idea. Merely stating that the crime drives SOME people away in my experience. A lot of other factors drive people in. Never even thought this would solicit such a debate. That was not even my intent.

  • Several police cars and an ambulance flew up Warder past my house around this time – but they stopped around Lamont St – more the 3200 – 3300 block. Hope nobody was hurt.

    So many potential heroes out there just waiting for their concealed carry permit.

    • Anony

      Heroes or wannabe heroes with limited experience that would fire a gun and potentially end up hurting more people who are bystanders. Just remember reading about female “hero” in Michigan who fired her gun in a parking lot at a shoplifter running out of Home Depot hitting cars and grazing a toddler.

      • Kingman Park

        At a shoplifter? That lady belongs in jail. I understand using a weapon for personal safety but who would go out of their way to protect Home Depot merchandise?

      • anon

        what about the customer at the family dollar who stopped a criminal before he executed a fellow patron at a family dollar?


        • Kingman Park

          Completely different situation but it makes sense that someone who would rob a Family Dollar at gunpoint would have relatives just as awful.

        • anon

          there are a select few instances where concealed carry helps. there are many instances where concealed carry (and the proliferation of guns more generally) harms. you’re not gonna convince me that a heavily armed populace is making anyone safer on the streets. i don’t want some armchair sheriff shooting at me because he, e.g., mistakes the umbrella in my hand for a gun, or he misunderstands who the victim and who the aggressor is in an attack. leave the policing to police and let’s not regress into the wild west.

  • eva

    That intersection of Warder and Irving gets pretty quiet after about 7 pm. I was biking through there probably around 7:25 last night and there weren’t many people around or on the road. It doesn’t help that Irving is pretty much an expressway coming into the neighborhood there so cars are flying and foot traffic is seriously discouraged by traffic speed and the intersection design. You couldn’t pay me to live on Warder Street. Not 15 years ago, and not today.


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