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  • dat

    Wowzers! Is that a steel frame?

  • welcome to my hell! I live in the green house.

    • It’s going to be a condo building. if you buy, make sure you get a good warranty and thorough inspection!

      • Howdy neighbor! I’m around the corner.

        I’ve been watching this thing go up over the last month on my walk to the metro station.

        Gonzodc, how are you not going crazy? You’re squeezed between massive condo building going up on V and 11th and this, you’re living in the middle of a construction site.

        PS – are you going to have an inspector check out your property for any damage that might be done to your house?

        • There are some significant issues that I can’t really go in to in a public forum. But, yes, all those things have happened.

          • and, yes. construction starts promptly at 7am. Even on Thanksgiving.

          • Wow, rough. I can’t imagine your headaches.
            I guess the bright side is that at least all the construction is being done at once? :-/

        • Anon

          Re: the inspection, can neighboring construction be help liable for damage to your property? They are digging out a basement next door and this seems to have shifted the foundation of the garage. I am a renter, but just wondering if things like that ever work out.

          • yes, i believe so. but that’s for the lawyers and home insurance companies to figure out. I’m a renter too. And I’m outta there in a couple of weeks.

          • monkeyrotica

            If this guy is digging out a basement, guaranteed the foundation will shift on the adjacent properties.

  • vstreet

    whoa. cool. how the heck do you successfully permit something like that? and the roof deck?

  • Anonymous

    that is ugly

  • Terrible. Just terrible.

  • What not to do. Three doors down – one of the nicer appearing ones I’ve seen.

  • Jason

    “Everyone thinks they have good taste and a sense of humor, but they can’t all possibly have good taste” – Keri Fischer in When Harry Met Sally. Clearly, these people have no taste. Now the roof deck on the other hand is tasteful. I’d get rid of the form stone and tin door overhang though.

  • Wow. This is the kind of thing that prompts people to get historic-district designations.

    Hoping the finished product at least has a brick facade, rather than vinyl siding.

    • CoHi


  • What you can’t see from this angle is that the steel frame extends way beyond the building structure. They are, essentially, covering the entire backyard with the footprint of the new building.

    Honestly, I’m surprised they kept the original structure.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t know about the DC permitting process, but where i used to live it was sooooooo much easier (and cheaper?) to get a permit to do an addition than new construction that people would leave one wall up, build a house around it, then a couple of years later do some more “updating” that would get rid of that remaining wall.

  • ET

    That so doesn’t look promising. I suspect it is going to end up as badly as I think….

    zero_sum – do you think that are maxing out the allowable space to build?

    • If you check out their permitting process, the city had significant issues for months that didnt allow them to get a permit. but, something changed. not sure what.

      • Someone greased the right wheels.

        Also, as I mentioned in a thread earlier this week, it seems that the marching orders from DCRA are increasing density whenever and wherever possible. Converting a single family house into a multiple unit dwelling will easily double or triple the tax proceeds for the city. The message is coming through loud and clear. Look at the ugly monstrosity that PoP profiled on Meridian Place a few days ago – it totally detracts from the character of the block, just like this pop up.

        • DCRA did hold out for 7 months (if i read it correctly). http://cpms.dcra.dc.gov/OBPAT/PermitStatus.aspx?ID=B1200015

        • AP

          But if it’s legal under the current zoning then what’s the problem? That area is probably zoned R-4, which means you can build 40 feet high. The existing rowhomes look to be 20 feet high. Just because the adjacent owners didn’t build to the maximum allowable height (which may have been different 50 years ago), doesn’t mean the owner of the red house can’t.

          • As long as it is structurally sound and doesnt damage adjacent properties, I don’t think there is a big problem personally.

          • Anonymous

            No one said that they can’t build it. Only that it is a disgusting thing to do.

          • Anonther

            Being legal doesn’t mean it isn’t hideous and out of scale.

          • AP

            Well if you can follow a comment thread, I was replying to zero_sum’s comment who suggests that DCRA must be bending the rules or taking kickbacks. DCRA doesn’t create the zoning ordinance, they simply enforce it.

          • Anonymous

            Why “disgusting?” This addition is not blocking any other house from sunlight or view – except perhaps in the back alley. This is not a block of architectural genius.

          • T

            I agree with anonymous 7:52. I don’t like seeing cruddy pop-ups on beautiful original Wardman’s and such, but if it’s a block of ho-hum house boxes like this, just let everybody pop-up and you might actually end up with something more interesting, fun, and even distinctive, than you started with.

          • ET

            The height isn’t the issue I was questioning. Buildings can take up only so much of a lot and if this one has been expanded horizontally then that is an issue for DCRA inspectors.

          • “Ho-hum box houses”? Granted, this block suffers from Formstone having been added to the facades of at least three houses… but the Federal-style architecture is nice (and to my eye, more aesthetically pleasing than that of Wardman-style houses).

            Check out the elaborate brickwork at the top of the non-Formstoned houses (I think maybe it’s called the cornice?) — very nice detail in there.

          • Anonymous

            If you view from the back side, you can see that this will block sunlight and views from behind.

  • Anonymous

    what is wrong with a roof deck?

  • aaa

    Looks like they are building another house on top of that house…

    • Anonymous

      So how about every house on that block also builds up to the legal limit? Would that also offend everybody? Increased density with infill construction is economically sound and environmentally green. More people in the same footprint. I don’t see the problem here – especially since no one knows what this will actually look like – since it is currently only a frame.

      • AP


      • I actually agree with you. The city needs more housing and density, and yes, this is much greener than creating more urban sprawl.

        However, I seriously question DCRA’s ability to monitor all these projects that seemingly pop up overnight. I don’t think they have the regulatory capabilities to handle the workload. I also wish they would do more to ensure that plans architecturally conform to their surroundings and don’t detract from a block’s esthetics. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.

        That said, it is still premature to judge this place. It might end up great. However, that frame has been up for at least month and it’s certainly an eyesore. And there has been little discernible visual progress since the frame popped up.

      • Infill construction doesn’t have to mean adding a pop-up to every house not in a historic district.

        Infill construction can mean taking vacant lots and building mid-rise apartment buildings, as is being done in two locations on Georgia Avenue in the Park View area.

  • formerneighbor

    I used to own next door on the right; it’s zoned C-2-B so they can build to 80% lot occupancy as a matter of right. Definitely out of character with this row of houses!

  • Anonymous

    I passed by this last week. It looks terrible. I really feel sorry for the neighbors.

  • Annoyed Home Owner

    My street recently lost a battle with a shady developer that did almost the exact thing. He was rude to the neighbors and did all of his raze without permits. DCRA has no power and the Mayor’s office is completely non-responsive.
    Good luck if this is the same developer.

  • Epiphanic

    Why do people feel the need to comment on the aesthetics of a construction project before it’s even remotely finished?

    Haters gonna hate, I guess.

    • We’re all entitled to our opinions, and we’re entitled to speculate on the basis of what’s there so far as to what the finished product might look like.

      • Epiphanic

        Of course you’re entitled to your opinions, but it’s amazing to me that many people (at least the ones that comment) seem to default to “this is ugly” as soon as construction starts. Is it beautiful now? Of course not, but it’s a shell of a house. Will it be beautiful in the when it’s finished? I don’t know, but I’d prefer to pass judgement after completion.

        • By the time it’s built, it is too late for the community to do anything about the development if it’s grotesquely out of character with the surroundings. Those who live in the area should be able to voice their concerns and give feedback to regulators, within the confines of what is allowable by law.

          If I owned either building next to it, I would definitely have an inspector and my lawyer on speed dial to ensure no structural or cosmetic damage to my property.

        • Reality Check

          Looks awful because it ruins the historic look of the house and ruins the entire row of houses. No matter what they put up there, it’s going to be bad.

  • bruno

    Sort of phallic. Like the competing towers in central Bologna.

  • Rebecca

    This is a great reason to down zone your neighborhoods like they have done in areas of Columbia Heights. Being in a Historic District is not the only way to protect your neighborhoods from these kinds of pop-ups.

  • Reality Check

    The city is allowing this? Looks AWFUL!

  • Anonymous

    Are you the most recent previous owner?


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