Ward 1 Council Member Responds to Recent Violence in Columbia Heights

Photo of Ward 1 Council Member Brianne Nadeau by PoPville flickr user Adam Fagen

From the MPD and Columbia Heights listservs:

“Public Safety in Columbia Heights

Many of you are aware there was a shooting yesterday in the Columbia Heights area as well as additional gun fire. I’m working closely with MPD to address these incidents. You’ve probably already noticed an additional MPD presence in the area as a part of the response.

I want to thank everyone who has come forward and assisted the police in their investigation. Anyone with additional information should please call the Metropolitan Police Department on 202-727-9099.

I also want to make sure people have received the information about the public safety meeting hosted by my office and ANCs 1B, 1A and 2B happening this Saturday, June 6 from 11:30am-2:30pm at Cardozo Education Campus. The topic will be crime prevention and how to protect yourself and help reduce crime in the community and it will have representatives from MPD, Emergency Services, Neighborhood Watch and other safety agencies.

I know there are many who feel frightened by the shootings, and I want to assure you that MPD is working diligently to address this issue, and appreciates your partnership in helping to solve the crime. The community working together is the best way to prevent future incidents. MPD is on the street, but also depends on community engagement and each resident sharing the information they observe.

Thank you for your engagement on this issue as we work to solve and prevent these kinds of incidents in the future. Please don’t hesitate to contact me directly if you have any additional concerns: [email protected]



Brianne K. Nadeau, Ward One Councilmember”

119 Comment

  • Bullets are flying so let’s have a community meeting! That’s some decisive leadership that should make us all feel better.

    • Ok, what else can she actually do?

      • Wash the streets clean in an orgy of vigilante bloodletting, presumably.

        I mean, I’m assuming that’s what the commenter is suggesting.

      • Agreed. People are always on here bitching about how “Brianne Nadeau needs to address this out-of-control violence!” And then when she does that, they’ll howl for her head. A city council member alone can’t solve this issue. It’s going to take a whole lot of actors – including local residents – to pitch in and fix the situation. I’d like to see some more proactive work by MPD, including foot patrols. It sounds like morale is in the gutter, so we should probably think about getting rid of Lanier (even in spite ever declining crime under her watch…)

        • brookland_rez

          How much of it is policing and how much of it is gentrification? Having been here 11 years and seen the drop in crime, personally I think it’s due to more and more of the criminal element being displaced more than anything.

      • Well, for one, she could ride MPD until they increase foot patrols in the area. Her statement that police presence has increased is just false. And, no, I don’t think that adding more cops will prevent all crime, but it’s a step in the right direction.
        I find it amusing that people on the this blog blamed Jim Graham for everything from crime to litter to the sad state of retail, but his successor, who is 1/100th as effective, gets a pass with “what can a counsel member do?”

        • can you back up that statement with more evidence? not. saying you’re wrong, justdont know about the accomplishments of each cm or the lack thereof

        • justinbc

          “Her statement that police presence has increased is just false.”
          Are you basing this on actual routes of MPD police cars, some other statistic, or just anecdotal observation? To claim something is “just false” you surely have contradictory evidence, yes?

        • She’s been in office for, what, a few months? Nothing against Jim Graham (aside from the shady corruption allegations that dogged him) but the criticism of Nadeau seems over-the-top and frequently comes back to her support for affordable housing (something I strongly support)

          • Yup, lots of people who want CoHi to be Logan. It’s not, and it never will be, thank goodness. We need to keep at least one neighborhood in this city genuinely diverse.

          • west_egg

            To be fair, a lot of the criticism here on PoPville is coming from a single member of the commentariat and her support of affordable housing seems to be his go-to gripe.

      • *sigh* Not this again. We don’t know what to do about it. That’s why we’re not on city council (or mayor, or police chief.) We reply on the people whose JOB IT IS to know what to do about it. And they are FAILING.
        Why does someone always ask the people not in charge what THEY would do about these problems?? It’s like you’ve got a surgeon and a patient, and the family member is asking the patient “what do you think the doctor should do?” while the doctor plays candy crush on her phone. You think the doctor should wait around for the patient to come up with a treatment plan?

        • Oh come on, certainly you understand there’s a difference between the specialized skills needed to be a doctor and the general skills needed to be a politician.

        • Sorry buddy, but buying a house in the neighborhood doesn’t mean you just get to sit back and order people around, including your council member and cops. Are you volunteering with local kids? Acting as a mentor? Organizing help for the local homeless? Volunteering as a neighborhood block captain? Have you met all your neighbors and made efforts to beautify the neighborhood together? Perhaps you’ve invested some money in a local business? Or donated your time and money to an after school program in CoHi? That’s actually how you help stem violence in the area.
          Unfortunately, living in the city is harder than the suburbs. You’re required to put in A LOT more effort to get the neighborhood you want. There’s a lot more organization and work that needs to be done when you have a diverse set of people from all income and social backgrounds living on top of one another. If you can’t handle that sacrifice, then city living is not for you.

          • jim_ed

            So if you don’t mentor neighborhood kids you’re not allowed to have an opinion on crime issues in your neighborhood? Yeah, that seems totally reasonable.

          • That’s someone else’s “problem,” right Jim?
            You can have an opinion, but what are you doing to change the neighborhood and pitch in? Hysteric complaining on PoP’ville is for naught.

          • jim_ed

            Yes, it’s absolutely the problem of the government whom we pay taxes to specifically for the purpose of addressing gun violence in our city through the police, the schools, and social services. If I get on an airplane that has an engine malfunction, I also expect them to get a new plane in place to take me to my destination, not to browbeat me about whether I’ve watched youtube videos on how to replace a turbofan or have the ratchet set to remove a hydraulic system.
            And FWIW, I am highly involved in my neighborhood,both through the ANC and a local community non-profit, but to claim that only people who volunteer locally deserve to criticize the government’s response to crime is completely asinine.

          • Accountering

            I am not involved in my neighborhood at all, but I do pay a lot in taxes, and as such, I expect the government to be somewhat responsive to my needs, especially when my needs coincide with EVERYONE elses needs (IE public safety)

          • Even if there were some selfish recluse who did nothing but bitch on the internet (this person might exist somewhere, but is very unlikely to be on this site) he wouldn’t need to itemize for your benefit what he’s done to deserve the protection of our elected officials and their police. That’s not how societies work.
            But thanks for chiming in, “buddy”.

          • Volunteered? Mentored? Helped the homeless? Gee, I’m just a law abiding, tax-paying, polite person so I guess I’m just a worthless dead beat. Have we seriously come to the point where law abiding citizens (who don’t volunter, mentor, etc.) are to be blamed for violent crime rather than those who commit such crimes? WOW!

        • So even if you don’t know exactly what you want done, can you at least give some examples of council members you feel have been effective in fighting crime?

      • bunny colvin tried something interesting in baltimore, and look where that got him.

      • People want a magic wand. It doesn’t exist.

    • We need Marion Cobretti on the case!

    • I encourage you to come to the meeting and share your ideas. I saw more cops walking around last night in our section of Columbia Heights, but agree that needs to continue even on days when there aren’t multiple shootings within a two-block radius.

      • KenyonDweller, didn’t you JUST post on another thread that you moved out of the neighborhood? So can you REALLY say police presence has not increased? I do live in the area and frequent Columbia Heights almost daily. I notice police almost every time I’m out. In fact, on Saturday we were walking home and saw a police officer standing no the sidewalk on his phone. He looked up from his phone and said hi and then asked us if everything was okay? Of course it was, but I thought that was a nice gesture.

        • I think this illustrates the problem. Police standing around or in their cars on their phones are not actively policing. They’re not engaging with the community. How nice that he spontaneously asked if you were ok. I assume you’re of a certain class whose well-being he care about?

          • Yes, I am a white woman. However my partner is not white if that somehow makes it better in your eyes! And yes, police shouldn’t be on their phones all the time, but I saw him for maybe a total of 60 seconds so who knows how long he was on his phone.

          • I’ve never had a cop look at me, much less speak. Must be nice.

          • I’m a white woman too; I wasn’t being critical of you or your status, only pointing out that being concerned with how X class of people are doing is not the same as proactively creating relationships with the entire community, including those who may not be

  • As usual, MPD is reactive and not proactive. They will have a few extra patrol cars around for a week or two and then they will be gone. Same old ways.

  • Any idea what was going on on 13th this morning around 845? There were like 6 federal agents blocking traffic and had weapons out, looked like they were ready to bring the pain. Pretty intense actually.

  • “You’ve probably already noticed an additional MPD presence in the area as a part of the response.” <-Actually, I haven't noticed an increase of MPD at all!

    • From 9pm – 10pm last night in the 1400 block of Columbia and surrounding streets (Harvard, 15th, 14th) there were at least 8-10 different MPD cars patrolling. that is most definitely an increase.

      • Well of course there was then-wasn’t that went the second shooting of the day happened? I was meaning more in general, not in response to a specific incident.

    • N=1. Sounds like you got some statistically significant data right there.

  • All too apt to have Mendo’s smirk in the photo.

  • Brianne needs to not read her cell phone when she is driving! Witnessed her texting and driving on 13th St recently. Perhaps communicating with MPD about the crime wave in her district??

    One thing the Council could do is pass emergency legislation that mandates very strict and long sentences for gun crimes in DC. The soft on thugs policy in this city is just nuts in the face of the on-going gunplay!

    • justinbc

      You’re not allowed to call people thugs anymore per the Social Media Outrage Act of 2015

      • As long as you use it to describe all people of ill repute and not just black people, I don’t think anyone would take issue.

    • In 2008, Graham almost ran me over at the corner of Harvard and Argonne, she’s settling into the job nicely.

  • SusanRH

    I feel like the rise in violent crime is happening in most neighbourhoods in the city. Time for Mayor and Police Chief to start talking about it more and take it a seriously.

  • Vigilantism actually is a bona fide phenomenon in some places, complete with costumes and gadgets and such. It would be awesome for a group of masked heroes to clean the thugs out of this area, and anywhere else it’s needed.

  • As a Ward 4 resident I am jealous you have a Council member who at least is showing up to a public meeting to discuss gun violence. Is a meeting going to fix everything? No, we can all agree to that. But those of you in Ward 1 at least have your CM showing up and facing criticism and taking questions about the current plans. Even if you think she isn’t doing enough, please show up and make your voice heard. Your neighbors to the north haven’t had that opportunity with the past or current CM.

    • I might show up just because I’m interested to know what they suggest to protect myself from gunfire near my apartment at 1pm on a Tuesday. Move?

    • west_egg

      As a fellow Ward 4 resident I think your jealousy is misplaced. After the rash of violence in December it only took a couple weeks of harassing Muriel Bowser to get her to walk, like, two entire blocks of Georgia Avenue! I don’t recall specifically but she also probably had her staff do a Top To Bottom Review™, likely preceded and/or followed by bringing everyone to The Table. I’m sure the residents of Columbia Heights just need to wait for a half a dozen-ish more murders for her to take similarly swift action in their community.

      • May 1: The 4th District Citizen’s Advisory Council met last night at 4D MPD headquarters at 6001 Georgia Avenue NW. Police Chief Cathy Lanier came by to discuss recent issues in the area, as well as current MPD resources, status, etc.
        There were around 60 or so residents in attendance, along with Councilmember-Elect Brandon Todd, At-Large Councilmember Elissa Silverman, Ward 4 liaison Khalil Thompson, ANC 4A05 Commissioner Patience Singleton, ANC 4C Commissioner Timothy Jones and ANC 4D05 Commissioner Krystal Braxton. 4D Commander Wilfredo Manlapaz was there, as was Inspector Vendette Parker and another Commander that I didn’t get a chance to meet.

    • Do you all even have a CM?

  • The MPD is capable of being proactive, they recently established booths at the Woodley Park Metro to get a handle on the gang fights that were happening there.

    • That sounds like they are being reactive to the gang fights. In response to the gang fights, they established booths at the Woodley Park Metro.

      • I view it as a change of strategy, not being reactive. Reactive actions aren’t long term.

  • ANOTHER public safety meeting? Do people not understand that we are tired of public safety meetings? The meetings happen, MPD can provide no info, they cannot tell us what (if anything) is being done… meanwhile, the shootings and assaults keep happening. Community engagement is great, but it’s only part of the problem. We want results. Let’s see some arrests. Or perhaps a special task force to handle these trouble spots. Enoug is enough.
    Naduea has been severely disappointing to me. She seems nice enough, but we needed to hear from her months ago on the violent crime problems in CoHi. Anymore, it makes me cringe every time I hear an elected official say, “I’m working closely with MPD to address these incidents. You’ve probably already noticed an additional MPD presence in the area as a part of the response”. All councilmember sare just as guilting about saying this. Those of us on the ground don’t need you “working more closely with MPD”. We need a public short and long term strategy to get a handle on crime in awards 1 and 4.

    • Actually, I have noticed foot patrols in my part of Ward 1 (16th & U) during the past several months. They started last summer after a string of car thefts on my block. I thought it was a training exercise at first since the officers appear to be young. They always seem to be going north in the direction of 14th Street/W Street. If you think the MPD needs to be redeployed elsewhere, the meeting would be the place to start.

  • Solution #1: Open the fighting pits.

    (GoT reference)

  • I didn’t realize Columbia Heights was a hotbed of danger. I think people may be exaggerating about how dangerous the area really is. I’m guessing most of the shootings are targeted shootings, not random murders like the reporter in DC who took a stray bullet meant for someone else. Generally, I feel Columbia Heights is one of the safer neighborhoods in DC

    • As a CoHi resident, I can say you’re right on pretty much everything you’ve said. There’s A LOT of hysterics on PoP’ville about violence. It’s a real phenomenon in EVERY major American city and it’s been steadily decreasing everywhere. Those are the truths.

      • It brings the clicks. People are always curious to find out about crime that happens around them, eve if they never see it.

      • Thank you. A voice of reason. As you stated, every city has crime that will never be fully eradicated. The idea is to just be cognizant of your surroundings and try to be safe wherever you are. Get an alarm system, and arm it while you’re away or at home for the night. Lock your doors. Lock your car, and don’t leave valuables in plain view. That doesn’t guarantee you won’t be a victim, but everyone has to take the necessary steps to minimize being a target for crime. Those complaining about Columbia Heights should try living in communities that actually have real social ills and crime problems. Generally, DC is one of the safer major cities in America. That’s a fact. Even the worst areas of DC wouldn’t compare to the worst areas of Detroit/Chicago/Philadelphia, Baltimore/etc.

        • just because it is worse elsewhere does not mean Col Heights residents are unreasonable for wanting it to be better than it is. I’m guessing you tell folks in Chicago “at least it’s not Afghanistan”

          • Everyone has the responsibility to make sure their community is safer. No denying or fighting that. The hyperbolic statements about how the level of danger in the area is what’s odd to me.

      • yes, all of that is true but the violent crime Col Heights, while mostly limited to a small area (around where this shooting occurred) is pretty frequent. And just because violent crime may be worse in other places or is common everywhere doesn’t mean the city can’t do more to prevent it. I think everyone can agree that violent crime is bad. Why not try to hold the city accountable (we do pay their salaries) and ask them to do more to prevent it? Seems like a very reasonable ask.

        Why should anyone accept targeted killing as a fact of city life? The city can’t stop all of it, but it can try and try harder than it is trying now.

        • What can the police do to prevent a targeted murder that they had no idea was going to take place? What can the police do to prevent a stray bullet from killing someone? What can the police do to prevent a taxi cab driver from attempting to rape a woman in the cab? The police are reactive to crime, and it’s near impossible to predict exactly when a crime will happen. That’s just the nature of policing. Maybe you’re asking for a policeman on every corner? Do you want to live in a police state? Do you want DC to be like NYC and allow stop and frisk on anyone they see? Police are already hyper sensitive to engaging in what might be perceived as police brutality.

          I agree, we have to hold the police accountable in every way. That means if you have credible information about criminal activity then tell the police. If you know the guy down the street is dealing drugs then notify the police so they can do something about it. Don’t walk with your headphones in your ears at 3am and be alert so you won’t be a target for a mugging. Lock your doors and close your windows so a would-be thief doesn’t target your home for a burglary when you leave home. Everyone, all of us, including the police need to be accountable and neighborhoods become better because of that.

          • MPD could definitely find a way to not tolerate roving gangs of teens on motorbikes? Left unabated now they are now shooting from their rides and killing bystanders. MPD could find a way to not tolerate known open air drug markets and problem houses that the community knows are of ill-repute and often associated with guns and violence. But they don’t in either case, and we all have to live with the sometimes horrific consequences. Tolerate and incubate, right?

          • DC Rez,

            MPD could always do more, but those are not proactive measures. The police have to react to roving gangs, teens on motorbikes, shutting down open air drug markets, etc. Policing strategies are reactive. How do you proactively shut down an open air drug market? A buy bust operation is a reactive measure to arrest the drug dealers. If you know of a way to proactively identify and stomp out crime, while simultaneously preserving the civil/human rights of all criminals, then you would never have to work another day in your life again.

    • I wouldn’t call it a hotbed of danger, especially considering how it was less than 10 years ago. But it is crowded with people most of the time, and innocent people can get caught up in targeted violence – the way the reporter in SE did.

  • That could happen anywhere, but it definitely happens more in SE DC than Columbia Heights. When is the last time someone in Columbia Heights was killed with a stray bullet? Like I said, it’s possible anywhere but I don’t recall anything like this happening in recent memory. You generally hear of target murders in Columbia Heights, not stories of a citizen sitting on their porch and getting caught up in rival gang gunfire.

    • HaileUnlikely

      A young girl (less than 10 years old) was killed by a stray bullet in front of an apartment on 13th Street in April a few years ago. I remember it well. I was 5 blocks away and I heard the shots and sirens.

      • From 2009? Not to make light of the tragedy, but Columbia Heights was an entirely different neighborhood back then. The people are complaining about what’s going on in 2015. The reporter in SE was killed last week by a stray bullet. Even though SE is getting better, there is still some violence the citizens of that community have to be concerned about that residents of Columbia Heights generally don’t have to be concerned about. Some SE concerns = stray bullet, nearby drug house. Columbia Heights concerns = muggings, hearing about targeted murders in their neighborhood, property theft. People just need to realize as long as there is oxygen to breathe there will be crime.


        • HaileUnlikely

          No. Not that one. I am certain that the victim was a girl in the shooting that I am thinking of. I don’t recall the year, but it was the Thursday before Easter – I was at my church when it happened. Anyway, back to your point, different neighborhood or no, there were a total of 12-15 shots fired in Columbia Heights in a span of about 8 hours YESTERDAY. Luck has it that nobody was killed by a stray bullet, but when you have that many shots fired in a crowded area, it’s just luck that nobody was hit.

        • HaileUnlikely

          p.s. Citizens killed by stray bullets are usually targeted murders where the target was missed and somebody else was hit instead, not just crazy people firing randomly into crowds. Recall that the reporter killed in SE was killed this way – a targeted murder in which somebody other than the target got hit. I’m not sure how your assertion that most of the murders in the neighborhood are targeted is supposed to be comforting.

          • It’s not supposed to comforting. That’s just the reality. I would guess you have fewer accidental murders than targeted murders. That is why the story of the reporter made the news. That is aberrant here in DC. Same with the woman in Shaw. 50 people have been murdered so far in DC, and I gather most people couldn’t tell me anything about most of those people. If the majority of those 50 people were targeted killings gone wrong (i.e. Shaw, reporter in SE), then people would have Cathy Lanier’s head on a platter. Truth is, we don’t have the magnitude of crime issues in DC that most large urban cities have.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I would sure as bloody hell hope that citizens killed by stray bullets do not constitute a majority of homicide victims.

    • A worker at the 14th & Girard Dunkin Donuts was hit and killed by a stray bullet not five years ago.

    • west_egg

      A woman down the street in Shaw was in the middle of her Memorial Day BBQ last week when she was shot and killed by stray gunfire.

      • And a couple was killed in Rockville by their neighbor a week or two ago. We all heard about the family in upper NW that was murdered. Crime happens everywhere. If you looked at the crime stats of Shaw, Columbia Heights, and upper NW, I’m sure overall those are some of the safer areas of the city. I won’t even bring Rockville into the comparison. Murders even happen in quaint suburbs all around the DMV area. My point is, are these crimes aberrant or are these neighborhoods with rampant crime problems?

        • HaileUnlikely

          Not that “some of” and “rampant” are quantifiable, but it takes a very bizarre notion of what those words mean to arrive at the conclusion that Columbia Heights and Shaw are among the safer areas in the city.

          • You think Shaw and Columbia Heights are unsafe? You have a right to your opinion. Crime stats and my eyes make me feel that Shaw and Columbia Heights are safe neighborhoods. It’s hard to cry about your neighborhood being so unsafe when million dollar condos and homes are being sold there. That to me signals that you probably don’t have too many criminals living and operating their criminal mission out of million dollar homes. Anything is possible though.

          • HaileUnlikely

            You are quantifying crime by looking at property values? That’s an interesting approach. I do it by looking at crime stats.
            I do not know what proportion of houses in Columbia Heights are owned by people who bought in the past 5-10 years, but I’d estimate that it is well under half. Lots of homes now valued at $1M+ are owned by people who bought them a very long time ago for much much less.

          • Unrenovated homes in Columbia Heights are regularly going for 1 million plus? That is news to me.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I am trying to have a serious conversation about neighborhood safety and you are playing word games. I’m moving on.

        • HaileUnlikely

          Focus. You asked, “When is the last time someone in Columbia Heights was killed with a stray bullet?” People are answering. Why are you arguing with us when we answer.

          • Someone being killed by a stray bullet 5 years ago in Columbia Heights doesn’t exactly make me feel scared. You can’t even compare Columbia Heights 5 years ago and Columbia Heights now. That is not quantifiable.

          • HaileUnlikely

            Perhaps “recent memory” means something different to me than it does to you. Perhaps that is reasonable, since I am extremely old. Of course “Columbia Heights” isn’t quantifiable, thus cannot be compared 5 years ago versus today. However, you can easily quantify things like “crime in Columbia Heights” or “violent crime in Columbia Heights” or “homicides in Columbia Heights” 5 years ago versus today, and if you actually do that, I’m not sure you’ll find what you seem to think you’ll find.

          • Did you even live in Columbia heights 5 years ago?? I did (and still do). Not much different from now, except some more pedestrians maybe. Wasn’t any more dangerous then as it is now (and I don’t think it is particularly unsafe).

          • “You can’t even compare Columbia Heights 5 years ago and Columbia Heights now. That is not quantifiable.” Hahahahaha, how so? I lived in Columbia Heights five years ago and my view is that it was less violent then. There was a bit more optimism about the businesses that had recently opened (some of which have since closed) and 5 years ago is right about the start of a long lull in murders adjacent to where I lived. It seemed things were trending quick in the right direction. They may still be, but it remains to be seen if this is just a brief uptick or a more serious trend reversal. That said, Columbia Heights is not as violent as many make it out to be – even compared to nearby neighborhoods like Petworth , it is relatively calm and safe.

    • Why is getting killed by a stray bullet the sole indication if a neighborhood is safe or not? There’s plenty of crime in CH beyond shots being fired that lends itself to not being ‘safe’. I”m by no means saying CH is the MOST unsafe neighborhood in DC, but just last week a neighbor’s car window was smashed on Lamont in the middle of the day. That’s no gunshot, but a pretty common occurrence in CH.

      • I never said it was. Georgetown has a good amount of nuisance crimes and break-ins. I think pretty much everyone would say that they feel like they are safe in Georgetown. I don’t think anyone worries about getting hit with a stray bullet in Georgetown even though that area has it’s share of crime. I gather you don’t walk out of your home thinking that the area is so dangerous in CH that you think getting hit with a stray bullet is a real possibility. I already know a lot of people that live in the area don’t even lock their homes. That is the mark of a safe neighborhood. You think people in bad neighborhoods regularly leave their homes and vehicles unlocked? If your biggest problem is hearing about some targeted murder in a small pocket you never go near, or dealing with vandalism like a broken car window then that’s like most good neighborhoods in America. It’s just a matter of opinion or experience possibly. Maybe most of you here have never been fully exposed to crime, and have lived in areas where these things didn’t happen. If you live in the city, then you start to gauge neighborhood safety by the level/types of crime than when actual crime occurs.

        • You know numerous people who leave their homes unlocked in CH? I know numerous people (myself included) living in CH and while not a stray bullet war zone, would never leave their car or home unlocked. I find that hard super hard to believe, tbh.

          • And I find it hard to believe that people think Columbia Heights is an unsafe area.

          • HaileUnlikely

            “Safe” and “unsafe” are relative just as “short” and “tall” are relative and thus have no absolute meaning, however, claiming that Columbia Heights and Shaw are among the safer areas in DC is about as sensible as claiming that my 5’2″ neighbor is among the taller people in DC.

          • You’re right, Halie. I’ve said all along that it is all relative. A man that is 5’2″ could be tall for a woman that’s 5’0″.

        • HaileUnlikely

          I have been robbed at gunpoint twice (including once a little after 6 PM and no I was not wearing headphones) and a man was killed in a robbery-gone-awry (gunman got scared, fired by accident) right down the street from my house a few months ago. So yeah, experiences like that influence how I view crime in my neighborhood. Don’t give me that baloney about “if you live in a city,” and I don’t have any idea what the f*cking hell “auge neighborhood safety by the level/types of crime than when actual crime occurs” even means.

          • You seem agitated. Your life experience is your life experience. My life experience is my life experience. I thought that was the point of the discussion. I’ve lived in some of the worst neighborhoods and some of the best neighborhoods. For myself, I know what a good neighborhood looks like. Columbia Heights is a good neighborhood with some criminal elements. Columbia Heights is one of the more popular neighborhoods in DC. If it were unsafe I can guarantee it would not be a neighborhood you would want to hang out and live in. From reading PoP over time, I’ve noticed that a lot of people that read this blog haven’t even been east of the river. Probably because they perceive the area to be bad based on what people have told them. Property values aren’t indicative of safe neighborhoods, but they are indicative of council/police response to citizen issues. Property values are indicative of people that have stable jobs and families. Property values indicate how invested the people and the government are in the success of the neighborhood. Property values say a lot about the neighborhood whether you want to admit it or not. Does Columbia Heights have crime? Yes. Do you feel unsafe? That’s relative to the person. Even chick-fil-A is coming to CH! People/businesses/entities are coming to CH because it’s safe. Those things don’t happen in areas that are unsafe.

        • Halie,

          If you have data to discount my opinion please share it. The numbers don’t lie. I’ll eat crow right now if crime stats don’t show CH is a “safe” neighborhood. But, what now qualifies as safe? Top 3 on that list? I’m sure I feel safe in many more neighborhoods you feel unsafe. I’m sure CH is not the only one. It’s all relative, but let the numbers speak for themselves.

          • HaileUnlikely

            crimemap.dc.gov. Pick any measure that isn’t patently nonsensical. Knock yourself out.

          • I see a decrease in major crimes and an increase in property crimes/thefts, etc. I even said earlier that even Georgetown has their share of property crimes. Very few major crimes in Georgetown though. Property crimes are almost guaranteed to spike in areas that are considered “wealthy.” I think most citizens would rather deal with the package thief that comes into the neighborhood rather than the murderer/drug dealer directly next door. That is my personal feeling. That doesn’t discount your experience. If you want to live in an area with 0 crime then you should fly to the moon or live out in the sticks somewhere. Rockville is super safe, but obviously crime occurs there as I mentioned. I’m sure there are residents that complain about crime there too.

          • HaileUnlikely

            Your assertion to which I objected was that Columbia Heights (and Shaw) were among the safer areas in DC. That isn’t a question of changes and trends in Columbia Heights over some unspecified time period, it is a question of comparing violent crime (or some subset thereof if you wish) in Columbia Heights to in other neighborhoods, over long enough of a period of time for the numbers to be meaningful. If you feel safe in Columbia Heights, that’s cool. I don’t have any problem with that. What I am objecting to is the claim that Columbia Heights is one of the safer neighborhoods in DC. Again, the meaning of “one of the safer” is subjective, but it must be taken to mean something very strange in order to substantiate the claim with data.

  • in my opinion the only way to decrease the violence is to move the columbia heights village out of columbia heights.

  • How about we get the police to crack down on loitering? I see drug deals and other issues on 14th between Girard and Irving streets almost daily. I’m not sure the “broken windows” theory always works, but it would be worth a try in CH. I have seen an uptick in graffiti, outdoor pot smoking and trash in the neighborhood. I often feel like I am taking a risk if I walk on 14th street even in the middle of the day. I would attend Saturday’s meeting if I could. It would be great to have another time option.

  • Oh, Brianne will show up and say what people want to hear.
    But remember this:
    Brianne, first and foremost, supports building more section 8 housing in Ward 1 and Ward 4 (i.e. the Old Hebrew Home). The problems surrounding Columbia Heights Village will only grow North.
    Brianne isn’t helping the low-income renter community. She is preserving the perception that its okay to remain indigent and accept poverty as a way of life.
    Sadly, she is using these people for her PR campaign. They just don’t know it. She is surprisingly political.
    Fortunately, as more and more leftist voters move out of DC, the “moderate” council members will stay. As a moderate Liberal, I couldn’t be more excited.
    Go to the meeting. Hear what she has to say. But remember, it isn’t, and never will be, her number one issue. Not when her salary is $125,000/year.

  • What I don’t get is why myself and neighbors see drug dealing and gangs on the same corners every day. The same houses. The same developments. The same alleys. These trouble areas are known to the neighborhood, but when we tell the cops, they do nothing. Where are the arrests? Conduct a stakeout. Find probably cause. Do something proactive instead of just reacting.
    I’m afraid now the District has over corrected. They think if they send cops to all of these community meetings, then people will be happy despite the violent crime. Community meetings work once. Maybe twice. We want results now. Not more fake assurance that “we are doing all we can.” Well if so, where are the results!

  • The whole “DC is ‘safer’ now than it was X years ago” is getting old. Safer is a relative term. Even if the numbers are down, that doesn’t mean that a particular person doesn’t have the right to feel unsafe. I don’t feel unsafe in my neighborhood. But I don’t begrudge people who do.

    And on the subject of innocent people being hit by stray bullets, I think the relevant measure is not how many people get hit with bullets but how many times bullets are fired. How often are there reports of gunfire and the police show up to find no trace of a victim or anyone getting hit? If none of the bullets that were fired hit anybody, they were all stray bullets – each carrying the potential to kill or wound someone.

  • She could lobby for a mini police post as they did in Dupont Circle. There is definitely enough density to make the case.

    • Getting DPW to install the brighter LED lights on 14th Street would be a great move for public safety in Columbia Heights.

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