Protest Benches Gone – Triangle Space at 14th and Oak, NW Bulldozed – Renovations Underway

“Dear PoP,

What’s up with the little triangle shaped park at Oak and 14th? As of yesterday it’s blocked off with a chain link fence, the kind they use for construction sites.”

This is the park that had the protest benches. We spoke about the renovation plans here and here.

To see a bigger version of the rendering click here – dpr_14_oak_ogden_concept_201003

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  • I think that this is great, the park needs a facelift. Now what? Is it going to be safer, fewer drunks, less of a hangout for the Section 8’s? Doubt it. Guesss the trees and recesses will only increase the shadiness of the activity. It would of been better just to do away with it all together.

    • I hate to be so cynical, but what you are saying makes sense. Seems like the city just spent a bunch of money just to give riffraff a nicer hang out.

      • I really hope that the new park includes improved lighting. It will make all the difference.

        There is only one (1!) streetlight next to that park, and it is right behind the large tree, giving shade and darkness to all the drug dealing. Either cut the tree down (not in the plans), trim the branch shading the park, or add more lighting.

        Easy fix! But is anybody that can do these things reading this?

  • bfinpetworth

    What are “seating pods”? I guess a way for the “riffraff” to not have anywhere comfortable to sit.

    This comment thread took a bad turn at the getgo. Why oh why don’t people who live in Section 8 housing deserve some green space to enjoy? Are parks only a worthy investment when those of us who are better off will benefit?

  • There’s no doubt people in section 8 housing and their children need a nice green place to hang out, and who doesn’t like to have a drink al fresco? But this park has been drug deal central for a long time, with not enough lighting or police attention.

  • Also worth noting, the building next to the funeral home is under contract, has a few apartments and commercial/retail space on the ground level.

    I wish Bacon was a better neighbor… can the cinder block building be nominated for the horses ass award?

  • If by riffraff you mean BIG WHITE, he’s all for it! 😉 Hey, that’s my chair!

  • what are protest benches?

  • Back to the entitlement issue. If you choose to live in public assisted housing and have kids that’s a selfish move. Section 8 is replete with dangers and willingly accepting this entitlement comes with this cost. If you cannot afford to live safely in this city, MOVE OUT! There are other places in the country and in Washington’s suburbs that are much safer and cost less to live. All this public housing does is stymie any developing neighborhood from becoming safe and inviting. How’s that for being politically correct.

    • The assumption that people “choose” to live in public housing and have kids is such a ridiculous premise. People have kids and apartments and then lose their jobs and thus end up in housing. People get sick. Birth control fails. Did you not see the stories about the massive increase in those living in poverty? Are there people who have generations in Section 8, yes. Are some people making bad choices for their kids, yes. But to say that all people in Section 8 housing are being selfish is niave and completely ignoring the current economic reality in this country.

      • Thank you! The classism in these comments is so upsetting. DC throws around race a lot as a political tool, but what it masks is classism and a refusal to talk about it. And work to benefit people in all types of situations.

  • My boyfriend lives down the block from a public housing building. There is constant police presence because of break-ins (usually to cars) and other criminal activity. There is no shame in being poor, but if you’re getting government assistance, don’t be an ungrateful little prick.

    • the problem is not that there is no shame in being poor, it’s that there is no shame in receiving welfare. and there should be.
      and that shame should motivate you to get the hell off of welfare.

      but that’s all beside the point. new parks are always great! for rich, poor, and the shameless.

      • I would guess if public housing was a concrete box with running water and electricity, people would get pretty motivated to move out. Instead, give dishwashers, air conditioning, and washers/dryers. To really create incentive to stick around… how about a little waterfront living.

        • i’m the one that posted at 6:08. i should have clarified that i only meant my dis for able bodied people. children, the elderly, the sick and handicapped need as much compassion as we can give them.

          • Of course… and the concrete boxes should be for those that are temporarily down on their luck, so they don’t become permanently down on their luck, once they realize they can have everything (dishwasher, ac, w/d & stainless steel appliances) once they figure out how to work the system.

            I happen to know someone living in those waterfront units. Of course, he is the able-bodied boyfriend of the tenant that qualifies. He has a boat, nothing nice, but nicer than everyone who doesn’t have a boat. Now I only know one, but how many others are there? Also, he is included in the “below poverty” headlines that were just flaunted in the news… below poverty with a boat… what a terrible country!

  • I hate nice parks near Section 8 housing. We ought to get the city to stop improving the neighborhood immediately. So long as there’s poor people living in a building near this park, the park will always be full of drugs and thugs.


    Thank god we’re improving this park. It’s full of drugs and thugs and it’s extremely unpleasant. By making it a nice place to hang out and policing it better, perhaps we can really make a difference on upper 14th Street. I can’t wait until we get a nice park in our neighborhood.

    Perhaps Poon is naive, but a fair amount of optimism is warranted here. New Triangle Park = Big Improvement.

  • saf

    Do none of you people know the difference between public housing and section 8 rental assistance?

    • One is worst then the other to live near?

      • Neither is worse. Both should be acceptable forms of cost control and income. DC by allowing landlords to refuse rental assistance is contributing to the problem.

        I’ve lived on rental assistance in both NY state and in California. And live next to NYCPHA buildings right now. My neighborhood feels 100x safer than the parts of Petworth I lived in. Because our neighborhoods are truly mixed income.

        Are their problems with assistance? Of oourse, one of them is there is no incentive to improve your situation. As soon as you make too much money, you get thrown off assistance. It’s not variable.

        (There is also then incentive to make income off the books — i.e. drug dealing.)

        But the idea here that poor people seem to deserve their lot, and the community shouldn’t do anything to help them makes me incredibly sad and frustrated. Our American values used to include the idea that a safety was important. That the the wealth (and luck) of a few should benefit everyone.

  • unfortunately, no matter how nice this park renovation is, it will still be filled with 20-30 teenage thugs drinking and fighting every night.

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