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  • anon

    It appears it was a Little Tavern. The zoning case materials contain a lot of information about preserving and integrating the Little Tavern building, as well as some historical photographs.

    • hiphop anonymous

      Right next to Historic Kenny’s house

      • CTAM

        It’s SoDoSoPa!

  • ChooChooPolice

    Hopefully it doesn’t negatively impact alitteri, one of the best delis in DC, which is right across from this proposed development. An odd place to put an apartment building considering its surroundings.

    • PJL

      Um…have you seen the development plans for Union Market? That whole area is being developed.

      • Hill Denizen

        Exactly. If anything it would help A.Litteri. I do wish there was some sort of funding/concerted effort to spruce up the warehouses just south of Union Market. They’re kind of off-putting to the new demographics spending time in that area, but there’s some really worthwhile stuff that I’d hate to see go just because people were too intimidated to walk inside.

        • Bort

          Wouldn’t the “new demographics spending time in that area” be the group most suited to lead a concerted effort to spruce it up if they find it so objectionable in its present state? Also, why do you think these “new demographics” are sufficiently pansy-*ssed that they would not enter the businesses as they exist currently?

          • Hill Denizen

            On your first point, yes, though I don’t know what community leadership looks like in that area. And it isn’t objectionable, but people shop with their eyes, and it’s harder for businesses to compete if they’re the ugly ducklings on the block. When I’ve walked into the vendors in the area, the demographics of fellow shoppers did not look like that of Union Market, so they are missing out on attracting new customers. And to your last point, because this city is full of pansies who are wow-ed by the latest shiny object.

          • Bort

            Word. I had flashbacks to the pansification of NYC under Giuliani, and in my state of panic I misinterpreted your comment to be encouraging the coddling of the butter-soft yuppies some sprucing up would likely attract. I’m very much in favor of supporting the existing businesses which I guess is the other side of that coin. Full disclosure: I am very likely a butter-soft yuppie.

          • Carey

            I think it’s too late for DC. Once the last poor person is pushed out, they’ll set up the inner city version of Colonial Williamsburg for everyone to gawk at.

          • Bort

            Is the inner city version of Colonial Williamsburg in this full-pansy future something like…fixed-gear bike jousting? (With full pads, obviously). Facial hair-offs? Overpriced-juice-bag bricolage? If we find the right VC I bet we could turn this into several hundred million dollars, each.

        • Rich

          Actually, I hope they stick around long enough to annoy all the paearl clutchers who are clueless about how a city functions.

    • Anonymous

      What’s truly great about Litteri’s is actually not their sandwiches, which are cheap but you can easily find better elsewhere, but the amazing supply of pasta, sauce/gravy, olive oils, vinegars, assorted pickled and brined things, wine, etc. etc. etc.
      .
      If Litteri’s moves (or gets moved), it will lose some of its cachet, IMO. But definitely the surrounding area is visually rough. (And in the high heat of summer, really smelly.)

      • JustASandwich

        “Actually not their sandwiches, which are cheap but you can easily find better elsewhere”. Not true, at all. They are at least in the top 5 best sandwich shops in all of DC, if not top three. If I were power ranking sandwich shops in DC, it would be: 1. Carl’s Food 2. Mother Rucker 3. A A. Litteri 4. Mangialardo’s 5. Stachowski’s.

        • saf

          Vace too.

      • Bobert

        Half that stuff is expired, though. Not the best place to go if you want something reasonably fresh off the shelves.

        • Bobert

          Note, I do love a literri’s, just make sure to check the expiration date of anything you pull from the shelves.

        • Rich

          +100; Vace’s is a better source for packaged goods.

          • jaybird

            But much smaller a way fewer options

          • Anonymous

            Also, Rodman’s.

  • D

    Yes… the old photo can be found here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kinorama/4366167255/in/photolist-8svS2S-7DPKoR-7DPKpM-7EJycB-fBjvjn-8tyfGm-7ENoKN-7EK4FV-8tPYjE-8tPYko-8tPYm9-7CyUg1-7CLrDA-8tveRH

    and the blog all about the little taverns scattered across the city https://dinerhunter.com/little-tavern-locations/

    I really want them to retain the building, restore it, and integrate it into the market. It is actually considered “historical” and it has served many locals (and Gallaudet students) food 24 hours a day for many years… something that most restaurants weren’t willing to do for a very long time.

    It will also be really interesting to add dimensions/scaling to all of the development going on in the area. All of the massive, blocky buildings aren’t that exciting, but seeing this little gem is kinda cool… especially when it also connects to other buildings across DC (including SweetGreen AND Paolo’s Ristorante in Georgetown, the nail salon on H and 8th NE, and another on Pennsylvania Ave SE, etc).

    • anon

      That is exactly what they’re doing. See UrbanTurf for details. It appears there’s significant sacrifice of occupied building as a result. Since it’s exactly what you felt strongly about and they’re doing it, I hope you’ll write a letter in support for their zoning case.

      • JT

        Wish something like this had been done for the 600 block of Penn Ave SE Little Tavern building which was closed so CVS could have more storage room. :(

    • Little Tavern Lover

      I really want them to re-open a little tavern in the building. $5 bags of burgers need to come back.

  • Anonymous

    Since the sign has the case number, it is easy to locate the developer’s plans on the Office of Zoning web-site. From the web-site dcoz.dc.gov, simply go to the Interactive Zoning Information System and type in the case number: 16-05. That will take you to the link for all the filings in the case, which includes several version of the plans and the Office of Planning report.
    A direct link to the documents is at
    https://app.dcoz.dc.gov/Content/Search/ViewCaseReport.aspx?case_id=16-05
    and click on “View Full Log”
    The hearing is scheduled for June 15 at 6:30 pm.

  • Mike

    It’ll be interesting to see this area in 5-10 years. The Wharf, Navy Yard, 14th Street, and what’s now Noma have significantly transformed in the last 10 years. Union Market/Fl Ave will now get the treatment. Should be interesting to see which buildings get incorporated and which don’t survive.

    • _____Woods

      yeah but those areas are near metro stations, this one is not as accessible. Also, isn’t that what they said in 2007 that values will always be increasing?

      • PViewRes

        The NoMa station is just as close, if not closer, to this development than any station is to 14th St.

      • Truxton Thomas

        This is, like, four blocks from the NoMa Metro station.

        • Rich

          Even with GPS, etc., this is DC and people will whine.

      • ryan2499

        ??? NoMa/FL Ave metro is .5 mile from Union Market, 10 minute walk. Even closer if you are only going to FL Ave end of the wholesale market area.

        • anon

          Plus there’s a planned pedestrian tunnel under the Central Armature development that will speed things up even more.

      • Anony

        Agreed, but this is only .5 from the NoMa Metro so not too much different although it does feel isolated. Perhaps development will connect the two areas and make it ‘feel’ closer?

        • Hill Denizen

          NoMa station is very close, though it feels isolated because it isn’t a particularly pleasant walk. Either way, H Street is actually far from a metro and that didn’t stop development there. There’s also a lot coming into Ivy City and that area isn’t very close to a metro.

          • Anony

            I wouldn’t bet on the far end of H St. for the long-term or even Ivy City for that reason. There is only so much development that can happen close to a Metro and many stations aren’t saturated yet.

            Those two areas you mention are too far away and the Streetcar is a $100M joke (I support public transit but very disappointed in this project). Just wait until they actually start to charge and you’ll see ridership plummet. Remember it is FREE right now

          • Bobert

            There are plans to redevelop pretty much every non-rowhouse block between NoMa and Union Market., as well as serious plans to redo FLA to make it more pedestrian and bike-friendly. The walk will be much more pleasant in a couple of years.

          • Hill Denizen

            I don’t disagree on the streetcar, but H Street has been thriving for years. It’s surrounded by residential areas and customers who will patronize those businesses. Will it lose some of its cache, sure, and it probably already has, but I don’t think we’re going to see it go back to what it was 15 years ago, especially with more development in the western parts of H Street inching closer and making the area feel more connected.

          • MadMax

            “I wouldn’t bet on the far end of H St. for the long-term or even Ivy City for that reason.”
            That’s like saying you wouldn’t be on the Patriots to ever win a Super Bowl. It’s already happened. There’s no point betting, the game is over, the development has begun and people with real money to bet are already investing.

          • Anony

            @MadMax, I said for the ‘long-term’.

            No doubt H St. (not so sure about Ivy City) is thriving. My point was down the line when development slows, which it will, this is an area that I wouldn’t want to be invested in for the long-term. There are many factors at play with a big one being the lack of Metro.

          • CRT

            This is a truly silly argument. The eastern end of H St is already developed, and lots of new condos / developments are now moving onto Benning Road. Eventually the Hechinger Mall will finally be redeveloped and thousands of new apartment / condo units will go in there. But I guess you suppose the city is going to just suddenly start shrinking 5%/year and all the people that have paid 7 figures for row homes in the area will flee to the burbs and take a 50% loss on their investments….

          • Anon

            Metro is less important now – Uber/Lyft and Capital Bikeshare have made everything more accessible. Metro alternatives keep getting better, and Metro itself keeps getting worse.

        • JB_Brookland

          Agree with posters that note Ivy City and H Street are already there. There’s already so much money going in, it’s hard to imagine these areas not being successful. With Uber/Lyft and their carpool versions, as well as more and more people able to work remotely, proximity to metro is not quite as important as it once was. Moreover, some of the new apartments, like Hecht Warehouse already does, will offer shuttles to metro. And many young families in NE (including us in Brookland) have a car. We for one find ourselves driving to H Street and Ivy City on weekends all the time (and frankly, it’s often a lot easier to get a toddler places in the car rather than stroller to metro etc.). I think there’s a lot of reasons to bet big on NE, particularly as downtown moves further and further east with offices coming to Chinatown, then NoMa. And developers already have and will continue to.

          • MM

            I’m curious what folks do when they go to Ivy City. I’ve driven by and noticed the Nike store and I think a Mom’s, and I know the Hecht’s space is being or has been converted into apartments, but what else is there to do or see?

          • IVY CITY SMOKEHOUSE!! (and a bunch of distilleries) and scroll away for all the goods (and bads) https://www.popville.com/category/locations/ivy-city/

          • MM

            Well that sounds delicious! Thanks, Dan

          • JB_Brookland

            POP nails it. Ivy City Smokehouse is great — both to eat there and to pick up ridiculously cheap delicious lox and other seafood to go. There’s four distilleries plus a brewery that draw people, and a couple of them have really nice bars inside. There’s a really awesome looking bar/venue I want to check out, but haven’t been able yet (life of a parent of a toddler), called Big Chief. Has a lot of live music, including New Orleans-style big brass bands. I really like the Mexican restaurant, La Puerte Verde, and on weekends, we frequent the diner, Ari’s Diner, before getting groceries at Mom’s. I’ve also caught a soccer game at the soccer bar, Dock FC. In sum, right now it’s mostly drinking and eating, with a little errands on the side (groceries, Petco). But there’s plenty of good drinking and eating, and a lot more stuff will be coming, including more restaurants, a big Compass Coffee that includes their roastery, and shops.

          • Truxton Thomas

            Also Ari’s Diner, Puerto Verde Mexican joint, Greenhat Gin, Atlas Brewing Co., and various shops for the residents. Pull in and take a look.

          • divebar311

            It must have been a while since you’ve been there MM but the Hecht building has been operating as an apartment complex for almost two years now….yes you should come by and check it out!

            Echo the comments others have stated but there is also Galley Foods (basement of Love), Bikrham Yoga, Pidzza, Bicycle Space, Crossfit, Union Kitchen (some burger pop up is in there) and the only MOM’s in DC.

            Not to mention Compass Coffee is opening a large facility on Fenwick and Okie Street, a new bowling alley is coming and City Winery is opening into the old Love!

          • JB_Brookland

            I forgot about the bowling alley! Pretty excited about that one.

          • ontarioroader

            Motorcycle shop with DIY space should be opening up soon on Fenwick St NE also.

          • MadMax

            La Puerta Verde is the best Mexican I’ve had in DC (there’s a place in Hyattsville that’s better, but drives and lines and blah). It’s not divey like some of the spots up 14th, but it’s really legit.

    • ryan2499

      My kids have been going to school at 4th & FL Ave NE since 2012 and will continue to be there through spring of 2026. It’s been fascinating to watch so far and I’m sure it will only continue to get more interesting.

      Now if we could just get a pedestrian bridge that connects west of NY & FL Ave to the east side, that’d be lovely.

      • Bobert

        The development going into the old Armature building seeks to build a large/wide pedestrian tunnel that connects to the metro/west side of the tracks.

        • ryan2499

          Ooh for real? I’ll have to keep an eye on that. I dream of my kiddos being able to bike/walk to school, but not if it means going street level across NY/FL Ave intersection.

          • Bobert

            Search for “Armature” on the UrbanTurf website for details/renderings. Looks pretty neat to me!

    • anon

      This is now a historic district, so many facades will survive.

  • Lisa

    Wonder how much $$ the Subway owners got?

  • MadMax

    Subway bread always smells so weird. This one you can even smell from the street. There’s no need to preserve this simply because it’s old.

    • Hill Denizen

      That’s what always weirded me out the most. It smells exactly the same everywhere in the world. Like, I’ve been to foreign countries and could smell there was a Subway nearby before I ever saw it.

      • AMDCer

        Same goes for McDonald’s – I once found one down a random long corridor in a train station in Japan by following the scent.

        • MadMax

          Popeye’s too. Although McDonald’s fries (the smell I associate with them) and fried chicken are arguably much more pleasing than Subway’s weird bread. That is unless you live next to one, then the fry smell probably gets old quick.

          • Bobert

            You mean the smell of diabetes and early onset heart failure?

  • Otis Gal

    An ANC Commissioner told me our power supply isn’t keeping up with the new condos hence the periodic blackouts we’ve been experiencing. I wonder what other infrastructure isn’t meeting demand as well.

  • JustASandwich

    I’m fine with that area becoming another cook cutter wasteland of nothing unique. I wanted to like Union Market but its just an upscale food court for yuppies. I loath the one or two times a year I get dragged to Union market. The only place in the area worth anything is A. Litteri. The rest of it (Union Market) is useless.

    • Bobert

      I wonder if there aren’t others with a similar opinion as yours. Perhaps if you all band together you could get all these developers to reconsider their multi-billion dollar plans to redevelop the area.

      • JB_Brookland

        “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

        I don’t disagree that Union Market is primarily an upscale food court. But I think there’s a lot of people, including me, that appreciate it as an upscale food court, in addition to being able to get stuff like meat from Harvey’s. And there’s a lot of people who frequent Union Market, so obviously they are doing something right in the eyes of many, many, many people.

    • MadMax

      Worth is an abstract term. There is a large variety of very high quality products in Union Market, do you mean you just don’t like that you can’t afford them? (in comparison to the relatively inexpensive options sometimes available at A. Litteri)

      • Truxton Thomas

        No, no—it’s worthless. JustASandwich hath spoken.

      • JustASandwich

        Affording it isn’t the problem. I just don’t find anything in Union Market particular special. If I’m actually going to buy produce & meats, I’m going Eastern market 100% of the time. Better selection, quality, and price. And during the summer months when Eastern has the outside vendors; forget about it. No comparison. Union Market is where people go to kill an afternoon and eat yuppie food. But hey, some people like that kind of thing, which is cool. Just not my thing.

        • MadMax

          With regard to meat, there is not a single vendor at Eastern Market selling anything of the quality that you find at Red Apron in Union Market. The selection of cheeses at Righteous Cheese surpasses what you’ll find at Eastern Market as well. The baked goods are far better. All of these are more expensive than their Eastern Market competitors, for sure. Eastern Market definitely beats them on produce, but that’s largely due to the sheer volume that you can find at Eastern Market. I live equidistant to both, and go to both for different things, but stop pretending like there’s nothing of substance there.

    • Bort

      Yoon Ha (R.I.P.) was another place that was worth a damn.

    • CRT

      Yes, how I long for the uniqueness that NE used to possess – where or where are my open air drug markets and homeless men urinating on the sidewalk at 2 PM? That was so unique!

      • Bobert

        Since when is H and 8th NE no longer in the NE?

      • Anon

        Don’t worry you can still find plenty of prostitutes in NE. I saw a half dozen of them around 4:30 this morning on West Virginia Ave on the way to work.

  • Anonymous

    Well if the proposed building looks anything like the renderings–That will be one sweet looking building. One thing I don’t like is those cave live balconies. Seems like pigeons would live in them.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, the renderings remind me of the buildings that the Washington Post described as the “Mediocre Mile” along Mass Ave.

  • Rach

    I really hope this doesn’t affect/take away space from the parking lot at Union Market. Even though I don’t live too far away it’s nice to have the option to drive when the weather is crappy.

  • pstreet202

    Not sure how many POPers have been in the area long enough to remember Little Tavern?? They were all over DC and Baltimore. Sacks of little burgers, not too different from White Castle. This site has an interesting list of most Little Tavern locations and what stands there now. https://dinerhunter.com/2009/10/22/little-tavern-locations-past-and-present/

  • Vintage Image: https://flic.kr/p/7EJycB

  • Bob Chipeska

    How are they going to squeeze 280 units into that little building???

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