• Anonymous

    is that even legal?

    • Walker, DC Ranger

      Is this a meme now on Popville, or are you serious?

      For a town filled to the brim with lawyers, it’s amazing how often this question gets asked. No common sense.

      • ET

        A town filled with lawyers can still have plenty of people to do things just cause – if it it isn’t legal. And when it comes to property people will do everything and anything they can get away with. The owner may have preferred to raze (without permits) it and make money with a parking lot and hope nobody noticed so as not to go though the hassle. And if they city did jump on them what would happen? They would get a fine and a slap on the wrist.

      • Anonymous

        i am being serious and sorry if i haven’t seen it here before. i am serious because it looks like it doesn’t follow the rules of height restriction limiting building heights to the width of the right-of-way of the street or avenue on which a building fronts. P street’s not that wide. it seems insanely tall. and p.s. can you not insult people’s intelligence while someone’s asking a simple question? please and thank you.

        • Walker, DC Ranger

          I wasn’t insulting your intelligence, I was saying that that question gets asked over and over and over again here, and common sense would dictate that a 4 story building would, in fact, fall within the limits imposed by the Height Act. Did you even bother to count the stories?

          I get mad at people here in DC who are always all-too-willing to jump to the law, and lawyers, and have a “this offends my sensibilities – it must be illegal” attitude. Most often, they’re not even from here. This city used to be laid-back, and this pearl-clutching is getting worse every year.

          Do I question if your off-the-leash dog or new artisanal goat cheese store is illegal? No. It’s your private property, and if it’s not affecting others, it’s your right to do with it as you please. I’m so far left I’m a Social Democrat, yet even I’m fed up with the busybodiness of all the newcomers to this city. I’m sure David Gregory was asking the same thing when he was throwing his temper tantrum in Gtown the other day.

          Now, however, I am insulting your intelligence because you don’t seem to understand proper grammar.

      • John B.

        I think it’s a pretty good question. Not exactly the same thing but in my own neighborhood (Mt. Pleasant) there was a conversion of a row house to a 4-unit condo that greatly expanded the building, towering over the house and yard next to it. Turns out it wasn’t legal–in the sense that the permits were issued improperly–but by the time anybody figured that out it was already built.

        Meanwhile a few doors down from me somebody is digging out a basement with no permits posted. I asked one of the guys working about their permits and he said “screw that”. I called the DCRA number to report illegal construction, but several weeks later no stop work orders have gone up, they’re still working on it and still no permits. (Assuming they DO have the permits–which I should be able to find out from the DCRA website but good luck with that–aren’t they required to post them?) I’m a big proponent of home improvement and was happy when our next-door neighbor did a similar project but I’m a bit resentful as my husband and I (as well as our neighbors) did everything by the book and jumped through all the hoops and had our project delayed by months when we did a major home renovation project a few years ago.

  • The Jimmy

    Wow, it almost looks like it fits into the general landscape of the neighborhood. Let me guess…it is not in a historic district.

  • They tore down two houses and the best development anyone could get was surface parking? I’m pretty shocked that in 5 years new condos haven’t sprung up there. That’s way more lucrative than surface parking.

  • Anonymous

    This is completely tasteless. I’d be embarrassed to own this building. I guess some folks don’t have much self esteem :/

  • Does anyone know whether the burned out shells were longtime shells or (then) recently burned down? I imagine the shell has value for replacement/rebuilding, but not forever.

    • ET

      The original pic was 2008 so it hasn’t been that long. There have burned out / abandoned buildings for decades around here.

  • What a shame that the facades of those buildings (well, the less-damaged of the two, at any rate) couldn’t have been saved. That was a nice little stretch of four similar houses; now there are only two.

    And what jeslett said… the best the owner can do is a parking lot?? Maybe they’re just sitting on the property in the hope of selling for a higher amount later on, but it seems like they’d be making precious little off it in the interim.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone look at the location? Unit block of P – just off N. Capitol. This is still a bit of a raggedy patch. No one really knows what’s going to develop there, so I think property owners are in a bit of a “holding pattern.”

    Also, DCRA is so phenomenally dysfunctional and obstructionist that it can take a year to get a raze permit, building permits etc. So a parking lot might at least bring in $1000.00 a month while you’re struggling through all the process.

  • It is a northern Virginia address, so they likely don’t care about the neighborhood. Also, assuming they got these places when they were burned out shells (maybe they bought in the 90s) that $2000 a month in parking revenue is probably pure profit at this point. Though I agree, wish we could get something better here.


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