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Good Deal or Not? “new beautiful renovation” edition

by Prince Of Petworth November 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm 32 Comments

This home is located at 1367 Perry Place, NW:

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The flier says:

“A new beautiful renovation in Columbia Heights – steps from Tivoli Square shopping and restaurants. 3 bdrm (2 master suties) and 3 full bath with finished basement. Bamboo flooring, granite counter tops, stainless steel appliances, maple cabinets, marble bathrooms and many more amenities.”

You can find more info here and a mouse on house tour here.

What do you think of the renovation? Does $569,900 sound right for this 3 bed/3 bath home?

  • Kev29

    That’s some purty grass in the backyard, but why would they not cut half of it out and create secure off-street parking? Especially with such an awkward, narrow street in front.

    • Anonymous

      I have a car and would rather have as much backyard as possible and park on the street.

    • Yes, a parking pad would have been a great addition to this home.

  • Anonymous

    They mixed up the second floor bedroom with the basement. Given the location, I would say good deal.

  • Tres

    I like the house. Small but nice. It looks like the house down the block is on the market too: 14301430 This has much nicer finishes, but no in law suite. No 4th bedroom, but 2 walk in closets and upper level bathrooms. Both offered at the same price.

    • Tres

      argh, cut and paste snafu. 1430 Perry Place is also on the market…

      • Kev29

        14301430 – that’s way uptown! ;-)

        (Captcha = LARD)

  • jcm

    What do you all think of the second floor layout? I have three bedrooms and one bath 2nd floor right now, and I’ve considered doing what these people did and making the middle bedroom a bath and closet for the master. Does that negatively affect resale value?

    I like the idea of sticking a 3rd bedroom in the basement. I suppose I could do the same for not too much money.

    • pwor

      I personally dislike the 2nd floor layout–as much as I like the extra bath and closet space, having 2 beds up and one in the basement seems a better fit for a roommate situation. And in terms of resale value, my guess is that people looking for 3BR houses expect them all to be on the same floor. Unless you market it as a 2BR/2 master suite and a rental unit in the basement.

      That said, if you’re going to live there for a long time, do what works for you and your living situation. It may take a resale hit down the road, but if that’s 10 years out, make the house work for you.

  • WDC

    A wide-open ground floor is a major pet peeve of mine. I need some division between the front door and the living space, if for nothing but draft control. And between the living room and dining room. Basically the entire floor (and so the entire public area of the house) can only be used for one purpose at a time. This is not a good set-up for a family.

    • Fred “The Dorf” Dorfman

      Agreed. I’m renovating a house with the identical floor plan and I chose to keep the original feel of four separate rooms downstairs (foyer, living, dining, kitchen). Also: powder room. It’s tough having guests over and making them go upstairs or into the basement, and it increases foot traffic. There’s just no chance of putting a powder room in once you turn the ground floor into a giant room.

      There’s also the issue of whether those joists can actually hold the second floor up. There’s reinforcement in the basement of these houses (usually a steel beam), so that makes me think that removing the load-bearing walls that separate the kitchen from the dining room and the living room from the foyer is a long-term mistake. There’s no header in the kitchen to bear the weight of the floor above, and same goes for the foyer. My hunch is that the second floor is going to start to sag in a decade.

      As for the price, I think these houses (one on Holmead, a couple on Parkwood, one on Otis, etc.) that have just been listed are all reasonably close to their actual value, and I expect them to sell.

      • WDC

        Good call on keeping the origianl layout, with modifications. Mine has an open kitchen/dining room, and an added-on powder room. Pocket doors to the living room, which is perfect, because it’s open, but flexible.

        I would hope that no plan that would result in long-term structural damage would be approved, but in DC, who knows. I guess the builders are banking on the structural strength of the nice solid old houses, and being long gone by the time any negative effects become evident.

        Also agree that it will go for asking. Probably to a first-time buyer with no bad experiences.

      • SF

        Yes, it’s better to keep the original feel. We kept the original shotgun layout while opening up some space between the kitchen and the dining room to increase social areas. We also had to consider what to do about a load bearing beam in the center of the house– several contractors said they would just remove the wall and be done with it, but we went with a contractor who agreed that the second floor needed continuous support and brought in an engineer to design it. It was more expensive, but at least we know our house is solid.

  • Reba

    Cute house –light and bright, which is great.

    I was wondering the same thing, jcm. We have almost the exact layout and plan to keep the front bedroom an office/nursery/whatever just b/c it fits our own needs best. I’d also prefer a powder room on the first floor. I think most of this stuff is personal preference, though –this seems ideal for roommates, rather than a family.

  • Squeal Like a Pig

    Oooh! It’s a real Wardman!

    • Harry Wardman

      It is indeed. But once you’ve gutted the whole thing like they did here, what’s the point?

      Yes, you have exterior walls made from lovely materials I suppose.

      • Anonymous

        and the exterior of the design making for a nice row, maintaining the history.

  • Emblique

    Wardman built houses stronger than a brick shit house. Much better than Kennedy Bros.

  • I like my rillette picante!

    Isn’t this where that old guy was stabbed to death not too long ago?

  • playaplease

    I like that the stairs go up from the back of the house. That gives gives you a wider living room where you really need the room rather than the kitchen and dinning room.

  • mmm

    I think it looks nice — I like the layout. Only complaints are the size of the kitchen area (looks really cramped) and some of the detailing (I don’t like those railings at all). But overall, the renovation looks pretty good to me.

    They flipped really quickly: here’s the sold page: http://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1367-Perry-Pl-NW-20010/home/10026285/mris-DC7402420

  • playaplease

    ^ Ignore

    • Why?


  • So Sad

    Poor guy!

  • Anonymous

    Why is there no closet on the first floor? Do people not hang anything up anymore? Also why no kitchen counter space? Both of those are really bad design flaws. Looks clean but soulless.

    • Anonymous

      interesting. do many houses this old have closets on the first floor? my house doesn’t.

      • anon.

        This is not an old house (on the inside).
        This is a really small space. Choices were made.
        No closet. No powder room.
        It looks very nice, but I don’t like it.

        • Anonymous

          i was referencing the previous posters question, “Do people not hang anything up anymore?”. it was asked as if old house did have them. i didn’t think that was the case, so i was asking.

  • Anon

    I like how they opened up the rafters and are getting all that extra light. Think the upstairs bathrooms seem kind of jumbled.

  • Anon

    And carpet in a basement? When will they ever learn!

  • db

    The original house, like all the houses in Holmead Village, had a butler’s pantry between the foyer and kitchen. Basically a closet.


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