Scuttlebutt Confirmed: 4 Fields (4Ps) Closing in Nov. in Cleveland Park

A couple of weeks ago I shared some scuttlebutt that 4 Fields (formerly 4Ps) would be closing in Nov. at 3412 Connecticut Ave, NW in Cleveland Park. The owner confirms on the Cleveland Park listserv:


Sadly the rumors are true. It is with heavy heart and with much regret for me to inform you that Ireland’s Four Fields will close on November 5, 2011. Unfortunately, the requested increase in monthly demands will not make it economically feasible to remain at this location. It is my understanding that the building will be leased to a chain restaurant.

Ireland’s Four Fields (the old 4P’s) has been a member and a proud contributor to the DC community and especially to Cleveland Park for over 35 years. We are a neighborhood and a DC icon. We have been host for numerous events: fundraisers, reunions, receptions and wakes, among other things. Many, many wonderful memories were made here. I discovered many years ago that no matter how far I traveled, I would always run into someone that had either been here or had heard of us.

As for me, I have come full circle. I opened the doors to the 4P’s in 1976 as manager, one of the few Irish restaurants at that time, and I will now be here the day the doors close.

My intentions are to reopen at a different location and I have several options which I am currently exploring. I will be sure to keep everyone updated.

I would like especially to thank all of you for your continued patronage and friendship over the years. I have enjoyed meeting all of you. I hope to see all of you before we close.


The owner mentions that he hears the space will be leased to a “chain restaurant”. Back in Nov. I heard a McFadden’s had leased the space. I’ve heard a little bit more scuttlebutt on that front. I am still hearing that the ownership behind McFadden’s has leased the space but there is actually a different concept planned. So it is very unlikely that we’ll see a clone of McFadden’s on Pennsylvania Ave, NW set up shop here. It’s not even clear what the new name will be. In Nov. I’ll try to get more details. And if 4 Fields finds a new location, I’ll be sure to update that info as well.

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  • Petworth could use a little Irish. Come on over to GA Ave.

  • andy

    McRoni & Brothers Pizza & Fish & Chips & Things.

  • Genuinely feel bad for a guy that’s been running a bar in that spot for so long. But the ante has been upped in the DC bar scene, stale Irish bars are not really cutting it these days. Plus, neighborhoods west of the Park are soooo dead (though building owners don’t want to admit it, hence rent disputes).

    • I thought this place would rise with the tide of VA bros moving to CP, but I guess they can all afford the cab fare to Lauriol Plaza and/or don’t mind giving their money to racist asshats at Jack Rose.

      Also, please don’t move to Petworth, having the crap beer and megacrap food of an Irish bar anywhere near Meridian Pint would be like opening a Wendy’s next to a Five Guys.

    • I wouldn’t call the 4P’s stale, but I can’t vouch for the food. It was a great place to grab a few beers. As for CP and neighborhoods west of the Park being “stale,” I’d have to disagree. The bias in favor of gentrifying neighborhoods on this blog is laughable at times and staements like that are just plain dumb. The way that any crap that goes into H Street or Columbia Heights is glorified and anything in Cleveland Park or Georgetown is vilified is too simplistic to be taken seriously. There are great things going on in a lot of city neighborhoods right now, and we should all be happy about that. But to write off a big part of the city that happens to include the most affluent neighborhoods in the city is ridiculous.

  • More reason to just go to Nanny O’Brien’s.

  • Hate to see any business close, and hope they find a new location. And if they do, I suggest they seriously improve the food. We went a few weeks ago with 12 people and not a single thing – burgers, veggie burgers, gross potato “nachos” – was even marginally edible.

  • The RENTS in this city are TOO DAMN HIGH!

  • @victoria, I totally agree about the food. I tried to like that place, but the food and service were horrible! Sorry to see a locally owned business go under, but excited to possibly get some good food in that building.

  • Sad to see this place close. Aside from people apparently expecting to patronize an irish bar “for the food” and others declaring these WeRCP (See what i did there?) hoods “dead,” it was still a very enjoyable place to go and throw a few back with my friends.

  • i have to disagree about the food…their chicken fingers are crazy good, and the irish nachos have a special place in my heart as i’ve ordered them many times while playing a drunken round of photo-hunt at the end of the bar. 4ps, you’ll be missed.

  • Sorry to see it close, especially since people seemed to like and support it, but every time I went, it smelled like vomit to me. Literally, like vomit.

    I kept trying to like it, hoping the smell would change, but finally gave up.

    Also, what does “the requested increase in monthly demands” mean? Can’t he just say rent? Or expenses? …ah, unless he means payouts to the mob?

  • Cool atmosphere and great seating area outside, but the service was usually terrible, and sometimes downright rude. I quit going there a long time ago. They could’ve used an intervention from those “Bar Rescue” TV show people.

  • McFadden’s is owned by a company called East Coast Saloons. They also own Sign of the Whale.

    McFadden’s is their best known chain, but they have some other brands too. Here’s a list of all their bars nationwide:

    All seem to be basically copies of each other, just with slightly different branding. Sad to see the 4P’s replaced by something so generic.

    • And if you look at the reviews for these bars on the various review sites, they’re almost universally horrible. I don’t have much hope for it not sucking.

  • This is incredibly sad… 4Ps I wish you would stay! I was there just yesterday and the place was the busiest I’ve seen it since…well.. St. Patty’s day. ON A MONDAY. Maybe it was because of the outdoor seating but there was only one bartender and a barback waiting on easily 40+ people. It makes me think they’ve already started letting people go..

    • That’s funny you say that – it was busy on the patio because I was having my birthday party! I had to send off the 4 Ps in style. Hate to see it go. also, that waitress was awesome, and gave awesome service for having 40+ customers.

  • Oh well, I had a lot of fun in this place. It was one of the reliable bars that would serve me and my underage friends. This is back in the 80’s when the drinking age was 18. We played a lot of darts and drank a lot of pints. It was a fun place for a teen. I must admit that I didn’t go back very often after I grew up some. When I did, a year or so ago, the place was a bit tired and old.

  • I love this place, sad to see it go. It was much better than Nanny O’Brians across the street, the two times I went there they blatantly overcharged me.

    4P’s had things wrong with it, granted, but it was still a helluva place to grab some beers and I will never forget those Irish Nachos. Seriously chill place, and the bartenders there rock.

  • “…neighborhoods west of the Park are soooo dead.” Bwahahaha! Your blog is so cute, in a I’m-not-really-cool-unless-there’s-a-very-real-possibility-of-getting-stabbed-in-front-of-my-faux-loft-in-broad-daylight kind of way.
    P.S. Who goes to an Irish bar for the food??

  • The 4 Ps was a good place to meet friends for a pint before a movie, but as much as I like Irish music on St. Paddy’s Day, it was always too LOUD.

  • Come to Petworth!!!!!

  • how can we all just stand and watch our CP landmark just disappear due to an massive increase ?? What can be done ?? who can we call??

  • You can call the moving trucks to have them moved to the former Brightwood Bistro.

  • If east coast saloons do as good as job cleaning this up as they did sign of the whale it will still be a great place to have fun and a couple of beers.

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