Friday question of the day

As I think is very well known, I love Temperance Hall. I honestly think it is near perfect. So do we need another neighborhood bar? Or would you rather have something that we don’t have yet like a bookstore or all the other ideas people put forth a few weeks ago. Yet, if you look at H Street, NE there seems to be bar after bar opening and they appear to be doing well. So what is the best way to spur development – to open a series of bars/restaurants and hope other development follows? Or can we have one perfect bar and hope that, that will attract the other types of development that we seek, ie coffee shop, bakery, chocolate shop etc? Will it occur when the big condos over the metro are built? So are there any economists out there? Urban planners? How the hell does “development” occur? And what role will the great streets initiative play? Somebody explain a few scenarios to me please.

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  • My thought is that you can go to a bookstore anywhere in the city. But a great bar or restaurant, people will travel to different neighborhoods for that. So yes, while Temperance Hall is heaven on earth, I’d like to see more of its kind.

  • i think what englert did on h street has been great for future development. although some people complain that development is too bar heavy, i think this initial spurt was necessary to get other places people want in the neighborhood (e.g. restaurants, coffee shops, etc.). you now hear of new non-bar establishments set to open all the time. because of englert and the city’s investment in the streetscape plan, h street will be a VERY different place in less than five years. absent those two factors, i don’t think you would have seen significant change for another ten.

  • Temp. Hall is cool, but it certainly has its flaws, as most reviews of the place point out. We need some competition in the PW–it’s the American way. I hope that T.Hall’s success paves the way for more good bars b/c that will only make the neighborhood better.

  • I would love to see a locally owned neighborhood business in Petworth. But I think we should also explore businesses unrelated to food and drinking. There’s a huge array of need for the neighborhood like: a “gymboree” for children; a “color me mine” creative outlet store; a bookstore/coffee shop similar to Kramer’s; hardware or nursery store; an indoor arcade for children and adults (think Dave & Busters)…the list goes on and on. Let’s think outside the food and beverage box and make Petworth a destination not only for residents but others in the district!

  • Does anyone know what Beveragemania will be yet?

  • im a longtime petworthian, one who has alternately lamented and seethed over the lack of a bookstore “east of the park”, as old school washingtonians like to say.
    if the “g word” means the eventual presence of services and business all citizens of this city should have had from the get go, well-bring it on..(or continue to). i’d be a regular at said bookstore-that’s for sure.

  • I’d like to see something that combines the best of a couple of worlds, like a bookstore that has activities for kids, readings for adults, a coffee or juice bar for people who just want to hang out for a while — and books and other materials to browse or buy, of course. Any place that brings a community together is worthwhile.

  • A bookstore, a hardware store, a decent bakery, a decent grocery store, an independent movie theater… these are a few of my coveted things.

    Bars and restaurants are good things to have around. I like to eat and drink. But I also like other things, and would LOVE not to have to go elsewhere for them.

    And of course, my mantra: locally owned non-chain!


  • I agree with j conn. Temp. Hall is fine, but there needs to be some competition. Perhaps a place with a more developed patio or outside (roofdeck?). While the patio at Temp. Hall is okay, it’d be nich to sit somewhere with a view of something other than the back of someone else’s neck.

    Oh, and I’d like to have a local hardware store with some old feller hanging out at the front with broom giving useless advice.

  • Speaking of patios and roof decks, I do not understand why the great roof deck at Sweet Mango is seemingly so underutilized. I finally managed to go a couple of weeks ago (after 4 years of procrastination) and it was great. The deck is spacious and great for people watching. Our bartender that night was extremely friendly and talkative, telling us some of the history of the place. Small downsides are the limited beer selection and the unpredictability of when it is actually open. Our bartender said they’re trying to open the upstairs on a more regular and frequent basis. I haven’t eaten there but have heard many times how good the food is. I’ll be back.

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