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Dacha Hoping to Stay Open Later (Inside)

by Prince Of Petworth July 25, 2016 at 10:55 am 30 Comments

dacha
7th and Q Street, NW

Update from Dacha:

“We are required to apply for change of hours for the license, but that does not mean the hours for the outside component of our operations will change.

The indoor component, which had no hours of operations previously, gets customary hours that we agreed upon in the last neighborhood agreement. The outdoor component – sidewalk cafe – will have exactly the same hours as it has now. This will be stipulated in the license when it is issued. It would be impractical (if not impossible) for us to apply for change of hours for the outdoor component because that would violate our agreement with the neighborhood.”

From a liquor license application change for Dacha Beer Garden:

“Applicant requests a Change of Hours of operation and alcoholic beverage sales and consumption.

CURRENT HOURS OF OPERATION
Sunday through Thursday 7:00 am- 10:30 pm, Friday and Saturday 7:00 am –11:59 pm

CURRENT HOURS OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES/SERVICE/CONSUMPTION
Sunday through Thursday 8:00 am- 10:30 pm, Friday and Saturday 8:00 am –11:59 pm

CURRENT HOURS OF LIVE ENTERTAINMENT
Sunday through Thursday 6:00 pm- 10:30 pm, Friday and Saturday 6:00 pm –11:59 pm

PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION
Sunday through Thursday 7:00 am- 2:00 am, Friday and Saturday 7:00 am –3:00 am

PROPOSED HOURS OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES/SERVICE/CONSUMPTION
Sunday through Thursday 8:00 am- 2:00 am, Friday and Saturday 8:00 am –3:00 am”

  • NH Ave Hiker

    3 am, woof. I’m sure neighbors wouldn’t be happy about that.

    • Caleb

      Mhmm…This is why NIMBY’s don’t want to let these establishments in to start with…once you give them an inch, they try to take a mile.

  • Dognonymous

    Insert Michael Jackson popcorn gif here.

  • Q

    They open at 7am? Really?

    • eggs

      This is exactly what I was thinking haha!

    • Anon

      Yes. They sell all sorts of breakfast items in the morning.

  • stacksp

    Always a line when I drive past. No longer even try to go in there anymore.

    • Jaredd

      I stopped going when they put PBR on tap……

  • Anon

    Yea, good luck with that….

  • P. Lecheval

    Yeah, and I’m hoping to achieve world peace.

  • Shawnnnnnn

    Next compromise will be to actually just put a roof over the beer garden to get the extended hours. And then walls. And then stop calling it a beer garden and it just turns into a totally ordinary bar. And people stop going.

    • Hill Denizen

      It’s already lost all that makes a beer garden appealing anyways.

      • tx2dc

        +1 This place pretty much defines the term clusterf–k. It was anxiety-indicingly packed both times I went. It was very unpleasant.

        • stacksp

          Can you really fault of place for being popular?

          • Hill Denizen

            Can’t fault it, I just won’t patronize it. Different strokes.

          • Shawnnnnnn

            It’s also only busy during certain peak times that I avoid. I have been plenty of times where I was easily able to sit at a table comfortably.

            Frankly extending the hours would extend the options for me of when I might actually enjoy going.

  • JohnH

    LOL ballsy.

  • KA

    I’d like to think that I don’t have many regrets, but as a neighbor who spoke out in favor of Dacha in various venues including at our ANC meeting – if I had it to do over I would have kept my mouth shut. They are terrible neighbors. The plants they planted to make it green along Q St are so over grown that whether its them or the people forming the lines to get into the bar, it’s nearly impossible to walk down that sidewalk comfortably. All the talk about renovating the inside of the Chinese restaurant to turn that into a sit-down restaurant looks to have gone down the drain when they realized their little coffee/bagel shop would be lucrative enough. Promises to continue to be good stewards for the neighborhood and utilize their convening powers to help bring folks together… yeah, that lasted until they got their permits and licenses. And now they want to expand their hours? I guess perhaps rather than rant on PoP that I might just need to take another trip to our ANC meeting and voice these concerns and regrets to my ANC. Very happy to do that.

    • Shawnnnnnn

      I have not heard the best of things about the owners of Dacha, but I really have to take a moment to address some of these nonsense points you’ve made. There is line at Dacha because they are actually enforcing their occupancy requirements, per the request of their neighbors and as part of their requirements under the law. And when I have walked by where there is a line, it seems incredibly orderly and they put up ropes to try to separate that from passersby. There has always been plenty of room on what is already a fairly narrow sidewalk. And of course there is always the option to simply walk on the south side of the street, which is what most of us in the neighborhood do if we want to avoid the tight sidewalk.

      Dacha should probably get to make its own decision on whether to invest in an indoor restaurant versus a bakery. I’m not sure why that is offensive to anyone really.

      I don’t even understand your point about being good stewards of the neighborhood. It really just sounds like you’re not happy that you can’t enjoy the space so you’re going to crap on it. That’s fine, but at least be honest about it.

      • KA

        Nonsense to you, completely salient to me. See you at the next ANC meeting.

    • Q-Street

      Yeah, it’s been like dealing with two Donald Trumps; right down to building a wall that they say will fix everything.

  • Anon3

    Wow – operating till 2 and 3 am every night? This is smack in the middle of a residential area, not downtown or off a college campus – why would anyone in the community support this petition? Whenever you walk by, the place already smells of stale beer, like a frat party…I used to think this was a cool concept, but not so much anymore. These proposed hours are ridiculous. I live in shaw, and thankfully, a few blocks away, not next door.

    • Tsar of Truxton

      It is on 7th Street, which is not “smack in the middle of a residential area.” 7th Street is a commercial street with many businesses, including bars and restaurants. I could care less if they expand their hours or don’t, but impact is on a small number of houses that are immediately next door, and this is a city after all.

      • Rich

        There’s an apartment building across the street and plenty of houses nearby. They’ve continually pushed limits. I don’t see any reason to be sympathetic to Dacha.

        • textdoc

          Agreed.

      • Q-Street

        Across 7th Street – Residential condos. Across Q Street – Single family homes and apartments. Across the Alley behind them – Single family homes. Dacha is surrounded by residential.
        .
        Cities have noise, but hundreds of people drinking outside your house isn’t normal city noise. When you have significant population density the stakes are just that much higher for appropriate laws to protect from this kind of thing. ABRA has the “appropriateness standards” codified in DC law, but they completely ignored it when they ‘punished’ Dacha by tearing up their agreement with the neighborhood and doubling their capacity.

  • shawny

    Word from Dacha
    “……
    We are required to apply for change of hours for the license, but that does not mean the hours for the outside component of our operations will change.

    The indoor component, which had no hours of operations previously, gets customary hours that we agreed upon in the last neighborhood agreement. The outdoor component – sidewalk cafe – will have exactly the same hours as it has now. This will be stipulated in the license when it is issued. It would be impractical (if not impossible) for us to apply for change of hours for the outdoor component because that would violate our agreement with the neighborhood…..”

    • KA

      Why does a coffee shop need to be open until 3AM and be serving alcohol at all? Where are those patrons going to consume that alcohol? This just smacks of another excuse and the Dacha owners trying to find loop holes to improve their bottom line. And all of this at the expense of the relationships with their neighbors who they’ve claimed they care so much about. Shame on them.

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