• also anon

    People are so ridiculous. If you want your very own parking spot that you have a legal claim to buy or rent a house/condo/apartment with your own spot.

    • GBinCH

      Exactly. I got tired of looking for street parking every night. I have to drive for work and it could be a real nightmare finding things near me if I got home. So when I bought a condo, I made sure that it had parking. I saw many great places, but didn’t go for them without parking.
      While I get the frustration of spending so much time digging out a spot only to have someone else take it, you don’t own the road. This person deserves to be ashamed of themselves, much more than the person who parked their car.

    • Brentwood, DC

      No one in my family understood why I put an offer on a house that had a cracked foundation just because it had a garage. (I did a fair bit of research on cost to repair the foundation, and had all the paperwork in place to get an FHA-203K mortgage, in order to have the foundation fixed. Alas, the seller went with a cash offer from a flipper.) After years in a condo in arlington that had fewer parking spaces than units (function of the era it was built), my requirements were off street parking + washer/dryer hookups.

      (Ironically, I got neither of those things in the house I did buy. I eventually had the hook-ups installed, but nothing is going to fix the fact that I live on a hill, and my back yard is about 4 feet below street level.)

    • JohnH

      I saw a spot in Georgetown roped off – yes, spend millions on a row house in Georgetown that doesn’t have a parking spot and expect to own your spot out front. Cool.

  • dat

    This note seems more un-neighborly to me than the act itself. While I see both sides of the its-my-spot-because-i-dug-it-out-even-though-its-on-a-public-street argument, unless this person was parked in a garage before, there’s some other spot somewhere else that they dug out (to get their car out) that is now vacant.

  • petworther

    Don’t move your car if you don’t want to dig out another spot.

    • HH

      ^THIS is the only valid answer ever to this “debate”!

      HH, DC resident and decrepit car owner since 1987

  • Up,Sure!

    The myriad ways we mistreat one another over parking spaces feels like the ultimate advertisement for Google/Urber/Tesla’s vision for self driving cars.

    • anon

      that raises a critical question — who’s going to dig those cars out?

      • anon

        They will dig themselves out, naturally.

  • Formerly ParkViewRes

    Wow. DC needs to take a collective deep breath. It snowed…A LOT…things will get back to normal. It will all be okay.

    • Anonymous

      Part and parcel of the entitlement mentality that runs rampant in this town. You’re not winning unless you’re f#cking someone else over. Usually it’s the American people who get screwed over, but no surprise at all that it also extends to barely acknowledged “neighbors.”

      • Provocateur

        The American people are getting screwed up? Vote Trump!

  • KenyonDweller

    You did not dig out a parking spot. You dug out your car so that you could drive it. That doesn’t entitle you to put your car back on the same piece of asphalt when you’re done.

    • NotYourSpot

      THIS +1000

    • Smilla

      When trash removal resumes, I hope the city removes the cones, chairs and other junk that people are using to illegally save spots at the same time.

      • TJ

        The sanitation workers won’t do that. It is up to you to remove garbage people leave in parking zones along the streets.

        • Marty

          I think I recall in 2010 being told that crews were going to start picking up anything on the street that was in the parking lane.

  • Dadric

    Chrvy Chase…of course. I’ve never seen such obnoxiously entitled people in my life. Lots of us have dug out cars out only to have the spot taken by someone else. Grow up. You don’t own a spot just because you happened to be parked there during a snowstorm.

  • That Man A

    question to those that feel the same way
    what should i tell my mother who does not live in the neighborhood to do when she wants to come visit after a snow storm?
    she clearly didnt dig out any spots… is she not allowed to park in any of the open spaces then?

    • Chevy Chase Resident

      Unless its during the day when people are at work and cars are gone until the evening time and your mother will be gone by then… You bring your shovel outside and dig her spot so that she can park in.
      “That Was Easy”.

      • SydneyP

        Chevy Chase Residents have RULES, see? They makes them up as they see fit. Doing otherwise is Too. Hard.

        Point to Dadric.

  • Anon

    Clenchometer rating: 7 – “clenched tight”

  • Woodridge Resident

    I 100% agree with person from Chevy Chase (if the spot was marked by chair or cone etc. and neighbor moved it). If you live on that block, park in the space that YOU DUG out. If everyone parks in “their” spot (for 2 or 3 days after the snow storm) then it wont be any problem. Otherwise, you are indeed a #BadNeighbor and I also find it disrespectful.

    • Anon

      See comment directly above.

    • Dadric

      If you don’t want to lose a spot, don’t move your car. Incidentally, the snow stopped on Sunday. It’s now Thursday. Get over it.

      • Woodridge Resident

        I’ve been coming and going as I please on my block. I mark “my spot” with a chair, and when I return I move the chair and park back in “my spot”. That’s been going on up until yesterday. Didn’t have ONE PROBLEM. I never do.

        • anon

          Yeah but the problem is that people who don’t live on your block are also entitled to park there for the designated amount of time allowed. You can’t tell other people who need to come into your neighborhood for whatever reason (perhaps a caretaker for an elderly neighbor, or as we saw in another thread, a plumber coming to fix a leak) that they can’t park because they didn’t dig out a spot. It isn’t “your” spot even if you put a chair in it.

        • Kevin

          You are a “bad neighbor” even if your neighbors won’t say it to your face. I wouldn’t even think twice about flinging your chair to the side even if I was just walking by (and, in fact, I have done that twice this week in my neighborhood).

          Why don’t you people get it? IT’S NOT YOUR SPACE. The law is clear on this, as is common sense.

          • figby

            And why are only people with virtuous intent allowed to park? Only caretakers of the elderly and moms? I am coming to your neighborhood to buy drugs and a gun and will totally take that space.

          • eggs

            Baaahahahaha @figby sorry I just died laughing.

    • also anon

      “If everyone parks in “their” spot”
      It’s a public street. No one owns a spot on a it.

    • We had to go back to work. Our nanny came and parked. We drove away, and another space opened up. The circle of life continues.

  • derp derp

    If you want a designated spot, pay for it. If you don’t want to pay then shut up.

    • Twerp

      You obviously didn’t grow up in a city and definitely not DC lol. smh
      Well, just don’t take anyones marked spot. That’s my advice to you sir.

      • SydneyP

        (Twerp writes from Davao City, Philippines. )

        • Twerp

          Negative SydneyP! I’m from Petworth, DC!

          • Anonemuss

            Oh great, you’re one of the fools in my neighborhood who has been dragging all their crap into the street. Yea, that is public property, NOT YOURS.

          • Anonemuss

            And you should also be fined for littering for leaving said crap all in the street.

      • derp derp

        it’s not legally your spot, get over yourself

        • Twerp

          Legally you are correct sir. But this is about principle.

          • derp derp

            If you want to keep the spot then leave your car there and walk/cab/bus/metro to wherever you need to go. It sounds like you grew up in the city based on your previous post, so I would think you would be very familiar with alternative ways to get around the city. Once you leave your spot you’re giving it up, since again, it’s not legally yours.

          • Kevin

            You are wrong on principle, too.

          • DEDS

            For a lot of people there is no alternate way of getting to work from the city, aside from a $600 Uber ride. I’d say the majority of jobs in the DC area aren’t public transit accessible.

          • derp derp

            Then take your car to work, but don’t be mad that you were gone for 9 hours and someone else parks in your self proclaimed spot while you were gone.

  • skj84

    This is like the third post i’ve seen today about entitled a-holes leaving notes about taking spots or not shoveling. People need to chill the eff out. Is the snow making people even more persnickety than usual?

    • Anonemuss

      You’re just realizing this? People have been acting nutty since about 12 hours after it stopped snowing and people wanted to resume normal lives. It’s all about me me me me me.

      • figby

        Earlier than that. In the nutty run-up to the storm people showed who they were by hoarding food and blocking other shoppers at the supermarket.

    • This person probably paid someone to dig out “their” spot to begin with. I wonder how “the people” who dug it out feel about being used as note bait.

  • MtP

    I’m reposting this here from another thread b/c I feel very strongly about this. I consider myself an urbanist who is generally pro-transit, anti-parking, etc., but have no problem with the dibs calling during a storm. I am from Chicago, and it is simply routine practice there, and is respected. HOWEVER, there has to be a time limit. In my head, three days after the snow stops falling is reasonable (this past Tuesday in this case). This rewards you for your hard work, and allows you to come and go when running errands and whatnot. You should NOT be able to reserve your spot until all the snow melts, which it appears some people are trying to do this time. You can’t hijack the few open spaces in your neighborhood for weeks on end.

    • Twerp

      1 100% agree with this ^^^^^^^!

    • NorthbyNE

      This practice is absurd whether you’re in DC, Chicago, or Baltimore. You dug out your car so you could go somewhere. Once you got there, did you dig out a new spot to park? No, you parked in an open spot that someone else vacated. If everyone had the same mentality as you, there would not be anywhere for people to park on the street in the wake of a snowstorm, making it even more difficult to resume to normal. The only reason street parking works is because we share the resources.

      • That Man A

        this is my point haha
        if you are only allowed to park your car in the one spot you dug out nobody would be able to park anywhere in the city besides the spot the dug out
        Faulty logic imo

        • Seriously. Imagine applying this idiotic logic to any other scenario that mildly inconveniences you.

        • navyard

          It is not possible for people to consider what happens to anybody else. We are all too busy thinking only of ourselves.

    • Kevin

      Don’t care that you “feel strongly” about it. You’re wrong. Legally and morally.

      • MtP

        Great comment, thanks Kev

      • HaileUnlikely

        The legal part is clear enough. I’m not clear on how it came about that you get to be the judge of who is right and who is wrong morally.

  • fs20005

    I hate people like this with a passion. Someone once left me a horrible note about being a “piece of sh*t” for letting my bumper stick out a little past the parking sign. Mind you, it wasnt blocking anything, wasnt hitting any cars, it wasnt near any stop signs or blocking visibility. They just felt it was their responsibility to give me a piece of their mind. If little nuances like this make you this angry, you need help.

  • Anonemuss

    Someone is off their meds again….

  • andie302

    Ugh – everyone is so testy! I wasn’t in town for the snowstorm, and wasn’t traveling with a snow shovel, so when I got back in town I had to drive around about an 8 block radius from my house to find a spot (about 7 more blocks than usual). I don’t know whether where I parked was dug out by someone else or the city (or not at all…which was possible…because I haven’t tried to get out yet). The point being – this might not be your neighbor – this might’ve been someone that lived 12 blocks away and drove around for 45 minutes before coming to the realization that the only option was going to be “your” spot. Stop being so entitled, and if you want to keep your spot don’t move your car. If it was important enough to move your car (something I won’t be doing until the show melts), then be prepared to have to search for parking. It.is.a.city!

    • HaileUnlikely

      I think you’re being slightly disingenuous with the “this is a city” argument. This is a low-density residential neighborhood, and in any other context except scolding the residents that they should expect this because “this is a city,” most people on here speak of Chevy Chase as if it is the burbs.

  • Dan

    I own this street.


    Get off my lawn.

    • That MAn A

      I like

  • Marty

    #1 reason why we took down a tree a few years ago and paved over some grass in the back of our property. Now, when we can access the alley (which is another story) we have 2x car parking.

  • Llama

    I dug out my car from the street, but did not throw items in the space to “save the space”. It took me a long time to dig out the spot, but it doesn’t mean it’s my spot forever now. So ridiculous. There’s a part of me that just wants to take the chairs people have been placing marking their spot home with me as it looks like they are throwing it to the curb for free and then park a car in the spot. Granted, it would probably be keyed or something. Also had a neighbor in the area tell me “I don’t know why you’re walking across the street to put the snow in the big pile of snow when you could just throw the snow back into the street as the street will melt if after cars run over it”. I think that sums up the common sense around here when dealing with snow.

    • anon

      yeah, i saw so many people digging out their cars, making huge piles of snow in a street that was already cleared – this is a thing people do?

      • navyard

        On high-density streets, there is no where else to put it sometimes. I tried to time it so I could push most of the snow out into the street when plow came through, but in reality that just moved it to the end of the block where they built a berg and someone else was inconvenienced.
        What does one do in high-density areas?

  • HaileUnlikely

    I think an underlying issue that everybody here is ignoring is that regardless of the law, social norms in different places are different. In some places, everybody respects the spaces that other people dug out and there is no need to put anything in the space to “save” it. In other places it is completely normal and accepted by all that you can put a note or a cone or a lawn chair in the space that you dug out to indicate that you dug it out and you’re coming back. In other places there is no notion that you should get first dibs on the space you dug out.
    The thing is, the proportion of transplants in DC is much much greater than that in most places that those of those who are now here left to come here. Thus, lots of people have notions that they brought with them from elsewhere that “everybody does it this way” or “everybody does it that way” or “everybody does it the other way.” And they are all being sincere in their conviction, but failing to realize that other people from elsewhere handle the same situation in a different way. That creates conflict, and it’s not because one of the parties is unambiguously “right” and the other is unambiguously “wrong.” It’s a whole lot more complicated than that.

    • ambiguous duo

      it is unambiguous, and quite simple. it is not your street and you can’t block it off to reserve a parking spot. and that is the case whether you think “everybody” is doing it or not.

      • HaileUnlikely

        There is no indication that this person made any attempt to block off the space, though that really is not the point.. What we have in DC with so many people coming from so many different places with such different sets of expectations and life experiences, different people expect different things. There are lots of things that are perfectly legal yet generally frowned upon. In some places, parking in a space that somebody else put the effort into clearing out is one of those things. In other places, that is not one of those things. Different people, different expectations.

      • HaileUnlikely

        More to the point, the note didn’t accuse anybody of doing anything illegal, the note accused somebody of being a bad neighbor. Unless you believe that there is a universal definition of what is a good neighbor, this is as clear an illustration of different people having different expectations as I can possibly think of.

      • petworthdweller

        I will give you my address PLEASE come park in my spot i dug out and i promise you that you will think what you did was wrong

    • eggs

      Great point!

  • petworthdweller

    The neighborly thing to do is respect your neighbor that dug the space out and either dig your own or go without
    Fact is IF you park in the space i bussed my behind digging out tou will either have damage to your car or your a$$ if i am unable to park there.
    Take it or leave it

    • Anon X

      I find this highly amusing. I assume you are concerned about both property crime and violent crime in Petworth? Yet you will gleefully commit one or both over a parking spot? You are scum. You are no better than stick up boys and gang bangers. You should be living in a cave in a desert somewhere far away from civilization.

  • Reality

    At this point it’s late enough to stop blaming people over parking. I’m sure this person dug out a different spot, that was taken by someone else whose spot was taken, by someone else, etc etc etc

  • Michael Williams

    For the folks who think spending hours clearing a spot and not throwing snow into the street is not a big deal and believe it appropriate to disrespect someone’s hard work by throwing their markers into the street please come over to Monroe between 18th and 20th and please take those same actions. I promise that your comment page super powers will surely be tested. Spoiler Alert – you will not win!!!

  • NH Ave Hiker

    Hopefully I don’t get such a note on my car…I dug it out fair and square but have been away for work all week and am coming back tonight.

  • xminustdc

    Ok, so if you are parked on the street during a snow storm and you dig your car out, that is your spot? What happens if it snows heavily again while you’re out and your once cleaned out spot that you “own” is covered in snow? Should you have to dig it out again or are you free to find a spot that maybe has no snow on it? How do you know if another spot has no snow on it because someone dug it out or if it was just some miracle of nature that there’s no snow on pavement in that one spot? THIS IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED.

    What it comes down to is: you don’t own the spot. Get over it. It’s part of living in a city and not paying for parking.


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