• JD in DC

    Was walking by Randolph and Arkansas when this was going down. Huge police response. Officers on foot and in (many) cars. One officer on foot was good enough to direct us toward a safer place as she ran to respond.

  • Anonymous

    Did any of them bother getting out of their cars?

    • Another anonymous

      It almost seemed like you bothered to look at the photo. I wonder what all of those folks with blue shirts are doing at the scene? Time for a ho-down! Oh, wait, no. Sorry about that. They might be cops responding to an incident… My bad

      • Anonymous

        Granted, he didn’t look at the picture, but you can’t blame someone for asking that question. It further illustrates the police reputation. This corner is and always has been a trouble spot. There was a domestic violence situation here several weeks ago. Probably same people/family. Before I give props to the cops, I want to see some arrests and other measures to ensure this doesn’t happen again.

        • “you can’t blame someone for asking”
          Well when there’s photographic evidence that answers the exact question, yes, you can.

          • Kam

            LMAO! Well there is that.

  • 14th and Randolph

    Did any of them bother getting our of their cars?

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of this respond-only mentality. That’s great! They showed up! Where is the policing and enforcement on the front end? Muriel Bowser can’t control crime in her own ward and now wants to be mayor? She is soft on crime and it has me re-thinking my vote for her.

    • Anon

      David… is that you??

      • Anonymous

        Not Catania, but I may be voting for him. I live on Randolph and there is ALWAYS something happening at this one apartment building. And now they want to turn the Old Jewish Home into affordable housing? We have enough problems.

      • Russ

        I wouldn’t call Muriel Bowser soft on crime. Her office has always been very responsive to the concerns expressed by my neighbors and myself. I think that she is dealing with the same issues we are all dealing with… Mismanagement by our current mayor as well as the lack of the needed resources for our police to do their job. I expect that to change once she is elected. Crime has gotten worse lately, but I don’t look at Ms Bowser as the problem, I view her as the solution.

        • Anonymous

          Can you explain why you think she is the solution? I don’t think she’s the problem either, but I don’t think I’ve heard anything from her that sets her apart from anyone else who wants (or wanted) the mayor’s job. I guess I’m asking why you expect “that to change once she is elected”.

        • MIke

          Bowser doesn’t care until a camera is on her or a reporter is asking questions. I live in Ward 4 and Bowser’s inattentiveness is known by our neighborhood all too well.

          • brightwooder


          • brightwoodess


  • Hope everyone is okay! Saw all the commotion and was wondering what was going on.

  • Anonymous

    Did the caller have to wait just to get a 911 Operator? Put on hold? That’s unbelievable.

    • anon

      Well, it’s probably safe to assume 911 was receiving multiple calls about the same incident and police didn’t respond to the OP’s call in 30 seconds, but to someone else’s call who reported it before OP.

  • OP

    there have definitely been a number of domestic disputes/police responses at this intersection, primarily stemming from the apt building on the NW corner. this fight, however, originated at a BBQ in the alley behind randolph b/n 13th & 14th. 2 guys walked out of the alley and N on 13th trash talking, and apparently the whole BBQ followed them out to watch/egg them on. they started throwing punches in the middle of the intersection, blocking traffic, and then the whole crowd jumped in. some were trying to break up the fight, but a lot of them were also fighting. i didn’t see any weapons. once i got a hold of a 911 operator, the police response was incredibly fast- less than a minute before i heard sirens. another neighbor saw 2-3 people in the back of police cars.

    • Anonymous

      a big crowd is still gathered near this corner, but on Randolph St. on the south side (so across the street from the apt. building).

    • Anonymous

      Where was the BBQ? In the alley to the south of Randolph or to the north? In the backyard of a house that’s on Randolph or on Quincy/Shepherd? One of the usual problem houses?

      • OP

        south of randolph. if you walk up the alley south of randolph from the entrance on the west side of 13th, it appeared to be in the backyard of a house on randolph, maybe 6 houses in? i didn’t walk all the way up to the BBQ, but had walked up the alley about 4 houses in earlier to see why there were dogs barking constantly. i think they were barking at all the people going to/from the BBQ.

    • quincy dude

      i walk or jog through this intersection on a daily basis and have never once observed any problems. seems like a random incident, not a systemic problem.

      • OP

        there are semi-regular police responses at this intersection (especially that apt building), especially in the summer. i agree with you though that this particular incident was random.

  • Labitch James

    All these stupid comments about wether or not the officers got out their cars are really dumb. None you are police officers nor do you have a full understanding of the job or the MPD as a dept., I don’t think you know DC laws. If you did you did then you would know that there a limit to what we can do without violating someone’s rights which leads to complaints and law suits. Listen you want to stop being victimized pay attention to your surroundings, stop leaving valuables in plain view of your vehicles, go to your psa meetings express your concerns to the people that can make the changes ( not posting these silly comments on blog sites that does nothing to help your cause), and stop expecting the police to be everywhere and to do everything your afraid to do. It’s a major metropolitan city people wake up and get real!

    • caballero

      I agree. If you want your block to be safe, be vigilant and communicate with the police. It has worked for me, and it will work for anyone who makes the effort. The police cannot respond to things they are not aware of……it is the citizen’s job to let them know about trouble spots. It’s not hard, people.

    • dcd

      “stop expecting the police to be everywhere and to do everything your afraid to do.”
      This response from an erstwhile police officer really doesn’t improve opinions about law enforcement. I get that there is a community component to law enforcement. But isn’t the whole point of the police to perform functions that ordinary citizens cannot do, or should not be expected to do? The notion that MPD is doing everything humanly possible to combat crime, and anything more would “violate someone’s rights and lead to law suits” just doesn’t square with what many of us see every day – police officers unwilling to leave their air-conditioned cruisers and interact with the public unless a 911 call comes in – and sometimes not even then. The job of the police is not just to respond with an overwhelming presence when an incident occurs (which, to give credit where credit is due, seems to have happened here). It is also to act in a way that limits the likelihood of such incidents, as well as other street crime in general. It’s in this area that MPD appears to be lacking, and a response of “you [the community] should be doing more – don’t expect us to” really grates on people.

    • Anonymous

      I am OFFENDED by this response and it clearly illustrates the problem many residents face when dealing with the police. They BLAME the victims. Claim WE aren’t doing enough. Im sorry, our tax dollars pay your salary. This attitude is again very clear if you have ever been a victim of a crime. They make you feel like it is your fault and then do NOTHING. I hope some of our elected officials are monitoring this page. I absolutely plan to send along this “anonymous police officer’s” comment. For shame!

      • Gee Willikers! You’re assuming this is a cop by parsing a few words from an anonymous internet poster. There are no details here which verify that it in fact is a cop, and certainly not enough that any “elected official monitoring the page” (LOL, seriously?) could take action on. Still, ignoring all that, yes, citizens should do more, and stop expecting cops to be everywhere every single time a crime is reported. You can’t just sit a cop on the corner of a “troubled block” 24/7 waiting for a fight to potentially break out at a BBQ. As a fellow tax-payer myself, this would be an extreme waste of my contribution.

      • dunning-kruger

        I don’t know why you assume it is a cop, sounds more like someone who understands better how neighborhoods transform (hint: it is not police action).

        Also, as a lifetime DC resident who grew up in bad and then transitional neighborhoods I can tell you that the way to gentrify a neighborhood isn’t to call the cops on your neighbors and get everyone arrested, first off it won’t work most crimes you would report a neighbor for won’t result in prison time, secondly why can’t you handle things in a neighborly fashion?

        The drug dealer on my parents block still lives there, he just stopped selling drugs many many years ago. My dad used to pick up most trash he walked past while walking our dog (people are more likely to litter if there is already litter), on my current block one neighbor mows practically the whole block and got our block’s dealer to police his clients a bit better.

        The half a million you spent for a house in DC is NOTHING. Half a million gets you into a neighborhood that is a work in progress, if you could afford to live in a fully gentrified neighborhood you probably would, thank your neighbors, you know, the ones you want the police to arrest on your word alone for keeping housing prices reasonable in your area so you can live close to metro and retail.

        Police can not fix your neighborhood for you, they will help but it is mostly up to you and your neighbors, ask ANY longtime resident of a transitional then gentrified neighborhood. Funny thing is I don’t even like cops but it isn’t because they don’t arrest the people I don’t like.

        • dcd

          Ms. James represents that she’s a law enforcement officer: “If you did you did then you would know that there a limit to what we can do without violating someone’s rights which leads to complaints and law suits. ”
          Not saying that she really is, but she appears to claim she is.

        • Anonymous

          I agree that the police can’t be everywhere, but police presence definitely helps. I live near the Park View playground. It used to be very sketchy until the summer a few years ago when the police stationed a car there and started patrolling the neighborhood on foot. Then things got much better. And things getting better made the park more attractive to families, which made it less attractive to the people who were up to no good.

    • JR

      And I have a suggestion for you: get out of your car and interact with people.

  • Anonymous

    was there. bunch of drunks surrounding the scene…can only guess the brawl was stemmed from a drunk disagreement.

    • OP

      completely agree.


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