Petition Launched to Block 7-11 from coming to 14th and Florida Ave, NW

Solea building at 14th and Florida Ave, NW

7-11 fatigue continues – from a petition:

“Stay Away from 14th St / Florida Ave! [in the Solea building]

We are a community, we are a neighborhood, we are families and friends. We care about how our neighbors treat each other, how the streetscape is maintained and we care to improve our surroundings.

We are happily satisfied with the neighborhood retail services today such as: Streets, Smucker Farms, Yes Organic, CVS and TraderJoes, yet we are very concerned about 7/11 entering our neighborhood. We believe that 7/11 will diminish and detract from our neighborhood, nor do we see it adding any value to our lives. We feel that, at best, 7/11 will just cannibalize existing businesses, assuming anyone was to patronize the establishment. Therefore, this location is not only unsatisfactory to the neighbors, but it is also a bad investment for 7/11. A bad investment for 7/11 is also a bad bet for the landlord jeopardizing their investment too. No one wins in this scenario.

If you care about the future of our neighborhood and don’t want to see a 7/11, or worse, a failed 7/11 take up a prominent corner, then please object by endorsing this petition.”

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  • Those taquitos, though…

  • Jesus. Poorly reasoned, to say the least.

    At least it’s comforting to know that upper NW doesn’t have an exclusive strangle-hold on NIMBYs. I despise them [NIMBYs, not 7-11, which I neither like nor dislike] up here and, I presume, I despise them just as much down at 14th and U.

  • This is fantastic: “we are very concerned about 7/11 entering our neighborhood.” Classic DC NIMBY, I love it. It’s almost like they cut and pasted from the Cleveland Park listserv.

  • Following-up,

    “it is also a bad investment for 7/11”

    It’s comical to see a local resident looking out for 7-11’s bottom line. I’m sure their concern is genuine and not motivated by anything other than wanting to see 7-11 avoid making unsound use of shareholder funds…

    How about you stick to your business and I’ll stick to mine? We’d all be much better off if more people adopted this mantra.

    • Yea, they lost me on that one. If 7-11 is doomed to fail, why bother even petitioning. Just let it open and let it fail.

    • Honestly, I suspect it’s a great investment for 7/11 and I’m sure they agree. 7/11 doesn’t just open a store, or allow a franchisee to do so, just anywhere. They’ll have done their due diligence and won’t consider this a gamble..
      I’d love to know how much the one on U Street pulls in a year. 7/11s are everyone because they’re margins low (bulk buying across all stores) and their profits high. Appealing to them on the grounds of making a bad investment seems like a poor argument to me.

  • I really truly believe despising 7-11 is a DC phenomenon. It’s so bizarre. It’s a freaking convenience store!

    • People feel it attracts a certain element and trash. I don’t tend to agree, but a late night convenience store would probably do well so close to u st.

      • I dunno, the one on 14th street in Columbia Heights certainly attracts both.

        • The Barracks Row 7/11 is a mess. Always has pan handlers, some very aggressive. It’s the only spot on the block with these problems.

          • But the Barracks row 7/11 is historically significant. I see the same panhandlers there as when I first started working at the Navy Yard in ’88!

          • EckingtonDoodle

            Word and +1000 to that Jammin Jimmy.

            to others….I don’t think it is NIMBYism as much as a concern for actually having a neighborhood shops that contribute in positive ways to the neighborhood. I’d much rather have a mom and pop store or a local coffee shop that will build roots. For example, if Big Bear was replaced by a 7/11, How would that corner look? How would the park across the street look? A 7/11 would not add to the community in ways that Big Bear has.

          • penguins9966

            +1000 on the Barracks Row disaster 7/11. Im all about having convenience stores, but we already have a CVS up the block (not that its that much better) and now of course, were getting another o7/11 up on Penn Ave. cause its totally needed….ugh

          • This is surely more to do with DC than just being a 7/11 phenomenon. I used to live in Clarendon and the only thing 7/11 attracts there late at night is drunk bros.

        • saf

          As does the one at Georgia and Shepherd

      • There is already a 7-11 on U Street next to U Street Music Hall/across from Solly’s. It is not a good place.

      • There’s already a 7-11 on U Street. At the corner of 11th and U, right? or is it 12th? Just down from U St Music Hall. I think the NIMBY Petition is stupid, but I’m surprised someone wants to open another 7-11 in the area.

      • Ever walk by the 7-11 on Mt. Pleasant street? It more or less lacks the edgier criminal element of its 14th + Columbia counterpart, but it’s nasty enough to make you want to cross the street to avoid it. Trash tumbleweeds abound and drunk men loiter about the sidewalk outside (playing chess, wrestling in jest, passed out…) day and night. While this petition is poorly reasoned and reeks of NIMBYism, I don’t blame the residents of Solea. The somewhat constant police presence at Mt. P and Kenyon Streets and giant “NO LOITERING/PROHIBIDO HOLGAZANEAR” sign are laughable deterrents to those who treat that stretch of sidewalk as their outdoor lounge. I wouldn’t want to step over drunks or taquito wrappers and smell human urine when entering/leaving my home, either.

        • PDleftMtP

          The people outside the 7-11 would not vaporize if the 7-11 weren’t there. They’d be…actually, pretty much where they are now, along the paint store fence, in the little mini-park next to the 7-11, or in Lamont Park.

    • that is what I thought. 7-11? what is so bad about 7-11? I could see how they would want other stores maybe but I’m surprised they are fighting it. There are several in my neighborhood and I do stop in from time to time.

      • The loitering/littering habits of people who patronize a 7-Eleven in neighborhoods like Dupont Circle are not the same as those of people who patronize 7-Elevens in neighborhoods like Petworth.

        • Petworth resident here and you betcha, 7-11 to-go boxes are basically part of the flora around here. They reproduce faster than the weeds here. I’ll sign the petition early and often.

      • The U Street 7-11 is usually a mess – littering, panhandling. Late at night, there’s lots of drunk and high kids buying crappy food or pulling cash out of the ATM.

        That said, I think there’s a cop at that 7-11 nearly 24/7. Sometimes the Segway cops will drive their Segway straight through the 7-11 doors! 😮

        • It’s completely bizarre to me that people would suggest that young people being drunk on U Street is confined to the area around the 7-11.

    • I mean from what I’ve read on here it’s “trash” “litter” etc which I think is code for not liking the type of person that “loiters” in front of the store. It’s ridiculous. Unrelated: I love their coffee, I don’t care what anyone says!

      • ‘it’s “trash” “litter” etc which I think is code for not liking the type of person that “loiters” in front of the store.’
        Sometimes (most of the time?) an objection to litter is an objection to litter. My guess is that you don’t live in a neighborhood that already has a surfeit of litter.

        • Oh I live in CH near 14th. Near a 7-11 actually!

          • And you still think a 7-11 in an asset to a rapidly improving neighborhood? Your tolerance for both litter and the loiterers far exceeds mine.
            For better or worse, loitering is legal in DC. So, residents are left to protest the establishments that promote loitering, even if they would, in a vacuum, be assets to the community.

          • Yeah, I do actually. 7-11s are called convenience stores for a reason. And correct, people can protest whatever they wish!

          • I suspect a 7-Eleven is marginally better to have in one’s neighborhood than a generic bodega (as far as litter generation/cleanup is concerned)… but only marginally.

          • Bodegas are awesome. Leave Bodegas alone. I wish we had more bodegas in this city.

          • Um — I take it you don’t live near the bodega-heavy portions of Georgia Avenue in southern Petworth or Park View?

          • I live above that 7-11. I don’t think you truly appreciate the amount of litter created by the patrons of that store. The people loitering by the metro and in front of Unity are the people patronizing that store, and then throwing their taquito wrappers on the street instead of the trash can that is literally 10ft in front of them. I completely and whole heartedly understand why someone wouldn’t want a 7-11 near them. And comparing it, even remotely to the Dupont 7-11 (which I never noticed until someone on here pointed it out) is just ridiculous.

        • textdoc, you are crushing it today!

      • Agreed. We all know what this petition wants. It is not the cheap food and other necessities–they don’t like the kind of people who shop at 7-11.

  • “it is also a bad investment for 7/11”

    Thank you for this insight! 7/11 corporate is reassessing the wisdom of this location because of your analysis.

  • Is there a petition where we can ask these people to shut the hell up?

  • I think the petition writer’s real concern is that people WILL patronize the 7-11… and loiter in front of it, and leave wing boxes and chip bags lying around. Why should this location be any different from any other, after all?

    • Sorry you thought you were buying in a neighborhood that would be too good for a 7-11. Guess you were wrong. You’re just a normal person like the rest of us. Did you have delusions of being Lord Grantham? Sucks… you arent.

  • I get it. Where there is 7-11, traditionally in DC, there will be obnoxious loitering/panhandling all the damn time and a good amount of chip bags/slurpee cups/candy wrappers/general convenience store trash EVERYWHERE. So it’s not really 7-11’s fault but if you’ve hit up any of the ones in NE anyways then you know what’s up.

    • I’m sorry, but this neighborhood is barely past the time when every corner and street was like that. The Solea itself is hideous…an eyesore. A 7-11 (or Bodega!) would be an improvement.

      • It’s a well-known fact in the architectural community that litter and loitering only helps to improve the appearance of a poorly-designed and/or placed construction.

  • As a 14th Street Resident I wholly support a 7-11 down there and would give it lots of business.

  • This is so classist and elitist… get over yourselves. It’s a 7-11, it’s so not that serious.

    • Right. Like 14th an U is so upscale… Isn’t already kind of loud and trashy? How about purchasing outside of the city?

      And I’m not following the logic, it’s not a sound investment but then will cannibalize other businesses?

  • You know what would be a better fit for that space? Subway!

  • This place is gonna cannibalize the hell out of the new Whole Foods coming in down the street.

  • 1) I always get a chuckle when the rich use to create petitions that further marginalize the working class (in this case keeping out 7-11 because they presumably want a place that sells $4 gravity brewed coffee, or expensive beer, or localized produce)

    2) 14th street has a bustling permanent daytime working population and a large amount of temporary workers building buildings and such. I believe 7-11 would be used by these people on their way to/from and during working hours (which are pretty much around the clock given all the restaurants)

    3) There already is a 7-11 two blocks away. You often have to wait a long time to get things there because the lines are so long. This might ease the stress on that store and the people who own and work there. That 7-11 does have its share of pan handlers outside of it, but it is also not attached to a residential building. I bet if it was, the pan handlers would be not be there. I can’t think of one residential building in U street area where I see panhandlers in front of.

    • Before you get all classist (today’s WaPo has enough of that already, with the crazy old bat up in Brightwood spouting objectively racist things concealed as concern for his neighbors, who are on record as disagreeing…), note that it is likely many of the people mocking the NIMBYs are, themselves, objectively rich.

      The opposition does entail marginalizing lower income/”class” people, but it is not necessarily about the rich opposing the poor. It’s about one group of people not only believing they know what’s right for others, but insisting that others kowtow before them and their demands. And then they want a pat on the back for enacting change…

      • What article is this?

      • N=1: “Before you get all classist…”

        N=1: “How about you stick to your business and I’ll stick to mine? We’d all be much better off if more people adopted this mantra.”

        • My point was clear. You stated, quite overtly, in bullet point 1, that there is a class overtone to this debate. The rich oppressing the poor but through the guise of I stated that I don’t believe there should be any class discussion here in this regard. Presumably, many of those opposing the petition, a group into which both you and I belong, are objectively rich. So, at best, if it is rich people using and also rich people opposing, I fail to see how rich people can be maligned one way or another.

          • Oh come on. Its clear the “rich” homeowners here don’t want the lowlifes around that are the type of people that shop at 7-11. Its going to lower their property values.

            This is absolutely about economics and class.

          • you don’t understand me. I was hoping someone would come to their own realization of this so, but let me spell it out. When you connect the dots you see that when our society implements regulations and mechanisms for protections and greater equality, they are often me manipulated to serve the already privileged. It could be a privileged class, gender or race. I find this bigger picture issue and its dynamics far more interesting than I do this individual petition. My hope is that you (or other people) can accept this overall power dynamic and start to see other ways in which it manifests itself. But I get accused by you of classism and a brief lecture on the overall working of authority in our society, which you didn’t bother to ask if I was already aware of or not (we can grab a coffee and talk Chomsky, libertarian socialism, and activism for hours if you want) but now we just have none of that largely because you don’t understand me and try to impose your views on me instead of trying to better understand mine(as the original poster)

          • Odd logic. Would you also object if someone noted that slavery involved white people oppressing black people, on the ground that the Union Army had 2 million white soldiers?

  • 7-11 is going to “cannibalize” the other businesses? There’s not a lot of similarity between the goods at 7-11 and the goods at Smucker Farms, Yes, TJs, etc-no one’s going to skip buying their organic vegetables because they stopped by a 7-11 for some junk food. I agree that they’re dog-whistling about not wanting a certain caliber of people loitering in front of their building.

  • Oh no, it might put the CVS out of business! How terrible!

    I wish they would just be honest and say that they don’t want the homeless/otherwise sketchy people hanging around and chicken bones on the street that a 7-11 would bring.

    • I bet it’s a rather basic objection, and that is to litter. Class or race, litter is litter and it is no bueno. Remember living with roommates and having to pick up their mess? Sucks, eh? Well, this is basically the same thing. Either pick up other people’s trash or live in a world with trash. Because there will be litter trash.

  • Dumb petition but let’s not pretend that 7-11s are great businesses. Every. single. one. in DC attracts panhandlers, “doormen”, and trash including the chicken bones that have been a problem for years… just look at the number of PoPville posts about it. If I lived in this condo building, I would definitely not be pleased.

    • I see your point, but it’s not about “being pleased.” No one has an obligation to please you with their development plans. Some changes you will like. Some changes you will not. (It’s is a helpful exercise to think about why changes you don’t support success anyway. Perhaps that tells you something about your neighbors and your (mis)conceptions about what they want.)

      You are not being asked to support the store. You are not being asked to help them in any way. All that society requires of you is indifference. That, sadly, is too much for these protesters.

      • Well there is a point where “being pleased” definitely does matter, especially if I owned a condo in that building. If I were looking for a place to buy, I wouldn’t want to live above a 7-11 and I don’t think I’m unique. Anyway I don’t live there and don’t have a dog in this fight, but if I were that condo I would be changing the bylaws to prohibit food-related businesses in the space.

        • +1. I have a feeling the guy above you is not a property owner. Regardless, his advice for those who disagree with him to just be “indifferent” is childish. We’re all allowed to voice our opinions and be upset (or happy) with a new development going in our neighborhood. Does this guy (n=1) even realize he is basically telling everyone who doesn’t love 7-11 to shut up? There are legitimate concerns with 7-11s in the District of Columbia. Learn about them and while you’re at it, learn to empathize!

    • This is a gross overstatement. There is a 7-11 in Woodley Park across from the Zoo where NONE of these elements exists. How about we pretend that this aversion to 7-11 is not about the business and instead about the people that you don’t like?

      • As I was saying before, “The loitering/littering habits of people who patronize a 7-Eleven in neighborhoods like Dupont Circle [or in this case, Woodley Park] are not the same as those of people who patronize 7-Elevens in neighborhoods like Petworth.”

        • Exactly. Certain people in U street don’t like the neighbors that shop at 7/11. Thank you for admitting this, but then wouldnt the logical step be to get all of these poor people removed from the neighborhood.

          • It seems logical enough that people would want to block establishments that they perceive as (depending on what the customer base is like) generating litter.
            Personally, I think 7-Elevens are not quite as bad as bodegas — I haven’t heard so far about any D.C. 7-Elevens getting busted for selling synthetic marijuana. And I like 7-Eleven’s pizza, although I’ve mostly given up on it after seeing employees at multiple locations preparing it without gloves.

    • If you lived in this condo you should either move or try to enact a law that gets rid of all these lesser people you don’t want to live near. Don’t stop convenience stores from making a buck. You dont hate them, you really can’t stand the neighbors that like to shop in them.

  • This is so elitist and gross. Really, why do people live in the city and do this sort of crap? 7-11 has decent coffee for the price. Not everyone can spend $5 a day a Starbucks. These people need to move to Virginia.

  • Interesting economic argument. How is it that 7-11 will be so successful as to effectively puts its other competitors out of business but is also not attractive enough so that people will shop there?

  • The Solea is a condo building. The condo association collectively own the commercial space? How are decisions made? Or does the developer of the building usually keep the commercial space for themselves?

    • Depends on the exact legal structure. Generally the building will be subdivided into separate parts, either through a condominium structure (which can have a separate “unit” that is the commercial space), or through separate air rights lots, with the residential portion further subdivided into a condominium. In either case the residential portion generally will not have any ownership or direct control over the commercial portion. There will be an overarching condominium maintenance agreement or reciprocal easement agreement which will govern shared portions of the building (roof, foundation, etc) and mediate disputes between each user.

      There are probably older buildings with commercial spaces where the commercial space is part of the residential ownership entity, but that really isn’t done that much anymore.

  • I’d be all about a Wawa going up in there.

  • FWIW the 7-11 at 14th and Rhode Island doesn’t seem to cause any problems. It also doesn’t seem to prevent other establishments at the southern end of 14th street from continuing to thrive.

    • Agreed. I went there over the weekend and they had two doormen(!) and a Greeter/Berater just inside as well.

    • there is ALWAYS panhandler in front of this 7-11… at least as of last night.

      • So what? How hard is it to say “no, sorry” to someone? People talk about panhandlers like they pour urine down your shirt as you walk past them.

  • “We believe that 7/11 will diminish and detract from our neighborhood”. If the CVS already didnt do this then I’m sure 7/11 won’t.

  • I’m totally on board with this petition. The 7-11 by the Shaw metro is absolutely atrocious. There’s always crowds of people begging and yelling outside of it. Trash and loiterers literally make it difficult to even enter the buildings and there’s often some sort of commotion going on inside anyway. Going to the CVS right nearby, however, is a much more pleasant experience.

    • I walk by CVS every day with homeless people panhandling outside of it. The CVS on H Street NE was also robbed a couple months ago and the workers there are high 50% of the time. Going to CVS is a pretty sub-optimal experience for me to say the least and is on par with 7/11.

  • This is 20% about a convenience store coming into a space where something more upscale, or just plain “neater”, could have been, and 80% about the unwanted loitering and trash that happens outside of nearly every 7/11 in the District. There’s nothing wrong with residents protesting a store/company that has a history of attracting massive loitering (and the associated trash, harassment, panhandling, cigarette sellers, etc.) to a neighborhood. What’s the worst part of Mt. Pleasant Street? The worst part of 14th south of the Co Hei metro? I’d protest something like that coming into my building/block as well (I signed the petition). And for those coffee comments…there are plenty of other decent cheap coffee options within a few blocks including 2x DD, McD, Starbucks, etc.

    • Such classist BS. I use the 7-Eleven on Mt. Pleasant St. multiple times a week, and I have yet to be emotionally scarred, injured, or murdered by the various panhandlers and drunks who frequent the place. Folks who can’t handle living side by side with less affluent people who are beneath them don’t belong in a place like DC, that’s for sure.

    • I agree…if I were someone who invested in purchasing a condo in that location the last thing I would want is a business that promotes loitering, panhandling, and litter. The residents there probably do not want to have to be harassed every time they step out of their building or have to constantly make sure that their dogs don’t ingest harmful chicken bones or other trash discarded on the street when they take them on walks

  • I wouldn’t want a 7-11 near me either and don’t blame this group for trying to stop one, even if it is a pretty lame effort. I live in Tenleytown and the 7-11 there is a magnet for salty characters and crime and a generator of trash.

  • I love how people love to pile on the “This is so NIMBY” attitude- it’s like a total echo chamber here. People who are not anxious to have an obnoxious 7-11 in their hood are within their rights to file petitions, spread awareness, make arguments against it, and be upset. If you like 7-11, great. I understand economics will have a larger role in this than anyone’s opinion; however, I don’t get all the animosity for people who happen to disagree with you on a quality of life issue. Grow up and learn to understand that not everyone wants to think alike or live the same way you do!! You don’t need to ridicule them for this basic difference of opinion.

    • You’re missing the entire context of this debate.

      There are about 5 dozen establishments that I’d personally prefer over 7-11. But, you know what? It doesn’t matter what I want. I don’t have enough hubris to presume that just because I prefer other things to 7-11, other people must certainly prefer them as well.

      Those trying to prevent a business from locating somewhere and, presumably, serving a clientele are engaging in NIMBY tactics. And they deserve to be called out for it.

      One side is demanding for the right to exercise control over which businesses locate where. The other side is saying “stay out of it.” The sides are not equivalent in any way, shape or form.

      This is the same dynamic as with the Subway in Mt. Pleasant, the Spring Valley Shopping Center, practically anything in Cleveland Park, bike lines on New Mexico Avenue, etc., etc. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you’re entitled to foist your preferences upon everyone else. (And, before you object that all “they” are doing is posting a petition, realize that foisting their preferences upon everyone else is exactly the desired effect of the petition.)

      • People are allowed to voice their opinion. If they generate enough opposition, the 7-11 may fall on its face. I acknowledged in my comment above that economics will ultimately be the deciding factor over anyone’s voice opinion, yours or mine. If 7-11 thinks they can make money off this venture, they’ll likely put in a store despite the opposition. However, YOU miss the point when you think people are not allowed to actively oppose a corporate citizen, who has time and again failed to be responsible for its premises in this city. I don’t own property around this place, but I’d be beyond mad if I thought this kind of joint was opening up near me. Not sure why you get to tell me to be “indifferent” while corporate forces and those who love 7-11 get to win. That’s not how a vibrant community works. If you want people to be indifferent and apathetic, start a petition urging just that, friend.

        • Of course people can voice their opinion. I strongly, strongly encourage them to do that.

          But, you see, that’s not what this petition is about. Contrast what this says:

          “Keep 7-11 out of my neighborhood”


          “I, as a signee of this petition, affirm that I will not patronize a 7-11 located in this space.”

          There’s a difference. One is mandating an action while the other is stating a preference and letting an action be decided upon consideration of the strength (the number of signees) of the preference.

          • You’re missing the entire point. The objection is not to the 7-11 itself, or to the people who shop at a 7-11, or to poor people in general. It is that the presence of a 7-11 often leads to loitering and excess littering. As I said above, laws against loitering are unenforceable. So, the obvious alternative, if you don’t like loitering, is to object to the businesses that engender loitering. And like it or not, in certain neighborhoods, 7-11 is just such an establishment.
            Your overall point appears to be that anyone who cares enough to voice an objection about what happens in their neighborhood (or in their building) is a despicable NIMBY who should STFU and mind his or her own business because it’s not her property. Frankly, that’s ridiculous.

          • +1 to dcd.

        • I agree with everything you are saying. Have you considered that there may be many people in the neighborhood (live or work) that really want to have a 7-11 but can not organize support of it because they don’t have access to internet, work 2 jobs etc? My point behind this is that i believe that (much like the overall picture in this city and country) the people who want the 7-11 will not get a chance to voice their opinions because of existing power structures that favor wealthy educated people with free time on their hands.

          • Benzino, you make an interesting point, but what else would you suggest? That until we reach a perfect equality of resources (basically utopia), that educated people, who just happen to have more time and resources, keep silent? I get your point, but I don’t think it is an excuse to prevent others from voicing their legitimate concerns about a store that has had a lot of problems in certain parts of the city. I live near Barracks Row where we had a murder in the 7-11 not long ago, and that place remains an eye sore for the rest of the street (and we’re going to be the recipients of yet another panhandler-magnet, litter-promoting 7-11 sometime soon if they establish one over on Penn!). As I said before, these establishments are not responsible community members.

          • I would design districts and give people who work there .5 a vote and people who live there 1 vote. You can vote on survey monkey or by phone. Each time a new development or business wants to come in people get to vote. Majority rules. The districts would be small. Maybe a block or two blocks.

          • There would be no development and no place to buy anything. People have a right to protest, but you gotta balance provincialism with a wider community perspective.

        • How has 7-11 failed to be responsible for its premises throughout the city? Is it 7-11’s responsibility to make sure that its customers don’t throw trash on the ground in front of the store? In a city where loitering is not against the law, what exactly is 7-11 supposed to do about someone standing outside of one of its stores asking for money? I work downtown and pass by panhandlers every day, literally camped out in front of CVS and Starbucks. When are we going to see the campaign to make these companies better corporate citizens?

          • This is going to sound totally naïve, but how about playing classical music outside its doors to discourage loitering, which is unfortunately legal in this city? How about not selling things (i.e., chicken wings) to any of us, since we obviously cannot responsibly eat and discard them properly? How about spending a little extra in monitoring the immediate vicinity of your place and cleaning it often since you already know us DCers are filthy pigs? Actually, forget that, just don’t plant yourself in this town because the citizenry is unable to conduct itself responsibly with your products and presence. The 7-11 on Barracks Row is probably one of the last remnants of the misery that used to infuse that street (which I saw over a decade ago before all the big changes). We don’t want to encourage more of the same. We can do better.

          • “Is it 7-11’s responsibility to make sure that its customers don’t throw trash on the ground in front of the store?” Perhaps not, but it _is_ 7-Eleven’s responsibility (and the responsibility of all storefronts) to clean the public space in front of the store, all the way out to 18 inches beyond the curb.

    • I don’t think these folks should be ridiculed for a difference of opinion. I think they should be ridiculed for presenting their opinion in a ludicrous way.
      They don’t want a 7-11 because they don’t “see it adding any value to THEIR lives;” they don’t think anyone will patronize a 7-11 but are nonetheless worried that 7-11 will “cannibalize” existing businesses that are not even comparable; they are just looking out for 7-11 and the landlord because “no one will win” if a 7-11 opens?
      If you are concerned about the impact that a 7-11 will have on the cleanliness and safety of the neighborhood, how about reaching out to the corporation and/or the new owners to discuss those concerns.

  • The reasoning behind the petition is stupid, but I’d rather not see another 7-11 go in on 14th Street. The litter from the one at 14th and Columbia extends for blocks down 14th Street, event though there are literally trash cans every half of a block. I actually sort of hate with Karl Hiaasen-like passion the amount of litter generated by patrons of that 7-11. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to pick up up a bag of chips or soda bottle dropped literally 2 feet from a trash can. It’s not only ugly, but really bad for DC’s water health. Living between Columbia Road and U street, this means I will likely be completely surrounded by trash in all directions.

    Now, if 7-11 promised to do some sort of magical (effective) educational campaign about how to correctly dispose of the packaging of the products it sells, I could support another one coming into the community.

    • Let me see if I understand you correctly. You think people throw trash around because they don’t know how to use a garbage can and a campaign from 7-11 explaining how trash works would stop it?

    • Why is the owner of a store responsible for how people dispose of their trash? I live in Park View on a block where there are no stores selling goods of any kind. And yet I regularly find trash on the ground in front of my house or the houses of my neighbors. I even see half-empty carryout containers placed on lawns.

  • This is a poorly written, poorly reasoned, vaguely racist temper tantrum

  • Scrillin

    I love all the trash that 7/11s generate, tbh.

    I wish all these yuppies understood how good trash on the ground is.

    • Scrillin

      OOO I just remembered that Streets, Love & Faith, and Creme all just got outdoor seating!

      Sucks to be them.

  • How about they put in another 11 Market that just looks like a 7-11?

    • Don’t you dare speak a bad word about my beloved Eleven Market!
      Cheapest place to grab cold beer on U Street! And pickled eggs, single use Advil, condoms, rain ponchos and doo-rags.

  • I Dont Get It

    I heard that Donald Trump is to be the owner of this franchise

  • I live at Columbia and Wyoming in Adams Morgan. My building is literally connected to a 7-11. I actually like it because it’s convenient (sometimes I don’t want to walk 4 blocks to buy milk or eggs…). It does cause a little trash and there are always panhandlers outside of it though. But overall, I really like my 7-11.

    • This is literally the nicest 7-11 in the District. That said, it’s surrounded by embassies and very expensive housing.

  • The pets in that condo are gonna love this. My dog grew up (then threw up) on chicken bones and half eaten taquitos.

  • Not only is this an eye-roll inducing petition but it’s also poorly written. How embarrassing.

  • Very snobbish. And its not like even Whole Foods doesn’t attract obnoxious people (they just work for Greenpeace instead of being panhandlers but if anything are more aggressive). The 14th & RI 7/11 seems to attract a wide range of people, so even the well off feel compelled to patronize these places.

  • I reserve my right to wait and decide if this is whiny or wise after the 7/11 in Brookland opens.

  • Man, it must suck to hate poor people more than you love convenient coffee and snacks..

  • good, fuck 7/11s. I used to like them when I was a kid on road trips and could stop in to piss and get a slurpy, but as an adult i see what a drain they are on their local neighborhoods. The have high price shitty quality items and seem to target the poorest areas of communities where they could have an opportunity to do something good. Instead, they price gouge some of the most needed food staples and somehow have higher rates of credit card theft after use at their locations. Further, with this being a japanese chain all we’re doing is sending them our money rather than allowing smaller stores to thrive.

  • This isnt classist or racist…

    No one cares what color the person is or how much money they have… They just don’t want shitheads littering and harassing people near where they live and 7/11 attracts those shitheads by the fuckton.

    The cohi 7/11 is the worst, why would anyone want that?

  • The notion in this message board that it is about litter and completely divorced from socio-political status is absurd. It is a bunch of wealthy (mostly white) people complaining about the poor (mostly black) folks that will follow. You can call it “litter” or “loitering” all you want, but it is clear what you mean to say.
    For those of you who say “they are just protecting their property interests, and there is nothing wrong with that,” are missing a huge point. It is not like these complainers moved out into the suburbs, and are fighting a 7-11 moving into their perfect idyllic subdivision. They moved into a historically black and poorer neighborhood, built up a bunch of yuppie garbage, and now have the nerve to stake some claim to the neighborhood like it is theirs! It must be nice to have the money to move into a neighborhood, displace the poor residents, and then fight a convenience store because it doesn’t jive with your idea of the neighborhood.

    • Not sure what your point is here. Are you saying poor people have a right to litter because they were here first? Or just that poor people like littering? Or that they like having litter in their neighborhood?

    • By yuppie garbage, do you mean renovated homes, cleaner and safer playgrounds, better schools, and maybe a few stores that are worth spending time and money at? What a horrible place to be, yuppie land, while people like to complain, no body wants the war zone that DC can still be and definitely was. 7-Eleven while obviously convenient, isn’t the best choice and can be improved. This isn’t about income as in lower income areas people rather have a fresh grocer or a full service restaurant than a 7-Eleven as well.

      • No, they means dismissive, classist, racist, exclusionary people willing to use a mixture of their presumed entitlement and material wealth to needlessly bulldoze over the interest of people they look down upon. But I’m sure you knew that.

  • I rather see a 7/11 store at Solea’s other then another gin joint.

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