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  • Saw this on 14th around T last night and actually had nightmares later in my sleep. Definitely kinda made me want to embrace whatever was the opposite of whatever this was trying to advocate for or against – like – corn fish?

  • This car participated in a GMF rally that happened in Dupont Circle last Sunday. It was happening the same time as the farmer’s market, and had a bunch of marchers with drums and other sorts of percussion.

  • People are still protesting GMOs? These folks are 10 years behind the times, and even 10 years ago, they were pretty much wrong. And I say this as a former sympathizer who has long since moved on. Move along, folks, there’s nothing to see here….

    • i like to think i just somehow miss all you posts that might contain wisdom. surely you have some.

      • When I have something wise to say, I use the handles “anon” and “anonymous.” Haven’t you seen those posts?

        • gmo’s are still an issue, despite your acceptance and wit.

          • GMO’s are a HUGE issue. Especially when you look at ownership of the strains, etc.

          • That train left the station long ago. I happened to work on the issue briefly, about 12 years ago, from a critical perspective, and the writing was already on the wall. Nowadays, my thinking is more in line with that of Paul Collier: if you want to feed the world, you need to improve productivity, and GMOS are the easiest way to do that. They have been grown extensively in Argentina, the U.S., and elsewhere for some time now, with no serious adverse affects.

          • There are major anti-trust cases on the ownership of usage of the strains between major players in the industry. Herb Kohl has made it a goal to hold a hearing on competition in agriculture specifically related to GMOs. So, in conclusion, the issue is very alive.

    • Well, that car has got to be around 20 years old now, so maybe it’s a relic. A throwback to a different era.

    • Sorry, check again, 10 years is a long time, you know.

      The U.S. and Canada are the only two countries in the developed world that have accepted GMO products without question and without giving consumers the right to know what’s in the product – just in case, unlike you, they know the history of products introduced as safe that later proved harmful (heard of thalidamide? saccharin?).

      Anyway,once you get off the koolaid, catch up with the times at nongmoproject.org

      • You are understating the degreee to which GMOs have been accepted throughout the world. Yes, Cananda and the U.S. have been lax in their regulations, but dozens of countries have accepted them under stricter regulatory environments.

        I happen to agree that GMO products should be labeled. I have been a vegetarian for 20 years, and I am very conscientious about what I ate. Before moving to DC, I was a member of organic food co-ops in every city I lived in.

        But, the fact remains that GMOs are here to stay. I have accepted it and moved in with my life, choosing to focus on things I can actually change.

        And telling me to “get off the koolaid” isn’t very helpful. They actually drank “flavor aid” in Jonestown….a little known fact.

        • Your “flavor-aid” must have GMO in it, judging from some of the ludicrous statements you’ve made in this thread.

          • Define “ludicrous.” I try to be respectful, at least, and refrain from name calling. Even if you are really committed to a cause, you should try to take the high ground.

            Over the years, and during my youth, especially, I fought for every lost cause there was, mostly from the left. Everything was wrong with the world, I thought, and I was committed to changing things.

            Now, I am older and wiser, and I just don’t have the inclination or the energy to fight things that are beyond my control. GMOs are one of them.

            Good luck with the fight. I think it’s a losing battle, but more power to you. I’ll just watch from the sidelines and sip my GMO lemonade.

  • Hahaha….saw it Sunday driving on U street, turning onto 18th. It drove too fast for me to see what it was advertising/protesting. I thought the corn/fish was actually some kind of promotion for tamales!

  • Love the irony that a car protesting something like genetically modified foods is being serviced by one of the biggest corporate bad guys (Exxon) and especially one of the worst business neighbors in Adams Morgan.

    • I agree. They should have gone to one of the many nearby locally-owned, neighborhood-friendly options serving only sustainable, organic gasoline.

  • 2nd reply to Cabellero – who apparently still roams the pampas on a horse but is terribly au courant on all things scientific:

    Cabellero, you might want to check just how much productivity has been added by the use of GMOs. It will shock (and perhaps educate) you, unless, of course, you only read Monsanto brochures. GMOs to date have done nothing for productivity, have not added an ounce of new nutrition to the diets of anyone here or in developing countries and have fostered the poor – and expensive – farming practices of monocropping, excessive nitrogen fertilization and pesticide use, adding excessive risk to all farming operations, but particularly those in developing nations.

    On the other hand if you think the Monsanto should ultimately own the entire gene pool of corn, soy and other staple crops, hop on your horse and follow Cabellero into the sunset.

  • Bill,

    Thanks for your informed comment. You clearly know something about the issue, and I appreciate that.

    I don’t claim to know the science, and I can’t vouch for Monsanto as being a good corporate citizen. But I really doubt that there aren’t benefits to GMOs. You make it sound as if they were developed for the sole purpose of enriching a company’s coffers, without bringing any benefits to global agriculture. If that were the case, they wouldn’t be growing as they are, and countries wouldn’t be accepting them, as they increasingly are.

    I know there are debates over the extent to which GMOs will benefit smallholders in developing countries, but they are legitimate debates between economists, agronomists, and other food security specialists. I am from a developing country myself, and I don’t necessarily view global agribusiness as a threat to small farmers, as some people do. This position seems to be popular in wealthy countries, where they tend to view small farmers as naieve and vulnerable to the predations of internatinoal capital. I am not of that school.

    There is always opposition to new technology. And, most of the time, the new technology rolls over the opposition, whether we like it or not.

  • Cabellero,

    Good points and a much more reasoned presentation than your first comments.

    Believe it or not, I am neither a crazed anti-science guy, nor completely sold that GMOs are bad for you. And, yes, I worked in agriculture and in developing countries for several years.

    My point was just that before you go “dissing” what they’re saying, you should get up to speed – even as a lay person. The fact is – and this is a fact – that field use of GMOs does not yet indicate that there are significant benefits to yield or nutrition. What they do show – and this is particularly true in developed nitrogen-dependent, acreage-limited areas, is that they make crops far more resistant to the use of pesticides. This CAN improve yields under those conditions but it has also came with a 400% increase in the use of Roundup (Monsanto) and other pesticides in domestic agriculture. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the connection here.

    And, while I agree with you that there is no credible trial results showing that GMOs are bad for your health, it is not unreasonable to believe that they might be, considering the history of product introduction in agriculture and consumer products. Under those circumstances, virtually every single developed country in the world, with the exception of the U.S. and Canada, require that GMO products be labeled, so consumers can choose to purchase them or not. That’s not much to ask, especially here, in the U.S., where “transparency” is considered important and an informed consumer is considered a right.

    That’s it. There’s no bogey man here. There’s just a huge lobbying program to protect a program whose proponents argue is safe, and therefore not in need of protection. All the while blocking a reasonable consumer request to be informed about what they’re eating.

    And, technology does not always roll over consumers. The GMO labeling program is almost identical to what consumers asked of Bovine Growth Hormone (BHT) 10 years ago. At that time, chemical companies argued for – and won – the right to keep labeling off milk, claiming BHT milk was not chemically different than plain milk, so labeling might “BIAS” the consumer.

    Though they won, over time the consumer’s interest in non-BHT milk led to a reversal and ultimately to what we have today, a situation where most milk producers PROUDLY label that they wouldn’t be caught dead with BHTs.

    Anyway, looks like I should have written a book instead.


  • Corn Fish, the Fishy Corn Car, was made by DC-based artist Cesar Maxit and was used as a support vehicle for the NYC to DC, 313 mile Right2Know March that took place between October 1-16 for labeling GMO foods.

    Watch the artist interview:

    If you support GMO labeling, sign the FDA petition at http://www.justlabelit.org

  • For more photos of Corn Fish, the Fishy Corn Car, check out the Right2Know March Facebook photo album: http://is.gd/BBWGx8

  • This is very good discussion and shows the power of the internet to connect and inform the public. Bill is in fact correct that there is no bogey man, just a sincere desire to know what is in our food. If it is a GMO I want to know. I think we have long history of labeling ingredients as a key form of consumer protection. Simply, some people are allergic to GMO’s and others want to avoid them after seeing animal studies showing harmful effects to animals fed a GMO diet. I don’t want to be experimented on, but when these foods are unlabeled it is as if the government is saying to Monsanto and others, “go ahead use the American people as guinea pigs.” I helped organize the GMO Right2Know march and live in Adams Morgan. Cornfish is getting inspected again tomorrow (its brakes failed the DMV test and that is why its in the shop) but will likely be a fixture around here for a while. Yeah, we don’t like Cornfish, but certain varieties of GMO corn are just that, Fishy Corn.

  • One last note to Caballero: I’d appreciate the reference to what Paul Collier had to say on GMOs. Anyone familiar with African economics respects his opinions, so it strikes me as odd that he would make such a flip – and patently incorrect – comment. (But it wouldn’t be the first time a smart person felt obligated to comment on something they no little about!) Anyway, if you have the source, I’d love to see it.

    Thanks in advance,

    • Bill,

      I will look for the article. I have to wade through my files, which are in temporary disarray, because I’m in the middle of some research. It was an article from a few years ago, perhaps in “Foreign Policy,” but probably somewhere else. The piece was provocative and he engaged in more editorializing than research, but it was still a good read. Check back here later…I will try to find it.

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