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GDoN “additional full refrigerator included” edition (reader request)

by Prince Of Petworth May 16, 2017 at 12:00 pm 39 Comments

5130 South Dakota Ave NE

This house is located at 5130 South Dakota Ave, NE. The MRIS listing says:

“Move in ready house in sought after North Michigan Park! Open floor plan w/ hard wood floors on 1st & 2nd floor. Newly renovated kitchen w/ stainless steel appliances. Finished basement w/ brand new carpet can be used as a private den or extra BR; full 2nd BA offers luxurious travertine shower; laundry room & additional full refrigerator included. 1.5 blocks from Ft. Totten Metro & new retail!”

OP writes: “Have never seen a fridge set up like this.”


You can see more photos here.

This 2 bed/2 bath is going for $467,000.

  • Anonynon

    “seems very high”

  • NH Ave Hiker

    aren’t those just two mini fridges? Geez whose idea was that.

    • jonah

      Which means you can never buy ice cream again.

      • textdoc

        My thought exactly.

    • dcd

      One’s probably a freezer – I have a small one like that we used before we had room for a chest freezer.

  • Rich

    You can find smaller GI BIll houses in the suburbs with more usable kitchen space.

  • ARB

    I actually looked at this house once when it was for rent. Though it is very nice inside, it isn’t huge. I didn’t end up renting it because the non-regular refrigerator was a deal breaker.

  • northeazy

    a block and a half from a Metro line? 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms? Under $500k? OK sure the fridge situation is not ideal, but what’s wrong with this house? Seems like a great starter house for a young couple or family.

    • NH Ave Hiker

      That part of NE doesn’t get too much love. I agree it’s a decent price for the city, but it’s crazy to think that less than 500k is a good deal now…

  • anon

    Totally weird that they didn’t just find a cheap full-sized fridge on CL. People give/cheaply sell these things when they renovate their kitchens. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a good deal.

    • textdoc

      The problem isn’t the appliance itself — it’s that they left no SPACE in the kitchen for a full-sized fridge.

      • dcd

        Yes, I agree. What bothers me most is the ridiculous cut-out – those are nice when you have lots of space, but in a kitchen this size, that’s a lot of cabinet space to forego.

        • textdoc

          Totally agreed.

  • lucie

    The layout is good and the wood trim is lovely. But the kitchen is super awkward – I assume they did the mini fridges because otherwise there would be very little counter /cabinet space, but it also feels like they could have done better. There’s about 6 inches at the end of the cabinet block on the wall where the sink is where they could have added a narrow cabinet. They could have run the cabinets to the ceiling on the opposite wall. I would have done granite on the narrow counter rather than butcher block to make it flow better. Overall, I’d probably spend 50k bumping out the kitchen to make it usable, but it would still be a decent price.

  • This fridge setup is akin to what you’d see in any urban setting in Europe, where space is at a premium and most families shop the local street markets for their produce and such multiple times per week. It’s endearing to me, to be honest.

    • Rich

      Not just Europe. Actually I’ve seen units at the Cairo that have a fancy mini-fridge with a freezer compartment and that’s it.

    • textdoc

      Yeah, but fridges in Europe are 1) not THIS small and 2) have freezers you can actually keep ice cream in.
      Unless mini-fridge technology has improved significantly since I was in college, mini fridges are crap at keeping ice cream properly frozen.

      • prince-of-parkview

        half a million to not even have a freezer? better off renting for a few more years and saving up for something else.

      • dcd

        One’s probably a freezer – I have this one as an extra (link below):

      • JoDa

        Plus, you know, those cities actually have markets and small-scale grocers and butchers and the like. Beyond the shudder that went down my spine thinking about going to Walmart 3, 4, 5 days a week, it’s not like they’re designed for the kitchenette crowd. I’d wager you can’t even buy just 1 or 2 pounds of chicken or the like at Walmart. There isn’t exactly a “street market” or even full-service butcher counter nearby…

    • RyanD

      I could see rocking undercounter. For that much house, I think that you need to go a little bit better than minifridge and freezer. If you jumped up a bunch:



  • Franny

    That fridge set up is just embarrassing. I would have love to have been a fly on the wall the day the owner/general contractor made that decision.

    “Well, to get a full size fridge in, we will have to move that wall over there a little bit”

    “Screw it…I don’t care that I bought this place for $215,000 and am trying to sell it for almost $500K, we are just gonna buy two$ 100 dollar mini fridges and shove them under the counter and call it a day”

  • textdoc

    The house looks nice, but the kitchen setup is batsh!t crazy. They should have figured out some way of putting a full-size fridge in there. Even if it meant less counter/cabinet space, or eliminating the pass-through between the kitchen and the dining room, the end product would still have been less bizarre.
    Probably the easiest thing to do is remove the existing stuff where the mini fridges are, remove the upper cabinets, and put a full-size fridge there. It also looks like there’s no proper hood for the stove… at the very least, there ought to be a rudimentary exhaust fan to the outdoors.

    • jonah

      Maybe block one of the two doors in the back for more wall space. Not ideal but you maybe could make a reasonable dining room with some cabinet space out there.

  • RCH

    Maybe they’re British?

  • HillEast

    that kitchen layout makes this place a hard pass.

  • Hookdntx

    I can see replacing the mini fridges with a drawer fridge like this one http://www.homedepot.com/p/KitchenAid-24-in-W-4-7-cu-ft-Double-Drawer-Freezerless-Refrigerator-in-Stainless-Steel-Counter-Depth-KUDR204ESB/206021001 and then just keeping a chest freezer (I have always wanted one) in the basement

  • textdoc

    I have no idea what the comps are, but if this is in line with prices for other renovated homes in the neighborhood, it might actually be a good deal for a buyer who’s willing to remedy the crazy kitchen layout. It will turn most buyers off.
    For what it’s worth, tax records show this as an owner-occupied property with recordation date 2006, no sales price listed. It’s possible that it was recently renovated in anticipation of a sale, but it doesn’t appear to be a straight-out flip in the sense of having been purchased by a developer with the intention of renovating and quickly selling.
    I don’t see any permits for this address in PIVS, which is worrisome — even if the A/C was already installed, shouldn’t there be permits for the kitchen renovation?

    • JoDa

      That brings up some red flags. Note that ARB above viewed this when it was available for rent, so that means that it was potentially rented without a license/while taking the homestead deduction. Plenty of people do the former, but the latter is indicative of someone who’s at best extremely careless and at worst lacking anything resembling scruples. Neither bode well for any work being done well.
      The other big drawback is that this has a smaller lot than most of the other homes in the area, and no parking (most in this area have 1-2 spaces). Particularly fronting SD, no parking is a semi-major drawback. Additional drawback is only being 2 beds. Most in the area are 3-4 (yes, with one frequently in the basement). Doesn’t look like there’s room to add a full bedroom in the basement, so 2 is light on bedrooms for the area.
      I’ve been seeing fully renovated homes in that area in the mid to high 500’s, creeping into the low 600’s closer to the Metro (it’s actually 5 blocks – about half a mile – not 1.5 as the realtor suggests). The new construction on top of the Metro is only going for the mid-600’s, so upside potential on this is there, but not extreme. Would work for someone who has or will soon have the cash to do the bump-out to make the kitchen usable and gussy up the upstairs some, and will never need more than 2 bedrooms + potential guest space in the basement.

      • stacksp

        How do you know they took the homestead deduction? What signs point to that?

        • HaileUnlikely

          I do not know any facts of this specific case, but you can look up any address in DC in the property tax assessment database and see whether the owner is reported to be taking the Homestead Deduction. (carefully phrased “reported to be” because I have no knowledge whatsoever of the accuracy of the information that the website displays)

        • JoDa

          See textdoc’s comment above. The tax records he referred to would show that the property was granted the homestead deduction as an indication of owner occupied. The records are pretty accurate, with a slight lag in updating (a month or so after a change).

  • j

    it’s not the fridge situation that concerns me so much as the lack of dishwasher…

    • textdoc

      Good point, and well spotted. I wonder if they didn’t have enough space left in the lower cabinet after putting in the double sink — if so, it should’ve been a single sink.
      I imagine adding a dishwasher (if there’s enough space horizontally) wouldn’t be all that huge an undertaking, provided the necessary electrics are nearby… but with that and the fridge, it’d be kind of infuriating to have to re-renovate a just-renovated kitchen.

    • JoDa

      Typically I’d overlook the lack of a dishwasher (not ideal, and I prefer to have one, but lacking one in older homes/smaller kitchens isn’t a high crime), but this kitchen as a whole requires a lot of extra work to cook at home…going to the store frequently because of lack of cold and other storage space, cooking efficiently to pull it off in such limited space, cleaning as you go to keep the counters usable, then handwashing dishes. It makes me tired thinking about it, especially if you’re cooking for a family. I know people like having a “proper” dining space and keeping walls, but, barring a bump-out, there isn’t space in this home, and they would have been better off combining the kitchen and dining room (and getting rid of one of the doors) and going with an eat-in kitchen/kitchen + dining nook so that they could have a full-size fridge, usable counter space, decent storage, and a dishwasher. It’s not like a family of 6 or someone who entertains heavily is going to buy a place like this. Seating for 4 would be sufficient.

  • Anony

    Seriously what neighborhood isn’t “sought after” these days?

  • AMDCer

    While I completely agree that this kitchen is a weird design, there is an additional full-size fridge/freezer in the basement (seen in the photos on the zillow listing), and I think that’s what the listing is referring to by “additional full fridge,” so one wouldn’t lack for space/freezer.


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