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GDoN “Victorian greets you with a wrap around porch” edition (reader request)

by Prince Of Petworth February 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm 33 Comments

3630 13th St NE

This house is located at 3630 13th Street, NE. OP writes: “This might be a very rare opportunity to own one of the true Victorians left in Brookland!” The MRIS listing says:

“Gorgeous 6 bed/4.5 bath Victorian greets you with a wrap around porch, FP, Wd Flrs, 10′ ceilings, pocket doors and oversized windows. Gourmet renovated kitchen, stainless steel appliances, six burner stove with double oven. A sun room and fully finished basement add to the grandeur. Off-street pkg, short walk to Metro, shops and restaurants. Video: https://youtu.be/dP3opXwJmQI OPEN SUN 1-4″


You can see more photos here.

This 6 bed/4.5 bath is going for $1,095,000.

  • Moe

    Now THIS is what I would pay $1M for in Brookland.

  • anonymous

    Minus the NO backyard thing—Which I would want in the part of town– This is a great house.

  • Elkhaert

    Soooo, Moe (the comenter above) is both the OP and the real estate agent, right?

    • Moe

      Nope, just a neighbor who is astounded at other things listed for a million in Brookland. I’ve always wondered what this house looked like on the inside. Was it previously a Catholic group house/nunhouse?

      • Bland

        Not a group home. Woman who lived there for a number of years.

        • Nicky

          It was on the House and Garden tour a few years back.

  • Matty

    Supernicefantastic staging! Now if I could only afford that price…oh well, back to reality. Oh and that rooftop and that yard, man.

  • Yay! This house has rooms, actual rooms! It’s beautiful. Grass needs some work, and there are a few minor details I’m not keen on (like kitchen cabinets not going to ceiling) but otherwise it’s really lovely.

  • transplanted

    There’s plenty to like about it, but for a house that size I’d like a bit more lot. And I am not the world’s biggest open-floor-plan advocate, but some of those tiny rooms and alcoves are pretty much unusable. Are they trying to use the mudroom/hallway to the backyard as a breakfast nook?
    They did a horrible job in the kitchen. The cabinets are all hung to different heights, and not all intentionally.

    • LittleBluePenguin

      Yeah, there are lots of things to like, but also things to dislike, such as the kitchen – it just seems all off and doesn’t fit in well with the rest of the house, somehow. I can’t figure out which is the sunroom thing they’re talking about, and yes, some of those little rooms would do better to be melded into a larger room. But I love the porch, the outside space, and the attic room/ bedroom. I guess it’s a good deal considering it’s in Brookland and has what seems to be a whole lotta room.

      • fka Petworth

        Sunroom is the room staged like a breakfast nook

    • BRKLND

      Pros: I love and covet Victorians. This house looks great on the outside (not my first choice color palette). Also pocket doors as far as the eye can see. Love that they kept some original charm.

      Cons: The kitchen…seems like they splurged on the range but took shortcuts on everything else. If I ever had a million dollars to spend on a house (probably never) I would expect the appliances to match and not have weirdo toaster ovens hanging under my uneven cabinets. Also – I understand the reason why people put ductless units in but I absolutely hate them and think they are so ugly even more so in a house like this.

    • anon

      I agree. I think this is a much nicer house than that design disaster from yesterday, and I love that they kept the original woodwork. However, this kitchen just doesn’t make sense in such a nice house. It completely ruins it for me. At that price point, I wouldn’t want to have to do any updates other than maybe paint color, and for me, this kitchen would be a total replacement. The bathrooms are ok but pretty blah, and again, for the price, I’d want something that feels more high-end. The ductless units in every room are a total eyesore.

  • stacksp

    I’d say a good deal given the size of the home and the lot alone. Modest updates and the price of this home soars.

  • wdc

    I think it’s lovely, and probably a good deal. I’m especially taken with the attic bedroom.
    Random personal style opinion: venetian blinds are ugly, outdated, and impractical, and flippers should stop using them. If you can’t afford plantation shutters, a curtain rod, some sheers, and some plain panels will set you back no more than $50.

    • lizcolleena

      Aren’t venetian blinds the most standard blinds? How are they outdated? They’re just basic (not in the snarky way).

      • wdc

        They were, the way formica was standard for counters and linoleum and wall-to-wall carpet were standard for floors. Times have changed.

        • anon

          Oh, not so – whenever I see plantation shutters in a house to which they are totally not suited by design (which is all of the old houses in this area), I always think “I’d have to take those out.” While I wouldn’t myself install venetian blinds to replace them, and would choose other window treatments, they are far preferable as a design choice to plantations shutters where they just don’t belong and aren’t compatible with the house in design.

          And, I see nothing wrong with renovated kitchens with formica counters and new lino on the floors – I rather like the lino floors, and can live with formica (have had it in most of my homes, and don’t find the stone I have now to be in any way superior.) Wall to wall carpet, on the other hand, is just a dust magnet and can never really be cleaned – I would never live with it.

    • HaileUnlikely

      Regarding the blinds – even if I were to agree (I don’t, but that isn’t my point), I don’t think this is a flip. This house hasn’t changed ownership anytime recently and there were lots of work permits taken out here and there between 2010 and 2013, suggesting that the owner just updated some things over time. I don’t have any beef with an owner buying venetian blinds for their own house, and replacing them for the purpose of selling the house will likely just waste money and materials, as the new owner is unlikely to offer more based on window treatments present and may well end up replacing the new ones that the owner put up just for staging anyway.

  • AJSE

    WOW I love this house.

  • BookaholicAnonymous

    Even with the slightly wonky kitchen cabinets and the prison yard-esque cinderblock wall in the backyard, this is basically my fantasy house. But what I really want to know is: where did they get that fabulous toile/Beatrix Potter wallpaper pictured in the first bath?

  • anon

    Not just a good deal; seems to be priced for a bidding war.

  • petworthdc

    Definitely going to the open house on Sunday – that is, if it is still available.

  • Anon H St

    Wow, beautiful house. For that much space that close to the metro, I definitely think it’s a good deal at that price (and could go higher).

  • Rich

    A lot of square footage which probably helps justify the price. Also a lot of character. The kitchen is an exception, though.

    I’m surprised no one has wined about the lack of central air.

    • wdc

      I don’t mind the mini units. Centrally cooling an entire house is very inefficient. I have central air now, and I wish there were a way to just cool the room I’m actually using, rather than refrigerating the basement in order to get the bedrooms to a livable temp.

    • JoDa

      Old troll is old. The exterior shot above shows the condenser. House has central A/C (according to listing). I’m glad you like 100 degree temps without A/C, you are not in the mainstream on that.

      • James W.

        Not clear where anyone advocated not having A/C

        • JoDa

          Rich is obsessed with the idea that if he says window A/Cs are the most efficient option on the market, steam heat maintains winter humidity and is efficient, and people shouldn’t consider the types and presence of these systems when evaluating the price of a home, we’ll all just take him at his word.
          Problem is, just like his research on the efficiency and efficacy of various heating and cooling systems, his reading of listings is a little flawed.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I might just be a little bit slow of mind, but I’m thoroughly confused by the chain of comments to which this is posted as a reply. Is this in response to something that Rich actually said here. It looks like an out-of-context pot shot at Rich which isn’t really relevant to the present discussion.

          • Rich

            Actually, I like making fun of people who are obsessed with having central air. It just seems petty, in the bigger scheme of schemes–like when load bearing walls probably have been removed.

          • JoDa

            Right…not having something that will cost you $15-20K (+++for a property like this) to install is *perfectly* equivalent to poorly done renovations that will cost you more to remedy. “Rich” shows up on every GDoN and rental of the day and extols the virtues of window A/C and steam heat, and says that the lack of central A/C and forced-air heat shouldn’t bear on the value of a property. I’m fairly certain he’s marketing properties that haven’t been updated with these “modern amenities.”
            While we can reasonably argue mini-split vs. forced-air, and whether a zone system is worth the cost, there’s little doubt that A/C that can reasonably called “central” is a given when you’re spending over a million. But, hey, tolls gotta troll; marketers gotta convince us to settle. While DC has more degree heating days than degree cooling days (by a small margin), the degree cooling days we have tend to be very extreme. Most people won’t live in a place without reasonable cooling, especially on the upper end. If you want me to spend a million bucks on a home, I better not sweat on my couch when it, inevitably, hits 100 in the summer.

          • anon

            While I agree with you that window AC is terribly inefficient, and I would definitely want some sort of central heating, if it it is zoned mini-splits, you are completely wrong about forced air being preferable for heat. I grew up with it, and had it once for three years as an adult – I always found it to be dusty and kinda dry (even with a humidifier attached to the furnace) and my lungs didn’t like it. I far prefer living with radiant heat.

            Radiant heat IS best – though it doesn’t preserve humidity in a home (you have to put water pans under, on top of, or behind radiators to put moisture in the air, and I have my doubts about how much water that disperses, such that I’ve never done it, and just purchased small room humidifiers when needed.)

            Not all radiant heat is steam heat – old radiator heat comes in two varieties, hot water and steam, and I think the hot water type is considered better (at least in single family houses – there may be some advantages to getting steam to upper floors of multifamily buildings that are tall.)


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