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Good Deal or Not? “Garage & finished 2nd level in Carriage House” edition

by Prince Of Petworth March 1, 2013 at 1:00 pm 15 Comments

455 Q Street Northwest

This house is located at 455 Q Street, NW:


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The listing says:

“Stunningly Renovated 3 BR/ 2.5 BA Victorian Townhouse with 2 level Carriage House in Shaw. Located on a tree lined street featuring an open floor plan, tons of light, designer marble, spacious kitchen w/ SS appls & granite, new oak hwd floors throughout, master shower spa, all new systems, & new roof. Private Flagstone Courtyard, Garage & finished 2nd level in Carriage House – great for an office!”

You can see more photos here.

This 3 bed/2.5 bath is going for $749,000.

  • Anonymous

    Great location, so I’d say it’s a good deal. The carriage house, garage and yard are a huge plus. Those are the factors that would cause me to choose this house, as I was not terribly fond of the cookie cutter renovation of the interior.

  • Anony

    Anonymous. I had almost the exact opposite reaction.

    Bad location because its practically on top of the Section 8 troublemakers in Shaw. The house is also too small for the price and the carriage house (while cool) is not really usable for much.

    • hma

      The proximity to section 8 housing is a deal-killer (for me).

      I’m sure someone else will think this is a steal and pay the $0.75M.

  • Anonymous

    I love the location, but I don’t know that I’d pay 3/4 of a million for it.

  • Anonymous

    Bad deal. $563 a square foot without a basement at all is too high for this neighborhood. The second bedroom lacks a window.

    This house sold last year for $690 without bars on the windows. I find it interesting the one-year-long owner found it necessary to add bars to the windows.

    Agree the carriage house is essentially useless. Under current zoning, you can’t legally rent it out, and even if you later could, it lacks plumbing and would be expensive to make rentable.

    • hma

      At 5th & Q, I’d be adding bars to all ground level windows. I think this is a no-brainer.

  • m

    I predict that this house will sell for right around asking. I agree that the lack of a basement is a negative, but the space in the carriage house does somewhat make up for it (at least in terms of storage). Also, the yard and secure parking is a real plus. Take a look at what else is on the market in a two block radius of this place and what other properties have sold for in the last year, and it should be clear that the market has decided that this is a pretty good deal.

    Also, the location is great despite what [email protected]:18 thinks. It’s a five minute walk to the metro and to the soon-to-be completed Giant at 7th and P. And, the crime stats would lead one to think that it’s quite safe. Also, to that point, and to respond to [email protected]:28, that house always had bars on the windows, which you can see in google street view.

    • Anonymous

      I’m basing the bars on the prior listing photo, which shows no bars. Of course, it’s possible it was photo-shopped. Your defense of this house sounds like realtor-speak to me.

      http://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/455-Q-St-NW-20001/home/9883657/mris-DC7767375

      • m

        Nope, not a realtor. :)

      • Anonymous

        and your attack on the location sounds like the bitterness of a person who didn’t buy when the buying was ripe.

  • Anonymous

    It’s about the price I expected but I certainly wouldn’t pay that much for that house. The bedrooms, especially the third, are tiny and it appears (but it’s hard to tell) that the dining area is super-skinny. I love the carriage house but it’s not enough to make up for the boring renovation and the relatively small space.

  • anony

    Bad deal. Price per sq ft is atrocious, this is a *small* house. No basement = limited storage in the house proper If you could get a CoA for an accessory dwelling MAYBE this is a better deal with rental income. But, yeah, good luck with that if it isn’t even plumbed. Pictures make that backyard look a lot larger than it probably is (and zero front yard).

  • angryparakeet

    Also that “carriage house” is really ugly, like a big built-on shed.

  • Anonymous

    Pros: close to metro and new giant. Q st is one way and quieter than the in-city highways like 6th, 7th, and yes, my Petworth friends, Georgia. oak floors, nice crown molding and chair rail, private garage is cool, and did anyone else notice 5 shower heads in the master bath?
    Cons: no basement, can’t rent carriage house, shaw ain’t exactly u street…yet
    Conclusion: not sure if it gets 750, but times are crazy and inventory is low, maybe it comes close or even gets bid up, shaw has been bonkers lately and most of the house are getting turned into condo.

  • m

    And, three days later, it’s already under contract.

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