“Isnt the police all for one and one for all or am I missing it?” Ed. Note: You’re Missing It

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“Dear PoPville,

New and being passed around town to all the LGBT places are these posters from MPD. What sayeth the good citizens of DC is it really necessary to have a seperate group focused in on a particular group? Isnt the police all for one and one for all or am I missing it?”

From MPD:

“The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Liaison Unit (LGBTLU) is a team of dedicated officers that focuses on the public safety needs of the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and their allied communities. They conduct public education campaigns on issues related to hate crimes and public safety. Their primary focus is to gain the trust of the community and seek out information that leads to the closure of hate crime and violent crime within the LGBT community. They conduct patrol functions and respond to all citizen complaints.”

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  • All for one and one for all is the three musketeers, isn’t it? Pretty sure that isn’t MPD’s slogan.

  • OP, I strongly urge you to do a little reading on the historical relationship between the police and the LGBT community if you do not understand the need/purpose of the liaison unit.

  • My understanding is that historically police departments including MPD, have had a sucky time when it comes to relations to the LGBTLU community. Being creeped out by them as people to the point of not taking crimes seriously. Sure this can apply in a slightly different way to race, but I think when it comes to his community because of the hidden nature historically, that changed the dynamics in a way that doesn’t apply to others. But I am not a historian on this so take that for what it is worth.

  • Farragut

    If certain groups have issues, a liaison unit can be useful.

    For example, there’s an MPD Deaf and Hard of Hearing Liaison Unit, too. I hope I don’t have to explain why that can be useful (hint: communication).

  • “Is it really necessary to have a separate group focused in on a particular group?” With that logic – why would the police have a homicide group? Shouldn’t your average patrol person know how to properly conduct a homicide investigation? Specialization allows for focusing on a specific issue at hand and get really good at it. I see this as a positive.

  • There are very distinct kinds of crimes that tend to be perpetrated against the LGBTQ community and there have been historically tense relationships with the community that are counterproductive to addressing those crimes. Is the OP also opposed to a unit focused on sex crimes? Or gangs? And “all for one, etc,” is the slogan for the Three Musketeers, genius!

  • These types of questions are what happens when Trumpsters move to DC, I suppose . . .

  • There’s also a student unit because building relationships is kind of important for preventing as well as solving crime.

  • “What if there was a WET….”

  • To answer the questions: Yes. And yes you are missing it.

  • jburka

    It’s always nice to see a public expression of those special rights we’ve been lobbying for all these years: our own special police! Pretty sure they’re the ones who make those Christian bakers and florists make our weddings so special.

    I don’t remember when I first saw a poster for what used to be the GLLU, but it’s been a very long time. The (now-renamed) LGBTLU has been part of MPD for nearly 17 years. I hardly think this qualifies as “something new.”

  • justinbc

    Base level trolling, not worth a serious response. Thank you MPD for your service.

  • Here’s how such a unit can be very helpful. I was attacked at Randolph and Kansas NW back in 2004. I was sucker punched with a brick to my face by two teens. They did not say anything to me – and ran like cowards when I responded rather violently – so I don’t know if I was targeted for being gay, but it was certainly a possibility (having been hit in the eye, I didn’t get a good look at the guys, and they could have known who I was). I told the officer who arrived on the scene that I was gay, and I told the EMTs. The next day I received a call from an MPD detective who told me the crime could not be investigated because I couldn’t make an identification and they didn’t actually steal anything. Facing a huge amount of reconstructive surgery and being in pain and depressed, I didn’t think of how outrageous this was.

    Forward about 18 months. The Washington Blade covers a series of similar attacks on gay men. I contacted the LGBT Liaison Unit because I thought “there could be a connection.” The LGBTLU officer who took my information was appalled that the detective refused to investigate such a violent assault. She attempted to restart the investigation at that point, but there was simply too little to go on (no witnesses had been identified, etc.) More importantly, she was amazingly empathetic and concerned about me, which the original police officer and detective were not. She also indicated their lack of action would be noted to their commanding officers. I cannot how much better I felt after dealing with the LGBTLU, and how shocked I was to realize I had likely been discriminated against by the MPD.

    • “I cannot stress how much better…” It does pay to proofread, doh!

    • I’ve posted here before about my friend who’s in an abusive relationship. After one incident when his boyfriend beat him up, the police were called. One officer walked in, saw the bleeding guy, said “I thought this was a DV call?” looked at my friend and says “Ugh. I’m gonna need some gloves.”
      Then they gave my friend all kinds of run-around about how it couldn’t be domestic violence, because they’re not formally domestic partners. My friend said “what about assault”? And the cop said “maybe you should quit hanging around this guy and find yourself a nice girl instead.” Ultimately refused to take a report.

    • In San Diego about 10 years ago, I walked by the cops talking to a man with obvious injuries standing outside of his house while another man could be seen ransacking the house through the windows. The man explained to the cop that his ex, whom he had previously thrown out, had broken into the house, beat him up, and was proceeding to destroy the place. The cop asked him, “Do you really want us to deal with this or do you want to handle it like a man?”

    • I’m so sorry that happened to you.

    • Do you mind divulging what you suspect the race/ethnicity of the two teens were? Because, well… if they were white (and you anything but) this would automatically be chalked up as a “hate crime.” Do you disagree?

      • Yes. I disagree. The race of the perps doesn’t determine if it was a racially motivated hate crime unless there’s reason to believe the person was targeted because of his race. Now, this was likely a hate crime based on sexual orientation considering the pattern of similar crimes targeting gay men. Race is irrelevant.

  • Never mind that for a long time homosexuality was flat-out illegal on its own, LGBT people were for a longer time automatically assumed to dangerous sexual predators, still are in some places, by the justice system. Consider this case: https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/movies/2017/02/16/southwest-salem-tale-scapegoating-and-hysteria/2B2sOhMM9uQpJX0roMyoPK/story.html THESE WOMEN WEREN’T EXONERATED UNTIL 2016, DUDE. I’d advise the OP to keep his/her doubts to himself, lest many neighbors think he/she is oblivious and thoughtless.

  • “Sayeth” was the first clue that yes, you are in fact “missing it.”

    Props to the more enlightened parts of MPD.

  • They’ve had this unit for years. I used to live near their headquarters in Dupont in the late 90s and I don’t think it was new even then. It might have just been called the gay and lesbian unit back then. But yeah, thanks Obama/Hillary!

  • accendo

    MPD has several of these units: https://mpdc.dc.gov/sld

    They are important assets to a department that serves a very diverse population.

  • OP, we see you are new here. Welcome.
    From MPD: https://mpdc.dc.gov/sld
    MPD Special Liaison Units support community policing with communities that are sometimes underserved, and is composed of the:
    – Asian Liaison Unit (ALU)
    – Deaf and Hard of Hearing Liaison Unit (DHHLU)
    – Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Liaison Unit (LGBTLU)
    – Latino Liaison Unit (LLU)

  • Let me guess… All Lives Matter? *eye roll*

  • My family lives in DC, and we have a transgender daughter. Knowing this group is here has made it so much safer for us to share our story. Sargent Hawkins and her team give us the peace of mind that our child, and thousand of people like her, have law enforcement who truly understands. I think sometimes it’s hard for people to understand the issues, especially related to the transgender community because they don’t someone who identifies as trans. This is one of the reasons we’ve been so public and recently started a public page where people a can get to know us, families like ours and the issues impacting the transgender community. It’s hard to hate up close. Please join our community of allies and people willing to learn more (www.facebook.com/TheFordFamily). And THANK YOU, MPD!

    • Also want to point out the liaison unit was a huge help in the aftermath of the Pulse attack. I’ve always been keenly aware I’m a target going to and from a gay bar, but that attack really shook our community. The following weekends liaison officers routinely would stop into gay bars to ensure all was well.

      • figby

        Amen! I have a friend in MPD who wanted to be on that unit but there is a lot of competition, even among straight officers. I have since noticed the members get a huge cheer every year at the Pride Parade, happy to see their work makes a difference.

  • Also, what about a straight pride parade? And when is white history month? /s

  • Anyone who uses the construction “what say you”; is a giant tool masquerading as an intellectual.

  • Nice to see that privilege and ignorance continue to go hand in hand.

    • There is no group of people on earth that is not infected with ignorance. If you want people to learn to acknowledge and understand privilege then you should stop using the word as an insult.

  • mid city guy

    I see the OP is nowhere to be found in thee responses. naive troll? click bait? welcome to the new reality? yeesh

  • My question: why is OP so bothered by this? What’s their problem? Seem like they just want to be petty and target a group they don’t like … Sad.

  • Yes, I am totally against special units. I mean look at this mess:

    Air Support Unit (Falcon)
    Arrest and Criminal History Section (Police Clearances)
    Asian Liaison Unit
    Civil Rights and Force Investigations Branch
    Communications, Office of
    Community Outreach
    Corporate Support Bureau
    Criminal Interdiction Unit (CIU)
    DC POST Board
    Deaf and Hard of Hearing Liaison Unit
    Diversity and Equal Employment Opportunity Compliance Branch
    Domestic Violence Unit
    Evidence Control Branch
    Family Liaison Specialist Unit
    Financial Crimes and Fraud Unit
    Firearms and Fingerprint Examination Division
    Firearms Registration Unit
    Grants Unit
    Harbor Patrol
    Human Resource Management
    Internal Affairs Bureau
    Latino Liaison Unit
    La Unidad de Enlace Latino
    Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Unit (LGBTLU)
    Major Case Victims Unit
    Metropolitan Police Academy, Maurice T. Turner Jr.
    Patrol Services Bureau
    Policy and Standards Branch
    Professional Development Bureau
    Research and Analytical Services Division
    Sex Assault Unit
    Security Officers Management Branch
    Special Liaison Branch
    Testing and Assessment Branch
    Victim Services Branch
    Victim Specialists Unit
    Youth and Family Services Division

    (source: mpdc.dc.gov/page/specialized-units)

    Surely all those groups have the exact same needs, and all related crimes are pretty much the same, right? And isn’t every cop trained expertly to handle every single situation. I mean, it’s just like at my workplace. We all have the same title, perform the same function, and are 100% interchangeable. I’m sick of the MPD trying to improve the quality of service to the community.

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