Man Allegedly Beaten by Trump Supporters in “an anti-gay hate crime”

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Washington Blade reports:

“A police report, which lists the incident as an anti-gay hate crime, says Logan Circle resident Robert Richard Brice Kohler told police the incident began about 7 p.m. Wednesday, Feb. 1 while he walked his dog in front of a large row house at 1334 Vermont Ave., N.W.

“Victim 1 was walking his dog near the listed location when he became aware of the presence of Suspect 1 through Suspect 4,” the police report says. “Victim 1 heard Suspect 1 state, “Hey Snowflake! This is what a Trump America looks like, faggot!”

Read more details from the Blade here.

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  • This is bizarre. I lived literally right next door to the house mentioned for three years and never saw any indication of that sort of element in the neighborhood. Quite the opposite if anything. Maybe these “people” came to the neighborhood looking for trouble? Absolutely horrible either way. Hope they get caught and convicted.

    • Ya, I’m thinking this is tourists looking to enter a predominately gay friendly neighborhood and commit a hate crime.

      • Can you imagine this being on your to-do list as a “tourist?”

        • Yes–may be just visiting from manassas, but this falls in a long tradition, including people coming into neighborhoods to bash someone of a different race/ethnicity

    • Huh? 3 years ago? This is clearly an act emboldened by Trump. Not sure what you’re saying unless I’m missing something.

      I live and work nearby and I’m gay and this just makes me want to vomit.

      • I think atlascaesar wasn’t casting doubt on the attack, but was just saying that s/he doubts that it was people from that neighborhood.

        • We should also consider that the new administration coming in probably also brought lots of new staff, etc. and possibly their families. Not that it was anyone like that, but certainly there are more Trump supporters in DC proper than even a few months ago.

      • I read this as a bit of a play on the kinds of responses you see when tragic things happen in “those” neighborhoods.

      • “for three years” does not equal “three years ago”

  • samanda_bynes

    whoa. fucked up if true, but that sentence reads like a r/thathappened” story….skeptical but sympathetic.

  • The next time a high schooler beats up someone, he will shout “make America great again” before he finishes the beating.

  • Considering that Session’s DoJ isn’t really going to be tracking hate crimes as much, I hoped MPD is.

  • really skeptical of this one…

    • +1 – This is a really populated area at 7pm. Something seems off.

    • also a little skeptical….the victim didn’t report it initially to police but instead posted about it on facebook? Maybe if a witness was around, since it was a Wednesday at 7pm in a pretty densely traveled area…

    • It seems tied up a little too neatly, what with the hats, and the specific mention of Trump, and the “snowflake” epithet that I mostly hear from liberals proudly claiming it (usually followed by “winter is coming”).
      I’m sure someone has cameras pointed at that block. They wouldn’t even need to have footage of the attack, just of four white guys and two red hats.

    • Me too. Why did he share it on Facebook but not report it to the police? Why is the photo of his injuries from McPherson Square in the daylight, if the attack happened at Logan Circle after dark? If it’s a photo taken the next day, why are his bruises red instead of purple? Why were there zero witnesses on a weekday at 7pm in one of the most crowded parts of the city? Why did the thugs target a big, middle-aged, white guy with a dog?
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      Just too many things that make me suspicious on this one.

    • I hate myself for joining in on this because I really want to give the benefit of the doubt to the victim, but the injuries in that photo do not appear to be bruises from people throwing things at his face. They look like friction burns — from a fall on concrete or even from an airbag during a vehicle collision.

  • I hope he’s ok

  • There are bad seeds in every crowd. Considering two of the four were 100% wearing red hats, there should be camera footage of them at some point, somewhere.

    • Yeah that wouldn’t be a very common sight in this part of town.

      • Taking this story out of the equation, I can attest that MAGA hats can be found (without irony) in Logan. On Inauguration Day, I was drinking away my sadness in Logan/ Le Dipolmate and a dude rolled into wearing a red MAGA hat. I joked about him to the bartender and she said he (and his party) were regulars there.

  • Yeah put me in the skeptical camp too. It’s all too convenient for political purposes, and the victim only brought it up on Facebook in response to people claiming Trump supporters weren’t acting all that bad.

    While I wouldn’t want to think someone would make up a story like this, I guess that’s better than four people beating up a guy for being gay.

    Hope the guy is okay though, no matter what.

  • northeazy

    The amount of rightful skepticism I see in the comments gives me hope that DC is not totally lost. I am a Trump supporter. And I own a Make America Great Again hat. I never wear it out of fear of being attacked. I can tell you that with the exception of election night and inauguration weekend I have never seen ANYONE wear a MAGA hat in DC. Also–Trump isn’t anti-gay. Hillary did oppose gay marriage as a senator however. Maybe the attackers were former senate staff from Hillary?

    • Who knows what the hell Trump is or isn’t because nothing he says can be trusted. However, supposedly he was set to roll back Obama’s LGBT protections, but Ivanka and Jared talked him out of it. He also surrounds himself with anti-LGBT people! And the Hillary jab–what is your point? My mother was a homophobe until I came out to her as gay. People change. That’s why gay marriage is legally now, not because of Trump or anyone in his camp.

      • Yeah…. about that…. it seems so convenient that Trump’s daughter and whatever her husband is came in as white knights and saved the gays from the evil GOP..
        Doesnt it strike as too good to be true ? If you wanted to prop the Trump family among LGBTQIA+, you wouldnt do otherwise

    • …Trump isn’t anti-gay the same way he is not anti-black. Does he go around spouting hate speech directly at them? Not like he does against latinos and Muslims… But that doesn’t mean he understands or supports them, and he does say ridiculous and insensitive things, demonstrating a complete lack of genuine empathy.
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      And yes, people should be skeptical of the story until it is proven more soundly. But you are fooling yourself if you think the reason for that is Trump is supportive of the LGBT community.

      • This is veering away from the point of this article, but I think it’s naive and foolish to expect support, empathy, or even understanding from your President. The most you should really demand or hope for is tolerance and defense of your civil rights. If a President, or anyone else for that matter, disapproves of your lifestyle, race, gender, whatever, SO WHAT? Fuck that guy. Live your life and don’t let someone else’s bias affect your enjoyment of the world.

        • I don’t personally give a hot donkey turd what Trump disapproves of. Unfortunately, the position he occupies means his disapproval turns into things like gutting protections for trans kids in public schools or appointing justices who don’t agree that LGBT rights are constitutionally based. If you don’t think a president’s disapproval might impact how you live your life, it’s because you have the privilege to live that way and have never been terrified of, say, getting fired from your job or denied housing for being gay.

          • Go ahead and re-read my post, particularly the part where I mention civil rights. That’s the minimum that you should expect, regardless of who the President is or how he personally feels. Additionally, please cite real examples of people you know who have been fired or denied housing because they’re gay. No, Tom Hanks’s character in Philadelphia doesn’t count. If anything, people are fired and ostracized these days for not being in lock-step with the liberal, PC agenda. Stop playing the oppression card.

          • What is actually “naive and foolish” is to think there is no connection between a politician’s support for the LGBT community and that politician’s willingness to defend LGBT rights. In fact, Betty has handily exemplified the connection by denying the existence of housing discrimination and employment discrimination.

      • northeazy

        I said he isn’t “anti-gay,” not necessarily supportive of gay rights. But, for the record, long before he was a candidate, as a New Yorker with a socially Liberal view, he is on the record for supporting gay marriage. And just because you cannot empathize with someone (which is a very high standard since he is not gay nor black–perhaps you meant sympathize?) or even support them, doesn’t mean he is against them. It’s called neutrality . Or indifference. There is a big distinction between being agnostic on gay marriage, and being full blown against. The modern Left has turned anything less than militant support of their issues into hate.

        • FYI – empathy isn’t a difficult concept. a lot of people have it for others. it takes a lot of listening and using some imagination, but it’s definitely not a high standard, more like common human decency.

          • HaileUnlikely

            The two of you are basically arguing about a definition. The original discussion was about something considerably more important.

          • I actually think that the idea of empathy is central to a lot of these issues. The ability for many people to take themselves out of their own shoes/lives and envision what it is truly like to be someone else. it shouldn’t be as difficult as it is for people, and if people (including our current president) took the time to understand each other and have empathy, we would see a lot less of these issues.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I agree that the idea is, but I think what the two of you are arguing about boils down to how one defines and uses the word “empathy.” To be perfectly honest, I think a lot of people often misconstrue what is really sympathy as empathy. What I mean by that is: I can make a good-faith effort to put myself in your shoes, but I don’t and can’t know how closely my attempt to see things that way matches how you actually see them. I think it would be arrogant and presumptuous for me to claim to be able to empathize with a single mom, or an elderly disabled person, or an American-born child of undocumented immigrants who do not speak English. I can make a good-faith effort to try to see things from their perspective, and I can try to appreciate, for example, how my words or the president’s policies affect them differently from how they affect me, but I think it is the height of arrogance to delude myself into thinking my effort to put myself into their shoes was successful. Basically, I think empathy is an important thing, but I think we throw around the word “empathy” too casually. I think it is pretty clear that Trump doesn’t have empathy and more importantly that he doesn’t even try to, but I’m not ready to declare myself empathetic or accept that you are because you say so.

          • DCbyDay, I think you are being too casual with the notion of empathy. It’s not just a simple thing that people can or can’t choose to do, like saying “please” and “thank you”. Some people are very good at empathy and some are terrible. Some people work very hard to be better at it, and some can’t seem to get it no matter how hard they try. It’s kind of like music, or math, or athletics, where everyone has a certain amount of it naturally and an additional potential that they can gain through study and practice.
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            I will also add that having empathy doesn’t magically lead to a world where answers to questions suddenly appear and everyone is happy and content. Genuine disagreements can still exist among people who feel each other quite deeply.

        • For the record, before he was a candidate, he was pro choice and pro immigration. Funny how a man of little integrity can change his tune when it becomes politically expedient.

        • “And just because you cannot empathize with someone (which is a very high standard since he is not gay nor black–perhaps you meant sympathize?)…” Only if you are a sociopath is empathy a high standard. On the other points you raise, Desmond Tutu would certainly disagree.

        • HaileUnlikely

          Honestly I think the argument here about Trump’s position toward gay rights is beside the point. He has emboldened people to bring their prejudices out into the open (whatever said prejudices may be, and whether they are in line with his or not) and act upon them by attacking others (mostly verbally but physically too; recall his instructing the crowd to “rough up” protesters at a couple of his rallies, stating from the podium that he would pay their legal fees, etc)

        • He’s also on record NOT supporting gay marriage – that’s why you should be alarmed you voted for a total joke. sorry, not sorry.

        • I think acceptance of Pence as a running mate automatically makes him now officially anti gay. I don’t think he is. Or abortion. He’s probably caused a few. But he’s an opportunist who emboldens and empowers the ignorant. All of his cabinet picks for social policy agencies are complete bigots – homophobes, racists, religious zealots. And that’s still dangerous if you are in a traditionally marginalized group. Passive acceptance.
          So while as a trump voter you may not have those tendencies, you supported them. And to those marginalized people, it’s the same thing.

          My husband likens it to folks not cooperating with Nazis but having no problem with their neighbors shoved on cattle cars. ‘It’s not me! I don’t technically agree with that’

    • Absurd and idiotic point on LGBT support. Trump had an EO drafted rolling back LGBT protections and didn’t sign it. He didn’t have to – largely because once he signs the upcoming RFRA EO it will be a moot point.

    • I saw a MAGA hat at Solly’s once, right before the election. Nobody bothered him as far as I could tell.

    • Aww, poor baby. It really must be hard to not be able to wear your red hat in public. It’s so-so-so-so similar to being attacked over your race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other thing a person can’t actually hide. Suck it up, buttercup.

    • Poor guy can’t wear his MAGA hat 🙁 🙁

  • Any corroborating evidence?

  • Not surprising half of the commentators don’t believe this actually happened. There is a certain subset of people who respond to hate crimes and sexual assaults the same way- with suspicion towards the victims. Maybe take a minute and think about why doubt is the first thing that came to mind if you’re one of those people. Would you have doubted a report of black males robbing someone if that was posted today?

    • I’m not saying it didn’t happen; it’s just really hard to imagine this scenario at that particular location and time. Change the location and a couple of details and suddenly it seems much more plausible.

      • I’m saying it didn’t happen. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.

        This guy is lying. It is very, very clear.

        I would’ve believed that 4 black teens beat up a gay guy, yeah. But 4 white guys in MAGA hats in Logan Circle at 7 PM and the guy never even filed a police report until the police contacted him based on Facebook posts. Come on, this guy made the whole thing up.

    • Oh, come on. None of the responses on here were knee-jerk, blame-the-victim first. The red flags are undeniable in this crime—a crowded street but no witnesses; no police report but a Facebook post; and the fact that many previously-reported “I was hate-crimed by Trump thugs in red hats!” were later revealed to be hoaxes. So, to answer your question, yes: I’m doubt this report substantially more than I would a report of a robbery happening in a high-crime neighborhood that’s backed by a police report. But for tangible reasons.

      • Excuse me, what hoaxes?

        • “Excuse me, what hoaxes?”
          .
          Google is your friend. Many — most? — of the high profile “Trump” hate crimes accepted unquestionably by the press turned out to be hoaxes.

        • Two separate instances after the election of women in hijabs–one was a college student (if I recall) who was later charged with filing a false police report; the other was a teen in (I think?) New York who admitted she made it up because she was out past curfew. There was a black church fire, that turned out to be lit by a parishioner, and a few days ago, that Muslim college student who vandalized his own dorm room. That’s just off the top of my head.
          .
          I’m not saying this attack didn’t happen. I’m saying there have been a lot of attacks like this that didn’t happen–and, coupled with other red flags, means that people on here are completely justified in being suspicious.

    • Ummm — I look with suspicion b/c the facts here sound entirely made up. Also, our entire justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty, so yes, I’m going to remain skeptical about someone who makes an accusation via Facebook before going to the police — until there proof shows otherwise.

  • FYI This can happen anywhere, yes even here in DC.. they don’t have to be “tourists”…

  • It actually really surprises me that someone who would attack another person with a dog. My dog weighs about 17lbs and is a terrier that would bite the crap out of someone if they laid a hand on me.

    • Yeah, I hate to break this to you, but nobody who might assault you on the street is deterred by your terrier

      • LOL… But I will point out that a savvy criminal would probably avoid anyone with any kind of dog, just to avoid the noise being created that might draw attention. I’m sure there are many criminals that are not that savvy though.

        • Such a misguided assertion. Bad stuff happens all the time to dog owners. The idea that your yorkie is some crime-deterring force field of barks and bites is a really dangerous (to you) attitude.

  • HaileUnlikely

    I will freely admit that I am not highly skilled at assessing the sexual orientation of a person by visual inspection, but I don’t have any idea how somebody who doesn’t live in or frequent the neighborhood and regularly see this guy’s interactions with others could possibly have known or even suspected that this individual was gay. Because he lives in the area and is walking a dog? I don’t want to reflexively disbelieve the account of somebody who claims to have been the target of a hate crime, but in addition to the many other questions raised in other comments, this one perplexes me as well. I’m thinking either the perpetrators live in the neighborhood, or they were going to beat up the first guy they saw without regard to sexual orientation and were using that specific anti-gay slur in this instance as a generalized insult not intended to communicate the perpetrator’s actual belief about the victim’s sexual orientation, ” or some or all elements of this story may have been basically made up.

    • Of all the skepticism this one really makes me go HUH? I have a friend who was assaulted for being gay, in DC, and it was treated as a hate crime. The suspect had no clue who she was, but he assumed she was gay by the way she presented. Some people can “pass” but for many it is very easy to tell.

    • I guess you live in a luxury of not being targeted for sexual orientation. It happens a LOT, even if people don’t think they’re “being gay” ….

  • Poor guy, I feel really sorry for him.

    Maybe it’s a busy street, but there are always times when it’s not.

    Sad to read all the doubters. Sure, we don’t have the entire story, but that is often the case. This isnt a court, it’s a news report.

    • “This isnt a court, it’s a news report.”

      Which is actually why its important to be careful to only report substantiated facts. A retraction is not an appeal, even if you correct an incorrect story later the damage is already done.

      Doubt and skepticism are important. Without it, you get people believing anything they read (like, though I hesitate to even mention it, the idiots who believe Pizzagate). If this story is proven, that is terrible. But it hasn’t been proven yet, and we should push for it to be in order to either discount it if false, or punish the perpetrators if true. But just believing it without proof accomplishes nothing.

  • This is is so obviously fake. How did they know he was gay? Why did no one witness this? He didn’t report it to popo, he just went straight to Facebook.

    And come on, the hats? The line they said? This is fake.

  • Whether this story is completely accurate or not, DONT assume Logan Circle or any other neighborhood in DC is free from trolls like this. I’ve been on U Street where people have shouted “faggot” and when summer interns roll in from all over the country, one time a group entered Nellies and said, “oh this is a fag bar!” …. Still a lot of nonsense in “safe” neighborhoods.

  • Are you you kidding me? Anyone who thinks this is true has no sense.

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