“I wanted to reach out about a dangerous animal on second street”

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“Dear PoPville,

I wanted to reach out to you about a dangerous animal on second street. The other night I was letting my dog out to go the bathroom and we went to the field by second and W st, nw. When we were out there there was a dog that I could not see that was way back in the park. And that dog ran after my dog and viciously attacked my dog Kaiser. I was wondering if we can find any more information about this dog. It’s a black pit bull its owner is an African-American with short dreadlocks about 30 years old. When I confronted the owner about his dangerous animal he told me that I should not be in the field with my dog. That his dog is a dog aggressive dog and I should take my dog to the dog park not the field. I’m in the process of making a report and trying to get this dog removed from the neighborhood. I was wondering if anybody else has dealt with this dog or knows of an incident that happened with their dog with this dog?

Photo of injured pup after the jump.

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  • houseintherear

    Omg Kaiser! That’s awful.

    Fairly sure I know who you are talking about- next time I see him, I’ll try to pinpoint where he lives. Was Kaiser also off-leash? If so, there’s probably not going to be a financial remedy since the field is not an official dog park.

    I stopped going to the Elm St dog park and that field last year when my pup got into a fight (half his fault). I now take him to Crispus Attucks, but it’s not an off-leash dog area so that’s something to consider… it is nice for a bit of socialization even on leash.

  • This really is awful and I feel bad for the dogs. The real problem is not the dog but that people let their dogs off leash. I see it far too often in this neighborhood. Just the other day on S and North Capitol I saw a woman walking her dog off leash, then another off leash dog came bolting from around the corner. They got in a fight right on North Cap! Both could have been killed by a car. Be responsible, people!

    • Yes, you’re not wrong, and I’m guessing the OP will be reevaluating letting Kaiser off, if indeed Kaiser was off-leash. But really, I just can’t understand the other owner at all! Why would he EVER let his dog off-leash in the city if he knows he’s dog-aggressive??

      • Aggressive dogs need exercise too. But their owners have to be diligent and carefully manage risk.

        My dog is intermittently dog aggressive (learned after a lot of dog park visits and work with a trainer). I will occasionally let her run off leash in a field, however…

        I only usually do it late at night when very unlikely that other dogs are out. My dog is well trained to listen to stay commands. If I spot another dog coming, I yell to the owner to wait to take their dog off. I put her back on leash immediately. We leave.

        • angry woof, you’re setting up your dog for failure because as much as we try, dogs don’t always listen. At least put a muzzle on your dog if you’re going to keep letting her off leash to protect other dogs (and the humans who get bit trying to pull the dogs apart). And please let us know which park we should start avoiding…

        • Sorry Angry Wolf — but if your dog-aggressive dog needs exercise too — then you need to get the dog a 16″ or longer leash and not just take the position that your poor dog needs somewhere to roam free. Not in the city. Not with other law-abiding people who have their dogs on leashes who absolutely have the right to expect that they can take their non-aggressive dogs out for a walk without having to wonder about your dog, or any other dog, going into attack mode. Get serious . . . and get responsible!

        • I agree that aggressive dogs need exercise, but that doesn’t mean the owners have a right to let them off leash in areas that are not designated for dogs (even owners of non-aggressive dogs should not be doing this). Your dog can get exercise by you taking him or her for a nice long walk. As an added bonus, you will also get exercise. Win-Win.

      • Totally, didn’t mean to come across as hitting Kaiser’s owner when he’s down. The other owner is definitely the bigger problem. (Imagine if there was a kid in the field!) But I hope this can at least be a lesson to people who walk their dogs off leash … It’s like wearing a seatbelt. You might be a really great driver but there are people out there who are really $h!tty drivers, and all kinds of unpredictable situations, so you still wear a seatbelt.

      • “Why would he EVER let his dog off-leash in the city if he knows he’s dog-aggressive?” Because he’s probably an irresponsible garbage person.

  • Omg, that is so awful. I’m so sorry for Kaiser! Get better soon, pup!

  • General Grant Circle

    Fighting pit dog my assumnption

  • Wait so this guy had his aggressive dog off leash in the fenced in baseball field?

  • I know it’s not an official dog park, but I’ve taken my dog to that baseball field on occasion to let her run around with other dogs, since there’s more room for her to sprint and wear herself out.

    Reading this kind of makes me glad she’s not a self-motivator, since I don’t bother taking her in unless I see other dogs playing with each other. My heart goes out to Kaiser, and I hope he feels better very soon. If I ever see this pit bull and his owner when we’re out walking, I’ll post a reply here.

  • I am a tad torn. There is a difference between an aggressive dog that makes some think of pit bull dog fighting dogs and just dogs that tend to get defense/aggressive with other dogs more generally. If you have the latter, I could totally see going to an otherwise empty fenced area and letting your dog off briefly when empty to get some exercise.

    I do not have an aggressive dog, but am wary of other dogs since my dog is overly playful and will totally run and jump right on another dog to play. Some dogs that are not remotely aggressive do not react well to that. If I was taking my dog to said field and saw someone with a dog off leash, I’d probably confirm that the dog is okay with other dogs before letting mine loose in the same place. There is a presumption that is the case at a dog park, but not anywhere else in my view.

    I have no issues with people who have dog unfriendly dogs finding spaces for quick exercise. The guy should have probably stayed near the entrance to be able to warn people and have time to get his dog under control before others enter. But why you would just assume someone else’s dog is friendly when entering a space not designated for dogs is beyond me. I would say both could share a little blame here. I’m afraid the description of the dog owner here as probably tainted the views of some folks.

    • Is it just me, or does this sound like “When breaking the leash law, keep an eye out for other people who might be breaking the leash law”?

      • Well, yes. My point being it’s a bit hard to say, gosh what an a**hole who let his aggressive dog run loose in a fenced in area when I wanted to illegally do the same thing!

        Granted, as a dog owner, I’ve totally let my dog do that in a fenced in area that wasn’t a dog park. The few times anyone came in to do the same, I quickly leashed my dog until I knew what the demeanor of the other dogs were.

    • HaileUnlikely

      I don’t think we know whether the OP’s dog was on a leash or not – he didn’t say. Obvious validity of “OP should have kept his dog on a leash” assertions notwithstanding, I’m not sure it would have made any difference to the outcome. He stated that the dog that attacked his dog was initially way far back in the park and he did not see it until it started running after his dog. Having your dog on a leash will not magically prevent *another* dog from attacking your dog. Yes, you can pull your dog away, but that’s not too helpful if your dog is already attempting to flee and the attacking dog is faster than your dog.

      • I’m not sure whether OP’s dog was on a leash or not has anything to do with the point I was making either. That the owner of the dog who bit the OP’s dog is to blame here doesn’t negate the argument that using a little common sense to protect your own dog is necessary too. I wouldn’t roll up in an area not designated for dogs and assume any loose dogs in that area are friendly. I’d probably ask first. There’s a reason that person isn’t taking their dog to a regular dog park. Chances are the reason is that dog isn’t good with other dogs. I’m not making a legal argument here, just noting that common sense goes a long way to avoiding incidents even if they aren’t your fault.

        • HaileUnlikely

          Agreed with that, though I’m not sure it was applicable here either. I note, again, that OP said that the dog that ended up attacking his was not in sight at the time when he entered the park, and that he did not see it until it was already charging at his dog.

  • “I’m in the process of making a report and trying to get this dog removed from the neighborhood.” OP, even if you are able to identify this dog and its owner, the likelihood of actually getting it removed from the neighborhood is pretty slim. As I was posting the other week (in response to someone who was worried that “good dogs” might get put down):
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    “This is unlikely. We’ve read on PoPville in the past about how hard it is even to get a dog classified as a ‘dangerous dog,’ even when the dog is demonstrably dangerous — like, it’s bitten multiple people. I get the impression that D.C. almost never puts down dangerous dogs — the closest situation is that an armed police officer encounters a dog that’s apparently dangerous and shoots it.”
    .
    See these three threads:
    http://www.popville.com/2015/08/update-on-dangerous-dog-in-cap-hill-that-bit-a-toddler-and-dog
    http://www.popville.com/2015/06/its-very-important-to-report-aggressive-dogs-and-get-them-taken-off-the-streets-to-prevent-this-kind-of-horrible-tragedy
    http://www.popville.com/2014/07/dear-popville-dangerous-dog-in-cap-hill-attacked-toddler-and-my-dog-but-animal-control-not-doing-anything/
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    … and especially these two comments/mini-discussions within threads:
    http://www.popville.com/2015/08/update-on-dangerous-dog-in-cap-hill-that-bit-a-toddler-and-dog/#comment-1011754
    http://www.popville.com/2015/06/its-very-important-to-report-aggressive-dogs-and-get-them-taken-off-the-streets-to-prevent-this-kind-of-horrible-tragedy/#comment-980462

  • I carry a knife when walking my dog. If your dog attacks my well behaved, non aggressive, dog then your dog might not make it home. Train your dog or keep it at home if it is aggressive.

    • Unfortunately, after being attacked and bitten while walking my leashed dog, and ending up with $4700 medical bills, I also carry either a knife or collapsible baton. I’ll risk the fine over getting bitten again.

  • Dog owners, please do not take your dogs off leash in public parks, even if they are not aggressive. Some people (myself included) are afraid of dogs and do not know how to react when a dog approaches them. I’ve had dogs approach me and my 3 year old several times, mainly at Rock Creek Park and Mitchell Park. You might think you won’t run into anyone at Rock Creek Park, but you never know. Our last incident at RCP happened last week. My son and four other children were playing near the creek when a man and his dog came jogging. The dog, as soon as he saw the children, changed direction and headed towards them. My son, who’s also afraid of dogs off leash, started crying and got really nervous.

  • I think I have seen this guy before , I came across him at Ledroit dog park , he had the nerve to tell me that I had to wait for my dogs to get in the dog park because his dog is very aggressive . I told him why my dogs have to wait and secondly , why are you brining an aggressive dog to a dog park ? Finally he left very unhappy but I wasn’t going to let him get away it .

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