“How about a shame series for people who are still saving parking spots?”

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JNT writes:

“How about a shame series for people who are still saving parking spots? This morning on Montague”

hahaha yes, the grace period for those that give a grace period is definitely over by now!

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  • If I walked by this I would just pick up the buckets and move them out of the way whether I was in need of a parking space or not.

  • There are a few people in my neighborhood who do this year round. When walking the dog, it takes a lot of will power not to take their cones and chuck them in a dumpster. I don’t understand why they can’t understand the fact that they have no right to the street in front of their house (or anywhere for that matter).

    • They don’t understand because they continue to successfully claim parking spaces. Lots of behaviors are annoying. A really small subset are annoying enough to warrant a confrontation.

    • Why don’t you just chuck them? Eventually they’ll get tired of buying new cones….or they’ll just buoy the traffic cone making business.

    • Replace the cones with ones filled with concrete and then watch them struggle to move them. Hopefully that will teach them!

    • When I lived in Bloomingdale my neighbor did this everyday too. No one owns the street.

    • i’m so glad my neighbors don’t do that. completely ridiculous.

      • This is my neighbor. What’s ridiculous is that they didn’t even shovel the spot out. They co-opted someone else’s spot and started reserving it.

  • I Dont Get It

    That looks like a rousing game of “Musical Chairs” (Buckets) is just waiting to happen.

  • Starting last Friday I’ve been actively moving any chairs I see. I leave the ones on my block because the people would know me, but if I see them on other blocks I just pick them up off the street and put them on the sidewalk as I go. I can only hope this has helped free a few blocks of this scourge.

    • Bravo for you. You don’t have enough courage to move them in front of your neighbors but you’ll do it everywhere else. Anonymously. Why are you so scared to do it on your own block? Philosophically that’s where you should be doing it because that’s where it’s really impacting you, right?

      • Perhaps because this completely rational behavior – removing litter on the street (or, if you want to be more charitable, removing chairs of people who want to keep a reserved parking spot 10 DAYS after the last flake of snow has fallen) – has a good chance of being met with retaliation, violent confrontation, vandalism, etc. There’s still the chance of the violent confrontation if seen doing this, of course, but doing it on other blocks minimizes the risk of getting your car keyed or your house trashed. Isn’t that obvious?
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        In any event, anyone removing parking savers this long after a storm is doing the Lord’s work, and I support them completely.

        • HaileUnlikely

          Completely rational? If the thought that the cone-setter might retaliate enters into the decision-making process anywhere, I have a problem with this, as the driver/car who ends up parking in that spot is also a likely target of retaliation. Assuming the cone-setter is not around when somebody took it upon themselves to move the cones, he has no way of knowing that somebody just walked by and moved them, and will probably just assume that the one who parked there was the one who moved them. Thus, if fear of retaliation is regarded as a legitimate reason to do this in one place but not in another, does nobody care that this behavior may set somebody else up to be a completely unsuspecting target of said retaliation? Although I get wanting to take a swipe at somebody who is still trying to reserve their own space almost 2 weeks after the snow, and I get not wanting to make myself a target of retaliation, I think setting up somebody else to be the target of retaliation is even worse than risking becoming the target yourself. “Isn’t that obvious?”

          • justinbc

            I think the remote chance of someone else getting screwed over by a malicious parking hoarder is worth the tradeoff of helping ensure this stupidity of reserving spaces gets ended ASAP.

          • HaileUnlikely

            I agree with that as far as it goes, Justin, but I can’t reconcile it with not having the balls to do it on my own block (where there is a chance that *I* might be retaliated against), only on other blocks, where it is more likely that somebody else will be retaliated against. The probability of any retaliation against anyone is probably roughly independent of whether I remove cones on my block or some other block, thus, if there is any fear of retaliation, doing this on somebody else’s block but not on your own block is basically saying that you don’t care if they retaliate, as long as it is against somebody else and not me.

          • That’s a fair point, but let’s face it, most people eschew confrontation (or at least don’t invite it). If everyone only felt like they could remove chairs from their block, and few people felt comfortable doing that, this idiocy would continue, and perhaps even proliferate. On balance, I agree with Justin.

          • HaileUnlikely

            Not saying there’s anything wrong with *also* doing other blocks, just that I have a problem with the rationale underlying only doing other blocks but not your own.

  • I’ve definitely been stealing cones since about Friday. Does anyone need cones (for reasons other than holding parking spaces)? Because I have a half dozen in the trunk of my car by now.

    • This is amazing.

    • Stealing is a lot more obnoxious, and illegal, than spot saving. And you’re getting cheered on. The future’s so bright I gotta wear shades.

      • Oh, come on. You think those cones weren’t pilfered in the first place from some construction site or road crew? If you think someone who has the temerity to try to reserve a public parking place for himself is going to go out and purchase cones, I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you.

      • Leaving junk on the streets is not stealing. If I leave a chair on the sidewalk / street on a summer day, people would assume it is trash and free to take.

      • Some horribly-behaving person has decided to abandon their unsecured property in a public space in an attempt to claim squatter’s rights on that space. Taking their abandoned private property is not stealing, since they have indeed abandoned it. Note: this is not the same as stealing cars. Cars are meant to be parked there, and are generally secured, and have license plates and such. This is just a random cone or bucket sitting in the street, illegally. Taking them is an ethically right thing to do.

  • I think if they put in the sweat to clear the space of an enormous amount of snow they earn equity in the parking space (some have to clear it more than once thanks to the plows), but only for a limited period of time, one to two days max. That period has long since passed.

    Last few days I’ve been noticing a lot of place-keepers set by the wayside, whether by the owners or by urban guerilla action I don’t know.

  • As I see it, most people looking for parking will not remove cones b/c they fear some sort of retaliation if they do (I’m from the Boston area, so I know). However, suppose the police, when on patrol moved these and they had sticker that said removed by MPD so the cone person knows who did it and does not blame the person parked in “their” spot.

  • It’s silly but I do find it annoying to see people who don’t live on my block parked in front of my house.

    • It’s silly (the cones/buckets/etc for saving parking spots)*

    • It’s extremely silly, and unwarranted. Give up the idea that you have any expectation of sovereignty over public spaces surrounding your home. You do not.

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