Groundhog Day Has Many Elements – Parking Spot Saving Controversy is High on the List

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From Kennedy St, NW by district kate

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12th btw M and N. Not sure if his efforts were respected from Amy

Thanks to all who sent emails about the sign Andrea Noble spotted on Capitol Hill and posted to twitter:

I wonder what happened to that spot in Brightwood

Also Sean reminds folks that you can’t just park next to snowbanks in the middle of the street – from Adams Morgan:

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  • I would consider dumping the snow back in those spots before either of those sign-makers returned, just on general principle.

  • I saw the third pic on twitter earlier today and found it to be unnecessarily aggressive. Why threaten to bury someone’s car if they take a parking spot. The city is never going to recover from this storm is people can’t move/park free through the city without the threat of someone doing physical damage to your vehicle if you park in a certain place. Crazy.

    • justinbc

      People have a hard time dealing with be inconvenienced.

      • Yeah, but did you guys see the Philly vs DC diptych using that pic? The Philly one, as you might expect, is way more aggressive. I don’t think snow is going to cause damage to someone’s vehicle, but I have my doubts that the sign writer is seriously going to follow through on their threat.

  • binntp

    Somebody in my street dug out, and put bungee cords between two snow piles to “mark” their spot. Lo and behold, another car happened to stall out and lose battery power right in front of said reserved spot (and left their car overnight until they could get a jump this morning), thus making it inaccessible to the original driver. Karma bites sometimes.

  • The best way to keep someone else from parking in “your” spot is to leave your car in it. Take the bus, loser. You don’t own the street.

    • The problem is trying to get to work or other places that aren’t public transit accessible. I doubt these people just have cars for fun, and not everyone can spend $300 Ubering around this week.

      • I’d normally agree with Mark but the lack of bus/metro access for the past four days has put a serious damper on the “just don’t drive” option, particularly in neighborhoods without a metro station nearby — a lot of the buses haven’t been running through residential neighborhoods because of the street conditions.

        • Um, you do realize a lot of people have to get to places outside of the District, that don’t even have bus access on a normal day. It doesn’t really matter to me if buses and metro aren’t running– either way I still can’t get to work without a car.

    • THIS +1000

    • “Take the bus loser…” – great advice, since all the bus lines are 100% operational. And everyone lives near a bus line that takes them to their destination. Sheesh

      • How you will get back and forth to work without a car should be something you consider when you choose where you live and/or what job to take. Your car might break down on the sunniest day. There are dozens of non-snow-related reasons that you might not be able to drive to work.

        • If you haven’t noticed, transit-accessible jobs are pretty damn scarce in a lot of fields. Are you saying 20 years ago when I decided to major in engineering I should have taken that into consideration? I chose to live in a walkable neighborhood with access to three metro lines and half a dozen bus lines, but that doesn’t change the fact that all the jobs I’m qualified for are in suburbia.

          • Scrillin

            STEM master race doesn’t afford you the ability to dictate your place of work and salary?

          • SouthwestDC

            Yeah, it’s times like this I wish I’d become a lawyer instead. But I got lucky: though in VA, my job is only about a mile from a metro station.

        • As someone who takes the metro, this year there have been plenty of non-snow-related reasons why I couldn’t get to work, too. There were plenty of metro SNAFUs where I would have been much better off if I owned a car and could have driven.

  • accendo

    If you can’t cope with the challenges of street parking when it snows, pony up for an off street space somewhere and save everyone the whiney, illegal battles.

    • Just make sure that parking spot is not on an alley. I’m hoping I might be able to get my car out this weekend. Fingers crossed for 50 degree temps.

    • I want to do this but I live in a residential area and I don’t think there’s paid off street parking anywhere close by.

    • Except they are saving you from it. It’s this blog that isn’t. If you don’t have a dog in the fight, why take a side?

  • Someone in Boston shot someone else who took “their” spot. It’s stupid really. You can get around just fine without a car for a few days. If you need to have YOUR parking spot, then you should have bought/rented a place that came with an assigned spot. People really suck sometimes.

  • jim_ed

    I really have no problem with people reserving their spots after they’ve spent hours digging them out. Most of my neighbors have reserved theirs on my block, especially since our block in unzoned and thus Maryland commuters will gladly take them so they can park for free and hop on a downtown bus (and yes we’re already working on getting the petition together to get our block changed to zoned parking to prevent this in the future).

    • I can get on board with this. There’s no harm to society in asking people to please not park in the spot you dug out. At the end of the day, someone is probably going to park there, but acting like you’ve endured some lasting harm because someone put up a moderately douchebaggy sign (probably written in a fit of sweat-fueled frustration) is ridiculous. How do people have time to get this angry? If you don’t like it, throw the cone in their yard, send a rage-tweet, and get on with your life.

    • This. My street is a quiet, residential street. Nights and weekends it is full of MD and VA cars who want free parking. I wouldn’t mind if I cleared a spot and one of my neighbors took it but if someone who just wants free parking took it thats different.

  • Just remember, the person who took your spot probably also spent 3 hrs digging out their car to even be able to move it to take your spot. Maybe it’s even just down the block…

    • +1. I spent an hour digging my car out. My neighbor, who had done the same, took my spot when someone took his. I understood, had no animosity, and made extra room to park behind him when I got back home. It’s all part of being a neighbor and not an entitled jerk.

  • Yes, because public transit is so reliable and goes everywhere!

  • People lose their damn minds when it snows. No one owns the street!

  • justinbc

    On Sunday while we were outside shoveling I saw a truck drive by with at least 4, maybe 5, different types of chairs in the back. I’m guessing he was just driving around collecting all this free patio furniture people seem eager to dispose of.

    • That’s amazing.

    • Haha, that’s awesome. Also, is that a microwave in the top pic?

      • I spent the weekend organizing closets and amassing a collection of things I either need to donate or throw away. I’m guessing the microwave was the result of a similar exercise. If anyone needs some random stuff to park in their space I have a lot of things!

        • Good project! There has been a discarded ironing board sitting out front of the dry cleaners across the street for several weeks. Now I’m wondering whether anyone has dug it out of the snow to use as a parking spot placeholder.

    • saf

      I have seen contractor trucks driving around full of chairs. They pull out of a spot, and use the chairs to reserve it.

  • Not that I remotely condone it, but people like you are then also surprised when someone has let all the air out of your tires.

    This is DC. No, you can’t reserve spots but you move the chair someone put there and park in the spot, but I’ve seen many a window get broken, tires flattened, or deep key marks on cars as a result of someone doing it. Do it at your own risk.

  • Maybe the person that took the spot, had their spot taken. So what can you do? It becomes an endless cycle.

  • I saw a lot of the bottom picture around town. What the hell are people thinking? I guess we have this kind of idiocy to thank/blame for the federal government closing again today.

  • If someone has kids and will be gone for an hour to get milk/diapers/whatever, reserving a spot is completely reasonable. A lot of people seem to have reserved a spot and then left for over 24 hours which is completely insane.

    • Tsar of Truxton

      Sorry, but I disagree. I don’t care what your reason for leaving may be. Street parking is public space.

      • justinbc

        Yeah I’m not sure how a potential parker would have any idea what the situation is for the absent car.

        • Although I would be more sympathetic to a sign that said something like “I had to go out to take my 90 year old mother to the doctors. I will return around x:xxpm. Please don’t park in this spot while I am away.” Even if it’s still illegal.

    • I don’t know why getting milk and diapers, which you could have stocked up on ahead of time and could probably do without a car, is more important that going to work, which some people have to do no matter how well they prepare.

      • um, not everyone lives within walking distance of a store and just might have to drive to get milk and diapers. Or medicine they didn’t know they needed, because they weren’t sick last week.

        • My point is that I don’t think anyone is digging out their car to go joyriding. If they need it, they need it. No one’s situation is more deserving than anyone else’s.

        • In that situation you could probably spend $20 on an Uber and make it to the store and back. But you can’t be taking an Uber to work and back every day without it getting extremely expensive.

        • Re: Sheesh. Actually I think some people are joyriding. I saw at least one vehicle pulling snowboarders during the height of the storm on Saturday. That has no relevance to reserving spots other than that some people clearly are pulling out just to drive around for awhile.

  • Sorry, but when my partner returns from 5+ days and counting of serving in the National Guard to dig other people out, he is going to need to park his car somewhere. I know you worked harder than everyone else who had to dig out, and are special, and deserve public space more than anyone else, so we’re really sorry.

    I have a neighbor who pulled savesies after 4 or 5 neighbors pitched in to dig her car out for her. That really rubbed me the wrong way.

  • #NoSavesies

  • I’m seeing on my Facebook that people are reserving spots that they didn’t even dig out. A friend of mine in PG County dug out a spot, went to work, and returned home to find that some random neighbor had reserved it for themselves. Some neighbors, eh?
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    Also, those notes are hilariously passive aggressive. If you’re going to reserve a spot and bother to leave a note, you might as well just straight up threaten damage to the offender’s vehicle. Why pussyfoot around the issue?

  • Snow shoveling is back-breaking work and I appreciate the sweat equity of the person who dug out their car. I would never in my wildest dreams think of taking a spot that someone else dug out and I can’t imagine anyone in my immediate neighborhood doing the same. It may not be legal to reserve a spot on a public road, but I think you’re an asshole for not respecting the work that someone put into digging out that spot that you’re about to park in.

    • I could not agree more. This is not a public space issue, this is an issue of common decency. Judging by the hostility of a lot of the comments above DC sadly seems like exactly the kind of place where drivers might need an explicit reminder. A cleared parking space is a literal monument to the work of another person, if you take it yourself you are the selfish entitled one. The snow will melt, then we can go back to chaos. In the meantime, honor the work of others by not pretending it’s an issue of public space.

    • But where are you supposed to park if you weren’t in the neighborhood when it snowed (IE you were away like one of the above posters) – you live in that neighborhood, you drive home and you have to park somewhere… so what is that person supposed to do? Your equation doesn’t allow for anyone who’s not presently in the neighborhood parking there and that’s just not realistic, sorry.

      • I lived in Fairfax County and was out of town during the 2010 blizzard. Even though I had a reserved spot my lovely neighbors next door piled all their snow into it. My girlfriend came out to yell at them and they just laughed their asses off as her 100-pound self tried to shovel out the pile that was taller than her. I’m so glad we live in DC where people are (usually) more civil.

      • I don’t know… They could dig out another space, which would help the whole block out.

        • justinbc

          I don’t know about your neighborhood, but mine definitely doesn’t have big empty spaces full of snow to be dug out that would otherwise have a car in its place. Parking is usually always in a rotating state of fullness here, so if you leave and someone takes “your” spot, you’ve got to park SOMEWHERE. Unless you’re advocating parking in an illegal space on the street then someone who dug their car out and left is going to lose it.

      • Get out a shovel and dig your own spot. That is an entirely realistic option.

    • HaileUnlikely

      Agreed. I don’t support putting random objects in “your” spot, but I also don’t support availing yourself to a spot that somebody else invested all of the effort in clearing, either, especially in residential neighborhoods. I saw a “neighbor” in my neighborhood yesterday move one of his two cars out of his driveway and park it in a spot just vacated by a 77-year-old neighbor who does not have a driveway, presumably so he and his wife could use either of their two cars later without playing musical cars later (and the hell with their 77-year-old neighbor without his own driveway across the street). I’ll stipulate that it was perfectly legal, but it was a majorly hardcore d*ck thing to do.

      • That could actually be neighbor teamwork. A while back I lived on a residential street with lots of available parking but people would of course park on the few already clean spots. While I would go out for much needed supplies for everyone, one of our neighbors would “hold” our clean spots with their car, switching around as needed. No signs or veiled threats to vehicle damage necessary 🙂

        • HaileUnlikely

          I was present when elderly neighbor returned and found the spot occupied by one of the other neighbor’s two cars that was previously in the driveway, and I assure you that there was no such teamwork going on.

          • Ah, too bad… would have been a nice thing to do for their elderly neighbors and just for the couple of minutes it takes to move around a car!

          • You should talk to the neighbor. I’m sure he’ll be a defensive jerk, but getting called on it may make him less likely to do it next time.

          • HaileUnlikely

            The old guy and 2 or 3 of our other neighbors did go talk to him, and he did move his car. My point was just that it is technically, legally true that the shoveler does not own the space that he has cleared, and that the law allows anybody to park there for any reason or for no reason, but sometimes taking the spot just because you are physically able and legally allowed to do so is nonetheless a sh!tty thing to do.

    • What is up with all this talk of respect? We all need to get through the snowstorm together. Chances are the person parking in an already dug out spot had to dig out another spot to get the car moving in the first place, and perhaps someone else parked in that spot. It is about karma, paying forward and working together to get through an unusual experience. The respect mentioned here is more like a threat.

  • Science has no instruments sensitive enough to measure how quickly people turn into entitled, selfish assholes after a snowstorm.

    • I’m working on a new tool, still in the prototype stage, to measure this very thing. I present you with the “clenchometer”

      • How do I invest? With a name like the “clenchometer,” no business plan or financial statements are required.

    • OTOH, my block really pitched in and did a great job of helping each other out.

      • Good to hear! My neighbors shoveled my corner lot sidewalk when I was stuck out of town this weekend. (I will be buying them steak dinners and/or copious amounts of booze as thanks.)

        I should have said *some* people turn into…

  • Is the DCUSA garage parking open and have spots available? I need to go to DC for work tomorrow, and thinking of just parking in a garage and walking.

    • I walked by there yesterday and Hiatt Place was a mess and basically closed, and they were directing cars to enter the garage from Park Rd. I wasn’t paying attention entirely because I don’t have a car to park but that’s what I gathered.

    • It’s definitely open – you can enter from Park Rd and exit onto Irving. I would expect there are plenty of spaces but you should probably call to check. The garage offered free parking during snow emergency (still in effect) and so the garage may be fuller than usual.

    • I returned from a vacation yesterday (my car was parked at BWI) and was able to park at DCUSA at 1pm. The first level was pretty full, but I was able to score a spot pretty quickly! I entered from Park Road.

  • Wow, so many Type A jerks in DC. I dug my car out and guess what – I have not moved it because I know when I do that spot is free for anyone. Until I have somewhere to go with ample parking, my car will stay in that spot. Simple as that.

    • Then what was the point of digging it out?

      • Right? And for that matter, what’s the point of having a car since you seem to not really need it?

      • I will likely leave the spot tomorrow – I have a parking garage at work. This snow will be on the ground for a long time and I’m sure someone else will appreciate the spot after my car is gone. Other questions?

        • No, that pretty much answers it. And you’re right, someone will absolutely take it and you’ll be digging for another few hours when you get home to find a new spot I’m guessing.

          • Nope. I plan to leave the vehicle in said work garage and Metro until enough snow melts that street parking is again a reasonable expectation. Anything else to add?

          • Then why don’t you just metro in the first place and leave your car in the spot you have already? I mean, you’re basically saying, hey I don’t need to drive to work but I spent 3 hours to clean out my car so that I can take it to work and then let some other person have my spot without doing any of the work. Your prerogative. I’d have just let the car stay put until the snow melted away. To each their own.

          • So how will you get home from work tomorrow, and back the next day? If you don’t actually need your car to get to and from work why didn’t you leave it there Friday night? Just curious.

          • Haha, my thoughts exactly Duponter! Gosh, if I was lucky enough to not need my car to get to work there’s no way I’d be dealing with all this nonsense.

      • So that they could leave if they had to?
        Even when I street parked and didn’t always drive to work, I still dug out in case there was an emergency and I had to get my car out right away (IE taking someone to the hospital, having to go deal with parents, etc). Once the roads are cleared it’s good to have your car ready to go if possible even if you don’t immediately need to…

        • Sure, but TX2DC said he cleared it with no intention of moving it, which we later learned wasn’t the case. It was really the attitude. I cleared my parking spot but don’t you dare think you’re getting it because I’M NOT MOVING. It made no sense really. Then you did a lot of digging for no reason. Why not just let it melt?

          But I take your point. It just wasn’t the one TX2DC seemed to be making here.

          • Hmm, my attiude you say? Okay. Sure.

          • it is common sense to go ahead and dig out the space. Mounds of snow can damage the car. Mounds of snow prevent you from moving the vehicle quickly should an emergency arise. It is interesting how someone here would get criticized for doing the smart, prepared thing. Thinking a few steps ahead in this world is what some call success.

          • And, I might add, snow becomes more dense, heavy and hard as time goes on. It was harder to shovel Sunday than Saturday, Monday than Sunday, Tuesday than Monday. and so on.

      • I dug out my car in anticipation of the street being plowed when I had the day off. I’m not going to wanna do the full dig out after a day’s work. Waiting until the minute I can leave seems silly.

        • But digging before the street is plowed just means you’re digging out twice. I watched my neighbors do this all weekend. Dig out, plow, dig out again.

          Obviously if you’re going to leave, and know you’re going to leave, sure, dig it out. But that isn’t what TX2DC said they were doing.

          • My street is too narrow for big plows, so i can’t get plowed back in by much. A little digging I’m expecting, but much better than buried up to my waist.

    • Nah, just a lot of lawyers and those with lawyer-lite jobs in DC. The biggest industry in DC is rulemaking and interpretation/compliance of those rules.
      It has nothing to do with being Type A.

  • I watched a neighbor dig out his car for at least four hours. So far he hasn’t moved it, but I’m sorry, if he did and some other asshole took it, I’d help him bury the snow back into the spot over the car that took it.

    Everyone is right, it’s public space. And someone can take the spot. But I can also make sure the snow goes back where it was to begin with if you do.

    I moved my car off the street into a garage and I have no plans to dig out a spot for my car because I know very well as soon as I do and then go to get the car to move it into the spot, some lazy jerk will take it for him or herself. And this is precisely why there will be 3+ feet of snow everywhere until it melts. That so many people here seem to think this is rude or aggressive, but shoving your car into a spot you didn’t clear isn’t says a lot about the POP viewership. I encourage you all to try that behavior in some neighborhoods around the city and see what you return to.

    • Because it is so clearly obvious to those searching for parking that the person who dug it out will “be right back” or whatever. To be quite honest, it’s unnerving to realize I’m living in close proximity to people so petty as to invest time and energy in piling snow over someone’s car as some kind of spiteful retaliation. How about we all put on our big boy/girl pants and realize that being part of a community means giving a little while taking a little. It all evens out in the cosmos, and your brave and heroic efforts to remove a modest amount of snow from around your vehicle will be rewarded kindly when the four horsemen storm down from the heavens.

  • RESPECT THE DIBS!

  • For those who have suggested leaving a polite note explaining that you need a spot you cleared for a specific time (ie, “took grandma to the doctor, back at 1 pm”), that won’t work either. I’m trying to get a plumber over to fix a leak but they wouldn’t come yesterday because they couldn’t find parking–turns out someone had parked in the spot I cleared, including a note that it was cleared for the plumber expected between 10 and 2. Cleared out 2 more spots last night–one without a note, one with a second note. Both spots occupied this morning–note has “suck it b!tch” written across it. Cleared a FOURTH spot this morning, left another note, went to get coffee, found person parking in spot. When I asked him if he would be done by noon, he spat on the ground and walked away. These were all metered spots that should not be occupied for more than 2 hours anyway, but all four are still occupied by the cars that parked after I cleared them. Hopefully if the plumber comes, he will be patient enough to let me clear a spot for him while he waits. I’m pretty much at the end of my rope!

    • Bah! I am so sorry….
      Even on a normal day parking in DC is hell (I’ve offered on numerous occasions to walk around and STAND in a spot until the car I’m in can turn around to grab it) — I feel for people going through THIS kind of parking situation (less for those who just decided to take their car out).

    • But everyone here will tell you that you’re stupid for thinking you “own” a spot and the people who ignored your pleas are conducting themselves in a perfectly reasonable manner. Kind of mind blowing really. Somehow YOU turn out the be the selfish entitled person and not the people who basically benefited from your work/effort because no one can depend on the city to actually clear the public parking around here (or the streets for that matter).

      That sucks. I feel you.

      • Thanks, guys. The plumber managed to find his own spot a couple blocks away. When he arrived I wanted to give him a big hug and a kiss, I was so happy to see him! But as he seems to be cut from the same solid, reserved cloth as both Ron Swanson and my favorite uncle, I restrained myself. I hope the rest of the neighborhood enjoys their four cleared spots.

    • BookaholicAnonymous, what a dispiriting story! Glad you finally got the plumber over.

  • A little civility would go a long way. Storms like Snowzilla are extreme situations. While people who “reserve” public street parking deserve tickets, towing, and public tormenting. However, those who do so after digging the spot out for hours do not have an unreasonable claim to dibs.

  • I was just debating how to handle this issue. I am home alone pregnant and with a toddler to care for. I am planning to try to walk my toddler a mile tomorrow to his daycare, so that I can come home and shovel out my car to go buy some items at the store for us. I’m not even going to bother going in to work (fed) because I know digging the car out will take me forever and I have a 30 min driving commute to work on a good day.
    But then I realized, I can trudge through a mile of snow to the daycare, trudge back, shovel for 3-4 hours, and then drive to buy milk then pick up my toddler….and would likely get back home and the spot will be taken. Then I’m stuck in a car with no where to park and a toddler and groceries. I can’t win on this.

    • Are you on a neighborhood list serve or could you contact the neighbors you know and ask for help or tweet the shovel volunteer squad–there are tons of millenials off work today. Someone near you will go to a grocery store today and I’m sure would think it is NBD to get you a few items while they’re there.

    • Uber has a car seat option (though I’m not sure how readily available it is). Could be a viable alternative?

      • SouthwestDC

        So tomorrow morning I need to drop my dog off at the vet for surgery. Normally I’d drive her there, but I don’t want to lose my spot, especially since I have a meeting to rush to right after that. What’s the likelihood of an Uber driver being ok with a smallish dog in the car, or are there any other options? We could walk, but making a sick dog walk a mile and a half in the snow seems cruel.

        • I have asked around and it seems it’s hit or miss with Uber drivers and pets. I know some who have no issues. If your dog can go into a carrier, I would imagine most would happily take you.

        • Is your dog able to fit in a carrier? I’ve taken my cat–in a carrier–in multiple ubers. I’ve never had an issue, but I have always called the uber extra-early, in case the driver objects and I need to call a second uber. Pre-uber, I was also able to take the cat in a cab.

        • Small dog isn’t small enough to carry? Any friends who will drive you?

          There are pet taxis, but they seemed pricy $50 on the one I saw. I ended up just walking to the vet, and my friend picked me up.

        • SouthwestDC

          The only carrier-type thing I have is a crate which is pretty big and unwieldy, though I might be able to fit her in a big tote bag. She’s close to 20 pounds and wiggly so I think I’d have trouble carrying her the whole way.

        • SouthwestDC

          Nevermind, my girlfriend called to say she’s digging the car out so she can get to work tomorrow (she was researching alternative options for getting there but I guess there aren’t any). Problem solved, sort of!

        • Is this essential surgery? If not – did you talk to the vet about re-scheduling?

    • Everyone knows it is stressful to be pregnant with a toddler, especially alone, but we had a good solid five day warning for this storm. Five days. Plenty of time to stock up on milk, diapers, groceries and anything else.

      • While I agree with you that planning was possible, this seems a little harsh. I’d happily go walk a mile to go get her what she needed if I had time and I was her neighbor, because I am a healthy, childfree millennial who has made much dumber misjudgments in my life. I would, however, still move her savesie without a shred of guilt.

        • Harsh? Believe me – I worked really hard to not be harsh! So I won’t even post what else I was thinking about parents – or ANYONE – who could not, with 5 days notice – arrange basic necessities to last a week.

          • HaileUnlikely

            The snowfall ended early Sunday as forecasted. I can’t find fault with somebody who was not here for Snowmageddon not realizing that it might still be difficult to get out on Wednesday, 72 hours after the last snowflake fell, in the nation’s capital. I grew up in Albany – if we got 24 inches of snow between Friday afternoon and Sunday morning, things would have been business as usual by Monday morning, with about a 5% chance of a 2-hour delay for schools and state government at worst. Also, check out the article in today’s Post about the crew from Boston hired to clear the streets in Ward 8. They dominated that sh!t, the way it’s supposed to be done. I realize that you have been in DC for a long time. I’ve been here for a while but less long than you. I don’t have any idea how long nonnyhey has been here. But anyway, unless she’s been here for multiple major snowstorms, I can’t find fault with her apparent failure to wrap her mind around the possibility that it might be borderline infeasible to get to the grocery store more than 72 hours after the last snowflake fell – a fact so absurd that it has to be lived over and over and over again to be grasped.

          • Thank you, Haile! +infinity. It HAS been almost a week since MANY people did their initial pre-storm grocery shopping, by the way. (Just like most of us didn’t want to stand in that 40 minute line at many stores on Thursday night, I’m sure as hell a pregnant woman with a toddler probably didn’t want to, and did the best she could. I’d be happy to give her the benefit of the doubt in this case.)

          • HaileUnlikely & FridayGirl and varios Anons, thanks for the kind words. A neighbor has offered to drive me tomorrow for which I am grateful.
            Given the “concern” noted, rest assured my child would not be going without food or diapers or milk…geez…I was however hoping to pick up some additional milk given my weather ap called for wintry mix and freezing on Thursday and Friday, (this has now changed to just cold) making Wednesday seem like possibly the best day to do so until maybe the weekend as more snow was possible. If I was going to do that, then yes I would probably pick up a few other groceries as well. No one is going without anything. I’m not coming back to this thread because I’m actually really disturbed by the strength of your reaction to my original post and your decision to read in to it the way you did. Thanks again to the other posters for your nice words.

  • gotryit

    Last big snowstorm, I ended up shoveling out 3 spots because people kept parking in the ones I had cleared.

    This time around, I parked in my driveway. It’s a steep slope, and took a lot more effort to clear, but no one else will park in it.

    (this is not a challenge, people)

  • I live in an apartment complex the burbs with non assigned and limited parking. Tons of my neighbors are putting chairs etc in their spots. The ones that don’t have new cars in the spots now. Sucks and I’m not sure what to do when I need to leave tomorrow

  • It seems that these problems (spot that is “yours” because you shoveled it out, not being able to use a car because there won’t be a parking space when you get back to your neighborhood, etc.) would be solved if there was a rule about clearing cars X hours/days after a snowstorm just like we have with sidewalks (which I know isn’t entirely successful, but…). I used to live in the Great White North, and a 24-hour parking limit on most streets (enforced mostly in winter, not so much in summer) made this a non-issue. As someone who would be maximally inconvenienced by this policy (I do have a car that would have to be dug out, but don’t need to drive regularly so could sit back and wait for spring thaw), I’d be all for it.

    • This is the smartest solution to the issue. I’d expect nothing less from the people of the North.
      Ban parking on a particular street during a 24 hour stretch so the plows can get in and push all the snow against the curbs. Makes sense to me.

      • They already do ban parking on particular streets – they are emergency routes and no one can park on them until the emergency has been lifted which is tomorrow at 6:30 PM.

      • This makes a great deal of sense, truthfully. I know that is hard to do in dense residential neighborhoods where there is literally no where for people to move their vehicles in the meantime. But honestly if the block was clear when the plows came through the first few times, there’d be ample parking much more quickly after.

        I still say as a matter of courtesy, I would do my very best not to take a spot someone else dug out, especially during a storm like this where it takes 3 hours to actually clear a car out for some people. Then again, I also paid someone to dig out a spot for my car that I had safely parked in a garage for three days to avoid having to dig it out. And now my car is sitting and not moving until there’s ample parking back around. My guess is that’ll be sometime next week after a string of days above freezing.

        • To clarify, I would not take a freshly dug spot on the day following the snowstorm. Three days later and I kind of feel like it is fair game.

  • This entire thread is 131 posts worth of ridiculous. To those who say it’s rude (or worse) to park in a spot you haven’t cleared… it’s an empty spot. Do I know if you’ve driven off for 5 minutes, 5 hours, or 5 days? Of course not. I am certainly not going to keep circling the block ignoring all the empty parking spots because, gee someone else cleared those.

    To those who think it’s justifiable to vandalize others’ property for a) taking a spot, b) attempting to reserve a spot, c) complaining about others who take a spot/reserve a spot/complain about said activities… I would suggest you have no business living in a densely populated city where, as a matter of course, you must co-exist with large numbers of fellow human beings, all with the same needs, desires, and quirks.

    Finally, quit whining about a single major snowfall and spending “hours” digging out a parking spot. Like you had anything to do last Sunday anyway. First world problems. /rant

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