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  • Will this replace them checking bags/purses?

  • Does anyone know if the Fairgrounds/Bullpen will be open this season? I assume that when the land got sold they got the boot…..

  • Dislike. Unless this replaces the bag check. Why can’t I bring metal to the ballpark anyway? I have lucky railroad spikes.

  • I can’t tell from this photo, but maybe they are temporary to screen attendees for Opening Day when, presumably, an Important Personage will throw out the opening pitch. I know they have increased security at times like that.

    • Nope, they are permanent – some new requirement by MLB or something. This will add a TON of time, especially if they are not set at a very low setting. There are very few stadiums where such a high percentage of people go through one gate, and the lines are already huge for the big games. I strongly, strongly dislike this.

      • Not to imply that these are necessary, but several ballparks have had metal detectors in place for a couple years. Safeco in Seattle also doesn’t have many entrances and I didn’t notice wait times there to be significantly impacted by the additional security screenings. If the line near the metro is bad, I bet a 5 minute walk around to the back of the park will solve your problem.

      • Similar to what they do for NFL games now. Those are locked down like crazy–you can’t even bring in bags larger than a wallet…

        • Are they restricting bags too? The NFL bag policy is completely insane- I’m fairly certain it’s designed to be a ruse to get you to purchase their official clear plastic tote bags.

          • In addition to preventing fans from sneaking in food or beverages, so they have to buy overpriced versions of both inside arenas/stadiums

    • That being said, they do look awful in that location. Not sure why they didn’t blend them in with the structure better.

    • It was mandated that all MLB ballparks have permanent metal detectors by the beginning of this upcoming season. So unfortunately it’s going to be a huge pain in the ass all year around.

  • Have there been any previous incidents to necessitate the metal detectors? This seems like overkill.

  • This has actually been in the works since 2013 when MLB partnered with DHS to increase security across all ballparks. And for what it’s worth, about 66% of major league baseball teams use walk-through metal detectors.

  • Do they understand that the racing presidents are not REAL LIVE presidents?

  • MLB announced a new policy several years ago and gave the teams 2-3 years to phase in metal detectors. The Nats had no choice. They’ve known this was coming and were openly talking about it last year if you asked. It will be a mess, but any anger should be directed at MLB, not at the Nats. For once.

  • Thanks, Obama.

  • west_egg

    The terrorists truly have won.

  • More pointless security theater.

  • I think it’s silly security theater, too, but at least you can still bring in bag/purses unlike the absurd NFL rules.

    • palisades

      Give it a couple years

    • Yes, this. I went to a game at RFK directly from the office, and they wouldn’t let me in with my bag, and they don’t have any lockers. Since my laptop was in my bag, I had no choice but to sell my ticket and head home.

      • Happened to me a number of years ago. I checked the FedEx Field page *thoroughly*, didn’t see any bag restrictions. So I Metro’d to the last Nats game at RFK, then Metro’d to FedEx Field. Where they sprang a no bags policy on me. I was spitting mad. At the same time I saw the most incompetent pat-downs ever: what trained person, or even just someone who’s seen a cop show on TV, doesn’t check waist or ankles for a weapon?!?

        • Went to all the USA games in brazil w/ backpack change of clothes toiletries etc. metal detector goes off… I just keep walking… Lines moved quickly

  • I totally understand the cause for complaint seeing how long this could potentially take for people to get into the stadium. But with that many people in one area, I think metal detectors are even late to the party. Why wait until something happens at an event, rather than preemptively putting them into the stadium. Of course nothing serious has happened at our venues, but what about what happens that time a fight breaks out over drunk fans, and someone pulls a gun. or worse, something planned for a shooting at the ballpark. Its uneasy to read and type about, but its a real threat, and shootings keep happening in this country. Id rather drink another beer in line to get in to walk through the metal detector, than have that be my last beer ever. Its an inconvenience, but show up early, enjoy the time youre there. For it.

    • Scrillin

      It’d be a lot easier if we all just had to go through a metal detector when we leave the house in the morning.

    • Can you drink beer while waiting in line? That seems like it would fall under the illegal public consumption category.

    • Well if that’s the case, clearly the *liability* of a rare, single, isolated case of violence inside the stadium is vastly more important to the league than the actual *safety* of a huge, densely packed crowd forced to wait outside the stadium and presenting the softest of targets. Let’s not pretend this is about concern for any individual’s safety.

      • I think that is exactly why they will have metal detectors… for individuals safety. There is a crowd before every game of any magnitude, it is to keep the ball park safe, the event, and the customers safe. Cant imagine anyone truly opposing metal detectors to go into a game. Every game has a crowd waiting outside to get in. Even before the metal detectors. This may cause a backup, but will keep inside the stadium maybe just a bit safer, which is great in my book

        • If you cared about “individual safety” then you would not create an even bigger herd of densely packed fans waiting at a gate outside the stadium. This is all about financial liability.
          The most effective suicide bombings in Iraq were always at the entrance gates to the Green Zones, where Iraqis had to wait in line in order to enter through multiple layers of security. It causes a backlog of densely packed bodies – perfect for causing maximum damage.

          • If you think that is the case you have truly never been to a professional sports game before – which is fine, not everyone has. But there is a backup to get into every sports game at every venue at any time ever. Even if the game is not sold out. There will always be densely populated areas to get into stadiums, just as there already was at Nats park. We dont even know how long or if the backup will even be increased to get into the stadium . We are speculating on the amount of time. But every stadium or arena has some sort of line, and it is ignorant to think that adding metal detectors is not caring about individual safety.

        • I’m sorry, I just can’t get onboard with it. The more we normalize scanning/searching everyone in every public venue, the more we reinforce the mentality that everyone is suspect until proven otherwise and attack the fabric of civil society. You’re no longer my neighbor–you’re a threat to me until the guy with the badge and the gun examines you. I hate, hate, hate living like this!
          That said, I respect the right of a private business (league/team) to screen out of liability concerns, but at least let’s be honest about the reasons.

        • saf

          “Cant imagine anyone truly opposing metal detectors to go into a game. ”

          Hi. I’m the one you can’t imagine.

    • But you can get shot outside, while waiting in line to get through the metal detector, though.

      And it’ll be easier for the gunman to get away.

      • This is an unbelievably dumb comment. You can get shot anywhere outside. There already is clogging outside of sporting events. We dont even know if this is going to cause a backup or slow the process that much. Everything is speculative right now. But saying you can get shot outside while waiting to get into the stadium because there was a line for the metal detector is your fear, then stay closed off in your house where you belong

        • To say we don’t know if this will slow the process, is to ignore all past experience with changes such as this one. But we do know, because we are reasoning creatures with information with which to make an assessment.

          Throughput = ((# items to throughput) x (time to throughput an item)) / (# processing lines)

          In this case, # items is # people to go to a game. Time to throughput will increase by about 50%, based on past experience with bag check vs. metal detector in stadia. # processing lines is no more than # lines before metal detectors installed, but there may be fewer.

          There, calculation done. Assuming the same number of entrance gates, it will take 50% longer to get the same number of people into the stadium.

    • By that logic, we should all have to wear see-through clothes. Also, the crowd waiting to go through security is, itself, a potential target.

  • I knew it was an MLB requirement but I did not know it was with consult to DHS. Has there ever been an instant where DHS was consulted and they said “you’re good”?

    • DHS and the rest of “security consulting” industry has got to somehow earn their paycheck. The answer is always going to be “MORE” when you’re talking about people’s mortgage payments.

    • Just stay where you are and some agents will be be with you shortly to confirm you’re still good.
      OP Anon is completely right: Our Chicken Little mentality combined with an industry that thrives on FUD is here to stay.

  • I guess I need to find a plastic flask now!

  • This is gobs better than Verizon, where they use a “wand”-style metal detector on every Caps game attendee, which takes forever. I think it will be fine.

  • It will be fine. Went to quite a few games back in Detroit this year including the short-lived playoff series and they already had their detectors installed … did not notice any additional time to get in. Just forces you to switch to a plastic flask … that’s the only downfall!

  • Considering the smoking sections and large parts of the park have only a fairly wide gapped bar fence. I don’t understand how this would really protect anyone if a group of motivated individuals were looking to cause trouble

  • In that case, I hope they also crack down on the annoying preacher guy with the megaphone that stands outside the stadium.

    • here here!

      I’m pretty chill (and don’t yet have children) but I don’t see a man yelling about “Satan’s whores” to be conducive to a “family friendly” environment like a baseball game. Yes, your children should be exposed to all sorts of thing in life so a parent/adult can explain them, but I find him highly unnecessary.

  • I agree with what just about everyone else has said. I don’t think the Nats have done a very good job informing the public about this, so I imagine people will be pretty upset their first time experiencing this, as the lines will probably be super long. I get to the stadium about an hour ahead of game time, anyway, so it won’t be too much of a hassle for me. But, this being DC, a lot of people get to the stadium right when the game is starting. Seems to me like half the crowd isn’t in their seats at first pitch.

    I also like bringing in my own food and water and frequently come right from the office so have a back pack with me (I’m a government employee so would rather go to more games than buy food on my modest salary). I hope they don’t get to the point when I can’t bring a bag in. That would be a serious buzz kill.

  • If MLB really cared public welfare and safety and wanted to make a decision that would actually have a real impact, they’d stop selling alcohol. I shudder to think how many fights, DUIs, and alcohol-related fatalities have occurred from people drinking too much alcohol at a game. Chance of MLB shutting down the booze profit center for the greater good of humanity? Zero.

  • Baseball without beer? Now that is just crazy talk 😉

  • This is to stop people bringing flasks in.

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