2nd Street, NE Pop Up completed and units for Sale

611 2nd St. NE photo 1.21.15

“Dear PoPville,

I recall that months ago you featured an under-construction huge popup at 611 2nd St. NE . . . the one next to Union Veterinary Clinic. I bike by it daily on my way to work and took the attached photo today. As per the sign in front, “4 Designer Condominiums,” 2 bed + 2 bath, starting at $519,000. All things considered, I think it turned out well. I’m curious to read what Popville thinks of it!”

I agree looks much better from this angle. Now what do you think about the price? 🙂

30 Comment

  • justinbc

    Would have to know the size to really judge, but 2 BR 2 BA places right next to the Metro and Hill for 519K seems pretty legit.

  • i think the 519K one is about 850 sq ft, so a bit on the small side, but Beasley does really solid work.

  • Accountering

    I like how it looks. I will say they did a good job here.

  • epric002

    i still don’t like the look of row houses popped up to that height, but if it’s going to happen, this is a not terrible way to do it.

  • It’s okay, although I’d like for the top to be a little more ornate. That said, it blends in with the character of the area and it’s not a cheap job. I think that’s the most important element to these popups, if they do good work or the projects are innovative, few people would have such problems with them.

    • That is what I think. It is just sad that most developers are borderline amateurs and their efforts have given those who do thoughtful pop-us so much trouble.

  • Blithe

    Nice. Very respectful of the original design, proportions, and materials. If it has to happen, this is the way to go.

  • By itself it’s not too bad, but when you look at the row to townhouses it does look out of place. I really hope they pass a law to limit these things.

  • I like it!

  • This mistake made in most pop-up designs is the height of the top floor. I know this is typically to allow for high ceilings in Master Bedrooms, but the effect is top-heavy. By making the top floor equal to the others – without a large dead space between the top of the windows and the cornice area, it would balance the addition much better. This one isn’t horrible, but the proportions could have easily been made a little better.

    • I agree – it seems like it would’ve been relatively easy to fix the odd-looking proportion of the top floor by playing with the cornice.

  • I appreciate that they didn’t use four different colors like so many developers seem to be doing now.

  • Emmaleigh504

    I really like this one. It’s very attractive in context.

  • I like it. I clicked on the previous link and noticed they have a sweet roof deck. I’m curious as to how the top unit is priced and the monthly HOA fee. I look forward to seeing interior photos.

  • an abomination totally out of scale with adjoining properties, though somewhat sensitive to the esthetics.

  • So it was 1,160 sq ft on 1,700 sq ft lot at $646 per sq ft.
    Now it’s 720sq ft for a $549,000 condo which is $762 per sq ft including $190 per month for HOA/Condo fees

    I appreciate that it has attempted to blend more in with neighborhood , but still don’t like it overall and wouldn’t be terribly happy living next to it

    • Why would you not want to live next to it?

      I think it looks great. Hopefully more neighbors build up! Great location, some of the best transit in the city is within a couple blocks.

      • Well first and foremost, have solar panels, so a building that size would impact a large investment not just from myself, but from federal and DC government , so that’s your tax dollars that would be wasted.

        Also having four condos mean you now have four neighbors making noise through the wall, it means more street parking you have to contend for. you also have to hope that the person who built up has made provisions for adequate trash as some other builders don’t, which means possibly more rats/rodents etc

        Also dependent on how far back its been popped, it boxes in the back yard, which could impact peoples gardens. etc

        So yeah, wouldn’t be terribly happy living next to it, because more than just the size of a building imapacts the community

        • Virginia awaits

        • A.J. cites the usual litany of nimby complaints, (parking, noise, trash) which always come down to the simple reality that sharing a neighborhood with more people might require current residents to actually . . . share their neighborhood with more people. The solar panel argument is the strongest and least-selfish-sounding, so nimbys are beginning to lead with that one. (Even if they don’t have their own solar panels installed just yet). But there are other ways to deal with solar panel issues. Calculating a fair annual estimate of the cost of lost solar energy for any house affected would be a good place to start. That will be different for each case but figuring out a formula should be within the capabilities of current science. Compensating neighbors for that cost makes more sense than taking away home owner property development rights for huge areas of the city. In the long term, both pop-up developments and solar panel usage will increase dramatically. Neighborhoods and cities change all the time. The future will be different from the past and the present. Seriously.

          • So you don’t think parking, trash or noise are valid complaints?
            In which case i’d say that you’re too entirely dismissive, rather than actually suggesting any real fixes to what a lot of people, not just me, have issues with, you just cite “things change, deal with it”

            Isn’t it about responsible growth and not just growth for growths sake?
            Surely things like Trash and parking should be accounted for, when it comes to things like street cleaning, or when it snows, parking is squeezed enough, what would you then do if you had a regular street like upshur where rather than having 30 families on the street, you now have 200 families?

            Oh well that’s just living in the city, well that’s a great argument to make but it literally solves nothing and sounds like an argument for arguments sake

            The “Simple” reality is that some of these things, parking, trash, noise are already problems for some people, you wish to turn it in to a problem for everyone and call it progress and affordable housing when these condos are not affordable

            And whats actually offensive to me, is that people cite the “oh well developers can offer retirees and homeowners so much more money than a regular sale” — and you wonder why we don’t have affordable housing?

            When someone who COULD afford the house comes along gets out bid by a contractor? oh but we won’t have to worry about that, they can come back later, save themselves $80k and buy a condo at half the floor space they were about to get before.

            If i actually heard some decent solutions to problems from NADZ people that would be great, but all I see are just dismissives, as if the problems that a large majority of people have with pop-ups don’t exist, and the good old “if you don’t like it then you should get out” — which is ridiculous and is an insult to your own intelligence let alone anyone elses

          • Neighborhoods change, obviously, but that doesn’t mean all change is good.

            When potential residents compete with developers for townhouses, the only ones who win are the developers. Housing values are artificially inflated. DC is having a real boom in property values but is it sustainable or are we just allowing developers to create another real estate bubble? You know they are rarely left holding the bag when the bubble bursts.

            Plus, taking a 1-family home and turning it into a 3- or 4- unit condo building does so little to impact the housing supply. You’re talking a net increase of 2 or 3 units (and small ones, at that) when you need thousands of new inventory units to help stabilize pricing.

            This isn’t smart growth at all. Sadly the conversation always derails with insults like “Nimby” being hurled, and no actual suggestions for a solution other than “keep popping.”

          • I also think the solar panel complaints are a bit odd. A house that used to house 2 people can now house 8. The energy savings associated with density are real, and important, and provide a strong counterweight to any negative environmental impact from blocking solar panels. Especially if the renovation is done responsibly. So once we put aside the environmental argument, we are down to the fact that solar panels are a personal investment with expected cash flows that count on neighbors not exercising their property rights. That becomes a bit of a trickier sell.

          • Agreed, but I’d also point out that there’s a certain hypocrisy in these arguments. The anti-density crowd wants the city to support bigger houses through zoning. They also want the city to support more driving by ensuring that everyone can find an easy place to park, which entails handing over city property at way below market value so that people can put their private property (cars) there. These same people then complain about solar panels, which have far less positive environmental impact than the negative impact of living in a large house and driving around. Dense, transit-oriented development is far more important than solar panels (and as you point out, the two need not even be in opposition).

          • Those aren’t complaints, they are perfectly reasonable issues to raise.

            Regarding your observations that cities change and the future isn’t the same as the past and the present…wow…you come up with those on your own?

  • So funny — I walked by here yesterday and almost sent Popville a photo (I sent photos in on this one months back). From the front, they did a very good job of blending this into the other homes and neighborhood (which is my primary dislike of most popups). From the side, this is way out of proportion to all of the other houses on the block, but I do have to give them kudos for aesthetics. If only other developers would do the same.

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