From the Forum – No Parking Signs outside of Cardozo High School


No Parking Signs outside of Cardozo High School:

“I’m posting this to make others aware of the new no parking signs on Clifton St outside of Cardozo HS, and also ask if/where I can file a complaint about them.

I’ve lived in this neighborhood for 3 years (13th and Clifton), and have never had trouble finding parking. I parked, as usual, in the 1200 block of Clifton outside of Cardozo last week on a Sunday. When I went to use my car 3 days later, I had been ticketed 3 separate times for parking in a restricted zone. At some point between when I parked and when I got the first ticket, the city had posted no parking signs in front of Cardozo, decreasing parking on the street by at least 40%. The entire block is now restricted. To make matters worse, the no parking signs are tiny, do not specify restricted hours, and could be very easily missed by anyone (including those of us who have been residents for a while, apparently). The entire block was parked up by residents, and all of us had multiple tickets.

Anyone know who I can contact to complain about this? Surely we should have been given some notice of the parking changes, and surely the signs could limit parking within school hours, while allowing residents to park over the weekend or in the evenings.”

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  • Just take what you just wrote, put it on a ticket dispute form, and then mail it in or submit it online. Common sense, folks.

    • It might be “common sense” to you — but to those of us who have managed to go years, decades even, without getting a ticket, the information that you provided re: the procedures for disputing a ticket is much appreciated.

  • Fun fact: just because you live on the block, you don’t have an ownership interest in the street or a right to basically-free parking there.

    If you email DDOT, they’ll probably get you an explanation as to why Clifton Street now has Restricted parking (presumably you mean No Parking whatsoever? or is it the 2-hour limit for non-zone cars?) – I’ve found them to be quite responsive in the past. I’d also bet an appeal of the tickets will be successful. But you should lose the attitude that the District’s streets belong to you and your car.

    • Um not sure where the OP comes off as saying the streets belong to them-I’d be upset too if I parked my car for three days (which I do often as I only drive when I need to get to my office in Virginia) and signs were put up restricting the space + allowing me to be ticketed.

      • Pretty sure 72 hours notice is all that’s needed before they start ticketing you. That’s what it is if you’re a private citizen and reserve a spot for moving. It might be even less for a government entity.
        So no, you’re not entitled to leave your car on the street for multiple days without checking on it.

        • Actually, the 72-hour restriction no longer exists.

          • You can’t get a ticket any more for not moving your car every 72 hours, but The OP Anon’s basic point stands, since anyone can put up a no parking sign with 72 hours notice. It just makes sense, then, to check on your car every few days. You don’t have to move it, just check on it.

  • First step is contact you council members office (Jim Graham/Brianne Nadeau) and ask why they change in the parking? Step 2 is contest the ticket, you should got a grace period before they started to ticket. Hopefully you council memeber will be able support you get all the ticket waived.

  • You might also want to take a look at the discussion on the Oct. 28 Random Reader Rant and/or Revel:

  • I live at 13th and Clifton also, and I have to agree with the letter writer. The changing rules for driving and parking in front of Cardozo are more than a small annoyance. In the 6 years I’ve lived at this address, we’ve gone from “Zone 1 parking,” to “Zone 1” with street-cleaning days, (both before Cardozo’s remodel), to no parking at all during the remodel, from a 2-way to a One-way road, to regaining all parking when the remodel ended, to some earlier “no-parking” signs, to the current ones now. Now, before you jump on my back, Kind Internet Commenters, I understand that changing needs means changing signage and restrictions. But NONE of this has ever been done in consultation with the neighbors. New signs pop up, and neighbors get ticketed.

    I just double-checked just now to make sure I was parked okay, and saw the signs the writer was mentioning. They do, in fact, radically change parking on the street; they now say “no parking between 8am-4pm school days” for an enormous swath of the street. If, say, 30 cars could park on the Cardozo side of the street before (a conservative guestimate), now there is only space for maybe 6-8 cars to do so. This has a serious impact on parking in an already difficult area.

    Also, I can’t see the need for them to block off so much space. Most kids walk to the school, so it’s not like there’s an endless train of parents dropping their kids off in the mornings. A much smaller “no parking” zone could accommodate the few who do and whatever emergency needs the school might have. As it is, they have almost the entirety of two blocks of Clifton between 13th and 11th blocked off. I don’t know of any other school in the area with similar restrictions.

    Ugh, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m crossing my fingers for yet another signage change on Clifton.

    • Are these the signs with the black borders? They are going up near schools all over the city. There’s a middle school on my corner and they put these signs on my street and on the major commercial thoroughfare that’s perpendicular. But, of course, when I get home half of the parents aren’t using them and are blocking the one way street while they wait for their backpack toting kid and all his friends to pile in the car.
      DC has not come up with a comprehensive parking plan yet. I completely agree that residents do not own the street and that we pay a pittance for the square footage our cars take up, but I also think it’s strange that the city is encouraging parents to drop off their kids by car.

      • Does the city have public school buses? I’ve seen buses for private use, and for handicapped use, but normally I see schoolkids on other forms of public transportation…

        • No, DC does not have school buses except for children with special needs. We used to have to pay $24/month/kid for Metro passes, but I think they’re free now. So if you live out of zone, driving may be a better option than Metro.

        • The only kids who take a yellow school bus every day in DC are disabled children who have transportation orders in their IEPs.

    • Many schools have these. As a ward 1 DCPS parent and future Cardozo parent I support this new parking restriction. The spaces in front of a school should be reserved on school days.

  • If this somehow signals the opening of the pool to the public, then I’m in favor.

  • Jeslett you definitely do not have kids. I don’t think its that the city is encouraging it, but the parents are doing it anyway, and blocking up thru traffic in multiple directions because they are usually too lazy/late to work to park and walk a block or two. Unless you are going to a walkable neighborhood school (fewer and fewer these days with charters and out of boundary enrollment), are broke-ass and have to take public transport everywhere (try it after getting a kid out of bed, dressed, fed and out the door in the rain, and now make it to work on time) or one of those crazy NY transplants who endangers their kids lives by hauling them in a trailer on DC streets, that’s pretty much every parent in DC.
    If you moved next door to a high school three years ago, you don’t to complain when parents are driving to your block. If you moved there before the school was built, well then maybe.

  • Check your tickets to see if the issuing officer specified the dates and times for which the parking ban was in force for that street. It is a requirement to provide that information on tickets for parking in Emergency No parking segments of the street. If that information is not present on the tickets, challenge the ticket in person at the 301 C Street NW facility.

    • If I’m understanding what’s going on correctly, these aren’t Emergency No Parking signs. They’re the new(ish) permanent signs that are going up in front of most, if not all, DC public schools.

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