Reader Reports Gunshots near Logan Circle around 1:10pm


UPDATE: @HCurryDC tweets us:

“Time was closer to 1:10pm when I heard 5 shots. Ran across street from 14th&R & tried to whistle down a cop but no luck.”

@ADigitalNative tweets us:

“I can confirm. Cars were damaged but no one hurt.. R is closed between 14th & 15th”

@nancyprager tweets us the photo above from R and Johnson Ave, NW around 1:45pm Sunday afternoon. Another reader tweets:

“My friend was over there & heard what she thought were 5 gunshots…”

Updates when more info is known.

Another photo of the scene tweeted to us by @ListentoWinston around 2:20pm:


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  • So, will this incident show anywhere on official stats/twitters/newspapers? Or like that huge melter before Easter Monday will it be ignored by MPD?

    Thanks popville for the coverage.

    • It all depends on how much MPD feels they need to manipulate crime stats on this particular day.

      • Agreed. It is amazing what doesn’t officially get “reported”. Cops are worried about their jobs. The residents obviously feel an increase in crime and lack of personal safety, but the cops don’t want that reflected in the stats. Then that might actually mean chances would be made. Heaven forbid! Elected officials don’t necessarily mind either because they can claim crime is down as well. Thanks to PoP and other media sources for calling attention to this stuff. Eventually, the pressure will build they will be forced to be more aggressive combatting crime in DC.

        • Do you read the crime reports? I have called 911 more times than I can count and have never failed to find the incident I called in reported in the next day’s email.

        • Having worked in both DC and NYC as a police officer, I wish you would understand how much more this city does with the limited resources it has. Shotspotter is an amazing tool that allows us to find shootings much faster than we ever could have in NYC.

          Also DC actually mandates a report for “Sounds of Gunshots” which NYC does not do. All of these reports are kept and reviewed. And trust me, cops don’t care about the stats. If there is stat manipulation, which I saw in NYC a lot, then it’s done at a Lt. or above level.

          But most importantly, what would you have the police do? Seriously. Given the constraints of the Constitution regarding searches, how would you stop a guy in a car from shooting at someone else? Because the response is set. 911 call is placed or a Shotspotter hit comes in and cars are dispatched and they look for evidence of a shooting and then take it from there. But what can MPD do to prevent this crime from happening in the first place?

          • I would be curious to hear your take on this situation. I witnessed the shooting at 12th and G last night. One of the police officers who showed up asked a neighbor and I why we would ever want to live in a neighborhood where we might be shot. I understand that you realistically can’t prevent all of these crimes from occurring, but shouldn’t that be the goal rather than telling the law abiding citizens to move?

          • +1. Thanks for this and what you do/did. People are too tough on MPD, which is an excellent department, all in all.

          • I already posted this once, but it isn’t showing up. Excuse the double post if it does.
            Upon witnessing last night’s 12th and G shooting, one of the responding police officers asked a neighbor and I why we would ever want to live in a neighborhood where we might get shot.
            I know you can’t be expected to prevent everything, but should that not be the ultimate goal rather than encouraging the law abiding citizens to move? (I also understand that his stance doesn’t reflect the rest of the department)

          • Thank you for your service. But since you asked…

            (1) enforce minor quality of life issues. Write tickets for drinking out of paper bags. Write tickets for smoking weed on the sidewalk. Enforce noise ordinances. All of these enforcement tactics are perfectly appropriate, and have no Constitutional prohibitions. The folks who are committing the small crimes are also likely to be the ones committing the big ones. Get in their faces and communicate (politely) that DC doesn’t tolerate law breaking. Encourage them to move along, or move inside.

            (2) Get out of the cars and onto the sidewalks. Why not have one officer walk around that block 24/7? That would be proactive policing, rather than reactive policing. It might not prevent a shooting, but it would at least make it much harder.

          • I think that one only has to look at what other cities are doing to combat crime. For those of us that live in the neighborhood, we consistently see the same houses running drugs or prostitutes. The same corners being used to sell drugs. This leads to violence. If crime is occurring in the same places, why are there not special task forces or proactive steps being taken to infiltrate and/or arrest these people? I agree with you that the MPD does not have enough resources. However, in just my area alone, I see cops respond and then act disinterested or like its a waste of time to investigate a crime. Great, I applaud the cops for responding to gun shots fast, but what are we doing as a city to prevent the gun shots from happening in the first place?

          • What are the other cities doing to combat crime? Why would you lead with that and go nowhere near following up on it?

          • justinbc

            “Upon witnessing last night’s 12th and G shooting, one of the responding police officers asked a neighbor and I why we would ever want to live in a neighborhood where we might get shot.”
            What? Isn’t that basically any neighborhood in DC?

          • Thanks for your response. Those of us who have been bullied by MPD out of reporting a crime have reasons to suspect not everything is being reported, though.

          • “The folks who are committing the small crimes are also likely to be the ones committing the big ones.”

            ^ Stop repeating this fallacy unless you have data to back it up, which you don’t. And the people committing “big crimes” are in the upper floors of office buildings on K Street.

          • They could start by busting all the guys smoking pot, shooting craps, and selling drugs in front of 1416-1426 and on the corner of R and Johnson. They could actually use the security footage on that MPD camera across the street as evidence. They could patrol the block on foot. That’d be great.

          • 10:18: Thanks. I agree that my colleague’s advice wasn’t that helpful. I can only say that for most officers on patrol (the largest part of the force) they only see the 10% of people that cause 90% of the problems and they can then take it out on people. In the Academy they teach you that even though it’s the 250th time you’ve been asked for directions that shift, its the first time THAT person is asking you. And while we know all this, it can come off differently. So sorry.

            11:04: So certainly quality of life issues can help. The Broken Windows theory and all that. The basic idea being that people who drink in public or urinate in alleys might also have other criminal issues, which can be addressed. Usually though, they have a warrant out due to a previous quality of life charge, so it’s not really fixing the problem per se. Especially if they’re undomiciled or homeless. Then you just end up pushing the problem from place to place.

            As for the officers walking the beat, this is a good suggestion. Bikes are better because they allow you to cover a larger area. There’s simply not enough officers to put on single blocks. It also puts them at a disadvantage if they need to respond to a call 5 blocks away. You can talk to the District about getting increased patrols on bike/Segway.

            10:06AM: Sorry to hear you’ve been dissuaded from reporting a crime. Was it an actual crime or did you want a miscellaneous report? For future reference, you can use the self-reporting tool that MPD has.

          • Anon MPD: I just want to add another thank you for everything that you do. You deserve more support from the city.

      • Justin- My response to him was just that. Not everyone wants to move out to the suburbs as he said that he did, and the reality is that this area has significantly lower crime rates than similar areas such as Columbia Heights, Shaw, Bloomingdale, etc.

  • We’re right back to where we were last September with these shootings– in the same blocks, too. When will MPD do something significant about this? FFS, it was a Sunday afternoon!

  • of course it’s on this block

    until those houses go there will always be crime

  • Any word from Bowser or Catania on the rising violence in the city?



    • *Rising* violence? You must have forgotten what 14th and R looked like 10 years ago.

    • Would you really feel better if they said something?

      • I *do* want to hear what they want to say. Not to “feel better” but to know that at least one of these candidates gives a damn about it. I care a lot more about crime than I do about affordable housing.

        It’s one thing to be cynical about ineffective politicians, it’s another to be cynical towards those citizens that want to see those politicians engaged.

    • eh, while crime is technically higher this year than last year, it’s not as bad as it was. That being said, nobody wants to go back to the “good old days” of 90’s DC crime rates. If there’s a clear trend developing, I’d be interested to hear what the candidates have to say about it, if nothing else to know that it’s on their radar.

  • Guns are dangerous, but let’s keep things in perspective. Aggressive and unsafe driving is far more common around this part of Logan. And motorized vehicles can be just as deadly. I live a few blocks south of where the shooting happened, and I am much more anxious about cars than guns.

  • Too many shootings. I posted in the H Street shooting post comments about another one at 12th and G last night, and then just heard 10+ gun shots an hour ago. Saw on DC Alerts that it was the 600 block of 21st St NE (if it was the same one that I heard). Excuse me while I hibernate until the weather gets bad again.

  • A newcomer to DC thinks “were those gunshots?” After a while, counting the shots is second nature.

  • Lived in the area for a number of years and that is the single block I specifically avoid walking on, whether it be day or night, except yesterday when seeing the block was full of police.

    • you aren’t likely to get shot. these aren’t random shootings. they’re definitely targeting the rival drug sellers…

  • The building which was shot at (yes the perps are not only violent but stupid) is one of two on block managed by a company which refuses to implement anything which might stop the criminals who live there from either moving out or changing their behavior. So the two buildings are a home for drug production, sales, guns and – surprise surprise – are the targets for almost all the shootings which have occurred on this block. The buildings’ owner is overseas so doesn’t care, except to collect the HUD money he gets from renting out his buildings. Until HUD makes owners and managers accountable nothing will change. Oh, and let’s not forget about the groups of people who stand outside the buildings on these blocks partying until 3am most nights of the week. How about a loitering law?

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