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  • oh, wow

    didnt know they were going that big on that site

  • Black Oak Canteen is wayyy overpriced and the service is terrible.

    • And I can’t believe a place with Canteen in its name would serve small plates! So terrible. Not in the spirit of canteens where I grew up!

  • I wonder how long it’ll take those residents to complain about the 9:30 Club and the patrons/noise…

  • Yeah! Looks great, hurry up and build it!

  • Looks great. Hopefully the surrounding blocks will rise to this standard. (Ahem, Howard…)

  • Truly love this. Thank you, developers, for having a vision and not just doing cookie cutter buildings. I think I prefer the black I-beams on the left to the rusty cross-bars, but hey, it’s your vision.

  • Int’l style architecture looks a lot better when its not occupied but I love the design. Way better than the brick-heavy designs closer to me on 14th street. Can not wait to go to the movies within (ahem)walking distance.

  • That is going to be one handsome building. Looking forward to it.

  • So will this development actually be called Atlantic Plumbing, or are you just calling it that because Atlantic Plumbing used to be on that site?

  • Wow. This is amazing. I live up in CoHi… Just a quick jaunt down Sherman Av and Im there. Psyched!!!

  • Love the way these look!

  • Oh good now all of the parking by 930 will go away.

    • if only there were other ways to get there.

      • Actual LOL. :)

      • Right? I fail to be moved ever by people on here complaining about parking. You live in a city. Sell your car. I did it years ago and it’s lovely. Avoiding DC DMV alone made it worth it.

        • because the 930 never draws in out of towners….

          • It’s within, like, five blocks of two Metro stops.

          • and out of towners never metro.

          • because people really want to metro from northen maryland and from places like manassas, you guys are aware that some people that go to concerts live nowhere near a metro station right?

          • You’re supposed to drive to the furthest-out station, park, and metro in. Somehow all these people manage to do it when they go to work every day!

          • “because people really want to metro from northen maryland and from places like manassas,”
            .
            I’m sorry. That sucks.

          • Yes, and I’m also aware that people who live in the suburbs are not entitled to parking spaces simply because they own a car and don’t want to take other forms of transportation. Stop complaining about your minor inconveniences from major redevelopments in a neighborhood in which you do not live. Also, I’m pretty sure there will be an available parking lot, even for Manassas residents.

          • @Anonymous 4:00. Dear Lord. Public policy isn’t and shouldn’t be made to cater to the few hundred (or thousand — who cares, really?) people per year who live in the outer reaches of the area and who want to drive to attend shows at 9:30. You want easier access to what the city offers? Move closer, or do what millions of tourists do every year when visiting this city: make satisfactory transportation arrangements on your own dime and on your own initiative.

          • People who prefer to drive in from out of town (rather than driving to the nearest Metro) have the option of paying to park in the lot behind the 9:30 Club (they can even purchase parking in advance online), paying to park in a pay lot nearby (if there are any pay lots remaining — I have trouble remembering), or taking their chances on finding street parking.
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            There is no God-given right to street parking in what is now a busy commercial area.

        • “because people really want to metro from northen maryland and from places like manassas, you guys are aware that some people that go to concerts live nowhere near a metro station right?”

          i’m aware of that.
          so?

      • hilarious

    • I see a parking lot behind the 9:30 club in that second rendering

    • My thought EXACTLY.

  • This is the nicest new development I have seen in a long time. Absolutely stunning design. Howard U should hire these developers for their town center. When will we hear about how much the condos will go for and when they will start selling, I am seriously considering buying into this place, hoping that the interiors will be just as stunning as the exterior design.

  • For U Street & Shaw …

    … A loud and widely exclaimed: Whaa-hoooo!

  • Both these developments look amazing. Any word on when ground breaking will take place?

    Also, the more uniform, dark I-beam building reminds me of level one of brickbreaker on my old blue blackberry!

  • I feel smaller already.

  • What’s with the yuppie bourgeois obsession with referencing the blue collar/industrial past of spaces that house re-purposed developments? This place is going to be filled with lawyers who couldn’t operate a plumber’s wrench if their 1L grades depended on it.

    • It’s so our help feels more at home when they come to clean up after us.

    • I believe your assertion is may be a bit fragile. To enjoy the art of design and architecture and the fruits of this teamwork to make “new to look old” (as well as “old to look new”), is just that – Art; and further – “beauty”. In this instance to “house a re-purposed development” provides a historical and cultural basis for this great thing called the Renaissance of the American city.

    • Probably to avoid complaints that these bourgeois yuppies are bastardizing the history of the neighborhoods they are redeveloping. I guess they’re in a no-win situation, except that they have enough money to redevelop entire neighborhoods that have fallen into disrepair after years of neglect.

    • i blame sesame street.

    • Probably because a lot of us grew up in or near blue collar industrial areas. Nothing wrong with a little nostalgia for home.

      • i did. and in fact i’m not a yuppie, but a person that works with their hands for a living. i like architecture reminiscent of industry.

    • It’s a reference/homage to the building that was there first: ATLANTIC PLUMBING. what’s with all the ‘tude?

  • I assume the first picture shows the side of the building that borders Georgia/7th? Just what is that ugly-ass building with the big antennae? I’ve walked past it so many times and can’t figure out what it is, other than a street-deadening eyesore.

  • Does the 9:30 Club own their building? If not, I can imagine that the clock is ticking on their time in the neighborhood.

    • I believe they own it. (Thank God.)

    • I’m nervous about this as well. I fear noise complaints might force a move.

      • I would hope the city recognizes that 9:30 Club establishing itself in that area back in the late 90’s is a large part of why these buildings even exist and why local businesses have been able to succeed in the area.

      • If noise complaints don’t do it, the value of the property could. It is not hard to imagine another building similar to the one picture above sitting on the land now occupied by the 9:30 and its parking lot. If the price is right, a good businessman would sell the land and open elsewhere. (Like next to the Birchmere and put those creeps out of business.)

        • I believe the parking lot is owned by Howard and the 9:30 leases it (or something along those lines) for the evenings.
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          What’s much more likely to happen is that Howard will sell (or develop) the land it currently uses as parking lots and/or the dilapidated, unoccupied buildings it owns on the northwest corner of Georgia and V Street.

    • Not only do they own it they have the best cooperate names ever, the building is owned by: ITS MINE NOW LLC and I think the business is incorporated as 50 Turkeys LLC

    • They might own it, but anybody in tune with reality realizes that their days at that address are numbered. I give them five years, max.

      • Why would their days be numbered? They have no need to sell, and acquiring a comparable facility now would cost significantly more than it cost them to acquire the WUST facility.

        • Agreed. My understanding of Seth’s business model (and it’s a VERY limited understanding) is that the club itself doesn’t make a lot of money. However, he’s invested enough in it and the club has a good enough reputation nationwide that bands want to play there. When they do, they experience a great sound system, sight lines, staff, etc. Later, if that band becomes bigger, the hope is that they’ll use one of his other companies to promote them in a bigger venue (DAR, Verizon Center, MPP — which he manages now). I think that’s where the real money is, and acquiring a new property for the club would probably throw the club’s financial balance out of whack.

  • I get held up at gunpoint outside Atlantic Plumbing after a show a few years back. Don’t see that happening as much with the foot traffic this will bring.

  • This city is looking more and more like Disney World every single day. Not a total complaint since i love Disney World, but wow, what a difference…

  • Gee, I guess the 930 Club’s thugs won’t come out and assault people for walking that alley during a show anymore, like they did to me…

  • No, Saf, am very white, as were the three thugs, who seemed to think they had the right to control who walked the alley. What is a Crusty?

    • so they just attacked you? unprovoked?
      whoa! im sorry. did you call the police? i would call the press too. thats entirely screwed up.

  • RIP 9:30 Club.

    • It’s all very well and good for the hipster homies to bash us suburbanites who drive into DC, park, and spend our money at local businesses, e.g. the 9:30, DC9, and the Black Cat. I suppose its standard for local governments (not just D.C.) to say that if there is a metro stop nearby, access is, by definition, “convenient by public transportation”. The reality is that if it takes 2 or 3 times as long to get somewhere on public transportation, or costs twice as much to go to a show because of parking expenses, a certain percentage of the clientele of such establishments will stop going to shows, or will go less frequently. Presumably, the many, mostly Anonymous, people who are salivating above at the building rendering, will pick up the slack, along with a fresh batch of unicycle-riding hipsters. It is also fair for me to say that my lifestyle will suffer, as I can’t afford to live downtown, and Mommy and Daddy aren’t going to pick up the bill to allow me to do so. C’est la vie.

      • It’s also fair to say that suburbanites attending shows at 9:30, DC9 and Black Cat don’t bring in as much tax revenue as they might think they do and therefore have an inflated sense of their value to the the city and its residents.

        • If what you say it true, then D.C. won’t miss us one bit. I guess time will tell.

          • Us? You have a union now? OK, let’s pretend for a minute that you can speak for, say, 1000 people who live in the outer suburbs and who would stop coming to shows at 9:30 altogether if easy and free parking weren’t available. Let’s further assume that each of you had been going to the club twice a month and had 5 beers each time (and you really shouldn’t — you’re driving, remember?) The sales tax on those beers amounts to about $100,000 per year, and let’s now double it to include the tax on tickets, food, etc. So the city would be foregoing $200,000/year by pissing off these people — who don’t vote in DC, by the way. In exchange they get a development that could bring in a ton more than that in the form of income tax on the new residents, sales tax from the theater and other businesses, and increased property tax on an enhanced parcel. Easy decision to make. Nothing personal — just business.

          • Anon (1:23), I actually almost rose to the bait and started to compose a response. But it is never advisable to get in a pissing match with a skunk, and you have proven yourself to be a skunk.

            I will say in conclusion only that I do not drink 5 beers and drive. I rarely drink 1 beer if I’m driving. I still remember the DC cop a few years ago who stopped a woman who had consumed 2 glasses of wine, handcuffed her to a parking meter, and left her there at 1:00 in the morning. But perhaps she was not a DC resident, didn’t vote in DC, and was just one of those people who “aren’t a constituency worth worrying about”. Reading what you say, I guess that’s the DC resident mentality.

        • Actually, allow me to qualify that: Suburbanites who attend shows at those venues and who might choose to attend fewer shows if their demands for free and easy parking aren’t met aren’t a constituency worth worrying about. Go to fewer shows, if that’s what you want. Neither the District nor its residents will feel your absence. It reminds me of an email exchange that made the rounds a few years ago, in which a MD commuter browbeat David Catania over some issue with DC roads or road construction. Catania responded more or less with “I don’t care what you think.”

          • The lot behind 9:30 is well-lit and staffed for every show. I think it costs $12, so it’s very rarely going to actually “double” the cost of going to shows. The days of 9:30 having multiple $10-$12 shows a week (which was pretty typical even as recently as 7-8 years ago) are pretty well past. Now you’re looking at $20-$35 before fees for regular gigs.

            When that lot fills up for sold out shows, aren’t there also garages on U?

          • As I said above, if what you say it true, then D.C. won’t miss us one bit. Apparently, you are in love with your own ranting and can’t be bothered to actually read what anyone says in reply.

            As for your statement that “the District nor its residents will feel your absence” and your quote “I don’t care what you think.”, I recall news stories about businesses in DC feeling the absence of much of its usual clientele during the government shutdown. But maybe you are right, nobody in the city government could care less about non-residents who spend money in DC, because we can’t vote for them. It’s sort of analogous to DC having no voting representation in the U.S. Congress – you can’t vote for them, so they don’t care what YOU think.

          • Um, no. Not analogous. It would be like the governor of Maryland telling a resident of DC that the DC resident’s views on MD policy are irrelevant. Which they are.

            And if you think that a government shutdown that affected the income of millions of people in the area is just like taking away free street parking around a single music venue then you’re beyond reasoning.

          • People who are dead set on driving will still be able to drive. They’ll just have to pay to park, and if/when Howard sells/develops the lot behind the 9:30 club, they might have to park further away. It’s not like D.C. made Ward 1 a giant pedestrian-only zone or something.
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            The U Street corridor used to be an area where it was easy to find free street parking at night — sometimes even on U Street itself! But times have changed, and the area has become more built-up. Free street parking is now next to impossible to find on weekends, and much more competitive than it used to be on weeknights. That’s the breaks.

  • or you could just move to baltimore like all of us that hung out at the Cap Ballroom and 930 in the 90’s
    fraction of the price, better venues and shows, and more like DC USED to be

    • Well, my wife has suggested that, but I work in DC, so it would be a long commute. The Ottobar is pretty nice, though, sort of like the 9:30 in the ’80’s but without The Smell.

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