Props to the Cops and Props to One Seriously Badass Woman

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From MPD:

“This afternoon [Tuesday], at approximately 3:30 pm, a woman was walking in the 6200 block of 2nd Street, NW when she was approached from behind by a suspect who raised a knife to her and demanded her cell phone. The woman reacted by immediately trying to grab the knife away from the suspect. She was able to get control of the knife and she then used it to defend herself and repel the suspect. The suspect fled on foot and was apprehended by Fourth District officers some blocks away, having sustained significant injuries. The woman suffered minor injuries as she fought to defend herself from the suspect.”

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  • oh right near my house, how lovely

  • Jesus, don’t grab the knife, give them your shit. You’re gonna get yourself stabbed.

  • does badass = stupid? Because my reading of this is that a woman risked her life over a cell phone.

    • Yes, some people are heros. Others sit on the sideline whimpering about how they are too smart to defend even themselves.

    • Yes, some people are heroes. Others sit on the sideline whimpering about how they are too smart to defend even themselves.

      • I’ll admit, the cell phone does now have a new hero. It’s probably calling all its cell phone friends, tablet relatives, and its beeper grandpa to tell everyone what an amazing owner it has and how it was saved from an armed mugger.

        And now, back to reality.

    • My reading says this woman clearly knew WTF she was about and probably had quite a bit of hand to hand combat training.

      • Emmaleigh504

        I hope so! I don’t think most people should go around disarming muggers over phones, unless they want a cool story/scar.

    • The cool thing is that it’s totally possible for two different people to have two different sets of values and react differently in the same situation.

    • There are loads of people who have gotten shot or stabbed after giving up their stuff. If someone pulls out on you and you’re confident that you can disarm them, go for it. Better you decide how a weapon gets used than your assailant.

  • IMHO I don’t think it’s a good idea to advertise/glorify fighting back against muggers. Glad it worked out in this instance though.

    • Is that what’s happening? Because I think whether “badass” is a positive or negative superlative depends on one’s point of view…

  • Silly rabbit, bringing a knife to a getting-your-a$$-kicking.

    This kinda sounds like it just might be the 2013 Feelgood Story of the Year(TM)…I mean, that’s what I call one seriously happy ending. Granted, defending oneself against an assailant isn’t for everyone–but it’s a damn shame that more people don’t take some Krav Maga or other street fighting training, because the city would be a lot safer for all of us if even just the B-team lowlifes had a reason to think twice before “expressing themselves.”

  • Are some of you serious? Most of these guys do NOT want to hurt you any more than you want to get hurt. MOST. Unless they’re a coldblooded killer, or messed up on drugs, the majority of these guys are probably hoping you’re scared enough to just make it quick and give up your stuff so he can get out of there. When you try to go for a weapon, YOU’RE putting it in play, and greatly increasing the likelihood it get used. Your life or your health is worth more than your iPhone.

    • I’m not saying that fighting back is the decision that minimizes your chances of getting hurt.

      I’m also not saying that fighting back to save a phone makes any kind of economic sense.

      However, fighting back does let you look at yourself in the mirror for the rest of your life knowing that you didn’t let yourself become a victim. Arguably, it also makes you “part of the solution” in a way that most people never will be.

      For *some* people, that third factor outweighs the other two. That was the case for this woman. Maybe it’s not the case for you. And that’s all OK… As long as we don’t feel the need to criticize people who would have chosen differently than we would have.

    • Anon 2:04, given the amount of crime reports we see here that end with the victim getting the crap kicked out of them for no reason, I think you are being unreasonably optimistic to think that the muggers in this town are just there to grab your stuff and go. Plenty of them have shown that they have no problem brutalizing their victims. And no, the victim is not the one putting the weapon in play. The attacker does that when they threaten the victim with it.

    • You must have missed the PoP post the other day from the kid who went around randomly beating the crap out of people for fun.

  • We hear about the muggings where someone gives up his/her phone, etc. and is assaulted anyway (like with the vicious assault on T.C. Maslin), but we don’t hear about the more garden-variety “Robbery – Force and Intimidation” incidents where someone yields his/her property and is not physically harmed.

    I’m glad that the woman in the situation was successful, but I think it’s foolhardy to recommend this as a course of action for everyone. Wasn’t there some evidence that the killing of the Howard student off Georgia Avenue the other month began as a robbery and went wrong when the victim resisted??

    Sure, if you’re successful in resisting a mugging, you can “look at yourself in the mirror for the rest of your life knowing that you didn’t let yourself become a victim,” and I’m sure that’s empowering. But if you’re not successful, you might be looking into the mirror and seeing permanent injuries, or you might be dead and not looking in the mirror at all.

    And the language “LET yourself become a victim” is rather judgmental, implying that people have a choice in all of this. Yes, you have a choice in how you respond… but you aren’t the sole arbiter of the outcome.

    • Actually, I think I was conflating the categories of “Robbery – Intimidation” and “Robbery – Force and Violence.” But the point still stands — we don’t hear about most muggings precisely *because* they don’t result in physical injury.

    • “I think it’s foolhardy to recommend this as a course of action for everyone.”

      I wouldn’t recommend this as a course of action *anyone*. I’m just saying we shouldn’t criticize someone after-the-fact for choosing this course of action.

      “And the language “LET yourself become a victim” is rather judgmental”

      Not my intention – I apologize

  • DC CapHill

    As a survivor of a violent crime where no attempt was made to “fight back” because they never asked for anything prior to stabbing and nearly killing me, I view this woman as a HERO. Finally FINALLY someone that tried to do harm to a fellow citizen for a material object got exactly what was coming to them. Although it’s too bad this person did end up just dying and saving us time/court costs/etc., at least they’ve now got the scars to remind them “Gee, maybe that wasn’t such a great idea. Maybe I shouldn’t be a complete piece of shit from here on out.”

    The more pessimistic side of me thinks not only will this POS live, and eventually get out of jail, but the next time they try to rob someone, they’ll just harm the victim first, so they won’t have a chance to fight back.

    HERO 1
    Shitbird 0

  • gotryit

    I can’t believe people are calling her out on defending herself. You weren’t there, so how about you stop second guessing her. Generalizations about what to do don’t trump your assessment of the situation. Kudos to you, badass lady.

  • As another lady survivor who fought her way out of a knife attack, I can attest that unless you’ve been in that situation, you really have no idea how you’ll react. You may think you do, but you don’t. You don’t.

    My hunch is that this lady hadn’t planned to defend herself, that’s just what happened. Just fought instead of froze or fled. None of these reactions are right or wrong, and each is fraught with their own baggage. I got called a badass a lot for fighting off my would-be killer but it didn’t take away the night terrors or hypersensitivity of PTSD. I imagine this woman is feeling similar. Others who freeze or run prolly feel like shit, like there’s something wrong with them because they couldn’t fight back. I say, why add more to a victim/survivor’s plate by judging?

    While I think it’s amazing that this woman is alive and her assailant is behind bars, I doubt she feels very good or safe these days – or will for a long time. Despite what you call her.

  • Anyone who decides they are going to mug people in DC has to consider that sooner or later they are going to run into a variety of people in this city who might know how to defend them selves. Consider the number of police that are affiliated with this city. MPD, Park Police, Secret Service. There are multiple intelligence agencies in the area. The pentagon and the multiple military people that are associated with it and all the special units that come with that like special forces, rangers and seals. All the security people associated with the embassies. I think as a mugger in this city you take a higher risk of being on the receiving end of an a$$ beating due to all the very interesting people living and moving through this city.

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