Dear PoPville – DC9 Employees Charged with Beating Death Should be Vindicated

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“Dear PoPville,

Please take a look at and think about reposting the info in the link. I hope you decide to post this link to help undo the damage by the incorrect reports that were posted to this and other websites. I know you did not take a position on this issue but it is normal for people to be crucified in the media, then when the heat is off and the real truth comes out, never vindicated.”

From the article mentioned above AP: Doctor testifies in case of DC nightclub death:

A deputy medical examiner considered the death of a man who threw a brick through a Washington nightclub an accident after examining his body, even though the police chief said publicly that he had been savagely beaten and the doctor’s boss pressed for it to be classified as a homicide, according to sworn testimony.

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  • Accidental deaths by savage beatings probably happen more frequently that we’d like to think.

  • What about the statement “We didn’t observe blunt trauma in this gentleman because it wasn’t there.” equates to getting a “savage beating”?

  • Eric, are you implying that there was a “savage beating” in this incident? My knowledge of the matter is more-or-less limited to the article linked above, but the medical examiner concluded there was no beating at all.

  • Or “When prosecutors closed their case in June 2011, they said Mohammed had been restrained but not beaten.”

  • Eric: Possibly. But not in THIS case. How does your comment even apply to this post?

    Don’t these people deserve their lives back after ALL the suffering they have been through?

    It is thoughtless comments like yours that perpetuate and victimize the wrongfully accused.

  • Well, in fairness, I think Erik brings up a thought-provoking point.

  • But again, how does that apply to THIS discussion about the victimization of wrongfully accused? Does Jen’s “though-provoking point” belong here?

    My opinion — NO.

  • The depressing nature of this case aside…I am also pretty bummed that the online version of a paper local to a city 3500 miles from here is covering this but our own “local” Post is not.

  • It’s an AP story by an AP writer here in DC.

  • I am merely stating that there doesn’t seem to be enough information in the above article for somebody who wasn’t involved in the incident to understand what went down one way or the other. A man throws a brick from the window, and then–dies? Without anyone placing their hands on him? OK. Vindicated, I guess.

    • There’s enough information in the above article for somebody who wasn’t involved in the incident to understand that there was never any evidence that the victim was savagely beaten by anybody. As to your other questions, all that information is available in media reports – just because you haven’t read it doesn’t make your point valid.

  • My thoughts and prayers go out to the young man who was savagely beaten and will not receive justice.

  • I think what the AP piece really brings up is how the Chief of Police and the Detectives all along lied about what happened.
    They knowingly misled Ali’s family and the public.!
    They also sensationalized a story made up of untruths by holding a press conference at nine in the morning. They created civil unrest by perpetuating the lie thru statements made to the media and later their silence.

    The real question to the public should be what was the motivation of the Chief and the police working this case to do so? It seems that there might be more to this. A compleat abuse of power seems to be what is going on here. There should be an investigation into their conduct.

  • Did you read the whole artical or just the grayed out summery?

  • Either you’re trolling or you didn’t read anything in the article.

  • The issue is that the chief of police spoke too soon, was incorrect, and then worked to cover up her words/actions. She RUINED people’s lives and labeled them as murderers. Their full names and addresses were released to the public as being CHARGED with muder before they had even been indicted. Some were fired from their jobs, couldn’t even walk through their own communities. The order of events is a huge issue. Lanier spoke out of turn, did not and has not commented further to correct them. On top of which there is obviously some behind the scenes manipulation by the police department to protect her which is an abuse of power.

  • Forgive me for being skeptical of the above when the reportage of this incident has to this point been fabricated, obfuscated, and deliberately misconstrued.

  • If the AP article is to be believed (I can’t imagine that the Associated Press has much of an agenda here), then I too am curious about the MPD/Chief Lanier’s motivation in moving as quick as they did on this case. Do I believe Mr. Mohammed was roughhoused? Without a doubt. Would he have died if he did not get himself into this altercation? I would like to believe that the answer is no. Did the DC9 employees intend for him to die? I cannot imagine this to be true. This situation is extremely sad and unfortunate all around. But again – why did MPD/Lanier move so quickly in placing blame?

  • love to see your evidence.

  • I find it really irresponsible for people to speculate about this stuff. That’s what trials are for.

  • I don’t think you can fault the general public for being more inquisitive about these matters so soon after the Zimmerman case.

  • On one hand, the AP article is quoting what was said IN TRIAL. On the other, I think it is exactly what should be done. Not to question authority and believe everything they say, especially in DC is foolish and dangerous.

  • I assume they’ll be a civil suit by the DC9 employees/owners against Lanier and the city. I think Lanier’s statements were slanderous, and if not, certainly “colored” the investigation. I hope the city will settle for an amount of money that covers the legal costs for the employees/owners, and that Lanier (along with Jim Graham) will learn to shut their mouth and wait until the facts are in before they speak out publicly.

    • Oh I see. So you find yourself a dead man on your hands and you are the victim, a recipient of funds from the city?

  • Exactly

  • ‘Because of the component of restraint, she said, yes, it was reasonable to sign this case out as a homicide,” Goslinoski testified.’
    According to the 2011 City Paper article there was allegedly and eyewitness to the beating (late night, dark, any 5 on 1 probaly looks like a beating?).
    You don’t have to dance around issue the guy was Ethiopian and he died near a strip known for Ethiopian (Eritrean) businesses. A public official does not want to be seen as insensitive. The investigation continued and the charges were ultimately dropped. That this how the legal process works it is not always tidy. This article is written with the benefit of 2 years of hindsight.

  • Just because he wasn’t beaten to death doesn’t mean it wasn’t a homicide. It says that he was restrained. If he was improperly restrained or if those restraining did not stop when they saw signs of distress with the victim that could mean that their actions resulted in his death and thus could be ruled as a homicide. The article seemed one sided because it did not interview or source many people. What about the victim’s family members of the victim? After reading the article I quite frankly am not sure what to believe.

  • Wasn’t he also restrained by the police, and died in their custody?

    • Yes. He was alive when he was taken by the MPD. The reason Lie-near issues the statement was probably because she didn’t want the city to be sued. She is such a snake she tried to pin their mismanagement of the issue on these poor people.

      Why, if he was in distress and needed to go to the hospital, was he brought in the back of a police car? That is NOT standard procedure.

  • Eric – I hope something like this happens to someone in your sphere and see how much frustration you feel that, once cleared, never vindicated.

    This case is not even close to being similar to the Zimmerman trial. In that one, he actually committed the act but was proven on the right side of the law (i just want to add that i dint believe he was morally right…just legally under fl law). In this case, these folks were cleared by the same dysfunctional system that unfairly condemned them. Now, Eric and others are still condemning them.

    When does it end?

    • I’m not condemning the DC9 people at all. In fact, I haven’t even bother to commit their names to memory. I’m condemning the general air of obfuscation surrounding this case, as well as the need to restrain an obviously unstable person to the point in which they suffer a delirium so severe that it causes a fatality. I’m additionally condemning the press, the police, and fine folks such as yourself that feel a story ends just because you say so. Thanks for assuming so much about me, though.

      • Right. Your the super righteous one.

        Ok. You take the high ground. Even in doing so, you show your true sentiment “…as well as the need to restrain an obviously unstable person to the point in which they suffer a delirium so severe that it causes fatality.” If that’s not a condemnation and judgment I don’t know what is.

        Tell me, oh guru of life, when does it end for those people involved?

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