March on U Street Last Night After Trayvon Martin Verdict


The photo above was tweeted to us after the Trayvon Martin verdict last night around 1:30am from U Street by [email protected].

From CBS CBS News:

“Following nearly three weeks of testimony, a jury of six women in the George Zimmerman trial has found the former neighborhood watch volunteer not guilty of second-degree murder.

He was also found not guilty of the lesser offense of manslaughter, which the jury also weighed.”

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  • lukecolorado

    Zimmerman isn’t “white”.

    • that’s not whats being suggested. the point is that white kids don’t get profilled. white gets rarely get shot for being in the wrong place.
      conviction rates for killers of white kids is much higher than conviction rates of killers of black kids.
      this is all about the fear that black parents have that their children will be guilty of being black.

      • +1 Very well said.

      • I would say that being on top of someone and punching them in the face is definitely the “wrong place”.

      • “white gets rarely get shot for being in the wrong place.” Sorry, but you couldn’t be more wrong with this part of your statement…for decades now when a white person is assaulted in a black neighborhood…the sentiment is…even from the police…that they ‘shouldn’t have been there’…

        • how many white teens are shot in black neighborhoods? i don’t have numbers either, but i have a hard time believing it’s a huge number.

          and come on son, that sentiment is not expressed towards whites nearly as much as toward blacks.

    • andy

      White AND Hispanic may not fit your mindset, but you can be both, and apparently the man defines himself as such.

  • The point of the sign is that the PERSON WHO DIED is not white. The one who shot and killed a teenager is not the victim and it is irrelevant to the sign.

  • The next two posts after this story are about multiple people shot and stabbed in DC in the last 24 hours. Any of these people marching care about these less famous victims?

  • Why aren’t there marches every Saturday night for “justice” seeing how there seems to be a murder in this city every weekend?

    Why are those murders / deaths diffrent?

  • When was the last time anyone got life in prison for murder in DC? No justice for moms who lose their sons in DC!

    • no justice? our conviction rates for murder have gone up. must there be a life sentence for you to think justice has been served?

      • In most cases, yes, there should be a life sentence for murder.

        And Zimmerman should be in prison too for stalking down a kid for the crime of being a young black man and provoking a confrontation that, regardless of who punched who, led to that kid being killed. Who punched who should influence how long he is in prison.

        And that black woman in Florida who just got 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot to scare off her abusive husband – yet was convicted despite stand-your-ground – she should be freed.

        • Anon @12:01pm:

          The black woman in Florida who got 20 years in prison for firing warning shots to scare off her abusive husband should be freed?

          Would it change your mind to know that the CBS story floating around Saturday night regarding said woman following the Zimmerman verdict was purposely misleading to provoke racial tension? The woman was out on bond, was told not to contact her husband or children. She WENT TO HER HUSBAND’S HOUSE, got into a verbal altercation with him, left her husband’s house to get the gun out of her car, went back inside and shot AT her husband AND two children. So yeah, pretty sure she should be in prison for attempted murder.

          America is being torn apart by an irresponsible media, and no one seems to want to talk about that.

  • Marching down U street late Saturday night is lottery the least you can do for justice.

    • but it’s good for your heart.

    • “is lottery the least you can do for justice”

      Ah, lottery least. The opposite of “lottery most”, which refers to “buying out the store” and getting every Powerball ticket available. No, I dare say that “lottery the least” is what you can do for justice, since lotteries disproportionate target the funds of financially illiterate Americans. Fight on, comrade!

  • this case was not a race issue until the media got involved. The sign in this picture is ignorant and disgusting. When ALL races stop talking in terms of”us” and “them” then we can move forward. I agree with the post above, why its no one protesting the randomkillings that happened this weekend in our own city?

    • There was no case at all before the media got involved. The reason this was such a big deal is that it took forever for florida to even arrest zimmerman.

      • Because they knew there wasn’t a viable case against him… they knew there would be — and was — way too much reasonable doubt.

    • i agree. the sign is false. people want to use the case as a platform for a ridiculous racial agenda, but don’t pay attention to understanding of the facts (e.g. wearing a hoodie to show support, but in reality Trayvon’s sweatshirt had no hood). I barely consider myself very informed on the case, let alone enough to be outraged either way by it. Yet so many people are taking to the streets over it? What about the murder last night on Georgia Ave.?

    • Oh look, what a shock another post-racial troll come to tell us that if we bury our collective heads in the sand race issues will simply disappear. I bet Trayvon thought if he just ignored the creep following him (because of his race) he would just go away, how did that work out?

      If the triggerman in one of those shootings this weekend is caught and released without charges within a few hours of the shootings you can bet there will be protests.

      THAT is why there were protests, THAT is why the media got involved because the cops in that backwater town did not do a real investigation. THAT is also probably why the jury failed to convict, the investigation was botched from the start. There was really only one possible outcome, and if he had been convicted an appeal using ‘stand your ground’ would have set him free.

      Let me say this again because your ignorance is a total eclipse of that stupid sign


        They are protesting the police and judicial system that disproportionately arrests and convicts minorities. I’m sure it is very easy to be a post-racialist when you do not belong to the group being systemically oppressed by your own government. This isn’t some grand conspiracy it is a conspiracy perpetrated on accident by politicians seeking reelection and private prisons trying to stay in the black (zing, that is a seriously bleak pun).

        • While I agree the “Stand Your Ground” law has essentially made Fl the wild west, I don’t know that a minority on minority crime is the best example to pull the white man is keeping us down card. As a white man, I would agree that if the the tables were turned Trayvon would more than likely be in jail. I would even accept that this was a law put in place by the white man based off of irrational fear of being mugged or assaulted by a minority. Or that a minority would never receive the same fair trial as a white man.

          I realize that this world is not equal (that I am awarded unparalleled unwritten rights based on the color of my white skin) and that Fl has an abundance of backwoods racist rednecks.

          With that being said, the white man would like to sit this one out and point the finger to the hispanic man.

          • we’re all on the same page that “hispanic” isn’t a race, right? it’s an ethnicity.
            a person of any race can be Hispanic.

          • Nice deflection, finger is still pointed

          • You do know that 84% of murdered whites are killed by other whites, right?

            All this proves is that victims of violence are typically of the same race as their perpetrators.

            The fact of the matter is that ethnic minorities are disproportionately arrested, prosecuted, and given harsher sentences than their white counterparts for the same exact crimes. Our justice system is utterly broken, since it cannot mete out justice equally. Yes, it’s the best option we have, but I think these folks are right to protest in an effort to make it better.

          • Hispanic is the option it provides on the census so it can confuse some. If I were Zimmerman I would file my race under white for trial time too. I bet you can also say 84% of blacks are also killed by blacks. Seeing that most murdered people are killed by people they know its the pointless common sense fact of the week.

        • Maybe they should stop killing people so often then. FYI Zimmerman was a minority too.

          • Zimmerman classifies himself as white (race) and HIspanic (ethnicity).

            That would be like saying someone who considers themselves white (race) and (French) is a “minority” in America. Their race, no. Their ethnicity, yes.

            The only thing that’s ridiculous is how Hispanic is even listed on the US Census. Why not add every ethnicity? Italian, Irish, Russian…?

      • If he “ignored the creep” this wouldn’t e a story, he would have went home.

        Instead he ATTACKED the “creepy ass cracker” who was following him, and a tragity happened.

        All physical evidence presented point to this, yet people choose to completely ignore the facts, and the entire basis of the crimal justice system, “beyond a reasonable doubt” for “justice”

        • Zimmerman was instructed by a 911 operator to stay in his car. Seems like he was the one who escalated the situation and turned it into a tragedy.

          • Um – a 911 operator is just that – a phone answerer – they dont have any authorityvand are not the Popo

          • Maybe no authority, but in this case the 911 operator obviously had more sense than either of the two involved in the incident.

          • I know people have had their issues with OUC, but when it works the way it’s supposed to, a 911 operator is far from just a phone answerer. It’s true that they don’t have any law enforcement authority and it’s not a crime per se to disregard 911 operators’ instructions. But their function is to keep things calm and under control until first responders can arrive on site, and they’re trained to do so–whether that means collecting information about someone’s medical condition prior to the EMTs’ arrival, or advising someone what to do as they await the police. Not being familiar with Florida law and the threshold for manslaughter (and bearing in mind that accounts differed as to exactly what transpired immediately prior to the shooting, I can’t say for sure what I’d have decided if I were on the jury. But at minimum, I think Zimmerman showed a reckless disregard for caution and for authority by pursuing Martin against the advise of dispatch. While I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he was not, at the core, a hateful, spiteful person bent on murder, he does seem to me like a wannabe-cop who jumped the gun (pardon the terrible pun) and decided on his own, under no authority of law enforcement, to pursue a person who he perceived (perhaps due to race or some combination of race and age) was up to criminal activity, despite there being no evidence of that. Again, not saying he intended to kill, but he nonetheless committed a hot-headed action that resulted in the death of another person, and for that there should be at least some consequences.

        • wasn’t martin just “standing his ground”?

          • No, he attacked…by all evidence. It was unfortunate that it lead to his death…because he didn’t deserve that.

          • That’s what I’ve been wondering throughout the trial. Not that I would find that justifiable, because I have an issue with “stand your ground” laws in general. But I wondered–if people were claiming that GZ stood his ground (yes, I realize he ultimately decided not to to use that argument in court, but that was the initial justification), couldn’t you just as easily flip that equation and argue that Martin was standing his ground because he felt threatened that a suspicious-looking guy was following him? (Again, I personally am alarmed by the expansiveness of many stand your ground laws, because I think prior to resorting to deadly force, people *should* have a duty to retreat or to extricate themselves from the situation, if at all possible. )

          • No, you couldn’t, because that’s not how the law works.

  • Of course there are serious issues of race surrounding this case, but I think it is a bit of a distraction from what is the real lesson here, which is that Florida Stand Your Ground law and others like it allows this situation to occur. Look at the language here:
    They way that law was written, the outcome of this case is sound. It’s these laws that need to be repealed because under this system it establishes, Zimmerman goes free.

    In particular check out this language:
    776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

    (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
    (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.

    So even if you provoke the incident (as Zimmerman did), you can still use deadly force if the other person who was provoked (Trayvon) acts in such a way so the initiator of the conflict (Zimmerman) can reasonably believe that the one who was provoked is going to cause the initiator death or great bodily harm.

    Can you see how logically messed up that is? I’m not saying that there aren’t serious issues of race in this subject, but we need to make sure those issues don’t distract us from seeing how terrible these stand your ground laws are.

    • +1 Zimmerman had an opportunity to have a hearing regarding the stand your ground provision and chose not to , he instead made a general claim of self defense. Either way – the defense that was presented claimed that when Zimmerman began heading back to his car, Martin approached him and attacked him by punching him in the face and slamming his head against the concrete sidewalk. All this while Martin was on top of Zimmerman, and reaching for Zimmerman’s gun. The facts presented by the prosecution did not adequately refute this version of events. That is how the criminal justice system is supposed to work. You put a man behind bars only if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty of a crime. Here, the possibility that Zimmerman was being attacked and killed Martin while trying to defend himself was great enough that it led to a reasonable doubt.

  • buzzfeed shows the sign from another angle.

  • ugg.. That sign and person make me want to vomit…Point is if Zimmerman didn’t have a gun he wouldn’t have followed trayvon and wouldn’t have been getting his ass whipped and wouldn’t have shot anyone.Racist aren’t going anywhere anytime soon nor is racial profiling.I don’t see how inciting people to riot is a good solution to this.

  • + 1

    Also – the news continually perpetuates racial divisions. Every time they start a story ” first black person to (fill in the blank)” – even the allegedly “positive” stories amplify race where it has no relevance to the story …

  • Such a stupid sign. But participants in “marches” like this tend to showcase over-reactive and simplistic slogans rather than thoughtful discourse. Or it’s just people looking for a bit of excitement, for example, the GW kids that gathered near the White Hiuse after Osama bin Laden’s death & treated the moment like a nationalistic pep rally.

  • That’s not really a protest. That just looks like every person who was in a bar on U St when the verdict announced saw a chance to get themselves on the news. If you want to protest you should show up at your state legislature and make some noise, not just leave the bar for an hour or two.

  • So help me understand what people are really upset about here. Is it:

    1) The verdict?
    2) The laws as they pertain to self-defense and justifiable force?
    3) Gun laws?

    If you said (2) or (3), carry on (although neither of those have anything to do with race), but people seem to be protesting the verdict, which suggests to me they don’t understand (or didn’t pay attention to) the case. Under the laws that exist today, the jury got it right.

    You can argue that the underlying law is unjust or that he shouldn’t have had a gun, but based on the evidence presented, the jury made the correct legal decision.

  • What this country needs is a frank discussion on race, violence and gun safety.
    To honor Treyvon and the hundreds of victims of gun violence in our country each year we need to openly discuss these issues.
    The fact that the Washington Post doesn’t cover the violence that plagues our city is disturbing.
    To start this national discussion we all need to examine our personal biases and have discussions with those in all parts of our lives. We must be honest and frank, willing to say and hear uncomfortable things. Through reason and understanding we can hopefully grow and reduce racism, incidents of violence and the all to important role guns play in our society.

    • andy

      RE: Washington Post – they have basically abandoned local coverage. For DC murder coverage, Homicide Watch is the best.

      And you are right about discussing race and violence and bias. At its base, this story is about misconceptions leading to conflict. If our biases are brought to light, discussed and we are disabused of them, we won’t follow our biases into conflict. If not, we go on “gut feelings” about “sketchy” people and end up in needless conflict.

  • George Zimmerman did not have to prove that he acted in self-defense, the prosecution had to prove that he did not act in self-defense. And it had to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s a very high standard for a case with lots of conflicting evidence.
    Anyone who says”ALL of the evidence clearly shows X” clearly knows knothing about the case. There was conflicting evidence on almost every important point. The only thing that was clear was that when Zimmerman first saw Trayvon Martin, he assumed, without knowing a damn thing about him, that he was a criminal – or a potential criminal. That’s what set this entire thing in motion. Even if you believe Zimmerman killed Martin in self-defense, he was put in the position of having to defend himself by his assumption that Martin was a criminal who the police needed to be called on and who Zimmerman needed to follow. The problem is that it’s not a crime to assume someone is a criminal or to follow them based on that assumption. It is a crime to attack someone without provocation. But the evidence did not clearly show Zimmerman attacked Martin. Nor did it clearly show that Martin attacked Zimmerman. There was clearly a struggle and Martin clearly got shot, but how things got to that point (beyond Zimmerman’s initlal assumption that Martin was a criminal) was not clear. And that’s called reasonable doubt.
    Was Zimmerman criminally negligent or reckless? I think so. If he had left the police work to the police, Trayvon Martin would not be dead. But Zimmerman was not charged with criminal negligence or reckless endangerment. If the prosecution had brought either of those charges, there would have been outrage in some parts that Martin’s life was only worth a negligence or recklessness charge. But at the end of the day, that is (in my opinion) the best that the evidence showed.

  • Lots of people talking about the ‘broken’ criminal justice system here… and not one person mentions the IT guy who got fired from the prosecutors office after blowing the whistle on prosecutorial misconduct involving exculpatory evidence? Frankly, the prosecution lawyers should be dis-barred. The prosecution _never_ had a case here. There was never any evidence that this was anything other than justifiable self defense. The case went forward for political reasons. That’s the real crime.

    • I’m surprised this was not a bigger story. This is pretty huge in terms of misconduct by the state…

  • Someone somewhere asked what they should tell their black kids when someone profiles them and follows them as Zimmerman allegedly did. The answer is, call the cops or try to get away; don’t try to take matters into your own hands.

    • Yeah, and if the guy confronts you (my assumpition about the evidence is as good as yours) don’t take matters into your own hands because that would be self-defense and black kids don’t have the right to defend themselves.

      • That’s kind of a stupid thing to say. I am not black, but I would rather have my kids run away from there or call the cops than attempt to take matters into their hands. If it’s a crazy guy carrying a gun (and conceal and carry is legal in many states, including, I think VA), things can go downhill real quick (as we saw).

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