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Dear PoPville,
New York is the Big Apple. Chicago is the Windy City. Detroit is the Motor City. Vegas is Sin City. Philadelphia is the City of Brotherly Love. Does Washington, D.C. have a nickname? Chocolate City does not seem as apt as it once did, and The Nation’s Capital is not very catchy. It would be great if PoPville could come to a consensus on a new nickname.
I don’t think we could come to consensus on whether or not water is wet but it is an interesting question. What do you guys think – has the time come to consider a new nickname for DC?
Back in July 2010 the Washington Post reported:
unless the earnest and obvious “Nation’s Capital” is your idea of a cool handle, Washington and its environs have never gotten very far in the civic nickname game.
We are pleased to report, however, that this could be changing. A nickname has recently emerged that could put the Washington area on the regional nickname map: the DMV. As in, D for the District, M for Maryland, and V for Virginia.
I’m not quite sure DMV has stuck – have you guys heard people (besides newspapers) use it?
For city nicknames wikipedia lists the following for DC:
The Capital of the World.
Chocolate City.
City of Magnificent Distances (reported in the 1880s)
District of Crime.
Murder Capital of America (Late 1980s to early 1990s).
Well personally the issue has been settled for me – I will now refer to our Nation’s Capital only as the City of Magnificent Distances or maybe just CMD. I freaking love it.
So for the Friday Question of the Day: If you think Washington DC should have a new nickname, what are some good alternatives?
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DMV is awful, and describes more than Washington DC, anyway. I’m co-signing City of Magnificent Distances.
I only came here so I could express my distaste of “DMV.” anyone in the district would just say “DC” if they’re using an acronym, so only the Ms and Vs (or should I say B and Ts) really use it…
So… the anti-suburb thing really flourishes among the a.) recent transplant crowd and b.) the people who grew up no where close to a big city. The B&T thing doesnt even really apply to Manhattan anymore now that Brooklyn and areas like Hoboken have been integrated anymore.
Anyone who has been here for a long time realizes that the usual big city as a nexus model, based primarily on people spending a weekend in NYC on a field trip, doesnt really apply here. Someone can easily work in Bethesda, have parents that live in Tenleytown, live in Arlington, and eat out in Silver Spring.
People even *gasp* go to Baltimore, which is pretty close considering its about the same travel time as taking the subway from brooklyn to midtown, which many people do twice a day.
Also, the entire state of Maryland can get into DC without crossing a bridge or going through a tunnel. There are no tunnels. So, what I’m saying is… stop using the bullshit B&T term.
woah let’s calm down here! my point is not to denigrate people from the region (I’ll do that separately and directly), but to note that a nickname is useless when the people from its central point never use it.
imagine if there was a nickname for nyc that was only used by people from the outer boroughs and no one in manhattan.
I grew up near Philadelphia, and the suburbs there are not bad. I even tried living in the suburbs of Northern Virginia when I first moved here, but I hated it. The DC suburbs are overcrowded and don’t have the infrastructure to support their populations, yet most of the people who live there are self-important jackasses who ignore all the problems and instead wax poetic about their public school system.
Giving a nickname to a city that’s already refereed to in its acronym format a new nickname and referring to that in acronym format is dumb (ie DMV, CMD -looking at you PoP-, etc).
Maybe we just need to call it the City of Acronyms (kind of fitting with all the government agencies we refer to only by acronyms).
You mean “the COA”, of course.
I see what you did there…
Looking north on 13th from Cardozo, you can see pretty much all the way to Missouri Ave. That’s almost 3 miles. From 14th & Clifton you can actually see the wilson bridge. That’s a good bit farther.
why is there any question about this – it’s chocolate city and always has been…
agreed. dc is chocolate city. why does it need a new nickname??
Since DC was a majority black city only from about 1960 until 2010, why would it be chocolate city? I say 2010 since that census 50.7% Black but assume the Hispanic population is way under counted in DC.
Looks like Marion Barry’s prediction in 1988 that 2010 be the day DC lost its majority black population was correct.
cuatelandia!!
Boo. “me” isn’t me.
too many syllables
… since the 1960s, anyway.
I doubt the District was called that before the city had a majority black population.
whoa so let me get this straight…”chocolate city” has nothing to do with actual chocolate?
Any city with a majority (or at least large) black population has been called “chocolate city”. I’ve heard it used to refer to New Orleans, Detroit, Philadelphia, Memphis and even Chicago. DC has never owned that moniker.
Actually, you are all wrong. Chocolate City comes from the very first days of the DC. During the Revolutionary War, before the city was actually established, in order to provide monetary support for the war effort, the colonials worked with the native Piscataways to grow and sell chocolate, often times formed into little tri-corner hat souvenirs to be sold to passersby. The Piscataways knew this area as Nacotchtank, which roughly translates into English as “The City of Chocolate”.
Actually, Nacotchtank means “trading city”.
Yes and no. Spelled the way I did, it means “trading village” but if you add an Algonquin accent mark over the second c, it means “chocolate trading village”. I dont know how to make that accent mark on a keyboard.
Nacho-tank means “my stomach”
Unless you’ve done some unpublished scholarly work on the subject, that’s just not true.
what do you mean? I eat a ridiculous amount of nachos.
hah!
Why don’t we rename DC the “Whitman’s Sampler” . . . Now with more Whitmans!!!
Actually, we’re told that Whitwomans outnumber Whitmans here.
I’ve always enjoyed calling it Swampland…especially in July
Swamplandia would be better…but I and all of my (college-aged) friends call it DMV.
I can’t stand The DMV as a nickname, largely because if you live in Falls Church or Columbia and say you are from DC I call Bullshmicks. I grew up in Rockland County NY, and if I had said I was from the Big Apple, a true NYC resident would’ve slapped me senseless. If you don’t live in the City proper, you shouldn’t get the privilege of claiming it.
Ha! I’m with you there.. my freshman year of college a girl on my floor professed to be from DC (I’m from DC proper) and when I asked her what high school she went to she fessed up that she was from Reston. That’s a solid 45 minutes to an hour outside of the city. Don’t get it twisted!
This happens everywhere though, meet from massachusetts and they’re bound to say Boston, even when they’re not, this is just how it goes. People are bound to Boston as opposed to Fitchburg…
I generally refer to it as The Swamp to my friends back home.
Yeah I think this one’s pretty common, at least around some political types. I’ve heard it on the Hill and from some journalists covering that Hill, and I refer to it as The Swamp to friends out of town. Hell of a lot better than DMV, which is way too close to “DelMarVa”…
Unfortunately, that’s the name of the Florida Gators’ football field.
agree, bc. this is moot. chocolate city.
Moot, you say?
moot/moÍžot/:
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moot point
A debatable question, an issue open to argument; also, AN IRRELEVANT QUESTION, A MATTER OF NO IMPORTANCE. For example, Whether Shakespeare actually wrote the poem remains a moot point among critics , or It’s a moot point whether the chicken or the egg came first . This term originated in British law where it described a point for discussion in a moot , or assembly, of law students. By the early 1700s it was being used more loosely in the present sense.
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Dream City. Tom Sherwood’s designation. Not only is he everyone’s favorite (self avowed) cracker, it fits thematically. We do dream, don’t we?
is that Sherwood thing like Chris Rock’s bit about everyone (white)’s “one black friend?”
You know what, that’s not a bad analogy. I was really thinking of this one time Sherwood was on the Kojo Nnamdi Show and was going off about his heritage and what he and Marion Barry had in common.
Dream City is the name of a book about the District Tom Sherwood and Harry Jaffe published in the 90′s. Hollywood is looking adopting parts of the book to a biopic about Marion Barry with Eddie Murphy in the lead.
I putting money on the term because it would become popular naturally if the movie gets made. It’s also evocative and ambiguous enough to describe the District of the past and the future — it can be both earnest and ironic. Earnestly, it touches on our collective dream of a great city. Ironically, it describes the dystopian aspect of a capitol city that can’t vote.
Chocolate City works for now, but it’s no good in a future where DC is increasingly diverse. I give it 5 years tops. DMV is awkward. Can anyone really imagine District residents telling people they’re from DMV? That’s crazy talk. “DMV” is only good as an acronym online. If you want to tell someone you’re from “DMV” in real life, you just say you’re from the area.
and by “area,” they mean “urrea”
new orleans is chocolate city.
I actually love DMV, and you hear it on the radio all the time. It’s inclusive of the whole area, and is tongue-in-cheek funny (versus the insipid National Capital Region). As a Boston and NYC transplant, I, for one, am proud to be “stuck in the DMV.”
For the District itself, I’d encourage us to start calling it Dodge City as wink to this gogo classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GIg9MaGIeg
D.C. don’t stand for Dodge City.
I grew up in Jersey and knew DMV as DelMarVa- Delaware Maryland Virginia… or DMV as the Department of Motor Vehicles. I have always thought of DC as the District…
Virginia is a shithole. I’d prefer our nickname not involve it.
Same here.
I actually find the sun to shine a bit brighter in Virginia.
Personally, I wouldn’t want all the sun shining in my eyes while I’m sitting for hours in bumper-to-bumper traffic.
+1
City Beautiful. It is the prettiest city in the US in the spring, fall and summer. I’ve traveled abroad a lot, and besides a couple European cities that have had 10 centuries + to grow, this is one of the most beautiful out there. Even our ghettos tend to be attractive, with nice victorian rowhouses, trees, and greenery.
+100
I was walking around DC with my cousin when I first moved here. At one point she saw some graffiti and said, “Let’s turn around; I think we’re getting near a bad area.” I was surprised– I was so used to NYC and Philly where graffiti is everywhere. DC is definitely one of the prettiest and cleanest cities I’ve been to.
Miami already calls itself the city beautiful.
But they do it in Spanish, right? Ciudad Bella?
absolument! it’s a gorgeous city. well designed, well planned, well laid out…
lol, different worlds. “DMV” terminology is firmly entrenched in local music and culture. i didn’t even know newspapers had picked up on it.
I mean whats grander than “Nations Capital”. Kinds speaks for its self.
Fat cat city
I don’t like “DMV” for a number of reasons, but chiefly it’s not a nickname for the city; it’s an acronym for the Metropolitan Region. Chicago proper is called The Windy City, but the area is called Chicagoland. DC needs its own nickname, even to go along with DMV.
What about “The District,” that’s kind of a nickname, no?
Honestly, that’s what I’ve always called it. The District.
I see no reason not to call it The District, since we are the only federal district in the country. No chance another city is going by this moniker, it’s accurate, specific and unique.
If that’s not a suitable nickname, though, and we don’t stick with City of Magnificent Distances, I propose Alphabet City. It’s a play on the acronym-focused suggestion, but maybe a little catchier.
How about “Tale of Two Cities”. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…
“It was the best of times, it was the … BLURST of times!? You stupid monkeys!!”
+100
I am always partial to “Cap City” or simply “The District.”
How ’bout we go with Tomorrowland, that make believe city from Disney World. It captures both the exciting wonder that only DC has yet captures the fantasy aspect of how perfect DC isn’ t.
milk chocolate city?
Haha, plus one for “milk chocolate city.”
I am a fan of both Chocolate City and Dodge City, let’s stick with the former and make the latter more commonly utilized …
This is more of a motto than a nickname, but I like the idea of “overeducated, underrepresented”
Except with a 50% highschool drop out rate and one of the highest illiteracy rates in the country, “overeducated” doesn’t apply to the city as a whole.
Cities are big enough for more than one nickname – see:
Chicago: Windy City and City of Big Shoulders
Seattle: Emerald City and Jet City
NYC: Big Apple and City that Never Sleeps…
I like Chocolate City and The District. Only one city in the world can be called The District – so lets own it.
Not really. People call Mexico City “DF” (for Distrito Federal/ Federal District.)
Yeah but no one calls Mexico City “el distrito” and certainly not “the district.”
+1 for the district, but milk chocolate city also made me laugh.
exactly – I do like Milk Chocolate City.
I don’t know about nicknames but we have a lot of great motos:
Hollywood for ugly people
Northern charm, southern efficiency
Any more?
I was thinking chocolate milk myself
I like DMV as a nickname for the area, and you hear it a lot more nowadays, especially with younger people. DC itself only has 600,000 residents, but the metro-area has over 5 million, so I think it fits.
I agree that DC itself needs a new nickname. I tend to call it The District but that’s really more of an abbreviation than a nickname.
“Should We Consider Giving Washington DC a new Nickname?”
No.
In my trucking days, everyone on the CB called DC “Bullshit City”.
I’ll co-sign for that nickname.
ha ha. +1.
Land of Many Traffic Circles
I tell people i’m from the “double d” and they say what is that. I say it stands for the “Dirty District”. Better known as the Nation’s Capital…
In the words of the Honorable Bart Scott of the NY Jets.
Can’t Vote
Can’t Vote
No, We Can’t Vote
No Representation!!!
dirty district is pretty good!
DMV is THE WORST. It’s for suburbanites. DC is shorter to say than DMV, anyway. UGH I can’t stand it…
The Great Tourist Trap
“Hollywood for ugly people” is one of my faves.
District of Criminals.
The 51st State! We already have “Taxation without Representation” on our license plates–might as well bring it full circle.
Meh, that one’s been used for DC, Puerto Rico, and even Israel. And anyways, I’m still waiting for the great Annexion Quebecois to get l’Etat Cinquante-et-Unième
Whatever happened to Mayor Gray’s “One City”?
He drank everybody’s blood. Blah! BLAH!
What happened to “Hollywood for Ugly People”?
I like “where class presidents go to die”.
ha ha. i spit my water out on my screen when i read that one.
I read “DMV” and automatically think “Department of Motor Vehicles”.
+1.
I would say Crapital of the World, but I like it here, so maybe we can call somewhere else Crapital of the World?
Richmond. Though I’ve never been there and am told it’s lovely. I just dislike the idea of Richmond.
DMV is stupid, and it’s not a nickname for DC anyway. I’ve always thought that most city nicknames were pointless marketing ploys. The Emerald City (Seattle) for example was cooked up by the city council in the 80s as a branding technique. No one there actually calls it that. Do New Yorkers call it the Big Apple? I’ve never heard one say it.
I’ve never seen anybody say, “Hey, let’s go to Emerald City.” But people have made Emerald City part of marketing/branding, and I definitely remember references when the Sonics were around Anybody still remember the Sonics? GP! Detlef! Kemp! (Sniff)
Andy – was just lamenting the loss of the Sonics to a fellow Washington Stater. I wonder if the Big Smooth still hosts Smooth Out.
Oh yeah, I’m actually old enough to remember when the won the championship (1978?). Go Slick Watts! That was Seattle’s one and only championship win. I blame me. Whenever I move to a town, the sports teams all instantly suck. So, Redskins fans, you can give up on a Superbowl anytime in the next 30-40 years, because I’m not moving.
Oh. And I always thought I brought the curse. : )
I thought the Washington Post came up with DMV so they could fit something short into their headlines. However it came about, I agree it’s not something ‘true DC’ residents are embracing
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DC used to be known as Tree City (at least I heard that somewhere). I’ve never heard anyone actually say Cap City, but it sounds cool.
The City of Children with Guns
The Lanyard.
You know, those strings that everyone wears to hold their id cards, those are a true emblem of DC’s bureaucratic class.
The best ones seem to be more organic. To deliberately try and come up with something seem too clever by half or more likely, too stupid.
New Orleans:
The city that care forgot
The city that forgot to care (briefly in the ’80s – but never entirely gone)
The Big Easy
The Big Sleazy
The Town that Barry Built
DMV isn’t new, where you been?
district of corruption, crook city, something to that effect
Serf City, because citizens of the Capital of the Free World lack representation.
I like this!
“DC, America’s asshole. We are a constant source of shit.”
Democracy’s Colony
Democracy’s Colon?
I hate DMV. Sounds like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, and it refers to the area, not the city.
I like the moniker on the old license plates: A Capital City.
Or how ’bout Gridlock Town?
I’m all for The Crapital.
DMV = Department of Motor Vehicles = preview of hell.
We are and always will be Chocolate City. How can you argue this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LoHdNo4RYE
The Meter High City?
DMV = Department of Motor Vehicles. I detest it.
My preference: The district.
Federal City – it already exists as the moniker
City of Council Thievery
Second-class City. (voting rights, representation, self-government, enclave clause of the U.S. Constitution, etc, etc)
Another vote to just keep Chocolate city. And, yes, I am vanilla colored.
i always liked “Drama City” via George Pelecanos.
I’ve often heard it called Sodom on the Potomac, but that’s usually by people who have never been here and can’t differentiate the city as a whole from the fedrul guvmint.
If we’re coming up with a new nickname, why not go with something like “The Colony” to acknowledge the lack of representation and etc?
Oooh, I like.
How about we preserve our history, yet capture the new excitement and vitality of DC?
City of Chocolate
I used “DMV” when writing for NBC Washington, and while I thought it was clever, it was also a bit clunky. Also, it refers to the region, not “D.C. Proper.” My understanding is that it’s mostly used in the hip hop community, and is otherwise uncommon.
How about updating “Chocolate City” for new demographic realities — Neapolitan City? Swirl City?
“Drama City” is also pretty cool, as is “Dream City”.
“city of magnificent distances” is the dumbest nickname ever, especially since our city is less than ten miles square. a sprawling city like houston might deserve that horrid nickname, but we sure don’t.
this will be a chocolate city for the foreseeable future, as d.c. will likely retain the largest proportion of black residents in any major american city for another generation, tops. it’s us and chicago. and since our city is smaller, we can always claim way more black people per household. lmao!!!!!!
How about “DPE” to remind people of all the parking tickets the’ll get should they chose to come here. Morale killing, soulless city.. biggest mistake of my life into which I’m currently too entrenched to move. DC is the biggest piece of shit on the planet. People fucking suck. Administration sucks .. fix the fucking roads at least with all the $ from parking tickets…
I say City of Words. DC’s both a city of writers and a city of democracy (for some). Also compares well with other major city nicknames…think City of Angels, City of Lights, City of Brotherly Love, City of Broad Shoulders, etc…check out http://www.cityofwordsdc.org.
I know that many people do not believe that there are a such thing as a real Washingtonian but my family has been here since slavery. We are successful, college educated, upper middle class Washingtonians who have contributed to the city’s positive history and culture. This post regarding regarding nicknames for our city is the type of arrogance birthed from gentrification and the reason why those that have been disenfranchised and relocated due to gentrification are now reacting unfavorably towards the “new” residents. The bottom line is that DC, which I will also still refer to as the Chocolate City because we have an African-American mayor and African-American President who resides here, had and has a culture that was not created by people who relocated here 5 years ago for condos and jobs. If you’d like to hear about that from someone who cries because she remembers when U Street was Black Broadway, Chinatown had huge Chinese New Year parades, and Georgetown had boutiques owned by Italian merchants who greeted you in their native language but now the city is being suburbanized by overpriced condos, dog parks, Harris Teeters, and Starbucks on every corner.
I know that many people do not believe that there are a such thing as a real Washingtonian but my family has been here since slavery. We are successful, college educated, upper middle class Washingtonians who have contributed to the city’s positive history and culture. This post regarding regarding nicknames for our city is the type of arrogance birthed from gentrification and the reason why those that have been disenfranchised and relocated due to gentrification are now reacting unfavorably towards the “new” residents. The bottom line is that DC, which I will also still refer to as the Chocolate City because we have an African-American mayor and African-American President who resides here, had and has a culture that was not created by people who relocated here 5 years ago for condos and jobs. If you’d like to hear about that from someone who cries because she remembers when U Street was Black Broadway, Chinatown had huge Chinese New Year parades, and Georgetown had boutiques owned by Italian merchants who greeted you in their native language but now the city is being suburbanized by overpriced condos, dog parks, Harris Teeters, and Starbucks on every corner, that woud be a relevant discussion.
One more thing: all of the folks who are complaining about the Chocolate City, please give knock down all of these condos that have stole our land and affordable housing, remove your restaurants and lounges out of our theatres, hotels, and community bldgs and go back to your home towns and give us our city, our jobs, and our Metro!
Sure, right. Because history began in 1968.
Is that a Civil Rights crack? DC history surely did not begin in 1998.
This is ridiculous. Since when is DC your city? It has not always been majority african american, particularly prior to the 1960s. Let’s also not forget that african american’s burned down a majority of the NW parts of the city east of 14th street during the MLK riots. I would say rebuilding the neighborhoods that were destroyed was a positive step in the right direction for all DC residents….wouldn’t you??
Are you serious? Do you have any idea what the riots were really about? So, here we go with the we should be thankful for gentrification comment. Wow! Incredible.
Gentriification, like so much else in life, has its pluses and minuses. While U St. might have been “Black Broadway” it also had its share of crack houses and crime not too long ago. Chinatown might have been a lot less generic and didn’t have the bland chains it has now, but instead it had porn stores and other “high culture” businesses. Georgetown might have had Italian merchants back in the day, but it also had the drinking culture that many associate with Adams Morgan now.
Yes, it is depressing to see the same type of condos going up everywhere. It sucks that the vibrant culture that was in DC has significantly diminished. On the other hand, crime is significantly lower than it was in recent decades. People no longer have to leave the District to do a lot of their shopping. It isn’t like all the by-products of gentrification are bad…
So you can be nostaglic all you want, but the quality of life in DC wasn’t exactly amazing at any point in time. Lastly, cities constantly evolve; that’s the life goes.
How about “A Capital City: It’s Washington!”
Dude… If James Brown said it, it was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE…
Chocolate City