Dear PoPville – What Would You Have Done?

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Dear PoPville,

My friend and I had just left Room 11 and were walking west on Park, about 2 blocks from the Target, when we saw a group of black teenage girls walking towards us on the sidewalk. They were taking up the entire width of the walk, and didn’t look like they were going to allow us to pass. My friend and I had two choices: let them run us off the sidewalk or keep walking on our half of the sidewalk. We chose the latter. Consequently, we bumped shoulders with a couple of the girls, who proceeded to call us “white bitches.”

We felt that the girls were deliberately trying to intimidate and provoke us, and we chose to stand our ground. However, others may have behaved differently in this situation – some may have yielded the sidewalk to avoid a confrontation; some would have said “excuse me” or politely asked the girls to share the sidewalk; and some may have used stronger terms.

After the girls called us names, we ignored them and kept walking. Again, others may have responded differently.

What would you have done?

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  • Me, I would’ve walked my way up to them and then maybe stopped and stood aside just as they were going to pass. This way no one gets bumped. But perhaps that’s too nonconfronational.

    In any case, I tend not to get into it with teenagers.

  • i predict 100+ comments

  • try negotiating walking by groups of aggressive drunk white dudes as a group of young black women. this conversation seems totally skewed. yes, they have a right to be on the sidewalk, as do you, but come on! there are lots of dynamics at play here, and i’m not going to begin to go into them because I’m not they’re not welcome on this blog, but young black women (presumably low-income?) have it real tough in columbia heights, and if them taking up the sidewalk makes them feel a little bit better- safer- in the neighborhood, let them have their space.

    • ah

      or try walking along Pennsylvania, Constitution, or nearby streets when school groups are in town in the Spring. They invariably fill the width of the sidewalk because no one wants to be left out. And they nearly as invariably can’t see themselves to step aside.

      fortunately they usually leave out the “white bitches” part.

    • While I probably would have given them their space to avoid any confrontation, I think you’re making some assumptions here that are fueling some of your heated reaction.

      The letter doesn’t say anything about these being “aggressive drunk white dudes,” and from the chosen epithet of “white bitches,” I’d guess the writer and her friend were women as well as the girls on the sidewalk.

    • I am positive kids like this in groups are not taking the entire sidewalk to provide safety – quite the opposite I would say. Trying to provoke a reaction at least looking for trouble at worst.

      I am assuming you and your friend are adults as you just left Room 11. So being the adults you simple should avoid this type of situation – period.

      Gangs of teenagers have no more right to the walk than you however maturity should have dictated your response. In this case I would say it didn’t.

      Would you have stood your ground had it been a car, wild dog, or bull running down the sidewalk. None of that should happen either.

      Adults versus Kids on the sidewalk – Sounds silly doesn’t it

      • +1 to “Gangs of teenagers have no more right to the walk than you however maturity should have dictated your response. In this case I would say it didn’t. Would you have stood your ground had it been a car, wild dog, or bull running down the sidewalk. None of that should happen either.”

        Yes, each group of people walking on the sidewalk should politely make way for the other. But just because someone else decides to be rude doesn’t mean that you should respond in kind.

    • Come on Dany – it sounded like outrageous and racially inflammatory behavior by this group of girls and the racial dynamic was relevant to the story. I am not sure why racism is only ever a one way street.

      • I don’t think the girls are motivated by racism, perhaps class warfare? I am a black dude (not originally from here) and this type of thing happen to me to, and I choose to move to the side to let them pass. Also, I don’t do this just to the teenage black girls or boys, but to grownups seemingly educated groups of all sort of people, including K street type crowed in suit, who, when they are in group situation, always want to go next to each other to keep up with their conversation, at the expense of the incoming traffic… just shake your head, be happy knowing that you are considerate and keep walking.

    • To reply to Dany.

      So, I’m imagine a group of people, teenage girls, who are walking through a place where they do not feel safe. They group together and take up the whole sidewalk so they feel safer. They do this even if it means, hmm, inconveniencing others as they go by. Should any strangers refuse to be pushed off the curb and bump into the teens, because they already do not feel safe, the teens get angry at the strangers. Now, I want you to imagine the strangers also feeling the need to do such things as they, too, do not feel safe. Obviously, they should not feel safe, as they have to worry about groups of strange teens bumping into them and shouting angrily with racist comments at them. Imagine everyone walking down this street not feeling safe, feeling the need to figuratively walk over other people so that they do not feel weak, and feeling the need to retaliate in some form if they are disrespected. I think it is obvious that such a mentality will only make the situation worse.

      • safety is relative– I’m not talking about an immediate since of safety, but rather the fact that their homes are being taken away from them. Their presence in the space is literally threatened because of shitty city planning policies that privilege dollars over real people. That’s the sense of safety that I’m talking about. Marginalize people– especially people of color and women– are in a constant struggle to claim & maintain their own spaces. That’s what I mean when I’m referring to their “safety”.

        • So, I realise this is hardly original but:
          The city is avoiding getting in the way between:
          * previous (minority) landowners who wish to move (perhaps now aged and looking forward to a warm retirement, perhaps just wanting to have the suburban single-family, lawn, and garage), and to get a cash windfall—and thus are happy at how things turned out
          * new residents looking for a home—who are also presumptively happy with how things turned out

          Who is being victimised? The city isn’t “privileging dollars over real people”; the new residents are real people too, and the city isn’t doing much to encourage or discourage private residential transactions. Why should it?

          The issue isn’t the space solely, but the comments. None of us, black, white, or other, would tolerate the reverse racial slurs. Why are you (dany) so wiling to overlook these?

      • safety is relative– I’m not talking about an immediate since of safety, but rather the fact that their homes are being taken away from them. Their presence in the space is literally threatened because of shitty city planning policies that privilege dollars over real people. That’s the sense of safety that I’m talking about. Marginalize people– especially people of color and women– are in a constant struggle to claim & maintain their own spaces. That’s what I mean when I’m referring to their “safety”.

        Also, when did these young women become “a gang” ????

        • That’s totally ridiculous. Teenagers aren’t obnoxious because they’re expressing angst over gentrification or city planning policies or whatever, they’re just acting like obnoxious teenagers. Oh brother…

    • you could be correct about your sidewalk etiquette, but the comment “white bitches” is entirely unnecessary … had these two white women said a comparable comment to the black teens there would be riots in the streets

  • My technique is to stop and stand in place on my half of the sidewalk. That way they either bump into you, or they go around. But if you’re not moving, it sends a pretty clear signal.

    • Agree. Whenever I encounter that situation (groups of people coming toward me on the sidewalk), I just stop walking, and they are forced to go around me. I have never had a confrontation by using that strategy.

      • Add eye contact, a genuine smile and a pleasant greeting and the “mean bossy group” – whether teenage girls, general yobs or clueless schoolkids – will be taken off-guard and usually yield.

        Always give people the chance to be better than they really might be.

        • like saying “how do you do , sir/maam?” and tip my hat (imaginary or real). i bet that would really catch them off guard.

    • Agree. This is what I do. It always makes the person/people walk around you and they can’t really say anything about it because I am, literally, not doing anything.

  • I would have done what you did or chosen the Meg option. I like to think I have better things to do than get into petty confrontations with people who don’t have better things to do.

  • I would have done the same thing, except maybe not emailed PoP and started the comment race war that is about to happen.

  • Don’t let them have their space. It’s just as much your sidewalk as it is theirs. They only become more emboldened, and having it “rough” in Columbia Heights isn’t an excuse to be rude.

    This constant rationalizing and apologizing for youth, especially minority youth, in the District is out of control and needs to stop.

  • I sure wouldn’t have written PoP about it. That’s what I would have done.

  • Things usually go one way or another when I ask “Do you blow your daddy with that mouth?” when someone makes a comment like that to me.

  • I would have just moved out of the way for them because frankly, I do it all the time and it doesn’t really bother me. Whether it’s a group of teens, a family of tourists, or just a few people moseying down the sidewalk, I just walk around them because frankly I have better things to worry about than picking a fight or making a point on the sidewalk with strangers.

  • I can’t answer without knowing what exactly you were looking for. From your account, you knew you would collide directly with these girls but kept walking anyway. Did you want a confrontation or were you simply trying to make a point?

  • Teenagers do stupid things, especially when they are in large groups. I would have kept walking just as OP did and chalked it up to them being young and dumb. I often find myself saying, “Excuse you” in an audible voice to rude people on a daily basis.

  • I find this to be a problem period, whether you are black or white. I have encountered the “I’m not going to walk behind my walking partner so that you may pass without walking in the grass/dirt.” with whites also. This is not a color thing, it’s a lack of “manners” thing.

    • fully agree that this is a manners thing. I grew up in a middle class suburb and this stuff happened there with teenagers too. No matter what race, teenagers in larger groups are going to lack manners and I think its important (again no matter what race) to point out when they are doing so.

  • Stand your ground. We’re all entitled to equal treatment (whether you’re the gentrifying white or the born and raised “urban” youth).

    The more teenagers think they can push people around, the worse off it is for everyone else. Hold your ground, even if it means the occasional trip to the ER. In the end, the community wins even if we have to suffer collateral damage here and there.

    I noticed a large difference in “urban” youth in my personal experiences when comparing NY to DC. If you’re a punk kid in NY and try shoving your way around and disrespecting adults, there’s a very good chance you’ll get a beat down from someone pretty quick. Have that same attitude/mentality in DC and watch everyone else cower in fear from you.

    • So add that to the list of things NY is better at:

      1. pizza
      2. bagels
      3. bars that don’t expect customers to buy a single thing when playing backgammon
      4. putting teenagers in their place

      IMO, I think you’ve just been fortunate in NYC. Teens like this are everywhere…

      • Definitely better bagels and pizza in NY. But screw that guy who expects to sit in a bar and not order anything. He definitely does not speak for us native NY’ers one bit.

        • Everything you say here is completely untrue. its true that its part of the machismo narrative that a certain set of insecure NYers project, but its not a reflection of reality.

    • “Hold your ground, even if it means the occasional trip to the ER.”


      I understand that it’s frustrating to feel intimidated into taking a course of action (i.e., yielding) that you’d prefer not to take, but is it really worth the risk of injury to do otherwise?

  • I don’t understand why anyone would choose any action which could result in confrontation with someone you thought was “deliberately trying to intimidate and provoke” you. Sure they could have been sweet nice girls, and its quite possible that they were acting tougher than they are. But you don’t know that – all you know is that you thought they wanted to mess with you. Why would you invite that opportunity?

  • Not sure why you’re playing the innocent role when it’s clear you were also looking for a confrontation. You saw that you would were headed into a collision with the group and elected to continue moving forward instead of taking the needed 1-2 seconds to move to the side and let them pass by without bumping shoulders. In my younger, dumber days, my friends and I would only display such passive-aggression when we were looking to start something.

    Sorry but mentioning that this group of teens was black didn’t blind me to the fact that you knowingly took a path that would lead to you making physical contact with them. You knew what you were doing and what would happen.

  • This really annoys me, no matter WHO is blocking the sidewalk! Common courtesy, people, common courtesy! Unfortunately, I’m too non-confrontational to do anything but glare and mutter under my breath as I move around them.

  • You sought a confrontation. You got one. Good on ya.

  • Once a guy groped my girlfriend in the Georgetown area and I pushed him onto M street hoping a taxi would clip his knees. No such luck. Teenagers are a**ssholes. In a city they’ll be brown, in the suburbs they’ll be white, but they’re all a**ssholes

  • Also, what does it say that you have two groups walking on a public sidewalk at the same time and it’s assumed that the group of black teens are the ones who should be moving off of the sidewalk to give the white girls room to pass?

    • I’m pretty sure the OP was just suggesting that they should share the sidewalk. Park isn’t that narrow there.

    • Ridiculous comment. A sidewalk should work like a two-way street. If everyone sticks to the right half of the sidewalk, there would be no need for this. Regardless of race, the group spread across the entire width, rather than sticking to the right side in their direction of foot traffic, should move.

      • not a ridiculous comment. this is social dynamic. in a perfect world everyone would respect everyone else, but in a country where not too long ago, blacks had to give up bus seats to individuals simply due to their color, it’s easy to see how this would translate into other arenas… this is REAL

        • Maybe this is a generational thing. I’m in no way trying to be snarky, and I have no idea how old you are or what the society you grew up in is like. But having had this conversation with people around my own age (early-mid 20s), “not so long ago” (read: the 60’s, pre-Civil Rights movement) doesn’t or shouldn’t apply to today’s social issues to the degree that some older folks believe. I’m quite sure that there are lasting social impacts of the way black people were treated before the Civil Rights era, and we see them every day. The point is- shouldn’t decency and respect trump that in today’s society? Wouldn’t a great legacy of the civil rights movement be to treat everyone equally in terms of respect, rather than shouting racial epithets?

        • I don’t think those teens remember those days

    • Chris – the rules of the sidewalk dictate that people should be able to pass in both directions. I would wager that if you are taking up the entire sidewalk to move in one direction you should move to allow people to pass in the same direction. Making this about black kids having to move for the white girls is just inflammatory and wrong. Get some perspective dude.

  • Walk around. Be humble. Somebody doing wrong will be humbled in due time.

  • What your letter writer did seems just about right.

  • Say “scume” next time?

  • pennyworth

    you did the right thing. hold your ground. and remember what you represent to kids like this. they’re not mad at you; they’re mad at what you represent.

  • I had this exact same situation happen, except it was oncoming lycranauts riding three abreast on the W&OD trail. They were totally over the centerline, so I crashed into them head on, because you know, who the fuck are they?

    What would you have done?

    • Love this! Lycranauts ha ha. They nearly creamed me while I was pushing a double stroller on Beach Drive one Sunday. You are NOT Lance Armstrong and Beach Drive is not the freaking Tour De France. And do they get off wearing those silly outfits?

  • You are entitled to your half of the sidewalk, but when I encounter this in the neighborhood I usually just step aside to steer clear of any issues. However, I had an experience Tuesday evening on the H4 during rush hour where a confrontation could not be avoided. A group of teenage boys kept walking down the aisle past me, rub against me and then loudly scream “tell that white bitch to stop grabbing my ass.” I removed my headphones, stood up to face them and let them know that touching me one more time would have consequences. After loudly cursing at me several more times they retreated to the back of the bus, where they threw trash at me until I announced I was about the call metro police.

    When its avoidable, avoid it. When you can’t, stand your ground.

    • Did you actually use the words “your actions will have consequences” or something similar? Not flaming you at all; I’m curious…I can’t imagine there’s much you can say that would diffuse the situation.

      • It was something along those lines, I wanted to keep it diplomatic because there were a lot of even younger kids on the bus. You are so right though, not a lot of rational conversation to be had in face of ass grabbing accusations!

  • I would have just avoided them. Most teenagers don’t think rationally and when in larger groups feel emboldened to do and say awful things. And they seem to gain particular pleasure intimidating and provoking adults. You’re not going to “teach them a lesson” by engaging with them in any form (positive or negative) when they’re in a group. Just yield the sidewalk. You shouldn’t have to but a confrontation is not worth the effort.

  • There is something about large groups that amps up the natural assholeness of teens. Doubt any of them would have acted the same way if it was just one of them walking down the street. Most DC teens are more mouth than action, so stand your ground and give them a lesson.

  • Lay about wildly with your silver-topped walking stick and yell “LET YOUR BETTERS PASS!” This always works for me.

    • That’s hilarious.

      Back to the original topic, rolling — or rather, walking — blockades on the sidewalk annoy me, too, no matter who’s doing it or why. Sometimes it’s sheer cluelessness; other times it really is people being inconsiderate, selfish, or deliberately obnoxious. I usually do what some others have said: stop dead in my tracks and make them go around me. I also often act preoccupied by something else (looking at my watch, brushing imaginary dirt off my sleeve) when I stop, and I’ve never had anyone say anything to me. It’s petty, I know, but at least I’ve made them part the waters.

    • It works on escalators!

  • Once they pull out that crap you have to respond with wit. I would use either of the following “That’s Ms. White Bitch to you” or “YOU MAD”

    • Best comment – though I think the OP and pal were purposefullly forcing a confrontation. In the letter the OP states as much.
      If it was three old ladies whould the OP have done the same. Civility and reason go hand and hand. Cede a bit of sidewalk and make the city just a bit nicer.

  • feral youth.

    keep walkin’ with your head held high.

  • Have them arrested for assault and ask that it be treated as a hate crime. I wish people of color didn’t have such chips on their shoulders against people of noncolor.

    I just wonder if the young black man who sexually assaulted a mother at 5th and Webster St NW did his crime on a young black mother, a white mother, a chinese mother, or a latin mother. And whether it matters to anyone what race he chose to attack.

    • So, you know all black people?

      • Very very fortunately, no, especially all the young black males I see every day in DC wearing all black, showing their underwear, hiding weapons, and, kind of pretending to be world class gangster thugs, and even more better, not the huge and growing list on homicide watch dc, or the ones calling each other N*&%^& on the train. And what’s with the freakin’ armed ski mask robberies?

        • If they are hiding weapons, how do you know they have them? Are you some Jack Bauer type that can spot a concealed snub nose?

  • Why didn’t you do the polite thing and say “excuse me please”? People like to be respected.

    • That’s exactly what I was going to say. What’s so wrong with being polite in this situation? The teenagers shouldn’t have been hogging the sidewalk or using racial slurs, but the OP was kinda rude with her behavior as well.

  • Boy, what a waste of effort. Sure everyone’s entitled to the use of the sidewalk and maybe it would have be supre-polite if that the group of kids had re-grouped into a single-file line in order to honor your entitlement and share the sidewalk with you. However, it was probably also equally clear that that was not going to happen, so why not just get out of the way and eliminate the issue? Is staking your claim to 50% of the sidewalk all that important? Did the result satisfy your needs? Did you teach the girls something useful? Is it something you really want to be carrying around still? Was any of it worth repeating when the same situation occurs again?

  • Teenagers are usually obnoxious. The racist comment, however, is what is likely bothering you because of the double standard.

    Black people are allowed to be racist. Just accept it and move on.

  • Arguing with fools…

    I really like this website, even though I hate questions like these. I like to know what the anonymous (white) person thinks about when they encounter brown people in DC.

    I understand how people can feel intimidated by teenagers. I also understand that everyone (even brown people) are just a little bit racist/prejudiced.

    But these are everyday/common sense situations! People, get off of the internet – we are living in a society here! (as I post on a blog)

    1. Gasp! I had to step aside to let people pass me. The horror.
    2. Or, I chose to get into it with some young punks, to take a stand against reverse racism.
    3. I need to ask someone about the situation because I’ve never had to cede my ground on a sidewalk. Even though I do it many times a day.

  • next time you’re on the street, take a moment to observe. you’ll be surprised at the dynamic. white people tend to be stay their course, while black people move out of their way. because of this, you’ll find a lot of black people who deliberately stay their course as not to have to “move for the white man”. it is what it is.

  • Gladys would have kicked some butt…, white or yellow makes no difference, it’s a matter of respecting one’s elders (even if the elders are not that old)… today need to learn some respect

  • Encourage a bunch of college educated 20-somethings, bars, restaurants, salons and boutiques to move into the neighborhood and drive up rent, slowly pushing lower-income families into the suburbs to find affordable housing. That oughta do it.

    • In a conversation just now with a friend about this post:
      Me: I usually just feel sorry for kids like this. Either it’s a dumb punk phase that they look back on and frown as adults that they ever acted that way or they’re actually dumb punks and this will eventually grow into a behaviour that gets them killed.
      Friend: I usually feel sorry for them too. Till I remember that in fifteen years, I’m still gonna be living here, walking these streets, enjoying this neighborhood, and they will have long since been priced out and had to move far far away 🙂 Then I just feel happy for me!
      me: *facepalm*

      • That is one way to look at it I suppose but I assume you will still encounter this behavior on the Metro and other places. I am a big guy and I would have yielded sidewalk to the teens. An adult who recognizes a potentially tense encounter with a non-adult is under an obligation not to let it escalate, you have to be the bigger person. It is terrible that they called the women names. I doubt they even know why they called the women “white bitches” and I bet they have called a few women “black bitches” in their travels. I am about to show my age but ‘back in the day’ black kids would barely call an adult by their first name, let alone curse at an adult. Giving up your seat on the bus to an older woman was mandatory. Parenting is now lacking.

        The kids today are so angry I genuinely wish I could do something for them.

  • I’m a huge racebaiter. :D. But really this has nothing to do with race. MOST people don’t know how to get the f*ck out of the way. They just talk and don’t look where they’re going, I doubt it’s about intimidation just entitlement.

    To the humans of earth: Sidewalking is a bit like driving. You walk on the RIGHT, you don’t walk more than TWO abreast, be courteous and let those walking faster than you pass by. The difference is I have no problems running you over if you refuse to get out of my way. And I would expect the same treatment if I were the offender.

  • I wouldn’t get into it with teens in this city because, male or female, they could pop a cap in your ass.
    Feel sorry for them because whether they are dumb ass suburban or urban teens, in 10 years they’ll be lucky to be making 35 grand a year and will probably be wearing a name tag at work. The ones in thr group who aren’t assholes will grow out of it.

  • There’s an old saying that applies here: “Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. The pig likes it, and all you get is dirty.”

  • am i the only one who sees this as a perfect sharks v jets scenario? seriously, just lower your shoulders and melodically snap your way through the gauntlet. then throw up jazzhands at the last minute.

  • I have had this happen to me time and time again, with groups of various races, ages, etc. And I always gave way, almost mindlessly. I never thought much about it until I learned about this thing called “boundaries”. It stipulates that we all have to live in this world together, and in order to do so well, we must learn to respect proper boundaries and learn to enforce our own when others do not respect them. We all act carelessly from time to time, and when we do we should say “excuse me” or “I’m sorry” or at the very least, just keep going. The girls who were taking up the sidewalk were clearly in the wrong, and that they verbally attacked the other two just demonstrates how disconnected from reality they are.

    • This is one side of this story and because this person is telling the story doesn’t mean it’s completely true.

  • And to those of you who suggested that teenagers or African Americans should be exempted due to either youthful stupidity or fear….shame on you. Shame on you for advocating laziness in our approach to how our youth is being shaped, and for being racist in basically asserting that African Americans are somehow incapable of handling the very real pressures of today’s world in a civilized manner. If you’re white, you would (I presume) be ashamed of a white person handling the situation in that fashion. Give African Americans the same respect.

  • How often do you encounter groups of people trying to squeeze into a side walk? Let them have it. I think it shows that you respect their friendship and you don’t want them to separate if you can help it, and it shows to them that you were nice to let them pass together.

  • The best post thread ever (since the last race-related one)

    To go off the deep end, here is what I would handle each group…

    The African American Sidewalk Sisters: let them have their sidewalk. If they are truly incosiderate, reverse racist, & taunting, they will either be working these sidewalks or sleeping on them. The future is right around the cornder 🙂

    As for the sidewalk sororoty sisters, breathe & laugh. Ignorant teenagers are making you contemplate things which have no bearing on your life. Get over it & go around. Trying to rationalize with teens (& especially extra ignorant like these girls) is not your responsibility – that’s their missing parents’ responsibility 🙂

  • Not as awesome as the time I was walking with my wife and her mother down Irving (between 13th and 14th) going two abreast and this older man waved at us and said “Get the f*&^ out the way, I’m a veteran!”. Fun times in the city. Conversely, it could be a situation where these folks have it in for you and rob you. Best not to get into that problem.

  • PoP- why post this question? Is this *really* legitimate for reasons other than comment-boosting and race-baiting? I appreciate race/”race relations” as an important part of life in DC, but can we not be a little bit more thoughtful about how we approach it? Please?

    • Exactly. Especially since this exact scenario has been discussed in numerous threads before. Nothing gets PoP page views like a thread about race.

      • Prince Of Petworth

        I’m sorry to inform you that there were not more page views as a result of this post (in fact there were fewer.) But I do love how obsessed some of you are with visitor statistics. I’m sorry sometimes topics discussed can be uncomfortable. I too often wish life were only beautiful buildings and trader joes (incidentally grocery store conversation brings far more page views since that is apparently of great interest to you.) I’m not saying what opinion of this incident you should have (you’ll note there are varied opinions) but if you’d rather pretend that these incidents simply aren’t occurring, well, that is your prerogative. Not posting an email written in about it is not gonna change the reality.

        • From where I’m standing, it’s not that this question brings up uncomfortables issues, but rather that it’s trite and unimportant. Letters like this asking questions about basic life skills make the OP’s look ridiculous.

          • Agreed. As a gay man, I’ve been called several names by random people on the street in the past. Guess I was silly to brush it off and get on with my life. In the future, I’ll make SURE to submit something to PoPville so I can get everyone’s thoughts on it.

          • Remember “Seinfeld”? The entire show was based around seemingly banal issues involving “basic life skills”. This is where most of us live most of our lives, in the banal. I’m sure you feel that you have far more pressing issues to consider on a daily basis, but if you pay attention, I bet you find yourself discussing these very same types of issues with friends all the time. Given the number of replies, I would say that those who have posted that this topic is not worthy of print or discussion are not only in the minority, but are being intellectually dishonest as well.

          • Do you mean it is not as important as another overpriced food place negotiating a lease somewhere in the city?
            POP looks more like some restaurant review blog nowdays.
            Bring a real issue to discuss and the foodies get uncomfortable.
            Get a life.

  • Reading this your question, it sounds like you saw a few black teenagers, grew immediately on edge about their use of the public sidewalk and decided to feel oppressed by that and take revenge. As white people living in the DC community, we have to check our privilege/assumptions and certainly not let them run amok with such to the point where you’re fighting for space with teenagers. I think shhmedium sums up the whole situation best.

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