Dear PoPville – Life in Ledroit?

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“Dear PoPville,

My husband and I are seriously considering purchasing a home in Ledroit Park. We love the houses, the neighborhood feel, the new dog park and playground. Last night we looked up crime statistics on the DC gov page and found a significant spike in crime comparing this year to last year, particularly robbery and theft. It seems the new park on Elm street is attracting drug dealers and late night party-ers or loiterers. What a shame for the new neighborhood asset to quickly become a magnet for this activity. (There is interest in putting up a fence, but it does not exist yet.)

I wonder if that’s part of the crime story? Considering the pace of gentrification in this area I was surprised. Do you have any insight or thoughts on this? Is this an upward trend for Ledroit? What is being done to address growing crime?”

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  • some crimes have been going up. if you are street smart you can probably deal with it. LeDroit Park is one of the best neighborhoods in the city, in my opinion.

  • In general, I dont appreciate the tone of this “Dear PoP”. Typically I want to make strides to encourage people to move to my neighborhood, but my first impression of this writer is that they are not a good fit. Whatever house you’re looking at will be bought by someone who, I think, will be a better neighbor – so I encourage you to allow them the opportunity.

    • I hope you see the irony in your post – “I have a great neighborhood full of great neighbors but we don’t want you because of an honest question!” OP used fact-based statistics to ask an honest question. Let’s help them answer it.

    • Curious, what about her post rubbed you the wrong way?

      • I suspect this person is insecure about anyone even questioning the safety of his/her neighborhood, so they are simply reacting by disliking the OP. The reality, though, is the OP sounds like an ideal neighbor if only because he or she sounds like they are safety conscious and concerned about quality of life. These are the people you WANT living next door to you!

        • I don’t believe for a second that “anon” (of “you’re not a good fit for my neighborhood”) lives in Ledroit.

        • i thought it was about “the fence”.

        • i think it was the comment, “Considering the pace of gentrification in this area I was surprised”….

          to some that translates to: “with so many white people moving to the area, i’m surprised crime has gone up”

          • To be fair (to myself), I’m pretty sure thats what she meant. As a relatively recent white person, I resent it. I think there needs to be an appropriate level of nuance that is understood when talking about this area and gentrification.

          • I know gentrifiers of all colors, do you only know white ones?

    • Thanks for the heads up that LeDroit Park is home to at least one insufferable jerk.

    • You should all just move down south a bit to Truxton Circle. Our housing stock may not be quite as nice as LeDroit Park – but it’s still old and good-looking, plus we’re friendly! We have a crime problem – but it is getting better and the neighborhood is active in combatting it. Plus you can walk to anywhere!

    • Seriously??? What is wrong with OP post????? They’re concerned about crime. That’s what I got. That offends you?

    • I agree with Anon. Sounds like the writer belongs in a tiny condo in Dupont where she can feel nice and safe and avoid anyone who doesn’t look like her or have the same socioeconomic background and status.

      • Co-Signed. If they are so concerned about LeDroit Park they are writing an open letter to a blog about safety, they would not be comfortable anywhere near the area.

  • You just have to pretend that thugs don’t live in masses across the street from the park. It is a decent neighborhood, but you have losers roaming the streets looking for nothing better to do, so their are muggings at times. Just don’t walk around with your headphones on and yacking away on your phone. The neighborhood is continuing to change for the better, that is for sure. In the meantime you have to deal with the vagrants that still call it home.

    • vagrant- A person without a settled home or regular work who wanders from place to place and lives by begging.

      Bdale, are you sure this is the word you meant to use?

  • I don’t know much about Ledroit, but I know that before I put in an offer on my house in a transitional locale I drove by after dark a few times. Then I walked by at various times of night and using different routes (from metro, from grocery store, from bus, etc.).

    Ultimately I was comfortable with what I saw and I bought it. Happy to this day.

    Some people on this blog will say Ledroit is amazing, others will call it a hell-hole (I personally have always thought it is nice, but as I said I am no expert). You have to feel it for yourself.

    Oh and the exact location of your house matters, in my opinion. My block is great, but a couple south (I’m looking at you Harvard and Fairmont), not so much.

    Anyway–put some boots on the ground and you’ll know if you like it or not!

  • We bought a house in Le Droit almost two years ago and absolutely love the neighborhood. It’s certainly not crime-free but e have not noticed an uptick in crime and don’t feel any less safe than anywhere else in DC (the only place I’ve personally been a victim of crime in DC was in Georgetown!). The new park has had teething problems but mostly that seems to be people not picking up their trash and some petty vandalism. So I would not let the crime statistics scare you off. The only issue we’ve experienced is noisy, late night parties from the houses rented by HU and Georgetown student. But for us that’s definitely a price worth paying to live in what we’ve found to be one of DC’s nicest and most friendly neighborhoods…

  • We lived there for two years before buying in Columbia Heights/Petworth. It is a great neighborhood and seems to just be getting better. Residential feel but close to urban benefits like walking to coffee, food, bar, metro. We would have liked to buy there but nothing affordable came up when we were looking – the neighborhood is hot and decent houses go off the market quickly.

    We never had a problem in LeDroit Park – walking the dog late night or running early morning. Anywhere in the city you will have to deal with crime. When I lived in the suburbia of Cleveland Park we had attempted break-ins. And yes, if you are afraid of living near people who live in housing projects you are probably not a good fit for the neighborhood.

    • Where are the housing projects, exactly?

      • It’s called Kelly Miller and is being rehabbed right now. It’s on V between 2nd and 4th, I think. Expect many new residents in the next few years as rehab is completed.

        There is also a small apartment building type project and a senior housing project right around there too. I don’t know the names though.

  • While there are issues with teens hanging in the park and getting up to stuff (and I’m one who thinks a fence is probably a good idea), I don’t think the park has anything to do with any increase in crime that can be observed on the stats. The folks that are hanging out in the park at night would be hanging out (and before the park opeened were hanging out) just across the street in the courtyard if the park wasn’t there.

    We’ve seen many occassional upticks in crime described by the OP several times in the 10 years I’ve lived here. My personal theory is that these upticks are caused by particular criminals or groups who increase their activity until they are caught or move on for other reasons.

    There is definitely a criminal element still present in the community, and that’s definitely a bad thing. But I think it’s much smaller than in the past and it’s diminishing.

    I also think that because of the changes in the neighborhood, there are more “targets” for muggings and property crimes, and that these folks are much more likely to report the incidents to the police and through social media than in the past.

    I suspect that if the OP looked at crime stats for other similar neighborhoods in DC, he/she would see similar upticks from time to time.

  • I live in Bloomingdale north of Rhode Island and 1.5 blocks from Ledroit. I moved to Bdale from Alexandria a year ago and, not being an urban pioneer, was worried about crime. However, I walk my dog through the neighborhood every night and feel safe. Most of the time, there are others walking around, too. From what I’ve seen, the crime in the area is mainly petty theft.

    Ledroit is an extremely unique neighborhood given its proximity to downtown and the metro as well as its many free-standing homes. It’s like an urban village, and residents are social and proud to live there.

    Homes in these neighborhoods don’t come on the market often, though, and, when they do, they sell pretty quickly.

    Good luck in your search!

  • Let’s not forget that Ledroit may have the best housing stock in the whole city. Beautiful, beautiful homes.

  • I am the author of the question – (Thanks POP for posting!) I appreciate the insight and first hand annecdotes that POP readers are offering here. The gist of my question is this: Is Ledroit heading in the wrong direction? Is crime really on the rise?
    The answers above that indicate 1. the activity in the park was there anyway (and not new) and 2. more vigilant and invested neighbors means more incident reporting suggest that Ledroit is still headed in the “right” direction.
    Does anyone feel differently? Does anyone think Ledroit is regressing? That it is not on a path to becoming a safer place?

    • houseintherear

      It’s not regressing.

    • My $.02 — there’s no way that crime is getting worse.

    • You’re probably not going to get an unbiased answer to that question on this blog. The commenters that praise the architecture in LeDroit are right – there are many beautiful homes and it’s a unique neighborhood. On the other hand, the crime statistics don’t lie. Despite the anecdotal evidence that Cleveland Park and Georgetown can be dangerous, clearly the dangers in LeDroit Park are significantly greater right now. You just have to decide if what you’ve researched adds up to a bad trend, or whether it’s just an aberration. Chances are that if you buy there, you’ll have to put up with the growing pains associated with any gentrifying neighborhood. But the commenters on this blog who live in LeDroit Park have strong feelings about the neighborhood and that might augur well for progress there.

    • As the initial poster above, I appreciate some of the clarification.

      I dont think the neighborhood is regressing. Given national and city-based trends, as well as looking at how much people are willing to pay to live in LeDroit, a depreciation in asset value or a sustained level of crime higher than 2009/2010 levels seems unlikely.

      That said, even when crime was lower, LeDroit Park and surrounding neighborhoods are not without their problems. Crime happens at a frequency that makes most people unhappy. I do not see the new park as being a catalyst for this activity and i know of no legitimate logical explanation to say that it is. Parks dont create criminals, parents do.

      My prediction is that if you live in LeDroit, you will have many years of not being the victim of violent crime but you will have many instances where you will be worried about it.

      In all, I dont think that a centrally located neighborhood like LeDroit is going to move in a statistically significant different direction than other neighborhoods in DC. So, will LeDroit regress compared with Petworth, H Street, Hill East, Shaw? I doubt it. If anything happens, the whole city will be worse, you won’t be sitting in LeDroit saying “holy shit, I bought a house and now it looks like some post-apocalyptic video game and the rest of DC is all roses.”

    • Honestly – I was on your side until you asked this question. Please don’t move here. We do not need yet another paranoid person who locks themselves in their house and only comes out to get in their car and drive somewhere.

      Many of us have worked VERY hard to make the neighborhood a better place and if you do your homework (ie, talking to people in the area, looking at crime data over a longer period, driving around at night, seeing the development on U st/Florida, etc) you should be able to make your decision.

      • Okay, but if you’re working so hard to make it safe and there’s a huge uptick in crime, how on earth could you blame someone for being concerned? Don’t let your love for the neighborhood cloud its realities.

        • This is exactly the kind of crap that is created by this question. There is no HUGE uptick in crime, at least if there is, we dont know about it yet.

          There are trends and there are events. A lot of similar events make a trend. Right now we have a few events, at best.

          Besides, someone just said MPD has said LeDroit has lower crime.

          It sounds like the person asking the question ran a DC Crime Map search on the address in question and saw that crime has gone up year over year. This doesnt create a crisis.

  • houseintherear

    I also live in Bloomingdale, about a block from Ledroit. I think this area is a hidden gem. In other areas of the city where I’ve lived previously, knowing your neighbor’s name was rare. Now, I have worried people knocking on my door if my car hasn’t been parked in my backyard for more than a day, and neighbors who know me and my dog and are great new friends. And they’re not all young and white, which I really like. Some of my neighbors have been in the area for over 50 years, and are quick to tell you the cool stories if you ask.

    I think this is a good area if you’re a person who is not worried about issues dealing with race or wealth, and if you are street smart. Most of the muggings have been related to visible phones or iPods, and the only car break-ins I’ve heard about have been because a valuable item was left in sight.

    And as a side note, I just got an appraisal and my house has gone up over $70k in value in three years. To me, that’s worth not being able to talk on the phone when I walk down the street at night!

    • I applaud you for this post. Being born & raised in LeDroit Park on a street where the houses have been in the family since the 50s, I know that this area is very neighborly. I LOVE your comment about not worrying about race or wealth and that you get to know your neighbors. I think this is the BIGGEST issue some DC natives I know have with those moving in. You don’t know who your neighbors are until you actually talk to them!

  • I’ve lived in LeDroit for 6 years now. I have to believe if there is an uptick in crime, it is because more people are reporting crimes that used to go unreported. This neighborhood is completely different (in a very good way) from the day we moved in. One of the earlier posters is right, you need be street smart (true everywhere) but it is a much safer place than it was 6 years ago.

  • Why don’t you share said “crime statistics”? Where exactly are you searching for the data and how?

    At last night’s LeDroit Park Civic Association meeting, Officer Higgins of the MPD said that LeDroit is the safest area in the 3rd District. The uptick in crime in other neighborhoods has not affected LeDroit.

  • Allow me the chance to respond, I do not live within the boundaries of LeDroit, but I do consider them neighbors because I am that close.

    What rubbed me the wrong way was:

    “I wonder if that’s part of the crime story? Considering the pace of gentrification in this area I was surprised.”


    “It seems the new park on Elm street is attracting drug dealers and late night party-ers or loiterers.”

    Neither statement is evidence based, and both will tend to incite tension from various populations.

    This type of attitude is, in my opinion, unwelcome.

    If you want to ask the question, is crime a problem? Yes, it is. Is it on the rise? Maybe, we have several years of decline with a recent, localized, increase. Is a PARK the reason for this? Probably not. Are there reasons that it may get worse? Yes. Are there reasons it might get better? Yes.

    I dont think I’m being unreasonable. People need to be aware of how their words can project a bias or preconceptions. People in this area are working hard to build consensus on issues, we’ve avoided many of the the stereotypical gentrifying vs old guard dynamic that has developed in other neighborhoods, yet an amazing amount of positive change has been accomplished in a short period of time.

    However, I’ve seen first-hand the bias that some residents have and its not helpful. Making generalizations like “the park is causing crime” isnt going to sit well. In truth, we have a very small sample to evaluate.

    In all, I think the question could have been asked with less overt bias and in a more tactful way. I am not a sensitive person, so I think its fair to say others, even if they dont post, would feel this way too.

    Also, if someone objects to my use of “bias”, fine. If its not bias, its definitely a rush to judgment or a hasty attempt to form an opinion that fits with one’s preconceptions and confirm an overall viewpoint.

    • Obviously I dont know how to use blog comments. This was meant for the dust-up above.

    • +1 I agree that the tone of this is just another example of commenters pitting one group against another whether consciously or subconsciously. And im not sure exactly what remedy a fence would offer, if anything I tend to think it would lend more hard feelings between the different groups of ppl currently living in this community.

    • I think you rushed to judgement too. Plus, someone called it above, you don’t even live there. Get back to work.

    • it still does not warrant you making comments like “please don’t move here, let someone else”. especially since you don’t even live there!

      please get off the high horse.

    • Oh please. What a ridiculous interpretation of neighbors. So, I’ve got to ask. In this instance, what 2 people are more considered neighbors by you? 1 person lives across 2nd street from another (1 in LeDroit and 1 in Bloomingdale), or one person lives by big bear and the other lives on crispus attucks park (both in bloomingdale).

      I live closer to LeDroit Park than I do to most of the rest of my neighborhood. I consider Truxton, Bloomingdale, Eckington, and LeDroit, as well as parts of Shaw – my neighborhood. If I am there frequently and care about the decisions that are made, those are my neighbors.

      its fine that you have such a parochial view of the world, but not everyone else does.

      Have a nice day.

    • well said

  • Gentrification is not a good thing. Please quit praising this!

    • It’s not a blanket bad thing either.

      Although I’m also uncomfortable when it is uniformly praised.

      • Agreed.

        If gentrification means that I can feel safer when I walk down the street at night, that people don’t litter (or don’t litter as much), and are more involved in community affairs, then it’s a good thing.

        The more-PC-than-thou types need to stop thinking of gentrification as a uniformly bad thing.

        (Ironically, it seems many of the more-PC-than-thou types _are_ the early gentrifiers… they just don’t perceive themselves as such.)

    • it may not be good for some individuals, but you can’t say it’s not good for the city.

      • It depends on what your definition of gentrification is. If you believe that gentrification means a higher tax base and more amenities, with lower crime, then it is absolutely a good thing. However, if you mean gentrification as the gradual increase in the cost of living, neighbors and friends moving, and the loss of connections to a community you were once a pillar of.

        I like that the city has changed with a lot more to offer and it is a lot safer. However, this change doesnt happen in a vacuum.

        People need to remember Newton’s 3rd law of physics.

  • OP: You might want to check out other neighborhood blogs, like LeftforLedroit:

  • The fact that there is an uptick in crime is indicative of an gentrifying area. When you have young, educated, employed people buying 4, 5, 7 hundred thousand dollar homes mixed in with the destitute what do you expect. The same happened in Columbia Heights. Give it a bit of time and the crime rate will become much lower as those who have owned for decades decide to sell, and those that have rented for decades will be priced out.

    • I agree with this. I recently moved to the area, and Ive noticed a bit of uptick in robbery/theft and I think its just a factor of rapidly increasing wealth in the area. It didnt use to be the case that well-to-do folks were hiking the mile to the Shaw metro, but now that happens every day. You just need to be smart about surroundings. I suspect that some of these thieves will be caught and/or you will see some more police presence and then the problem will subside.

    • This is bad advice. There is ingrained public housing in both LeDroit and Columbia Heights that isn’t going anywhere. LeDroit will always have a huge income disparity among residents.

    • man, I don’t know. I felt safer in col heights before it got dc usa.

      • same for chinatown. money has made that place suck.

      • Weird you say that..I’m actually working on a graduate project over this particular concern!

      • I wonder if it has to do with the income disparity being so obvious all the time. when poor people are surrounded by other poor people and not richies that have stuff they can’t afford, they probably feel better about life. when I walked around kalorama last weekend I swear I could understand robbing one of those mansions. it sucks to be constantly reminded you’re a have-not.

        hasn’t this been documented in happiness studies? no matter you’re income, you’re happiest if you’re not on the bottom of the totem pole in your community?

        • i have no doubt that comes into play. even where i come from flaunting shit got you a beat down. and we were far better off than a lot of kids in this area.

          i’ve got all i want in this world, but when i see some skinny wonk walking down the street with his earbud in and iphone out, i have an urge to swipe it.

          as a child, i may not have, but my friends sure would have.

          • I think its closer to the opposite…. television/movies/media make the poor quite aware of their station in society.

        • maybe it has to do with that song that now plays NON STOP on the damn radio all the time “all the other kids with their pumped up kicks, better run, better run, faster than my bullet…”

    • not sure they “decide” to sell.. especially with this economy, I see a lot of people who have owned for decades being forced to sell…

      • by “I see” do you mean you have any data, or just idle speculation?

        • I know quite a few people and their families who live in Bloomingdale and Truxton that fell on harder times and had to sell. Various reasons, really, from taking out second mortgages and not being able to pay them back to just getting older and not being able to keep up the house. One family lost a ton of retirement $$ and was faced with either selling or sending grandpa back to work. No chart data here, just listening to people in the neighborhood.

    • You forgot to mention that these “destitute” people are being displaced. And those who have “owned for decades decide to sell” because some of them are retired people who are actually being forced out by higher property taxes while living on fixed incomes. Why move into a neighborhood just to wait for the neighbors to move out? How do you NOT see this as a messed up mentality?

  • There is huge income disparity all over the city. As I said, I think the crime is factor of people not being aware that they are in an area where they just cant stand on the corner with their wallet and iPhone out. I can give up that luxury.

    • man, that’s not the kind of place I want to live. I can do that in my neighborhood up until a certain time of night. talk about living in fear.

  • I have lived in LeDroit Park for a year and a half, and my husband and I could not be happier with our decision to buy a house here. I have not noticed any uptick in crime since we moved here from U Street and have never felt unsafe walking the streets here during the day or night. This neighborhood is still in a large urban area, which means that there is crime. In fact, an armed robbery took place on my corner this morning. However, that does not change how much I love this neighborhood. Crime is an unfortunate part of living in a city that is going through significant growing pains.

    One of the things I love about this neighborhood is that it is one of the few places in DC that is still mixed – and I see that as a good thing. If you have a problem living near low-income housing, then LeDroit isn’t the place for you. But if you want to live in a place that is full of history and culture, and populated by friendly neighbors who greet you from their front stoops when you go for an evening stroll, then by all means, please join us. All you have to do is look at real estate prices in this area to know that it isn’t regressing – I’m not sure we could afford our house if we were looking now.

    • would you feel differently if you were the victim of the armed robbery this morning? honestly?

      • Probably but thats not the point. The victims of violent crime in this city are a decimal point fraction of the entire population. Individual feelings arent relevant except to that person, and to them it means everything. Something i think that is lost when these discussions occur.

        • People are not islands. When a person is a victim of crime, that influences their families, neighbors, and friends. An individual act of violence on one person can have a sizable impact on many.

      • Of course I would feel differently, but would I freak out, sell my house, and move to the suburbs? Absolutely not. The fact is that I could be a victim of crime in any part of this city, and LeDroit Park is not significantly more dangerous than anywhere else, based on crime statistics and my own personal experience. It’s this kind of scare-mongering that keeps these amazing historical neighborhoods from reaching their full potential. I love LeDroit Park and its diverse residents are what makes it great.

  • I was so happy to have finally got a house in LeDroit last year after having been out bid two times. All of my architect friends are jealous. Crime is about the same as it was in Columbia Heights from what I can tell. Check out the number of restaurants under construction on U/Florida between 9th and 4th. Two years from now Nellies will be the center of the U street corridor, not the east end of it.

    • “Check out the number of restaurants under construction on U/Florida between 9th and 4th”

      I believe that number is 2 and one of them is Shaw’s Tavern.

      • NW Corner of 9 / U (british pub), btw 8 and 7 northside (the independent, roof deck for 100ppl, app posted), btw 7 and 8 also northside (seating for 399 next to the gold for cash place, app posted), south side btw 7 and 6 (negotiations for the old Reese space), sw corner of 6th (eastern euro gastropub, app posted), se corner of 6th (SHAW’s tavern – closed), Thai place open btw 5 and 4 northside (thai crossing), corner of 4th (old funeral home under contract – this one is my pipe dream, under contract and praying for no condos).
        So that’s seven confirmed and one I’m dreaming about.
        Check your facts.

        • Thai xing has been there for a while… it’s not under construction

        • Hold the phone. something at 9th and U isnt PAST 9th. Doesnt count. I’ll give you the 2 on the 700 block, the one on the 600 block doesnt count because there’s no ink on any paper, and I’ll give you the eastern euro gastropub. Thai Xing doesnt count, you have to be able to seat more than a group of toddlers and be run by someone who has less than 3 personality disorders to count. Shaw’s Tavern doesnt count for obvious reasons. Then there’s the Frazier Funeral home, which is a huge ?. Doubt it will be open and ready for business in 2 years.

          So… I appreciate your enthusiasm, but 2 years is a bit ambitious. Once 7th street improves from the metro north to Howard’s bookstore, that will enable some progression past 6th on Florida. But the big FRINJ intersection is, and will be, a clusterfuck.

          There’s also limited commercial space suitable for bars/restaurants between FRINJ and Shaw’s Tavern – so thats going to put a damper on your projection too.

          • yeah, but what about the old funeral home,- future haunted house western saloon themed mega bar and brothel? that will lift some spirits!

  • “…Nellies will be the center of the U street corridor, not the east end of it.”

    I say give it five years

  • We’ve been in LeDroit for seven years and live right across from the new park. In all that time the worst thing that has happened to us is a bike being taken from our backyard (which was later recovered!). One of our neighbors saved our car from being towed last week which I don’t think would happen most places. The park has become a hang out on some nights but it hasn’t gotten too bad. I think the amount of foot traffic between the Howard campus and the dorms on 3rd Street and the pretty regular patrols of DCPD and the Howard campus police have kept it pretty calm.
    Do you have to pay attention when walking home late at night? Yes, but that goes for anywhere. The one time I got mugged in DC was at 15th and U so you never know. We love LeDroit.

    • “The one time I got mugged in DC..”

      Way to be nonschalant about it. That is terrifying.

      • i once flipped a car and non shrug it off as “the one time i had an accident”. it was bad, i could have died. even now i feel safer walking the streets of dc even in bad neighborhoods than i do while driving. people bring a lot of baggage to the table when they say i like or i don’t like a place.

  • Apologies if this point has been made…I couldn’t get through most of these comments. When I bought my place in Columbia Heights, I did as others recommended and visited the property at various times of day, and on different days of the week. I also took note of the construction and development in the area – what kinds of private homes were being developed? To what quality? What types of bars and restaurants and retail were opening at the time? This data helped me understand that the community I was investing in was, indeed, on the uptick and was not “regressing.”

  • As far as “ingrained” public housing in Ledroit and CoHo, as these neighborhoods gentrify those public housing projects become more desirable for low income famlies and begin to attract a better “low income” element. Those with jobs, families, no crime record. Therefore even though those projects are not going anywhere anytime soon, the standard to be placed in these housings becomes higher. A win-win for everyone.

    • What exactly do you base this on? The government, as I understand it, has an obligation to provide housing services to the poor without discrimination. What public administrator is going to carefully weed through her list of potential applicants based on how desirable they are to the surrounding, gentrifying neighbors? Archaic projects are a continuing problem for many homeowners. Hill East has experienced strong gentrification for at least ten years, and the Potomac Gardens project and its associated crime remains a problem.

    • do you know how tough it is to get a public housing unit, especially given the number of properties currently closed for renovation? there are almost no vacancies and the list takes years–i think they are currently pulling from 2006 applications. you don’t really get to pick, they (DCHA) tell you what you get and maybe if you are lucky you get to choose between two places.

    • This might be true, because individual projects charge a % of the market rate. As the market rate goes up, the bar is raised. but that is assuming that the rate of crime among 10k/yr earners is substantially different than say the crime among 15k/yr earners.

      I dont have enough information to have an opinion.

      • that’s not true in public housing. I don’t know where you got that idea. public housing rents are 30% of a household’s income (with a few different deductions/adjustments).

  • I think the people of LeDroit have a lot of pride in the neighborhood and I often see what I assume are the residence picking up trash, raking, and beautifying the neighborhood. I also enjoy all of the people that sit on milk crates and in their cars in front of Howard Theater; they really provide a sense of community that you don’t get everywhere.

  • Initial poster and all interested in LeDroit Park–Please come spend some time here. The Civic Association is co-sponsoring a family-oriented Oktoberfest this Saturday from 11 am – 5 pm ( and the Common Good City Farm is having its Harvest Festival from 11 am – 2 pm ( at the Park at LeDroit. All are welcome!

  • Living in the city one needs to be street smart. I live in Columbia Heights and there is crime in the city one needs to keep your eyes open. My son used to live in Bloomingdale and you need to be street smart he is. He has now moved to Brooklyn another urban area. I would never like to live in the suburbs the city offers so much more. Don’t be afraid of living in the city.

  • My FiancĂ© and I bought our house here about 2 years ago and we love the neighborhood. The houses are beautiful and the neighborhood has a small town feel in the midst of the city while being close to the night life. The people who live here are generally sweet and happy to have caring and thoughtful neighbors. Every month it seems like a new couple moves in to fix up a dilapidated property. It really is warming to watch and meet the people doing the work.
    As for the comments, there are always 2 or 3 jerks on this board that either need a hug or an ass whipping, I am too busy to follow it constantly and since they never give their name I will never have the pleasure of rendering either to them. Aside from these insufferable D-Bags people here are awesome and the crime rises and falls, with it falling more often than rising.

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