Two Dead/One Critical: Triple Shooting on 1400 Block of Parkwood Place, NW Early Sat. Morning

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“Dear PoP,

I was getting ready to take my dog out this morning when something made me pause. I felt like I was hearing more sirens than normal. So I waited, I don’t why, I never think about things like that. Anyway, when I did go out about 6.45am, I saw several police cars, etc across from Ogden Market (I think it would be Center Street if Center crosses Ogden, never looked). Anyway, police tape is up on the side of the large apartment complex, police, detectives walking around looking at the ground. I assume they are looking for evidence.”

From Council Member Jim Graham Press Release:

“Sadly, I must inform you that, just before 6 AM this morning, three people were shot in the 1400 block of Parkwood Place. Two were shot in the head and are dead. A third victim is in critical condition. The ages and identities of the victims have not been determined, but preliminary reports are that they may have been adults. More will be known soon.

A weapon was recovered from the victim who went to the hospital.

Two Black males were seen running from the area on foot. But no suspects at this time.

Motives unclear, although there is a suggestion that they may have been gambling on the scene.

More information to be provided as it becomes available.

Councilmember Jim Graham”

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  • The most favorite weekend passtime in DC — young black men with guns shooting each other. They say that is just what they do. This City’s tolerance of gangs and gun violence is nauseating.

    • And no comment from Count Chocula (the Mayor). Jesus this worthless asshole has got to go. He is trying to re-bamma the city. I hate Fenty even more for being such a tool and blowing the reelection…

      • You’ve made at least a half dozen comments on this thread blaming Gray and callng him a Bamma, and other urban witticisms…

        But, Gray kept Fenty’s police chief in place! And, violent crime is down overall. And, if you look back a year ago on this date, when your beloved Fenty was in office, Prince of Petworth was reporting a fatal stabbing.

        It’s not like things have gotten worse, though perhaps PoP is posting more crime reports.

        You can rant at Mayor Gray for not holding more press conferences and maybe that’s right, but you frankly sound like a kid who thinks the weatherman controls the weather.

        Politicians should do what they can, but they can only do so much…

        • Both men are at fault for maintaining the status quo, however we can only blame one today, as only one mayor sits in office. Not that I want to defend the prof, but he does badmouth Fenty, and then you use your comment to say that he’s his “beloved Fenty”. It seems that he’s implying a lesser of two evils sentiment. Regardless, my hope is that we get beyond this Gray vs. Fenty thing, and move toward tough on crime vs. soft on crime thing.

          They can only do so much? *No one in the world* is in a better position to promote reasonable changes in the way the criminal justice system functions ’round these parts. Gray can certainly use the bully pulpit they’ve been given to promote change, so that murders don’t tend to get short sentences, for instance. That would deter crime.

          We fairly deride the man in office, when his actions and policies don’t match up with our values. Crime continues to drop in every city in American, due to some shifting variable. What we want for DC is an outsize drop in crime, which would be evidence of effective policies, rather than a simple change in the weather, so to speak.

        • Public safety vis a vis violent crime is at all times one of the top two priorities for this city’s government. At a bare minimum, the mayor should show that he’s aware, concerned, committed to addressing it, and able to point to action steps.

          I cannot recall Gray doing anything of the sort, and get the sense that these incidents are starting to be accepted as status quo. No matter what he can or cannot do, communicating his position is key.

          I’m pretty passionate about statehood but, like many businesses and other families, it’s not going to be the basis of my decision to stay in DC or leave.

          • +1000 on that comment Michelle. I understand where ProfChris is going with his comment. Agreed 100% on Fenty. But at least we saw Fenty speak on crime and criminal activity especially right after particularly heinous incidents have occured. I was upset and dismayed that our current mayor said nothing, NOTHING after the Carribean carnival shooting. And he was there earlier in the day. Very sad, indeed and not reassuring at all.

  • This happened right in front of my house. Shots woke me up, conservatively 15 or so rounds. CSI has been on the scene since 6 am. Cathy Lanier was here. The regular dice game got a little too heated apparently.

    • Wait, was it Catherine CSI or Jo CSI-NY? Mmmmmmm. If it was anyone else…. pffft. Cath Lanier…. acck, my eyes!

      Capthca: mlb0 Sums it up nicely.

  • Historical Warren G – Regulate reenactment.

  • So earlier this week we have yet another child gunned down over in SE, friends report it’s just another day of DC child murders. And then real tolerance, a guy with the nickname 9-Milli pleads guilt for his lame homicide (and earlier in the evening was just shooting into the air) and gets a measly 10 years. He’ll be back out when he is 33. How is that right? City Council needs to toughen up our laws, big time.

    • They won’t. They have their own asses to cover, plus the people that elected them have made it perfectly clear that this is the way it should be.

      One City!

      • Yes. People who elected Gray want children shot on corners.

        Good grief you are pathetic.

        • How can you say that they don’t? When was crime ever brought up on the campaign trail? Murders were down under Fenty, yet he was booted. Maybe they don’t ‘want’ people shot, but they clearly do not care if it happens.

          • You seriously believe that people want their children shot?

            You seriously believe that people do not care when people they love are shot?

          • Of course Gray’s supporters care about people getting shot. Of course they would like the shootings to stop.

            The problem is that they also don’t like the idea of tougher law enforcement. It’s their young relatives who are getting shot. But it’s also their young relatives who would spend a lot more time in jail if the city really gets tough on crime. And given that choice, they support going easy on criminals.

          • >> “You seriously believe that people want their children shot?”

            No, I don’t believe they want their children shot. But they also don’t want their kids jailed for the myriad of the less severe crimes they commit before they escalate to murder. They’ll blame the guy walking with the ipod more than the kid from the community who mugged him for it.

            They don’t understand you can’t have it both ways. If you want to prevent escalation to murder you can’t let these kids get away with all the theft, muggings, drugs, etc..

          • “My own view is that it is very unfortunate, but people steal.”
            — D.C. Council member Phil Mendelson (D-At Large), Nov. 9

            Colbert King is not Courtland Milloy, but I guess you think Phil Mendelsen is one of “those people” who voted for Gray.

            Or get this:
            “There’s soft on crime, there’s softer on crime, then there’s Phil Mendelson,” says police-union head Kris Baumann.

            When I asked Mendelson why gun violence was so prevalent in DC as opposed to the suburbs, he said: “It’s not the District’s fault. . . . We have too many guns coming in from shops in Maryland and Virginia.”
            It’s nto the districts fault – it’s OTHER STATES. Sound familiar? Old bendy Mendy can’t stand up and say this is our issue to fix, he’s gotta blame others. These people can’t even take responsibility – these people have to push it off onto others.

            But you know who is in favor of decreasing gun violence, my gosh – it’s one of those people!:
            One DC councilmember in favor of tougher penalties, including mandatory-minimum sentences for gun crime, is former mayor Marion Barry. In 2005 the Ward 8 councilmember introduced legislation to make the penalty for possession of an illegal gun a mandatory minimum of ten years in jail.

            He told reporters at the time: “I don’t think it is harsh enough, because murder and violence need to stop in this town. I am usually not for mandatory minimums. But in this case, I think we need to do that.” (same article)

          • No question, Mendelson is really soft on crime. He’s a big part of the problem. But what’s your point there? He did endorse Gray, and he and Gray are clearly on the same side of this issue.

            Barry may be in favor of tougher sentencing for gun crime. But he’s also pushing for going soft on lesser crimes. As Jason pointed out earlier, getting tough on all crime would do a lot to prevent gun crime. Being soft on lesser crimes and tough on gun crime is sending a mixed message at best.

          • My point Anonymous 09 July 2011 2:40 PM is that it is not just “those people” that are soft on crime.

        • Pathetic is ignoring the 800 lb gorilla that is crime and corruption, then to continue to elect those that are corrupt.
          My job is to make sure my family is safe and my children are productive members of society. It is not to spend what few rescourses I have left to raise the children of a community that does not care for itself.

          • I think his point is that turning a blind eye to crime is itself an act which perpetuates crime. Whether or not the intent is to encourage shootings, shootings are the only possible result of the soft-on-crime stance our leaders have taken. This, as s/he puts it, is pathetic.

          • Vince Gray is granpa, pandering to a constituency that wants to re-bammify the city…he dodders whilst the lunatics run the asylum.

          • Sorry Tres, I do not think that was his/her point.

  • The city needs to infiltrate and take down this plague on our city.

  • Whenever I come to PoP on Saturdays and Sundays, as the page is loaded, I always hope I don’t see a map–and when I do, I know what’s happened.

    Way too much violence here.

    • btw, check out MPDC site on the homicide count since last year. DC homicides have actually fallen 6.5% since this day last year, so something good must be going on…,a,1239,q,561242,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,%7C.asp

      • Please keep your facts away from other people’s diatribes.

        • i bet the 6.5% decline is due mostly to the thugs moving out of the city due to gentrification

          • It is also down nationwide as well as all over the area. So try again.

          • Gentrification of urban cores is a nationwide trend. The most likely scenario for such a large decline is not that every police chief in every major city in America suddenly developed drastically more effective policing strategies. That’s naive.

            It’s either gentrification or some other unknown factor.

          • Grandma moves or dies, she makes Junior and Cool Breeze homeless. Crime goes down. But grandma is in Vince Gray’s demo. That’s why he tolerates this.

          • To Tres, if iit is simply the thugs moving out, then where is all the crime going. Then surely that area affected will have a surge in violence. Can you please provide such area? “Thugs” in DC are pushed out to let’s say Pg or MoCo, but I am willing to bet there is also a decline there as well.

  • i checked parkwood place on google street view. google street has a picture of 2 cops trying hop over a fence.

  • What is the recall Gray website??

    • Right, both Gray and Brown are corrupt, each are being indicted, hopefully, and then, Mr. Mendelson will become Mayor by default. Not sure if this would be good or bad for the city.

      • Bad for so many reasons…soft on crime and he never saw a middle-class tax cut he could support in this city.

  • maybe we can get the us military to invade, much us safer, and bring us democracy.

  • As long as Congress controls our city and makes us allow guns and controls our funding and takes our taxes and we are beholden to the antiquated constitutional notion that everyone should be allowed to “bear arms” and states and cities continue to have less and less power to determine what is best for their own citizens because of the holy and sacred scripture written by our forefathers 235 years ago and the disparity between rich and poor widens as the number of have-nots grows and what they have dwindles to the bare necessities for survival and often less than that because profit is king and the small guy can fry…

    Then tough luck, people. Unless you want a police state. And frankly, that’s probably not that far off anyway.

    • Give me a break. If there was even one shooting involving a legally owned/registered gun here the media would make a huge freaking deal about it. Allowing legal firearms in DC, in reality, doesn’t change a damn thing. You’re right about the wealth disparity issue, but the gun issue, not so much.

      • Yes, let’s make all these guns legal, and that way we can reduce the number of charges against the offenders by 1.

        • Or we can have real sentencing laws, so that when someone decides to hurt another person, they actually go away for a long period of time. Who cares about the number of charges.

          But I can see where you’re coming from with wanting to get rid of guns. I mean, we banned drugs, and now no one, anywhere has drugs. We spend $40 billion and have multiple federal, state, and local agencies fighting drugs. And as a result, not one single drug is available in these United States. So the exact same logic should apply to guns. Let’s just ban them, put words on paper, and they will miraculously disappear.

          • The thing is, other countries ban guns and actually are successful in keeping them out of peoples’ hands. There is almost no gun violence in many other countries, while there is substantial drug use in every country.

            Drugs are different in that the drive to alter consciousness is a very universally felt thing. You could argue that the desire to get in fights and hurt people is universal as well, but there are many ways to satisfy this desire that don’t involve firearms.

          • If the whole US had tight gun laws, then gun violence would go down a lot. It would be much tougher for the criminals to get guns.

            If DC has tough gun laws and Virginia has loose gun laws, then gun violence doesn’t go down at all. DC’s laws make it tough for law-abiding people to own guns, but the criminals just buy guns in Virginia.

            And unfortunately, there’s nothing DC can do about gun laws in the rest of the country.

          • Then why does DC have more gun violence than VA?

            Perhaps because their laws on use of guns in crime are sticter.
            Perhaps because their laws on adolescents and crime are stricter?

            I abhor DC’s restrictive gun laws. And I abhor the leniency of VA’s gun laws.

          • Greent: VA actually has pretty tough gun laws. Project Exile has done a good job locking up repeat offenders through strict mandatory minimums. I’d kill (no pun intended) for a similar program in DC.


          • Exiled: Yeppers, i walways wondered why DC, under teh control of congress, was not apilot for that program. But I was referrign to all gun laws not just the illegal use/control/ownership gun laws.

      • That’s what I wonder. Why do we never hear about the authorities chasing after and bringing down the system that supplies all these guns to the thugs? Or at least reporting to us where they believe the guns and bullets were obtained. Time for the weekly FOIA request — how many violent DYRS wards are on the loose/released, how many guns retrieved, and origin of each gun.

        • I think NYC mayor Bloomberg tried to do this. Sued VA gun shops for supplying murder weapons to NY thugs. Not sure whatever came of it, however.

          But, I’d sure love a Mayor Bloomberg in this town.

  • I avoid that whole neighborhood from Oak and Spring, between 14th & 16th. I got shot at there around ’98 for no reason by some crackhead who thankfully couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with his little semiauto. Nice to hear that 13 years later not much has changed. MPD used to have a nickname for those few blocks, forget what it was.

    • Oh come on! You can’t set it up like that and then not give a nickname. shooter alley? crackrockpark? o-a-k-corral?

      • Sorry – the MPD one was actually pretty clever, I’ll try to remember it 🙂 Maybe I can check with some old timers. The area used to be the bottom end of the 4th District, and had very low police presence since it was so far from the rest of the district.

      • Crack Attack Family Fun and Gun Park?

    • You got shot at somewhere 13 years ago and now this, admittedly horrible, but isolated incident proves that nothing has changed?
      Yeah, clearly you haven’t been there in 13 years if you think nothing has changed.

    • I agree. I live on Spring and avoid the Parkwood/Ogden area despite the fact that it would make my walk home shorter.

  • This has less to do with politics and gun laws and more to do with perpetuation of violence in black society. Glorifying guns in an urban environment doesn’t help when these kids are also being raised by parents who weren’t raised properly themselves. What the hell am I supposed to do to help make this better?

    • Want a serious answer?

      1. Pay taxes
      2. Report crime that you see
      3. Write your council member and CM Mendelsohn to show that this issue is really important to you.
      4. Volunteer as a youth guide – at a Community Center, as Big Brother, as a coach for extracurricular activity, as a camp counselor.
      5. Donate $$ to organizations that help youths to turn away from gangs.
      6. Get involved in your neighborhood – meet your neighbors, visit the schools in your area, help keep your block clean, help a disabled/older/needier neighbor with something
      7. Don’t let your anger & exasperation close your thoughts and emotions to the people that live here – do not buy into the notion that “these people” are anything but people just like you. We’re different, but the majority of us are law-abiding people who want safety in our neighborhoods.

      • Whatever. “these people” are not people like us. I work 50 hours a week, pay my taxes, and make good decisions because I know that bad implusive decisions have serious consequences.

        “These people” are lazy ignorant sloth with no morals or accountability. They don’t deserve our help.

        • Where did you move here from? Seriously asking. To show I am serious: I moved from the midwest after a brief stopover in the northeast.

        • Jason – As long as people who have jobs, pay taxes, and make [what at least superficially appear to be] good decisions, and refuse to stoop to the depths of “these people” because “they” are unworthy of your attention or assistance, we are doing nothing to change the environment that perpetuates this sort of hell.

          I don’t know about your history or how you were raised that may or may have not led to your being such an upstanding citizen, so I’ll just speak for myself. My grandfather taught me to respect the law and to value work. If he didn’t, that wouldn’t have been my fault, yet I probably wouldn’t have picked it up anywhere else, and I would probably be a very different person than I am today, in a way that most would consider to be a negative way.

          What I am saying is: the mechanism through which I acquired my values does not exist in the lives of many of the kids who grow up around here. greent seems to get that and is proposing a few sound ways to create such a mechanism. Forgive me, but I’m just a little bit too dumb to figure out what that has to do with anybody deserving anything.

          • I grew up with an alcoholic blue collar father and a bi-polar mother who has only held a job 4 years of her life. My mothers side of the family included a bunch of aunts who had children out of wedlock, went on and off welfare, used drugs, and lived with my grandparents into their early 30’s. And in their 40s they were still hitting up my grandparents to make the occassional mortgage payment for them. Their daughters had teenage pregnancies (and abortions) and also ended up mooching off my grandparents. Out of all the children and grandchildren my grandparents had my sister and I were the only ones who have not turned out not to be losers. Why? Not because we were nutured. It’s because we were embarrassed by our family and didn’t want to turn out like them. That was our motivation.

            But every blog commenter assumes that if you think poor people mostly have themselves to blame that you must have had an easy silver spoon upbringing. BS.

        • Cool story, bro.

          • The fact that you were embarrassed by them suggests that you were exposed to another way of life at least somewhere. Did all of your friends and classmates have alcoholic parents without jobs as well, or did you know at least know a few people who had parents who earned money via legitimate means and did not abuse alcohol?

            I never assumed that you had any sort of idyllic home life growing up. However, I am assuming, at risk of being completely wrong, that you at least had a few friends (or classmates, they don’t have to be friends) who went home after school to a house owned or rented by a responsible adult with a job.

            The thing is, here, if you’re a kid from a low-income family in DC, there’s a halfway decent chance that you might have not even one friend, or classmate, who has a dad with a job who is married to your mom and lives at home with you. (For whatever it’s worth, I was raised by a single mom and grew up in low income housing, but in an another part of the country where we didn’t have the kind of economic segregation that we have here. A couple of my friends lived in trailer parks, and a couple of my friends lived in nice houses. That’s not the point though. The point is: Most of my friends and classmates went home to households with two parents where at least one of them had a job. Not that any individual one of us necessarily had or didn’t have the ideal family situation, but in my peer group, it was generally viewed as normative for a family to include an adult male who was either gainfully employed or searching really really hard to get himself a job.

            Believe it or not, for some kids here, that would be virtually unheard of. Not only would they not have that at home, but *might not even know anybody who does.* That is my fundamental point. Back to greent’s suggestion – at it’s core this isn’t about helping somebody because they deserve help, it’s about showing somebody that another way exists, who might not otherwise ever even become aware of that.

  • “2 black males running from crime scene” – big surprise

  • I am saddened by the loss of yet two more people on our streets in this city. Senseless acts of violence and legislation that is weakened by a court system that hands down too many light sentences. Leadership is paramount at this time and stiffer laws to help protect innocent people is mandatory.
    My prayers go out to the families of the deceased.

    • The saddest part is that there are now seven children [more] without fathers. I was acquainted with the deceased and the wounded. Of the group they ran with, I had thought that these three would be the least likely to be caught up in such mischief. Sadly, I was wrong.

  • After the last gang shooting our police chief said that “this is why we come down so hard on gangs” – really?!? There has been a lot of shooting recently in Columbia Heights and I have never noticed any increase of police patrols. I’d really like to see the police be more confrontational to people or groups that appear to be thugs or gangs. I am no fan of NYC’s Giuliani – I don’t like him at all – but he did clean up the streets from guns and gangs by confronting them. Sometimes it should be tolerated for the police to take extreme measures such as random stops and searches. That is how NY got their streets back and they remain that way long after Giuliani. Most of the people out on the streets in Columbia Heights after 1am – or 4am on weekends – are up to no good and the police should be checking them out. That is our tax $ working for us.

    • As mentioned before, Guiliani really didn’t “clean up” NYC. There were huge decreases in crime/murder across the country, not just in NYC. If Guiliani had done nothing, similar results would have occurred.
      I’ve actually seen a noticeable increase in police presence in CH. It’s still not enough to drive away the thugs/drug dealers, but it has been noticeable.

  • yeh i’m no longer willing to condemn the hood. i choose to condemn those responsible for creating and sustaining the hood.

  • It’s funny how perceptions differ from reality. Any murder is tragic, but the argument that things are appreciably worse in DC now is flat wrong. Homicides are actually down from last year. The overall violent crime rate nationwide is down.
    I did not vote for Vincent Gray, but I don’t blame him for these incidents. And I don’t blame his supporters. As I recall, the last election had nothing to do with crime; it was much more about gentrification and who was and was not benefitting from the economic growth experienced in the DC area. Vincent Gray didn’t run against Fenty’s policies, he ran against Fenty’s personality.

  • Parkwood on the gas station side of 14th is a mess.

    The Exxon gas station and the Panam grocery store aren’t helping things improve. That gas station has no less than 25 cars parked there at any time; the operator charges parking by the month to the grocery store employees. Exxon corporate needs to make sure he is in compliance with this franchise agreement. Wouldn’t hurt if he picked up the trash once a week either. You also can’t allow 10 people to loiter on your property 24 hours a day and not expect bad things to happen.

    At least the El Salvadoreno disco with the basement filled with teen prostitutes closed.

    Two years ago I attended a Northern Columbia Heights Community Association meeting and discussed the Parkwood/Exxon issue with police and staff from Jim Grahams office. Of course nothing was resolved. The problem has only gotten worse. Panam and the Exxon franchise owner need to do a lot more to contribute to the community. Of course they drive home at night to their comfortable homes in Virginia or Maryland, and Jim Graham can return to his fancy condo.

  • It would be so nice to see every single DC government official out of office. While on their way out the can take 75% oft the heads of DC government offices and most of the staff with them. How about a zero tolerance policy for gun charges, auto theft, possession over a certain amount just for starters. Then once this is done, clean house on those receiving disability and other government assistance. There are at least 4 families on my block within which not a single member works and they have nicer cars then I do and live on the same block as me despite the fact that I work over 40 hours a week. Not that I want to start a debate about welfare and disability, etc. But it’s difficult to even suggest that there isnt rampant abuse of the system.

    Then, start with strict code enforcement. Shut down the unlicensed businesses, those that are not what they pretend to be, group and other illegal housing, garbage the list just goes on and on. There are so many things this city could do but chooses not to.

    • I am baffled by the number of mercedes i see in my neighborhood, and i live in parkview.

      • I thought that one over (I live nearby), and this is what I came up with.

        Most of those Mercedes’ seem to be owned by old people, who have long since paid off their homes. Additionally, what little property taxes long time homeowners in the district actually have to pay are cut in half if they are retired. A decent Benz can probably be had for $500 a month, and if you only pay $100 a month for property taxes and receive about $2,000 a month in social security you could probably swing a nice car.

        Also you could get a home equity loan, because they all have at least $300K in equity.

        That’s how I think they get the cars. I don’t think they are always the smartest financial decisions, but I don’t think they flat out wrong or immoral.

    • I vote for you for Council!

  • 14th and Parkwood has been home to the gangsta go-go scene for decades. Certainly the cops know all about it, and I’d bet the thugs in power got dirty cops on the inside. Just ask Mr. Uptown or King Ducci what they know. As I recall, that area is known for HQW sales. Wish I had a drug sniffing dog, I’d go for their stash.

  • Hi. I live near here, and I’m surprised by some o the comments about Parkwood and that gas station. We have lived on the street for 2 years and never had a problem. People have been playing dice for ages, but never gave us a hard time. Figured it was fairly innocent.

    This is really hard for our neighborhood to digest, so maybe we should all keep the hating on the street to a minimum. Yes, it can sketchy, but again—none of us have had a problem.

    For people who have had shootings on their street before, what advice can you recommend for people still living there? Should we be more vigilant about calling cops? Start a neighborhood watch? Any advice would be appreciated.

    • Just ask Mr. Uptown about it, he’ll ease yourpain with 20 Jayz…

      “BAMBUBOYZ Mr. Uptown
      2Day Was Not A Good Day…320 Lost Sum Good Men RIP My Niggaz!!!”

      What crew is 320?

    • And here’s the problem,

      “People have been playing dice for ages, but never gave us a hard time. Figured it was fairly innocent.”

      News flash to transplants, every single person involved in dice games is also involved in drug and/or gun crimes. Welcome to the big city. Sorry, I grew up here, that’s just how it works.

      • Exactly. And someone got killed at the Exxon station not too long ago – one or two years, maybe. A stabbing. So yeah… it’s a totally sketchy place.

      • Thanks for the helpful suggestion. Clearly the way to handle the situation is to make people who are mildly afraid of their own neighborhood feel bad about themselves.


        • If you want to improve or change your neighborhood you have to face the reality of it. It doesn’t do any good to bury your head in the sand and pretend that things are fine when they aren’t. Being unnecessarily afraid isn’t good but neither is ignoring real problems.

          • I just don’t think there’s any need to be rude to someone who is just asking for advice from a community of readers. I might be naive, but you can bet that I wouldn’t be so condescending and cold to someone who is asking a sincere question.

    • As it turns out, the shooting might have been related to an argument over dice.

  • Why is the USA the only First-World country that has Third-World levels of gun violence in its capital city?

    Really, WTF America? Wake up and look at solutions that actually WORK. And here’s a hint: your experiment with hyperincarceration is an abject failure; you’ve increased your prison population by 500% since 1970, and your cities are still more violent than those of Western Europe (where the incarceration rate is not half, not a third, but one seventh of America’s rate). Sane gun laws and humane social policies would be a good start. Look around: the rest of the rich countries are kicking your ass when it comes to creating decent, safe societies.

    • Every time I go to Amsterdam, all the Euro folks are gettin’ down to our American gangster rap. It took a generation of jail time to create that worldwide violent music cred. Don’t knock our success.

      It’s an industry mate, both sides of the coin profit.

      (except of course for RIP Jimmy who left behind 2 daughters and one on the way. What we he doing out there at 5am? Payback perhaps for Lil Jeff from Upper Marlboro gunned down this week at of all things a dice game?).

      • What exactly is a bamma from PG? Perhaps the DC crews are right to want to protect themselves from such evil?

    • serious question: are we the only first-world country that allows almost all citizens access to almost all kinds of guns? seems to me most countries without our type of gun violence have laws against private citizens owning firearms.

  • Jim Graham = talk, talk, talk, blah, blah, blah

  • There was a shooting at the Inner Harbor in Baltimore on the 4t of July. Baltimore’s mayor and police commissioner held a press conference to address this senseless violence. Where is Mayor Gray on all the violence taking place in our city? He’s been very invisible. DC Councilmember Mendelson chair the Judiciary Committee and too never respond on MPD listservs to the violence taking place in our city.

  • Was on of the victims, perchance, named “Snotboogie?”

    “You gots to man, this is America”

  • I can’t believe some of you are giving Gray a pass for the crime in the city, saying, “it’s gone down; it wasn’t a campaign issue; people are causing the hood society to thrive, not Gray.” That is the attitude that is exactly the problem with DC. Leadership NEVER has to be responsible.

    So just because Gray didn’t discuss crime, he should be proactive in stopping crime? squashing these disgusting gangs?

  • I sure wish I had the Shinigami eyes to go along with my notebook.

  • I would think the biggest deterrent against becoming a victim of violent DC street crime would be not ending up the butt of thinly veiled racist jokes by faceless cowards on this site.

  • christanel


    I moved to Columbia Heights in August 2010. I don’t like the loiterers on the street especially at 14th and Newton/Oak. But that being said I’ve never felt concerned for my safety or seen drug activity. What I have seen is a lot of downtrodden people who try to fill this neighborhood with a sense of community, so stop with the gangster rap references.

    • hm, one of us must be wearing goggles because what I see is a bunch of adult men hanging out on the street doing nothing. that’s not a judgment on whether or not they’re able to do something, but all I see is them doing absolutely nothing all day long.

  • Well here, check out this map. You can zoom into Columbia Heights if you want. You might not want to, though.

  • May sound strange, might sound foolish
    But things ain’t getting better
    Everyday another fall victim to the baretta
    Why is there so much violence
    Killing we one another
    Let us learn to live and let that light shine brighter
    Bad influence through influence the youth dem get slaughter
    As bad as badman use to be
    Dem respect di father
    is like no eyes no realize seh
    Times get harder
    Mi talk all night with all mi might
    But still is laughter

  • I tell you what – let us become a culture of marksmen and allow law abiding citizens to uphold their constitutional right to bear arms. Easy to take candy from a baby when a parent isn’t around. Good ol’ equalizer may make them think twice about being so brazen.

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