Dear PoP – Incident at 14th and W St, NW Late Fri. Night/Sat. Morning

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“Dear PoP,

I was just saying good night to a friend outside the gas station at 14th and W NW an hour ago [around 2:30am] and asked if it was safe to walk home to my place in Mt. Pleasant around 3 a.m. He said it was probably safe, and just as we parted, a car came screaming down W St. going at least 60 mph just as a cop car pulled up and stopped at 14th and W. The car on W kept flying past the gas station and immediately collided with a cab on 14th St. at the intersection. It was a large car, maybe a decked out Chrysler, and almost bounced off the cab and kept flying down W St. as the cop car immediately took off and went after it down W until they were out of sight.

Everyone around was in shock and was wondering what the hell had happened. People rushed to the cab, and wonderfully, it looked like everyone was well.

However, as I hailed a cab toward Mt. Pleasant up 16th and U, I noticed a huge police presence with ambulances and fire trucks around 16th and W. I’m hoping this isn’t a shooting or something other related to the accident.

Wondering if anyone else has any information or an update?”

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  • I can’t get past your willingness to walk home from 14th & W to Mount Pleasant. Straight up 14th St past Girard, Fairmont, and Columbia Rds? At 2:30am? By yourself?

    Yikes x100000.

    • If you take 16th it’s fine.

      • that is true. I’ve done it and, while it’s always risky walking anywhere alone that late at night, it’s not worse than anywhere else.

      • Wouldn’t that take you right up along the park? That is not fine. It’s not extremely well lit along the perimiter at nights.

        The only way I’d walk home is to actually go up 18th street – you’d hit the Adams Morgan crowd. Then your fear would be “how do I avoid obnoxious drunks?” But obviously, this would take the OP well of the way.

        Cabbing was the smart thing to do.

        • I walk up 16th from U st to Mt. Pleasant pretty often late at night on weekends. It’s fairly well lit if you walk up the west side across from the park, and there’s a decent amount of foot traffic plus car/bus traffic too. I’d say it’s actually quite safe. Definitely no worse than walking down U to 18th and then up 18th and then up Columbia to Mt. P.

          Still, neither option is as safe as cabbing. (Personally, I like walking and dislike cabs.)

        • I’ve walked up 15th st. along the park many a late night, never any problems. While the park isn’t well-lit, 15th has plenty of light and on fridays and saturdays there is a fair amount of traffic. I also agree with GD about 16th, definitely a safe route to take.

      • If the OP had taken 16th maybe he/she would have ended up as part of the police situation…

        Cabbing was smart.

    • Is OP a female? If so, your friend is not much of a friend giving you that advice. Why would you risk being robbed or worse, just to save $5?

      • +10000000000

        Especially considering that block of W has always been notoriously bad for some reason…wonder why

  • The closest I’ve come to death was when some idiot DC criminal was fleeing a crime in a car without any regard for anyone, sideswiped 2 cars as he blasted by behind me, one step slower and I would have been french toast. Didn’t see or hear it coming, just heard the loud sideswipe crash a step directly behind me as I was crossing the street. Hope no one got hurt. Hope they caught the perp.

    DC pedestrian roulette at that time of night in those locations, yikes. Wish DC police could organize some sort of “safe passage home” services so walking residents could feel safe in their city.

  • The police at 16th & U were out earlier in the night, I saw them around 11pm, but not sure what was going on.

  • Friends don’t let friends walk home alone at 3:00 am. “Probably safe”? No, not safe.

  • I just feel like if it’s 2:30am and you *aren’t sure* if it’s safe, err on the side of caution and take a cab.

  • if you have to ask…

  • it’s all about how you carry yourself.

  • wow, the writer was just asking for info on the accident — he/she was not asking for commentary on the decision to walk home.

    • Maybe so, except that the writer framed their question about the accident in the context of whether or not it was safe to walk home. Intentionally or not, the writer connected one to the other; if you only want to know about the accident, why mention what you were just talking about moments earlier?

      • So who was safer? The pedestrian, or the occupants of the cab?

        • Well played. I find it strange how people feel they are indestructable in a vehicle and completely vulnerable on foot, when all the evidence shows that driving is far more dangerous than walking.

          • I’ll think about that when I am walking to NYC.

          • Take the train – it’s statistically the safest form of travel. And, it’s kind of absurd to compare a long-distance trip to a conversation about mobility around a dense, urban area. Nice try, though.

  • This is what happens when you force change on a neighborhood. Gentrification = Genocide.

    • HAHA -1000000. I seriously can’t believe you are equating a change in local neighborhood to the murder of 1000’s. You sir, are a fool.

    • I agree, gentrification is at fault. There is a direct correlation between the number of Starbucks in a neighborhood to the number of whinny white people complaining about crimes. So to represent this as an equation, Starbucks = more white people = increase in reporting of crimes = genocide (or gentrificide). The reverse is true also. Higher number of Yums Carryout + African Braiding Salons + liquor stores = fewer people who give a shit about the crime around them. So, in order to maintain the chemical balance of the neighberhood, both sides of the equation must equal. When all similar terms are cancelled out and the all fractionals are brought to the lowest common denominator, the resulting balanced equation is …. Dunkin’ Donuts = Eternal Peace in the hood.

    • eh… white people were called evil for leaving cities and taking all the jobs and tax base away in the 60s-90s. Now they’re called evil for moving back into cities and bringing all the tax base and jobs back. They really can’t win. I feel for them.
      I wish someone would update this story.

      • it’s cute when people get defensive.

        • Economic inequality is the problem. Gentrification is an symptom of that problem. You can’t “solve” gentrification. Over time you can decrease inequality.

          It’s like a dying tree that doesn’t get enough water. You can’t address the tree’s health by tending to the leaves that are becoming brittle and breaking (symptom). You have to water the tree to mend it (solution).

          The anti-gentrification crowd doesn’t seem to understand this.

          • “Over time you can decrease inequality”

            yet for the past 30 years, inequality has only gotten worse.

        • Defensive? I don’t understand your attack against me. I was simply pointing out a fact and expressing empathy for the victims.

  • Starbucks Kills.

    Are you suggesting that black folk don’t care about crime? If so, you sir REALLY ARE a fool.

  • Cliff, i am saying that black people care more about the ‘negative’ impact of their white, frappucino drinking new neighbors than they care about crime. The current leaders of DC seem to show more disdain and spew more accusatory rhetoric about the gentrifiers and their dog parks and bike lanes than they ever seem to care about the crime and repeat youth offenders killing each other in town.

    • Negative impact? What negative impact?

      That’s just like saying when Black people move in the property values go down!

      White people are not destroying anything in DC that Black people have not already destroyed. Whites aren’t taking these homes, Blacks are SELLING them at a discount. That ain’t whitey’s fault…it’s ours.

      Investors are fixing these homes up and selling them again to Whites and Blacks with MORE MONEY. Everybody WINS! DC gets more tax revenue. A little crime (potentially) goes away from the neighborhood. Property values go up.

      I fail to see where white folks moving into the neighborhood is such a bad thing…unless you are an official in the DC government and you are afraid that Whites aren’t going to vote for you. What, who was complaining again?

      • you ask a question, then post something longer than the post you were questioning? are you more interested in listening or telling?

      • Cliff – what negative impacts of gentrifiers?!?! Here are just a few: 1. They pay taxes 2. They want less crime and more safety 3. They want good schools for their children 4. They hold their elected leadership accountable for their actions 5. They fix up old decrepit houses and make them nice 6. Some are gay. 7. Gentrifiers caffeine/Starbucks coffee filled urine trickles into the watershed via the sewer system of DC and causes fish in the delicate Chesapeake ecosystem to die of hyper active heart attacks. Need I say more? Obviously the gentrifier scourge and their fabulous renovations of historic DC row homes (which has nearly eliminated all of my options to do crack in a burned out hulk of a house) should be erased from our fair city. I for one am ready to fuel the mass hysteria of long time DC residents (including Mayor Gray and Kwame Brown) and ensure the nice white young couple with a young daughter and their small, long haired dapple colored miniature dachshund named Ernie know they are not welcome here. Who’s with me! Gentrificide!

        • I agree with you 100% It’s the pols that are more worried about DC gentrification, since the new folks are less likely to vote for the old folks.

          We are looking at it from different points of view, and coming to the same conclusion.

          • I think starbucks was using sarcasm and cliff caught it late in the game… you guys were arguing for the same side the whole time.

  • Funny that, just logged into my facebook account and first thing I see is that one of my (white)(almost-gentry) friends just hit “like” Starbucks. There’s some real time validation of the commenter’s wisdom.

  • So I guess there’s no additional info about the chase?

  • Saturday night nice and easy turndown service by Cuba’s greatest contribution to classical piano, Ernesto Lecuona with Rapsodia Cubana:

    and Andalucia from the 1930’s:

    The George Gershwin of Cuba, Ernesto Lecuona’s (1895 -1963) more familiar tunes are Siboney, Malagueña and Always in My Heart.

  • Kids joy riding. That’s what I was told

  • i guess no one actually has the info the OP asked for? I’m curious.

  • “Cabbing was the smart thing to do.”

    Is this a joke? In our story, the cab got smashed by a drunk in a Chrysler.

    • “Cabbing was the smart thing to do” relates to what was being discussed in the comments – how safe is it to walk home by yourself at 2:30 in the morning.

  • I’m going to go with stolen car and joyriding for $1000, Alex.

    And Dunkin Donuts is the best, fyi

  • I kind of get what the OP was after, but I’m not sure why anyone would know anything about a single car speeding down a city street in the middle of the night. Yeah, the crash makes it a little more of an incident, but “Does anyone know why a car was speeding?” isn’t the kind of question that’s going to get a lot of replies, I don’t think. Maybe the 3D listserve would be a better choice.

    • Considering there was a large police presence and ambulances just two blocks away at the same time, plus a speeding car heading in the opposite direction, which didn’t stop after the accident, I think this is more than warranted.

      I’m curious as to what was happening, too. I don’t live far from there at all.

  • …are navel-gazing fools.

    There are over fifty responses to a simple question, and not a single answer.

    Gentrification. White. Black. Starbucks. Dunkin. Crime.

    I too am curious about the huge police presence with ambulances and fire trucks around 16th and W. But I’m not going to ask about it, because I want you folks to go outside and get some air.

    Thank me later.

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