The Votes are In, Congrats to Primary Winners

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Mayor – Vince Gray
Council Chairman – Kwame R. Brown
Council at Large – Phil Mendelson
Ward 1 – Jim Graham
Ward 5 – Harry Tommy Thomas Jr.
Ward 6 – Tommy Wells
House of Representatives – Eleanor Holmes Norton

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  • Did we just really vote out the best mayor we have had in decades? Yet keep Jim Graham? Sigh. It was a good four years while it lasted and there sure is a lot to show for it. Just don’t expect so much to get done under Gray…

    • To paraphrase Bill Clinton, that depends on what your definition of “we” is.

    • Not Fenty. Williams was the best Mayor the city has had. To Fenty’s credit, he did not let the ball drop on Williams initiatives.

      • see, the thing is, half the city felt like Williams was not a good mayor and left them behind.

        sure everywhere west of 14th street did pretty great under williams ( and fenty) but thats not the whole city.

        • I live on Sherman Ave (east of 14th), and I believe that the city was in very good hands. If anything, there was TOO much emphasis on issues like affordable housing and city services.

          • I live east of Georgia and life sure has been looking good here in DC… after 35 years, this is the brightest it has ever been.

            Now if Mr. Grey can keep up the momentum he may do well. Anything less than what is good now is unfortunate.

            No back peddling.

  • That idiot Graham about slammed into me last night wheeling around in his car on Georgia Avenue. No wonder he usually has someone else do his driving for him.

  • Welcome to the 90s!! I bet Marion Barry is happy this morning.

  • I’m pretty disappointed about the Fenty loss (but thanks for using my photo, Dan!)

    • I sent a pic to PoP just like this from AM Day. If you look closely, the guy holding the Gray sign is wearing a Cowboys hat! At least he felt the sting of loss on Sunday before his big win last night.

  • It’s clear that a vast majority of DC’s Black population doesn’t give a damn about reform, good governance, proper schooling, economic development, etc…

    What are they most interested in??? Where’s my loot?

    They don’t want a way out of poverty, they want hand outs.

    Living in the city is slowly turning me into a Republican.

    • Sad but true. Such is the plight of America.

    • Really show us how racist you are…

      • Racist? In what way? Sometimes the truth is not pretty. I have no hatred of any ethnic group. I’m a Latino. All people are born equal in my eyes. Your are a Pendejo.

        • me

          Same for me- living in DC for so long has slowly turned me into a Republican. For more reasons than there is space to list here, but I’m glad that someone else feels the same. And no, it has nothing to do with race.

          • I think then, maybe, it is time to organize the Republican party here in DC. Fiscal responsibility, small business growth, continue school reform; where do I sign up? I guess that makes me racist.

          • me

            Agreed, though it is hard to imagine what Frankie James is saying below- that it would be a competetive race if there was a Republican running in this town. I am constantly berated and called a racist for being a Republican here, when all I really want is what you mention, plus maybe a little bit of personal responsibility thrown in. I’d be glad to organize with you, the ones that agree with me!!

          • There is a Republican party in DC. Unfortunately, they are Tea Party apologists and filled with midwesterners who are out here working on the Hill.

            What we need is a something in the middle.

          • I would/could never register Republican but I sure as hell can vote that way…

            Serve up some tea Jen!

          • It’s for this reason that I starter referring to myself as “Localican” several years ago. Living in DC established the boundaries of my liberalism, and any viable local R was going to get my vote. Problem is, I never found a viable local R candidate.

        • I took offense to CHDad’s comment as well.

          Stereotyping a specific group of people, regardless of your own ethnic backgroup, is quite racist.

          • Lets just say this… This election would not be so certain in November if there was a Republican to take up the challenge.

            I too after decades in my home town city have started to lean right and I am a life long Democrat.

        • Too funny. Check your grammar and spelling before you throw out your racist generalizations. YOU ARE a pendejo. And that’s directed to you CH Dad. Racism is its worst form of pendejada.

    • saf

      Wow, there are some major assumptions there. Examine your premises.

      • I assume nothing. I spoke to wide and varied group of my neighbors. They came from all colors and backgrounds. It was quite clear, Gray was the “black”. Gray was going to give the city back to “blacks” was what I was told on several occasions.

        • “It’s clear that a vast majority of DC’s Black population…”
          you are making a big assumption with your first comment. Sorry “CH Dad”, but to claim to know the opinions of a majority of a racial group based upon speaking to your neighbors, is extrapolating well beyond reason. Furthermore, when you claim the racial group’s opinions are illogical [not caring about “proper schooling,” wanting to remain in poverty (you apparently assume a vast majority of DC’s Black population is in poverty to begin with)] – you only further reveal your own ignorance and misunderstanding.
          Perhaps you are overwrought by the results of the primaries, but if I were you, I would take a deep breath and consider reexamining my assumptions about other races.

        • 64% of black voters voted for Gray
          64 % of white voters voted for Fenty

          Clearly there is a preceived difference in how Fenty performed by race

        • I have many white friends who voted Gray. Nuff said.

    • People, black and white, in DC’s neglected wards wanted and still want JOBS, not handouts. People want to work. Unemployment in DC’s neglected wards are higher than anywhere else in the city and higher than the national average.

      Those folks deserved and deserve attention from their elected Mayor. They weren’t getting it, they got mad, they voted the guy out. Such is democracy. DC’s Mayor has to work for the whole city, not just three of its wards.

      I wish soon to be Mayor Gray much success in his tenure.

      • The idea that the mayor can or should create jobs is exactly what’s wrong with politics in this city.

        the government should work to create conditions that foster businesses that create jobs.

        one need only note the absurd hatred by the established ANC of Capital City Diner (not to mention the red tape they dealt with when opening) to see what happens when a small business tries to create economic growth in the eastern part of the city.

      • and what is Gray’s plan to create jobs?

        • Doesn’t matter politically what Gray’s plan is or was. If the incumbent doesn’t get the job done, he gets voted out or at least a big scare come election time. Gray has his chance now, if he fails too, he’ll go the same way.

          • Of course it matters! Basing a vote solely on disliking the incumbent is both ignorant and irresponsible. I think the majority of people at least didn’t feel Fenty made the city worse off, so those who voted for Gray should have done so because they believed in his plan. You’re offering 4 YEARS to see if someone will fail or not? And if they fail miserably you risk dragging the city back to the sh*thole that it once was? that is crazy.

          • Fenty WAS getting the job done. He was transforming schools so that people could get jobs. Can’t give jobs to people who are the product of Marion Barry’s approach to education.

        • He has no plan except to stick it to the man.

      • What happened to personal responsibility? No one did the work for me to get me a job. I was out there networking, sending out resumes, volunteering, building my skills, and it led to an interview which then led to a job offer. People shouldn’t expect to be handed a job. You have to go out and find one.

        • me

          Personal responsibility is a concept that is only understood by people that vote Republican here.

          • saf

            Again, check your premises, examine your assumptions.

            I understand that you are bitter, and when your candidate loses, that’s how you will feel.

            But assuming that all who disagree with you are gimme-pigs who do not take any responsibility is a giant leap.

          • No… I am completely against the “entitled” ones and have been for Decades. There will always be people who need help and there will always be those who think they deserve it.

            I am responsible for my success and failure. So until I win the lottery, I know my responsibility is to get my fat ass up and go to work, everyday.

      • If the unemployed in DC would like jobs they might want to stop dropping out of school at a 40% clip.

      • jobs?

        Employment in the District of Columbia is up 3% this year, outpacing every other state in the nation. Last month alone, D.C. posted a gain of 17,800 jobs, up 2.5% from July — the country’s biggest gain.

        • Though also from that article:

          “The town’s unemployment rate is at 9.8%, and the federal government — the area’s largest employer — has been shedding jobs for three consecutive months.

          “It’s good to see improvement but we always need to be wary,” cautioned Heather Boushey, senior economist at the Center for American Progress, a D.C.-based organization with more than two dozen job openings. “I wouldn’t say that the great recession has ended for those in the District.”

          My hope is that some of those new jobs will start to be filled by DC residents.

      • Well stated.

    • “They don’t want a way out of poverty, they want hand outs.”

      @CH Dad you sound so ridiculous. You have just categorized this city’s entire black population as a lazy, impoverished mass. What makes you better than anyone else? B/c your mom told you so?

    • +1 never thought I’d want to vote Republican till this… guess that’s what I get for being registered as an Independent.


  • Can Fenty run as an independent now or is it too late?

    • It’s too late for him to be on the ballot as an independent but I think he can still campaign to be a write-in Independent?

      • Fenty has already declared that he will not run as a write-in candidate…

        • I’m still gonna write him in. Unfortunately a lot of us are independents and couldn’t vote in th primary.

          • right there with you. the political landscape in DC has almost made me reconsider my lack of party affiliation…almost.

          • I joined the Democratic party just so I could vote for Fenty. Once the early ballots are counted, I’m going back to no party. That’s how much I love my city…Still can’t believe I joined a political party.

          • Glad to know I’m not alone. Fenty may have been a jerk, but as the Washington City Paper pointed out, he’s our jerk, and he gets stuff done. And even if he did start off in a good position because of Tony Williams, a good leader builds on the good his predecessor did.

          • I’m a Republican who switched parties just to vote for Fenty in the Democratic Primary. Bummed that he didn’t win.

          • For those registered as independent or Rs, perhaps this suggests something: if the Democratic primary is essentially the election in DC — and it is, at least for mayoe — and since we don’t actually get a vote in Congress, why would you EVER register as anything other than a Dem in DC? The only time it matters is the Republican presidential primary.

        • I’d imagine it’s too hard to win as a write-in as apposed to being on the ballot as an independent.

    • I think at this point Fenty can only accept the Republican (or other party) write in nomination. Basically, the issue was decided back when he filed his petitions to run months ago, and he intended to run as a Democrat. Tony Williams screwed that up on his second term by filing fraudulent signatures, so he had to run independent but his opposition (Willie Williams) was also not on the ballot and a screaming maniac to boot.

      So, Fenty could encourage people to write him in but has said he won’t. Its over. Onward!

  • Not exactly happy with Gray winning. No more trimming off dead weight here in the district. Though I’m very happy that Kwame Brown won. Hopefully, he can help continue to help make progres more than our new Mayor will. And Harry Thomas winning is just a joke…but still better than Delano Hunter with NOM. Keep up the good work Kenyan McDuffie! We believe in you here in Ward 5.

    • saf

      Kwame? Progress?

      I don’t think so. I was not happy with our options for chair. I like Kwame, but I do NOT think he will be an effective chair. And I am really worried about how he will handle budgets.

      • I think the combination of Gray-Brown is going to be way too cozy of a relationship. Predictions: Cathy Lanier and M Rhee gone within 18 months. The new tax brackets that were argued about 4-5 months ago are quickly instituted.

        I wrote myself in for Council Chair…my real self, not my dog self.

    • i would have preferred Kenyan, but Tommy Thomas is becoming a better leader every year. chances are high that he will be our mayor someday.

      • Completely agree with you. He took a courageous stand last year on marriage equality and his oversight on committees (and into Fenty’s contracts shenanigans has been exemplary). Also, although I know it dashes the whole “Fenty supported parks and dog parks” meme — Thomas was very helpful in securing the new Ward 5 dog park. Came to meetings. Was supportive in getting that process through.

  • Write-in Fenty. Probably won’t work but it could, especially if there is enough nationwide press as to how DC just made itself a laughingstock.

    A haiku:

    Bye, taxi meters,
    Dog parks, Michelle Rhee. Hello
    Church double parking!

  • Have any of the PP here actually talked to Gray or met with Gray? I have, and I find the doom and gloom a little over the top. Take a deep breath, continue to engage in your community, and if you are worried about Gray’s “listening” style, make sure you are a person he is listening to as well by being involved.

    • don’t take some commentors dislike as gray as an overall POP readers sadness. it’s a tiny percentage that actually comments. and the readership is a great swath of the city. and clearly our city prefers gray.

      • 59,000 voted for Gray which is less than 10% of DC’s pouplation. Not exactly a “great swath of the city.”

        • I find it embarrasing that this city can only muster what, 110,000 votes in such a major election.

          I think it says much about the people. I can’t wait to see the numbers after they are broken down.

          • how many registered democrats are there?
            i was an independent for years and years so i didnt used to vote in the primaries.

          • There were 336,312 registered Democrats in D.C. at the time of the election.

          • Citywide primary elections often have low rates of turnout. A study found average turnout for municipal elections in California to be 44%. New York’s Democratic mayoral primary last year saw a 11% turnout. So I think DC’s turnout, though certainly disappointing, is about average among big cities.

          • @DCster – except that the DC primary is generally viewed as the actual election and generally gets the same (if not more) turnout.

          • @toasty
            though that phenomenon is not unique to the DC primary. Many cities (and even some states for that matter) have primaries in which a few voters end up determining the outcome.

    • +1 i thought his victory speech was on point. you can say that’s all just talk and we’ll see what actually happens. i’d agree, but it’s still a good sign. i like when a pol asks those who didn’t support him to hold his feet to the fire and stay engaged.

    • I agree with you Brookland. I don’t understand why there is so much talk about Gray being a return to the days of Marion Barry. Those days are long behind us.

      Fenty was no messiah. He kept the momentum built by Williams going. I don’t see any reason to believe that Gray will be any less effective in doing that.

      • perhaps because Marion Barry very publicly endorsed Gray, spoke as his surrogate on the news, etc? I mean, it’s not like people are just randomly coming up with this stuff.

      • Agree with your sentiment entirely FRENCH STREETER.
        But these comments are apeing the fear-mongering the Fenty campaign instilled in its base the last few weeks.

    • Why do you need to talk to him directly? He was elected to put the breaks on what Fenty was doing. Everyone wants good schools, but folks want good schools without attracting more outsiders. Outsiders push out the existing residents.

      Regarding Gray’s whole city approach, it doesn’t really matter what he personally wants; if he wants to be reelected, unlike Fenty, he’s going to serve the constituency that got him elected. Gray really doesn’t owe anything to wards other than 4, 5, 7, 8. They know it and they’ll make a point of reminding him of it.

      The term ‘arrogance’ when applied to Fenty wasn’t about his personality, it was the fact that he was arrogant enough to think that he could be evenhanded in his approach to the city and get reelected. Fenty was elected by all the wards and so he took a whole city approach. Folks may like the idea of a whole city approach in principle, but when it came right down to it, they want to be taken care of they way they were accustomed to.

      And all you independents and quasi republicans who want to whine that you don’t get a voice can suck it. If you want to actually have an effect on politics you join the Democrat party. I could care less if you are a closet fascist. You can vote for whomever you want once the general election comes, but a primary in this city is a private election for the members of a given political party to elect their candidates for the general election. You can’t vote in another party’s primary any more than I can walk into my neighbors house and help myself to his beer. Only a quixotic moron registers as an independent to lodge his/her dissatisfaction with the existing party structure.

      • Well it’s about time Wards 4, 5, 7, and 8 got more attention from the public servants that are supposed to be serving them along with the rich wards. This election result was the just result.

  • I am amazed at all the Fenty support. He has allowed Michelle Rhee to impose a corporate cut-throat mentality on DC Schools, which may show short-term improvement as teachers compete against each other, but will in the long term be to the detriment of the academic collaborative environment that fosters true educational excellence. He has alienated the city council, choosing to act unilaterally and without any sense of inclusiveness. He has systematically ignored large swaths of the residents and community organizations in the district and ignored criticism or calls for changes to his policies. Juvenile violent crime has gotten worse.

    If you thought Dubya was a despot, Fenty 2 would have been worse. Yes, parts of the city have received lots of attention, but many parts have deteriorated. And remember that the impetus behind many of the gains in areas of DC were the result of reforms and investments started by Anthony Williams, not Adrian Fenty.

    Many think this is Black/White thing. It is not. It is more about those who have lived here 10 years or less and those who have lived here 10 years, 20 years and more. The longer you have been here, the less likely you are to tolerate a mayor whose actions don’t match his words. He talks about “community”, “family”, and a “united” DC, while his actions are exclusionary, he ignores petitions from the citizens for a moment of his time, he shows up late or not at all to community events. He did not even poll to find out what the citizens thought of him or his policies. This is a mayor who thought he knew best no matter what anyone else said.

    I say, good riddance, Adrian Fenty. You had a chance to finally unite this city and provide long-term prosperity here. Instead, you turned your back on those you didn’t want to hear and you created more division than existed when you were elected. Perhaps you will learn your lesson.

    • “Many think this is Black/White thing. It is not.”

      Unfortunately polling strongly suggests otherwise.

      • Incorrect. It just so happens that a majority of white voters have not lived here long, while a majority of black voters have been here 20+ years.

      • most white people i know voted for gray.
        about half the black people i know went with fenty. maybe just under half.
        but i dont know ANYONE west of the park that went with gray.

        • Well if the people west of the park are disappointed, they should have gotten out to vote. The people spoke. Time to move on.

        • you must not have noticed the numerous Gray yard signs west of the park. They were all over chevy chase, cleveland park, etc.

        • As usual, people voted based on class more than they did race. But the press has more fun and sells more papers/ad space talking up race.

          • Very true. I’d love to see some exit polling breaking down the vote by years of residence. I think DL’s suggestion that a majority of long-time DC residents voted for Gray to be plausible. However, I am not aware of any organization that actually conducted exit polls yesterday – did anyone talk to someone yesterday that was doing an exit poll?

          • That’s a smokescreen. People in Wards 4/5 are solidly middle class by regional standards and they still went with Gray.

            Class is a 10% effect.

    • DC schools are not a job program. And, I’ve lived in this for over 15 years.

      And Fenty’s word matched his actions. He promised to clean-up the schools and he did. And your argument about sections of the city being ignored is bullshit, the Post debunked that weeks ago.

      • Really? How did the Post debunk that? Where is the development and jobs in Wards 7 and 8? Fenty’s words matched his actions? He cleaned up the schools? The schools with the greatest needs still have not gotten attention and are falling apart, and have no textbooks. Closing down schools in need is not cleaning them up. Firing hundreds of school staff and implementing a draconian policy is not cleaning them up. Do some research before you spout out all this BS

        • Schools were a mess and still are. Move “draconian” reforms need to take place.

          You sound more worried about the teachers jobs than the education and future or the children.

          Shame on you…

        • Actually this is the first year that all students got the their appropriate textbooks as reported in the news.

          You’re either confused or full of it.

          • I don’t believe everything I read in the news.
            SYEP is a jobs program (and a damn good one at that), but the schools are mainly being run to educate and not to employ – hence the layoffs.
            Many schools were slated for closure and textbooks were being tracked by new methods, well before Fenty was elected.

      • Maybe you should step outside of CH sometime CH Dad…you ppl that depend on the media to tell you what life is really kill me. And he cleaned up schools? Ha…They may have raised a few overall test scores…that means very little in the grand scheme of things…why dont you go sit in on a class, why dont you go talk to some of the teachers/students…i know several who would tell you not a damn thing has changed. But I guess b/c POP, or Washinton Post, or another blogger didnt write it it cant be the truth?

        • Actually, I’ve sat in on a few classes. At Tubman and HD Cooke, mostly. And, I step outside CH every single day. So you are wrong on multiple fronts.

          • Where exactly are those schools located? O both located in Wards that he won…surprising. Go take a trip to Stanton Elementary, b/c you know thats in DC too you know…Sure, your kids may not go there so you are less inclined to care, but someone else’s kids attend the Stanton. They voted for Gray. And your point about stepping out of your CH every day means nothing if you are going downtown to work…what a waste…

          • I don’t work “downtown”…. I work in SE. So you are wrong again… looks like you’re build a track record.

        • The surveys before the election showed that people with students in DC public schools overwhelmingly supported Fenty. It was people with kids in private schools or charter schools who didn’t, along with retirees without any kids in the schools.

        • That’s because the WTU is fighting tooth or nail against M Rhee’s reforms. You can’t have better schools until you get rid of the old teachers.

    • “detriment of the academic collaborative environment that fosters true educational excellence.”

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh this is rich. which part of the dc public schools were exhibiting “educational excellence” prior to Rhee exactly?

      • +2. that was awesome.

        • You are both ignorant fools. You obviously know nothing about education. Thankfully, I do. I did not say the schools were in good shape, but making teachers compete for money and jobs is not how you reform a school system. It’s how you put the fear of losing their jobs into teachers, who then see one another as rivals. That is not good education, that’s ignorant corporate cut-throat snobbery that will long-term destroy DC schools.

          • You obviously have all the answers, so hopefully Gray will hire you to replace Rhee.

          • Because holding people accountable for their jobs is a bad idea. I think DL is actually Marion Barry.

          • You are right. I am Marion Barry. And I am Mayor for Life

          • “That is not good education, that’s ignorant corporate cut-throat snobbery that will long-term destroy DC schools.”

            seriously? what’s left to destroy? which part of how the dc schools were functioning pre-fenty are we trying to save?

            the fact that I could lose my job at any time does not make me perceive my coworkers as rivals. that’s just absurd.

            thanks for the name-calling by the way. stay classy.

          • DL, are you a teacher? Have you ever voted for Marion Barry?

          • i’m fully in favor of the “cut-throat” corporate model. it works at the university level, and it works just as well at the primary/secondary level. it’s not even all that corporate.

            at my job, my performance bonus is specifically linked to the sales that i bring in. these teachers are being judged against a much more qualitative criteria – did your students perform up to expected levels or not? did they show improvement or not? we’re not talking dollars per point here – we’re talking about accountability for teachers to TEACH students what they’re supposed to learn in that year (which is still woefully behind much of the world, but that’s a different debate).

            reminding teachers of their huge responsibility by linking their performance to their job security is completely acceptable.

          • DC’s athlete’s aren’t even academically eligible per NCAA standards when they graduate with a DCPS degree. The courses are so watered down, that they aren’t eligible for credit.

            If you moved out of DC for a few years, you’d realize how bad the schools are.

      • Eric, do you actually have children, or is the “reform of the schools” just good parlor conversation for you?

        What evidence do you have that Rhee has made the schools better in her short tenure, and that Gray won’t be able to continue to improve schools?

        • Caring for the future does not require children.

          You are voided.

          • No, I am not voided. I am sick of hearing about how Rhee was this great savior who swept in and made drastic changes that have “saved: the schools.

            I still can’t send my child to the neighborhood school, and neither could Fenty, if you remember. Thank god for charters, or I would join the vast majority of parents who move to the suburbs when their kids hit Kindergarten age.

            I have no reason to believe that Gray doesn’t plan to continue to work to improve educational opportunties for all DC residents. The suggestion that only Michelle Rhee would be capable of such a feat is simply absurd.

        • Test score improvements under Rhee speak for themselves. This article talks about a downward dip in elementary for 2010, but look at the numbers over her entire time in the job – you’ll see a significant improvement.

        • It’s true, she just happened to be doing an effective job at the time. If a few teachers got their feeling s hurt in the meantime, boo hoo.

    • I am white, have lived in DC for more than 10 years, and I voted for Fenty. I work and volunteer East of the River and have a lot of sympathy for parents who have lost jobs, but at the same time, I don’t think it’s true that Fenty ignored the residents East of the River. I think school reform is going to affect our low-income kids the most…Michelle Rhee has said time and time again that she believes the achievement gap is a fixable problem.

      I think that people voted emotionally, instead of logically (as usual).

    • I actually liked M Rhee’s cut throat approach to DC schools. They’ve been bad for 30 years. Anyone without a vested interest in the WTU, which means anyone who doesn’t have a family member working for DCPS, understands this.

      Juvenile violent crime is bad because the City Council has enacted laws that make it impossible to punish juveniles. That’s the way DC’s majority population wants it. Otherwise the law would have been changed 20 years ago.

    • I think King and Malloy from WaPo summarize the racial component to the election pretty well:

      Kings article is one of the most overtly racist things I’ve read in a mainstream paper in quite a while. Imagine if all uses of African American or Black were replaced with Caucasian/White. Think that would fly?

  • CH Dad–you made yourself look like a PENDEJO by your ignorant statement.

  • Listen jackass, when you say things like “It’s clear that a vast majority of DC’s Black population doesn’t give a damn about reform” and all they care about is “loot” you’re using often repeated language that is proliferated by racists trying to portray urban blacks as criminals or leaches (depending on your definition of loot) and completely unable to vote for the “right” (as defined by you) candidate because they’re too stupid to understand reform.

    I voted for Fenty, but dont you understand that those who voted for Gray were voting for the REFORM candidate, in their minds.

    Just because you’re latino doesnt make you immune to being labeled a racist. There are plenty.

    • They aren’t too stupid to understand reform, I never said that, you did. Blacks, or any other ethnic group, are not intellectually inferior. Men (humans) are created equal.

      They voted for a return to a system that favors patronage and cronyism over effective, neutral government that strives to service all citizens equally.

      They complain about DC schools, yet the vote to return to an era when the schools were a jobs program.

      They complain about a lack of jobs, yet they vote against economic development.

      • To CH Dad – I’m not statistician, but my issue with your statement stems from this: “I spoke to wide and varied group of my neighbors. They came from all colors and backgrounds.”

        You are extrapolating based on a small, skewed set of data about who is complaining and what they were voting for. Having an opinion about Gray’s policies and Fenty’s policies is one thing, assuming that a ‘vast majority of DC’s Black population’ feels a certain way about anything based on what your neighbors say or what a few polls told you is shaky at best and ignorant at worst.

      • I voted for Fenty — held my nose when I did it. But, if you think Fenty was not engaged in patroage and cronyism, you are sadly mistaken.

        • +1
          I also voted for Fenty. I believe that life in the city has remained stable over the past 3.5 years, so there is no reason to vote out somebody who seems to be doing an effective job at running the city.

          That said, I’m not afraid of change, and don’t fear for the worst now that Gray has won.

      • Everything you argue here ignores that the black citizens voted for Anthony Williams and Adrian Fenty in overwhelming numbers. So basically, your premises are fatally flawed, unless you think Williams and Fenty ran on platforms of a return to the old guard and all the other pejoratives you’ve listed, which I am sure you do not.

    • Did any of you read the Washington City Paper write up on the election and the demographics driving the election? Apparently not.

      Listen folks, I’ve lived in DC for nearly three decades and I’ve seen it all. You new arrivals who think that you are urban pioneers because you moved into a half million dollar condo in U Street, and that you “know” DC, can go all sing kumbaya and convince yourself the biggest issues DC has is that it cracks down on snowball fights in the middle of the street.

      This election, just like all the others for the past ~ 3 decades was completely about race. It is purely a black and white issue, and worst yet a poor crime ridden black versus a well to do white population.

      Many of you seem to know DC’s population shrank drastically for the past 30 years, but none of you seem to realize who was leaving. It was the well to do, educated and employed black middle class that was dominant in the city. The uneducated, crime ridden black population stayed and thrived under the policies of the crackhead in chief Barry. Barry spent 20 years filling every agency in dc with friends and collegues, people who simply approached him on the street asking for a job one day was the deputy of DDOT the next. It has taken 2 terms of Williams and one of Fenty to lean out DC government to the smallest it has EVER been, and arguably the most efficient.

      Did any of you even watch any of the local tv coverage the past few months. Reporters would ask someone in Ward 8 why they were voting for Gray, and it was either because “Barry told me to”, or “Cause Fenty didn’t give enough jobs to the blacks”. “Give”? GIVE?. We have an entire (thankfully shrinking) population of the District who actively believe and go on TV to tell people they think they should get some six figure paying DC government job simply because they are black. Doesn’t matter that they never finished highschool, and were felons by the age of 22, they “deserve” it.

      In the first 8 years of the 21st century 2000-2008, the black population went from 61% to 54%, the white population went from 34 to 40%. Latino, Asian, all increased as well. The black population was 70% when I moved here in 81.

      The enduring joke on the poor black population of the City is that more money has been spent in Wards 7 and 8 in the past 4 years than in the previous 10 combined.

      They complain about jobs, when DC is the jobs mecca of the entire nation right now. High paying fed and contracting jobs are literally growing on trees, but you have an entire swaths, 20% of entire wards who never graduated from college and they wonder why you have a 25% unemployment rate in their ward.

      This all came down to, “My city is getting too white and Gray will give me a job and turn the city back over to the blacks”.

      Well, unfortunatly the back people who gave a damn all left. Thankfully the population of the dead weight that is left is shrinking fast enough that I don’t think that it will be able to determine another mayoral election ever again.

      Call it racist if you like. I’ve lived here long enough so that I can simply call it history.

      • Meant to say “20% who never graduated from highschool”, not college

      • + a billion.

      • I think Joker nailed it, and Colbert King’s column only confirms this. In the eyes of many blacks in this city, DC may have been a basketcase before Fenty and Williams, but it was THEIR basketcase…

        • I’d say it actually worked just the way it was supposed to: the DC government was a giant jobs-creation engine for folks who were for all intents and purposes unemployable in the private sector. General government dysfunction was just a well-understood by-product.

          Given the choice between a $65k / year sinecure or well-plowed streets, you’re going to choose the job every time.

          It’s not racist to say that the poor and skill-less behave rationally.

      • Joker is spot on. I am from one of those middle class families that moved out in the late 80’s. I grew up in VA, went to college and just moved back into the city this year. The majority of people supporting Grey are as you described, sadly many of them are old friends and family of mine. Fenty is far from perfect and his indifference and cronyism made him plenty of enemies, but I would say that he has made a positive difference in DC overall, including the more neglected areas.

      • Sounds accurate to me and I am going on 30 years in DC.

      • Why anyone still listens to Marion Barry is beyond me.

        And it is not in DC alone that people who live in areas where there is more tax money coming in than tax money going out bitch about having to pay taxes. The whole damn tea party movement was founded on the principles of “we hate taxes/now give us our benefits”.

        I have worked since I was a teenager. When I was without a job, I didn’t whine; I temped until I could find permanent work. Nobody has ever “given” me a job unless I was qualified. But I guess I don’t know the right people to whine to so I can get a cushy position earning six figures.

        If I haven’t said it before, I will say now: You don’t vote for the guy you’d rather have beer with. Unless you knew the person before, you are never going to have beer with a mayor, a congressman, or the president. Vote for the guy who gets stuff done.

        Dr. Pangloss, do you mean that the poor and skill-less behave *irrationally*?

        • Dr. Pangloss, do you mean that the poor and skill-less behave *irrationally*?

          No, quite the opposite. If you’re poor, uneducated, and have zero prospects, you’re damned right you vote for the candidate who promises to set you up with a job. Certainly more so than the candidate who promises to add more bike lanes.

          The idea that this is somehow controversial, much less “racist” is ludicrous.

          • I don’t understand your ignorance.

            Don’t poor people own bikes and/or dogs in this city?

            Why are bike lanes and dog parks always used as a bad example of how Mayor Fenty favored white people?

          • I don’t think he meant that example as a white people only thing.

            He’s saying they acted rationally by trying to get something that will significantly and exclusively benefit themselves (an undeserved job) vs. something that will benefit everyone that wants to use it (bike lanes).

      • What demographic breakdowns don’t include under “black” is the number that are African immigrants and the children of African immigrants. These immigrants–Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somali, Ghanaians, Nigerians–are typically more educated and more likely to speak English than those from any other continent. That means more likely to be civically engaged. How many are there? Maybe 12,000. Maybe 25,000. Lacking the 2010 Census information, I just don’t know. But there are probably enough to make DC’s African-American population drop below 50% of the total city population.

  • I think a lot of the commentors here are overpraising Fenty for things he’s not really responsible for.

    The best thing that Fenty did was get elected at the height of a major real estate boom here in the District. Major construction projects were built during his tenure that have transformed many city neighborhoods, infusing them with young professional people. The construction of these projects is largely due to underlying economic conditions, and the work of the work of the private parties who financed, developed, and built them.

    The real estate boom also meant a giant boost to the District government’s finances because of skyrocketing property tax revenues. As a result he could go on a school renovation and construction spree.

    Gray is not going to have those advantages.

    • But Jake, Fenty governed mostly under one of the biggest economic disasters of the past 100 years. He was the recipient of good times for approximately 1.5 yrs, and awful times for the next two. If anything Williams presided over the best of times, with booming property valuations providing HUGE surpluses with which to improve the city (not to take anything away from Williams, who saved the city).

      You are correct that you cannot attribute macro economic realities to mayors of cities. These are national trends, but that just proves my point that you’d be a fool to blame a mayor for high unemployment if it’s par for the course nationally and among similar demographic sets.

      I think Gray will be a good, stablizing Mayor. We may lose a bit of the innovation in government that we had undr Fenty, and have lesser qualified cabinet heads running the show, but I think the city government is more or less under cruise control now.

      • I mostly agree with you, and I would be a fool if I were blaming the Mayor for high unemployment. That’s why I’m not.

        It’s definitely true that the last two years were very bad for the country’s ecnomoy, and that many major development deals were cratered or put on hold in the District because of the financial climate. But in terms of governing the District, property tax revenues were still way above where they were a few years earlier because of the increased assessments. And for the many professional people who depend on the federal government for their livelihood, times were very good.

        I also think there’s a demographic shift that’s going on that is responsible for most of the change we’ve seen in the District, and it will continue regardless of who is the Mayor. For a variety of reasons, young professional people are choosing to live in the District. These people pay taxes, don’t commit crimes, and make the city more attractive to retail businesses.

  • Hmmm… lets see– lower crime; more people and businesses moving into the city; better education; better city services; more revenue generated through taxes (without increasing them!); more parks; cleaner streets; revitalized sections of the city… OF COURSE DC votes out Fenty!! These are the same people that voted Barry in 3 times after he was convicted of drug use… give me a break. This is why we’re a laughing stock. The vast majority of this city cares more that their mayor shows up to sing with them at their baptist church and hangs in the hood pretending to care, than actually doing something. Makes me sick.

    • If that’s the case anon at 10:40 am, if the vast majority of the city does indeed care greatly that their mayor show up to be with them, then why wouldn’t a smart leader do just that?

      Is it that difficult to move forward with reforms while still making the time and putting in the effort to show people you give a hoot about them? Simple gestures. Fenty refused to do them. He’s just not that smart.

      • Probably because the Mayor has better things to do than hand out free cigarettes at the Popeye’s in Anacostia, or whatever the hell it takes to get DC’s more ignorant residents to vote for you.

        • Well, now he has all the time in the world to do whatever he pleases. Perhaps spending an hour a month at “Popeye’s” may have been worth something.

    • Sad but true. It’s funny tht many of the people who criticized Fenty for being “corrupt” had no problem voting for Barry over and over again.

    • Entitled people are needy. That is clear.

  • Lot of sour grapes in this thread.

    My biggest hope is that all the people who claimed they would move out of the city if Gray won make good on their threat.

  • The whole DC politics arena is laughable. Keep telling yourselves things will change by voting someone new in.

  • taxi meters,
    Dog parks,
    Church double parking

    You touched on the most pressing issues in the city. Obviously I am being sarcastic, but seriously do you think these things resonate with people who are unemployed or struggling to make ends meet?

    “It’s clear that a vast majority of DC’s Black population doesn’t give a damn about reform, good governance, proper schooling, economic development, etc…”

    Really? How soon we forget Fenty won EVERY ward last election.

    “What are they most interested in??? Where’s my loot?”

    Yep, the street of Ward 7 & 8 are paved in gold…

    • No, I think they resonate with the people who are actually paying taxes in the city.

      • Maybe you are right but Fenty’s job was to appeal to voters, preferably 51% of voters not just tax payers. I pay taxes…I voted for Fenty and not one of those issues factored into my decision. Fenty has two problems Independent who likely would have voted for Fenty but could not in a primary. I also know several young professionals who have lived in DC for years now and never changed their residency to DC. They could not vote, another group who would have favored Fenty.

        I live in Ward 5, economic development has been limited (I voted against Harry Thomas for that reason) I frequent Wards 1 – 6, I cannot honestly say I know what is going on in Wards 7 & 8 first hand, nor can I tell you if there are tangible improvements during Fenty’s 3+ years in office.

    • Exactly. Even though I voted for Fenty, because of the positive changes that I have seen in DC. I completely agree that Fenty lost this race on his own. He arrogant and thought that he was quite honestly “above” talking to members of the community.

      I understand that people are disappointed, but damn. The clique of blaming the poor, uneducated person, whom you think is “looking” for a handout is old.

      • That’s not why he lost. That’s what Gray campaigners told the media why he was going to lose. The WP dutifully reported it.

        The south is famous for coded speech. “Arrogance” is coded speech.

    • Really? How soon we forget Fenty won EVERY ward last election.

      “What are they most interested in??? Where’s my loot?”

      Yep, the street of Ward 7 & 8 are paved in gold…

      The truly comical thing is that you don’t even seem to grasp that, while Fenty won Wards 7 & 8 in the last election…HE WAS JUST VOTED OUT OF OFFICE FOR FAILING TO BRING HOME THE BACON.

      Can you really be that obtuse?

      • I am obtuse, clearly, so educate me.
        Fenty was voted out because he was perceived to be nonresponsive to the interests of those in Wards 7 & 8 (and others).

        “We have an entire (thankfully shrinking) population of the District who actively believe and go on TV to tell people they think they should get some six figure paying DC government job simply” = Bring home the Bacon?

        This is nonsense these people are not looking 100k a year jobs, but they want A job. Do I think the contractors who are granted tax benefits and incentives on my tax dime should use laborers who live in DC, I do. Those laborers will spend money in DC at those same small businesses that ‘we’ are trying to nurture. I support the inclusion a reasonable percentage of low income, ‘work force, ’ along with market rate units (I favor a ratio of about 5% : 15% : 80% ) housing if developers are going to be granted incentives for residential development. No high density low income housing it does not work. Like I said I voted for Fenty, Gray’s plans are vague but these are two of his more concrete campaign platforms and these things resonate with regular folk.

        • Your previous post took issue with the idea that poor residents vote primarily for jobs & patronage. As evidence, you offered the fact that wards 7 & 8 voted for Fenty. Your point was completely illogical. It’s *because* Fenty failed to deliver the “loot” that he was voted out of office by–what?– a 70/30 margin in those wards.

          Again, Fenty was voted out (with extreme prejudice) because he failed to provide Barry-style patronage to the chronically unemployable. As far as contractors hiring DC residents, there’s already a legal requirement to hire workers in DC if you can find qualified workers, or those willing to actually show up. Too often you can’t.

          Such incentives are great; I support them too. But at the end of the day, you can choose to get the work done, or provide make-work for folks. Barry chose the latter; Fenty chose the former. It remains to be seen which Gray will choose.

          • “As far as contractors hiring DC residents, there’s already a legal requirement to hire workers in DC if you can find qualified workers, or those willing to actually show up. Too often you can’t.”

            That’s why there is a need to train workers to be qualified for the jobs that are out there. Saying contractors must set aside jobs for local residents and doing nothing to train those residents (e.g. cutting adult education and job training programs) is not the way to get qualified applicants matched with well-paying positions.

  • I wish Gray all the success in the world.

    I am surprised, however, that people think Fenty has done a poor enough job to warrant the boot. He was exceptionally tin-eared, but it’s hard to argue a lot of positive things have happened in the city under his watch. Perhaps Gray will be the uber-mayor so many think he will be, but unfortunately I think there’s a decent chance in a couple of years we will be talking about the “good ‘ol Fenty days”.

  • Time for “Don’t blame me, I voted for Fenty” bumper stickers.

  • I’m willing to give Gray a chance. He is by nature a deliberator, so any change will be DRAMATICALLY slowed down. That may be good, may not. I dont know. I just dont want to see see good things that are happening stalled or killed off.

    • i’m not sure either. but i think we should form a committee to investigate it, with results due in early 2012, and then a special panel to decide on what path to take towards implementation in the 2014 budget cycle.

  • Well, I for one have found this thread to be enormously enlightening. For at least I now know who amongst the PoP commenters are the racists and the elitists.

  • I’m disappointed, but I’m keeping a ‘wait and see’ attitude.
    Reading King’s Post article, I’m reminded so much of New Orleans’ politics and how it always seems to come down to race. I really don’t give a damn who a mayor appoints as long as they are competent. They can be purple for all I care, but in the “grocery stores, beauty parlors, barbershops and churches where black Washingtonians congregate” the hot topic seems to always be that ‘these people don’t look like us’ or ‘they’re taking OUR city away from US’.
    Granted, the example King cited in his opener was of someone he considered not at all qualified for the job, but stick to those fact. Why instantly make it about race? This is where you lose me – and frankly, this is where the sentiment comes from that all black people care about is getting their “loot” (ie, political appointments, cushy gov’t jobs, hand outs from said job holders).

    Not saying I agree with that, but it’s difficult to maintain an open mind when the argument from the other side is so often framed strictly by race, and a thinly veiled accusation of Whitey creepin’ in and taking “our” city.

    • It’s really a class war, not a race war. Just so happens that DC’s working class and poverty class (at least the ones that can vote) are mostly black. And it’s easier to go by what you see (race) than what you feel (class), but make no mistake, if the black folks here were mostly comfortably middle class or upper middle class/upper class, things would be very different.

      • I’m taking my cues from the referenced article by King. He talks race. A lot. Starting in his very first paragraph.
        I don’t disagree with you, but these are the words people are using.

      • Who do you think voted for Gray? Not just poor Blacks? Whites voted for him and so did middle class Blacks.

        Now….ask your self why? Let me give you a list.

        High taxes + Aggressive fines + dog parks + bike paths + unnec Trolley + massive teachers fired + Lax services in certain wards = Fenty loss

        Stop stereotyping and ask more questions. Hell, visit other wards.

        • wow. fenty actually got my vote because of all of the things you mentioned. no joke.

          • I know, seriously. Except high taxes but Fenty has nothign to do with that. But all those are my issues, plus meters in cabs and towing MD church parkers.

        • Fenty mishandled the media and they made him pay the price. 5 minutes of scratching beyond the surface of the Gray soundbites would have examined what arrogance really meant. There are a lot of folks who simply don’t have the experience with DC politics to know anything better than what they read in bylines.

  • am i the only one that thinks that my life will be exactly the same under gray as it was under fenty?

    i work for myself
    i have no kids
    i own my home
    i already have routines and a community that make me happy.

    so what’s gonna change?

    • Well dumbass, when your neighbors who have kids move after school reform is derailed I hope you’ll be happy picking up their lost taxes, and buying twice as much at all the stores to keep them open.

      • I can’t argue that I’m not a dumbass. Maybe I am.
        But ive lived here under Barry, Williams and fenty and I’ve always been happy here. The city is not going to implode under gray.

        Do you really think our tax base is going to up and move because ofthe schools? Most of the schools already sucked so they were just as likely to move under fenty.

        Think what you want, but I’ll be surprised if things change for the worse. I’ll come back here and tell you that you were right. We will throw you a parade.


          Rhee had made real progress in getting parents who care about performance to put their kids into public schools – parents who would have never considered doing it without being catered to. Those parents convinced other parents and a grassroots effect was taking place.

          I don’t think its so much that the taxbase will leave, but it’s more that they’ll stop sending their kids to public school. Watch the performance numbers nosedive.

          • Schools started to improve before Rhee, at least here on the Hill. The parents were motivated and helped make DCPS schools desirable. It’s not like they were able to kick back and relax once Rhee was in charge though. Engaged parents changed those schools and will continue to improve the schools – not one person.

            Again, I like her a lot, but she’s only one person. She didn’t single-handedly change anything. Parents cared long before she came to DC and they’ll continue to care if she leaves.

  • Some of us just prefer good governance and smart growth policies, and have the ability to read the near-constant stream of polling results in the Post showing a clear, consistent and determinative racial split in candidate support.

    • The WPost is not right about everything….geez. They report based on THEIR perception. The issues are deeper than that. They are class-based and they are cultural.

      Some ppl who have lived here for a while (white and Black) have a different sense of community than some who are new. For example, the idea of aggressively towing cars at churches? That’s not a very community-friendly approach.

      That’s just one example.

  • so glad i’m leaving this wannabe city. yep, i’m white and i’m OUT. done with all of this “gimme gimme gimme” crap that so many of the low-income (i don’t care if you’re white or black) folks of this town think they are entitled. i’ll laugh when this city self-destructs, and all of the people who voted for gray are whinging about not being handed jobs. i agree with everyone who said (not in so many words) that it’s their own fault that they don’t have a good job, or any job for that matter, because they didn’t effing finish high school. get your GED and DO something with your goddamn life.

    i’m OUT.

    • Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

      • i won’t, thanks!

        • To Anon:

          I hear states like Idaho and North Dakota are hospitable for white people like you. Obviously, you can’t handle living in a community with persons of color. Hey, if you are lucky, you might find a “Meet-Up” for a local KKK or Neo-Nazi group. Idaho has lots of those groups.

          Happy trails, prick.

          • moving to west philly. lived there for 15 years, and i never should have left. i had great neighbors [no they weren’t white] who would watch my house while i was away and i would theirs, who didn’t give a crap that we weren’t the same color.

            the segregation in DC is ridiculous. what the hell do i care if the apartment i was renting is filled. it cost way too much for way too little of space in a city definitely not worth its cost of living.

    • Let me know if you need help packing, and also, take Rhee with you! Woo hoo!

    • dont worry, the apartment that you were RENTING for way too much money will be filled in no time. Thanks for your time.

    • where is it that you think you’ll be able to run to where you won’t be confronted with issues that stem from the “haves vs have-nots”?

      You can jump ship, but guess what? We’re all moored together and these problems will only grow if ignored and you can bet you’ll feel it way out in the suburbrs or the mountains or wherever it is you’re headed.

      • like i said above, moving to west philly. it’s not that i’m jumping ship, i’m returning to my previous ship. i hate how in your face the poverty crap is in DC – i’m sick of encountering it every fucking day of my life. i don’t live at poverty level, i’m not in public office, i volunteer when i can, i donate to various charities, blah blah… i’m a pretty goddamn decent person, and dc has made me a very angry person. i’m leaving before it gets worse.

      • Well, DC for one. In another 8-12 years. It’s not as though Gray’s administration will even make a dent in the progress of gentrification. He’s going to have some token set-asides like IZ that will tinker with the displacement around the edges, but the gig is pretty much already up.

        The 2014 election will be quite different from this one, and the 2018 election will be nothing at all like this one. Especially if Gray reveals himself to be antithetical to middle-class interests.

    • Hey! Folks just want their fair share of your money! Stop leaving them behind!

  • Wow…the racist garbage coming out of the Fenty supporters in this forum is really disappointing.

      • Agree. And DC is filled with educated, liberal elites. (Unless their dog parks are put on the chopping block) Fail!

      • Totally agree. It’s disgusting. I’m a white native washingtonian and voted for fenty btw but am OK with Gray. He’ll be fine.

        Reading through this crap makes me wonder if “the plan” is real. Sure feels that way today.

        • And you idiots complain about stereotyping…

          • So yeah…there are way too many education, elitists in DC who have an attitude of entitlement. All they want to do is push locals, working class and anyone NOT just like them aside so that their life can be more comfortable.

            I am not from DC but have lived here for a while and I see ppl who aren’t familiar with the rich history and culture of the ENTIRE city. They don’t realize what the fabric of DC is about.

            This kind of attitude would not fly even in middle America or in a city of any size. But DC’s small and the locals are brown. I’m educated, middle class and sick of it.

          • i’m ok with anyone who is an elitist about education. last i checked, doesn’t elite mean “good?” those people want to have a good education afforded to the district’s kids? imagine that.

  • I’m disheartened. When the vast majority of voters say DC is better off than 4 years ago (during boom years) I hoped the city would get another 4 years of improvement. Now there is uncertainty and lost momentum. Rhee will leave the schools and the turnover/new approach will set us back again for a couple of years or longer.

    Don’t take points off the board in sports and don’t kill momentum when the population believes things are headed in the right direction. Hope Grey delivers.

    • unemployment is much higher than it was 4 yrs. ago. poverty is the city is higher that it was 4 years ago. “most” people did not say the city is better. the polls say it.
      and polls are not accurate.

  • Community builders deserve to hold public office, not those who cater only to their friends and the people with the most money and property.

    I wish soon to be Mayor Gray much success, but real progress will only come when we rely less on elected officials to save us and more on an organized and engaged citizenry working together to solve problems and move forward.

  • heres the big thing about this election: VINCENT ORANGE DID NOT WIN.

  • Do some of you all even KNOW what goes on in other parts of the City? guessing by the comments, I would say no. Newsflash there are PLENTY of middle class and upper income Black people living here. And better the poor parts of town makes sense. It’s not about handouts but city development.

    There are plenty of people who voted for Gray and it had nothing to do with race but about fairness. How do you all know Gray’s incapable of doing a good job?

    • I believe Gray can do a good job. But, the people that elected him (his base) elected him to clean out whitey… You ignore your base at your own risk…

      • It appears that Fenty ignored his base (the city) at his own risk. Granted, some of his constituents fared well during his term, but even a larger number either did not view their improved conditions as due to Fenty (many of the educational reform and infrustructure projects were developed under Williams), or did not view them as accomplishments in the first place (spending down the city’s reserves, supporting trading away DC’s ability to determine our own gun laws, vetoing bills supported by our legislature, shifting money allocated for one thing to something completely different).
        I don’t know whether Gray will take the city back to the good ‘ole Williams days of fiscal rectitude and long-term planning, or forward in a new direction that is all his own. I do think, though, that Gray’s willingness to seek support from a large base and listen to those who disagree with him will be preferable to the rather autocratic style of governance that we’ve become accustomed to over the past four years. So I hope that when the dust settles, a lot of disappointed Fenty supporters will give Gray another look before casting their votes in the general election.

        • What exactly did people west of the park gain from the Fenty administration directly? The only real difference I saw was a single dog park out in Ward 3. I saw more school development in W 6-7-8 than anywhere else.

          Everyone else just had private employment jobs –not city jobs…not jobs “given” by Fenty… they just had their own jobs that they acquired by having marketable skills and showing up to work every day to non DC Gov’t. employers. Gray isn’t going to change that.

          Spending down the reserves was 50% Gray+ City Council. Read up on how a spending bill is passed.

      • I supported him and it had nothing to do with “whitey.” You sound irrational.

  • DC politics is a unique beast. I actually saw a campaign slogan of “This city OWES you.” That FLOORED me.

    So much for “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”

  • Boo. I won’t be here to witness first hand how it pans out, but I really hope Gray does a good job for all parts of the city. And I honestly think that if everyone who voted for Fenty in this primary writes him in, plus all of the independents, he could probably beat out Gray. Who knows? Best of luck to both, and I’ll keep my fingers crossed that if Gray ends up winning it all, he ends up working out well for everyone.

  • I didn’t vote and I don’t believe the outcome of this election is going to change anything in this city. The district is run by Democrats who are going to take it in the same general direction. I think my sense of fatalism was reflected in the small turnout.

  • Wait a minute! Gray is not mayor yet. He could lose to whatever non-Dem candidates run. So all the Fentyphiles can just vote Republican. Wait, is there a republican running?

  • Fenty blew it. If he wasn’t corrupt, he had the smell of corruption. If he wasn’t indifferent to some, he had the air of indifference. If he wasn’t prone to self-inflicted wounds, he had the scars of a cutter.

    While I am happy that Gray seems not to have some of these traits, and I hope for the best, Gray’s call for all of us to “come together” last night rings hollow to me today when he spent the last six months talking about division and singling out “issues” like gentrification.

    It’s going to take a lot more than Gray saying he wants everyone to work together to make it happen. His divisive rhetoric will echo for a long time unless he does something about it.

  • I too, supported Fenty for all the reasons you listed above. Massive amounts of teachers fired? Great! Finally teachers are being held accountable for their actions. As a former DCPS teacher, I was given the advice to just “lay low, do what I want, and I’ll never get fired.” Congrats to Rhee and Fenty for finally realizing that attitude is NOT ok. And no, it wasn’t one teacher who told me that, it was all teachers in my school.

    Now I’m in Ed reform and working to eliminate crappy teachers.

  • 3 more, I mean 2 more comments and it’s 200

  • You know there was people in Wards 7 and 8 that supported Fenty right?

    Just watch and listen to that music video.

  • as a registered independent I’m in the same boat as many of y’all and find myself pretty depressed at these results. most of the commentary here deepens that depression as it seems to negatively answer the question: is there a common ground between these issues of class and race or are we confronted by demographic determinism: two irreconcilable visions of the city that cannot be bridged and will continue to be fought over and won based solely on population size. Fenty hasn’t been in any way extraordinary, but he did go about as far as possible in trying to address some of the quality of life issues that have dogged this city for decades, and surely didn’t deserve to lose a primary over management style?

  • How come no one is talking about Douglass Sloan losing to Eleanor Holmes Norton?

  • Okay, what about that race should we be talking about? Norton got more votes than anyone on the ballot. I don’t think this was necessarily an unexpected result (I think she usually does, as that office comes at the top of the ballot). Douglas Sloan can always run again in a term or two if people remain unhappy with Norton.

    I am impressed that voters were not confused by the Michael (D) Brown running against Mendelson. Mendelson got the second-highest percentage of votes of anyone running in a contested race.

  • Fenty deserved to lose. He lost by ~11k votes. He lost in huge numbers in Wards 4,5,7,8 (4 is his home). If he had only gotten 2,000 more voters to vote for him than Gray in 3 of those 4 Wards, he still would have lost those 4 Wards but he would have won.

    He put no effort into winning those areas. I voted for him, but he, much like Al Gore and John Kerry, deserved to lose because he sucked at campaigning.

    • The more I think about it, the more ridiculous this is… he could have just done minimal work in those 4 wards to court those residents and won the whole thing but still lost those wards with big margins… JUST MINIMAL work… a few rallies, more outreach, a few apologies and promises and it would have all been ok.

  • I voted for Fenty and am sorry he lost. Having said that, I’m not that stressed about the future because if you actually paid attention to what Gray said during his campaign, it was pretty clear that he has no plans to change what Fenty was doing, he just plans to do things differently. This election was not about programs, it was about personality. Read the post mortem in the WaPost. It was clear months ago that most people approved of the direction DC was moving in yet disapproved of Fenty personally. Fenty ignored the signs he was in trouble and Gray seized on the public mood and campaigned on inclusion, listening, conciliation, blah blah blah.
    Take school reform. Fenty and Rhee have done all the hard work already – fired teachers and administrative staff, gotten a new contract with the teachers’ union that promotes merit over seniority, and closed a bunch of unnecessary schools. Even if Gray ditches Rhee to make some of his supporters happy, he’s not going to backtrack on any of the things she did. He’s not going to rehire any teachers or administrators; he won’t reopen the teachers’ union contract; and he’s not going to reopen any schools. He’ll just promise to be “nicer” about these kinds of things going forward.
    The “bad cops” have already done the heavy lifting. The “good cop” gets to come in and take the credit.

    • It’d be nice if you were right, but Gray has, in fact, said he has a different WTU-approved strategy with regards to schools that will likely do away with using teacher standards to fire and promote. He has, in fact, said that he plans a massive training and employment plan for those in wards that “Fenty ignored”. Where are those jobs going to come from? The city and DCPS. So don’t count on Gray being a smiley Fenty, count on him being a less-crooked Barry who remembers those that elected him when it’s time to dole out the pork. The WTU, the unions, and all city job seekers — pretty soon a contract or two to Sinclair Skinner won’t be so noxious.

      • I hope you’re right. I hope he does have a WTU strategy to improve schools and keep good teachers working instead of firing them for no reason. I hope he can work with ALL the constituency groups involved in educating the children and not run things like a misguided dictator. I hope he does have a training and employment program for the neglected wards in this city. I hope so because these are the reasons I voted for Gray.

  • Good leaders look at what’s going wrong and fix it. While Fenty did that in a lot of ways, he couldn’t look at himself honestly and fix it. He was happy to fix things that didn’t bruise his ego, but as someone said before, all he had to do was just seem like he gave a sh*t to win – but he couldn’t do that. I’ve never been able to bring myself to vote for bad politicians. If you want to win elected office, you need to be good at all aspects of that job – and Fenty isn’t. Most politicians are arrogant pricks – that’s sort of a prerequisite for the job. But most successful politicians know how to hide it and not completely muck it up for themselves.

    As for Rhee… I’ll be sad to see her go. I like her and I like her reforms. BUT I’m bothered by the fact that she turned her ostensibly non-political position into a political one and got too involved with the city’s politics AND I’m bothered by her “I’m taking my toys and going home” attitude about this election. If she really cared about the city’s children and it’s schools, she wouldn’t just peace out before the job’s done.

    Last comment on the election, the sentiment that’s been going through my head all day has been If you voted for Mendelson, you are not allowed to be upset the next time a juvenile with a record commits a heinous crime in this city. I was/am a Ray supporter and honestly would rather have seen Michael D. win that seat than Mendelson.

  • Here here, Nichole! Mendelson is to DC public safety what George Bush was to New Orleans.

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