Dear PoP – How’s the Trinidad Neighborhood?

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“Dear PoP,

I appreciate you last time being able to help me with trying to find out more about the Hill East Area. Unfortunately things haven’t worked out as I planned, but I have found greener pastures in the Florida Avenue/ north of H street/ “Trolleytown” area. Would you be able to ask your readers what people think of that area in terms of safety, what the H street resurgence (street car, etc) will do that that Florida Avenue/ Trinidad area. Is it worth to look in that area for homes, or has this area not progressed as an anticipated? Pretty much what do areas who live in that area or close by think of that area right now. The more feedback the better.”

I said in a recent interview that I thought Trinidad will be a great long term investment (2015/2020). But what advice would folks who live in or nearby give about the neighborhood today?

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  • Nope. Not safe.

    • Nope. Not true.
      I’ve lived in Trinidad for 5 1/2 years, am an unimposing white male, and have never even been threatened.
      It’s not Georgetown, but it’s not scary either. House prices are back to 2004 levels and it’s a fantastic time to buy.
      I would try to buy where the housing around you is homes vs. apartment buildings. It will take the apartment buildings longer to improve than the streets with houses, IMHO.

    • Wrong. Columbia Heights has worst crime (robberies, burglaries, etc.) in the city, but people FEEL safe, so they think it IS safe.

  • to the question writer—are you looking north of florida avenue (in trinidad) or south of florida avenue (in near northeast)? it isn’t clear from your question.

    regardless of which of those you are looking in, i’d say you’re looking in a good place. i live in trinidad and have been very happy with the choice i made to buy there last year. i would say that houses in near northeast are overpriced compared to trinidad. just by crossing north of florida avenue, i’ve seen that prices are much lower for just as much house. you’re still within a couple blocks of h street and all that is coming along there no matter which of the two neighborhoods you are in.

    if ward leadership is important to you, living in near northeast is a plus. tommy wells and ANCs 6A and 6C are fantastic. who knows who will be the ward representative for ward 5 next year, and ANC 5B isn’t the citizen-oriented powerhouse that the ward 6 ANCs are.

    as far as safety, it’s all a matter of perception. the typical statements apply (you’re living in the city, crime happens everywhere, etc.), but there are blocks that are better than others. the southern and western corner of trinidad sees much less crime than the northern half of the neighborhood. much of the crime in the neighborhood (if you read the daily police reports—which i do) is drug related. the shootings of a couple years ago were an isolated flare-up, and have not returned. basically, if you’re not out there causing trouble, you’re not likely to get into trouble in the neighborhood.

    all told, i’ve found the neighborhood to be extremely friendly and welcoming. i can walk up and down the streets to many porches of both young and elderly neighbors, enjoy a conversation or a drink with them, and feel like i’ve been there forever. like anywhere else in town, there are lots of fun people if you open up and say hello. too many people in DC are unwilling to step outside of their small comfort zones, i believe, and miss out on making great new acquaintances.

    anyway, i’ll comment more if i see something worth replying to…

    • I’ve heard through the grapevine that most of the violence in Trinidad was one group of people who are no longer located in Trinidad. There is likely to be some poverty related crime though. Springarn HS has a 17% passing rate on DC CAS which speaks volumes about the needs of the neighborhood.

      I don’t really like Tommy Wells. I think he gets credit for a lot of things that make his ward nice that he either doesn’t support or didn’t directly fund or fight for. He folded like a suit when Gray tried to kill streetcars. Frozen Tropics (local blog) loves him, but I think they’re misguided. He didn’t lift a finger to answer any of my questions when I was dealing with DDOT and I consider “responding to emails” to be the most basic of constituent services. He’s got some oversite of youth crime and you know how much a disaster that is in DC. He’s a former social services worker in the mold of Mendolson.

      • interesting fact—half of trinidad is in springarn’s district, but in the western half, students attend dunbar, even though it’s much farther from the neighborhood.

      • Ragged Dog,
        I generally do like Tommy Wells, but I live in Ward 5, not Ward 6. This means that almost all of my interaction with/exposure to him revolves around big stuff on H Street, not around smaller constituent services. I have no basis for comment on that aspect of his connection with residents of Ward 6 other than what I hear from people I know.

      • But, I definitely don’t agree that Wells “folded like a suit” during the streetcar budget fiasco.

        • Agreed. In fact he pretty much did the opposite.

          Tommy and I don’t always see eye-to-eye, policy-wise (bag fee is dumb – CA’s approach is what we should have done and I’m a driver who loves my car and loves to drive, so some of his livable/walkable stuff isn’t so much my cup of tea) but for the most part, he’s great for Ward 6. And no way can you say he folded on streetcars. It’s simply not true.

          • I didn’t see him even trying….other than telling people to call the city Council. I expect him to get out on the airwaves and to be on TV, radio, whatever denouncing Gray and that stupid decision. This is HIS WARD getting the shaft. His commercial district getting screwed over because of a tiff between Gray and Fenty. His constituents getting the shaft and I didn’t hear anything from him or his staff except a limp public statement.

            Part of the problem is his acquiescence to this, “go along and get along” City Council that doesn’t publicly challenge one another. I don’t agree with it.

          • What tv or radio station? Did you see much about this on tv or radio that day, during the day, while the streetcars were up in the air? Didn’t happen. He can’t just call up a tv station and demand air time…

            I know for a fact that his office personally reached out to bloggers, and he tweeted his opposition to Gray’s position.

            Also, from what I know anecdotally, Ward 6 is leaning toward Gray. Gray yard signs outnumber Fenty ones and the Ward 6 Dems are throwing their support behind Gray. Not to mention the CHRS folks and their ilk are against overhead wires and wouldn’t mind streetcars being tabled. So the fact that he came out as vocally as he did against Gray is actually not necessarily a safe move politically.

            Again, I’m not a huge Tommy cheerleader, but on this point he should be defended.

          • I’m not Tommy’s #1 Fan every day, but on that day he did great. Only 2 of 13 Councilmembers had the spine to vote “No” on the budget that cut $47 million in streetcar money until the Council got a better planning document from DDOT. Tommy and one other Councilmember held the bridge while a bunch of streetcar proponent citizens won the day with an onslaught of phone calls and other contacts to Chairman Gray’s office.

            Courageous for Tommy.

          • Again, I didn’t even hear him quoted in the print media other than his limp press release.

            I don’t give him credit for being “courageous” for voting against cutting the funding just because Gray has more yard signs. It’s his job to vote against the cuts. Courage is slamming the decision as misguided and stupid in more forceful language than he did. I also don’t see any evidence that he orchestrated any of the outrage against Gray that occurred that day. It’s easy to take credit for something after the fact, but there’s no indication of it happening that way. He didn’t stand up to power, he kind of pussy footed around something as if it was an “ah shucks” moment.

            Re Gray: It’s amazing that any homeowner or business owner around H St would even consider voting for Gray after that BS. It’s also amazing that any homeowner or property owner in DC would vote for him given that he’s willing to sell out and derail economic development that this city so desperately needs.

          • Again, you’re wrong. You may not have seen it, but it happened. He and his office absolutely had a hand in orchestrating the community outrage. Not sure where you were looking that you didn’t see it, and maybe you’re not involved with the local groups that his office reached out to (early and often that day) but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’m telling you this as someone who spent that day working with groups/blogs that his office contacted.

  • The problem is surviving the short term.

    Those that live most of their D.C. life during daylight hours will fare better.

  • saf

    Good info on Trinidad from a neighborhood perspective

  • Can’t comment on the neighborhood but will comment on the urban grind in general… how is it compared to where you live now? Relativity is extremely important. How does it compare with what you want it to become? Like everything, the promise of improvement will always take longer than you project. I’ve lived in CH since ’03, while many things have changed for the better, much of the same problems still exist. I live on a great block, know many of my neighbors and enjoy it… someone I know looking to move to DC recently asked me about Trinidad… I said spend time there and even consider renting for a year…once you buy, you should be ready to commit 7-10 yrs, unless you don’t care about your money, as the transaction costs are extremely prohibitive. The worst case is you have adequate price appreciation and are able to relocate in 4-6 without losing money or the rental market is strong (as in CH now). Happy hunting!

    • Mud, why 7-10 yrs? My feeling is that when the H St renovations are over in 3 years, there will be a rush to buy in Trinidad as the last affordable nearby neighborhood, and prices will jump then. What leads you to the longer timeframe?

      • I read Mud’s 7-10 years as the timeframe in which, as a resident, you’ll start to really see noticeable change from development, etc.. Housing prices might jump well before then, but actual living conditions may not.

        Generally, my advice to people who ask these sorts of questions is that they should buy in a neighborhood where they feel comfortable as it is now, not a neighborhood they can tolerate until it develops to something else down the road. You may make money by getting ahead of the housing market, but if you’re going to live in that house, you better make sure you’re also happy calling it home. I think a LOT of people get in trouble by moving into a place and projecting something different in 305 years that never materializes.

      • While 3 years may certainly be a plausible, I was suggesting a 7-10 year horizon, mentally. If things turn out better than expected then you have mobility. If you go into it with a 3 year timeline and it ends up being 6, you will likely feel trapped. The transaction costs alone will cost you 8%, so you will need several years of appreciation just to break even on purchase price. If you are renovating, the timeline is even longer… speaking from experience, things often take longer than you plan, and there are greater forces that drive housing prices…interest rates, housing demand, job & income growth. We are currently at record low interest rates… if rates climb 1 or 2 percent, prices will fall accordingly. Obviously, there is no certainty in the matter, I’m just suggesting to prepare for the long haul and you’ll have less buyers remorse. Do you want to be in the neighborhood in the event that things don’t change dramatically in 3,4,5 years? Will you be able to rent and cover the carrying costs of your investment? A house is a place to live, but if you no longer want to live in it, it becomes an investment. Do the numbers work?

  • We looked for real estate in this area in 2008 when planning an exodus, with child, from overpriced Adams Morgan. It is convenient if you work near Union Station/Cap Hill north. Was pleasantly surprised by nice architecture and signs of renovation/gentrification but not pleased by the appearance of some of the neighbors, i.e. shifty drug dealers, groups of guys out at 9 a.m. drinking out of a paperbag on the stoop/corner. Same problems as Hill far east, but without the teeny tiny houses. At that time I was not impressed with the anemic signs of life on a two block stretch of H St. – but now, of course, I can’t visit without yet another new restaurant/fun place opening. Wish Petworth’s commercial district was rolling along at the same clip.
    I’d say Trinidad still has a long way to go but it is a very small neighborhood and if the turnaround comes it may be too late to get in. One thing about safety, you get the impression that if you don’t live there and aren’t visiting a friend there’s really no reason to be walking through. So that could work in good ways or bad.

    • lordscarlet

      There are also a ton of cross-city buss options. The X1, X2, X3, 90, 92, and 93 are great ways to get to downtown, U Street, Chinatown and Adams Morgan

      • don’t forget the D1, D3, D4, and D8 to get to points downtown, and the B2 will get you north and south if you’re on the east side of the neighborhood.

    • um: ok, that’s something that happened two years ago and has been deemed unconstitutional. do you have anything constructive to add?

    • And since then, there’s been very little in the way of homicides. It’s like night and day.

  • you should not move to a given neighborhood if the police have to concertedly violate the U.S. Constitution to keep your would-be neighbors from shooting each other en masse.

    • Agreed, but the problem is gone now.

    • except it wasn’t your would-be neighbors…it was people from outside the neighborhood (from kenilworth/parkside, if the police are correct).

      • Given the dynamics of DC youth drug and gun violence I would rather answer the safety-related aspects of this post once DC’s warm weather is over, not as it is just beginning.

        And I just don’t believe we can say, “that was so 2008” about the levels of violence in a neighborhood.

        • Except that what happened that summer was really not anywhere near normal for the area. It felt like an episode from the Twilight Zone. Seriously, pull up old crime stats to see it for yourself.

          • But was it ever really that great?

            There’s this old City Paper article about crime in Trinidad.


            When was Trinidad a great neighborhood?

          • this is for andy directly below (since apparently his comment cannot be replied to:

            defining a “great neighborhood” is a pretty nebulous thing. i’m assuming you’re defining it as a place with no-to-very-low crime, lots of places to shop, eat, cultural activities, etc.

            by that definition, it’s hard to say when or if the neighborhood has been “great.”

            i’d say it’s a solid middle-class enclave, that has had many of the same inner-city problems that have plagued neighborhoods all around DC, and has come out of that period poised to be an aspired-to location going forward (how’s that for spin?).

  • I’ve lived on the southern boarder of Trinidad since 2003 (prior to that I lived 1.5 blocks away in Ward 6 for about a year and a half). I really like where I live, and there are currently lots of great deals to be had in Trinidad. One of my favorite things about where I live would be the neighbors. People are overwhelmingly friendly, and will help you out when you need it. Of course, there are some bad apples, but they are the minority. I think people are often surprised at the diversity (education, income, race, and background) of the people who live around here. I get all the benefits of a tightly knit residential neighborhood, and all the benefits of living near a lively commercial strip (H Street). I can walk to a restaurant/bar/coffee shop/art gallery/movie/dance studio/live theater/farmers market/grocery store. I can get a sandwich from Taylor delivered until 3am on the weekends.

  • i can’t help on details of living in the area, but if i was looking to buy a place this year, Trinidad and the H street corridor would be at the top of my list.

  • We moved into the southern edge of Trinidad two years ago and love it. That first summer was pretty crazy (although we never really felt we were in danger) but things have quieted down considerably since then. We have seen a ton of new people move here recently and the long time neighbors are really friendly. The X2 sucks but the D4 gets me downtown in 10-15 minutes and it only takes me 15 minutes to get to Arlington on the rare occasions I drive to work. I’m a 5 minute walk from Granville’s, The Pug and about 10 other great places so I rarely need to leave the neighborhood to go out anymore.

    IMGoph is right about the perception that north of Florida is much worse crime wise. A lot of the carjackings and muggings from a few months ago actually took place south of H Street where houses are going for $500-$600K. We have crime, but it isn’t as bad as a lot of people think. Come check out the area at different times of day and just see if you personally feel comfortable here.

  • this isn’t directly on point, but we recently bought a place in near northeast. haven’t moved in yet, but were pleasantly surprised by how nice the neighborhood seemed when were walking around and looking at houses. people seemed friendly and we’re looking forward to joining the neighborhood!

  • I’d stick to below Florida and above H Street. Prices are slightly higher, but the streets are 1000x cleaner.

    Remember gentrification moves from west to east in DC. Some of the best opportunities are over by NY Ave Metro / NoMa.

    • Except for the hookers. There’s a lot of B&E between H and Florida right now on the police list serve.

      • Maybe I read the wrong listserves, but I have not seen one arrest for prostitution in Near Northeast.

        • You’re right, they haven’t arrested the hookers (the B&E’s are on the list serve) . You have to walk the neighborhood to see them. I’ve run into them walking the dog.

    • street cleanliness seems to be a block-to-block thing in these neighborhoods as well.

      i live on oates. it’s very clean (because we have many conscientious neighbors who keep up on that kind of thing). go 4 blocks north, and it’s definitely not the same.

      south of florida, it seems that garbage gets worse the closer you get to H street. i’d wager that’s because the neighborhood attracts a lot of people who don’t live in the area and really don’t care if their garbage ends up in someone’s front yard.

  • I recently purchased a house and I decided on the extremely northwestern part of Eckington.

    I looked in Eckington, Bloomingdale, Ledroit Park, all variations of capitol hill (hill east, near north east, real cap hill), petworth, columbia heights, 16th Street/Brightwood and yes Trinidad.

    I think I wrote when you asked about Hill East, and my answer is the same this time around.

    You have various needs when looking to buy: location, price, features of the house, public transit, architecture, amenities of neighborhood, and safety.

    Only you can decide which of these you want to compromise on and which you insist of meeting your expectations.

    Personally, I picked proximity to public transit, architecture, features of house, *relative* safety, and price.

    Now, Trinidad is the neighborhood I liked absolutely the least. Over a several month period, I looked at literally hundreds and hundreds of listings – several dozens in Trinidad. These homes routinely ranked at the bottom of most of my spectra of location, price, features of the house, public transit, architecture, amenities of neighborhood, and safety. The one exception here is price vs proximity in distance to H Street, Downtown, Cap Hill, etc – but I found, for my needs (social and work) that it was relatively isolated. However, the prices are unbelievably low – so low that i knew I could pay a bit more and find a lot more.

    Thats me, not necessarily everyone. For instance, I know PoP and imgoph really like this neighborhood.

    To me, I dont see the investment upside to the neighborhood. It has a fantastic location (or most of trinidad does, at least). However, the housing stock is really unattractive compared to other transitional areas. Though, if I had found my house at my price in any of my target neighborhoods, I would have jumped at it. It just so happened that I found exactly what i was looking for in eckington – a house like mine just didnt exist in Trinidad, but it does in many other neighborhoods.

  • Look at the plans for the Florida Ave Market. It will have a big impact on this area if it every gets off the ground. However, it’s hard to get worked up when the plans are so uncertain.

    • many of us in the neighborhood are quite opposed to the choi plans for the florida avenue market.

      the area could use a cleaning up and better site management, and there is room in the empty lots on florida avenue for some new construction and growth, but the light-industrial nature of the market itself is something we actually need to try to keep in the city. this market exists because it’s predecessor downtown (in the federal triangle) was killed off by the feds a century ago. a functioning city needs a functioning wholesale market

    • Ignore IMgoph. Most neighbors are pro-development of Florida Market.

      • near northeast: which neighborhood are you talking about? i’m assuming near northeast from your moniker. i’m talking about trinidad since that’s where i live—i wouldn’t presume to talk about your neighborhood.

        i do believe that the ANC commissioner for the area directly across the street from the florida avenue market is not in favor of destroying the essential nature of the market as well. she understands the need for a wholesale market within the city.

        please note, also, that i never said i was “anti-development,” which your comment attempts to paint me as. i said i was opposed to the choi plan, which was strongly backed by former councilmember vincent orange, and backed (less strongly, i’d say) by harry thomas. i said “there is room in the empty lots of florida avenue for some new construction and growth,” and i strongly believe that those areas should be developed first. a gradual process for changing such a large area would suit it well—and better than a wholesale makeover of the market that would push current wholesalers out.

        finally, your “ignore IMgoph” comment is stupid, frankly. clearly we disagree on the essential nature of what can and should change at the florida avenue market, and there’s nothing wrong with presenting competing ideas in a manner that fosters debate, instead of something childish like that. it doesn’t add anything to discussion, and i would hope others reading this are open-minded enough to at least hear what i have to say instead of just “ignoring” me like you advocate. if you plan a rebuttal, i hope you have something more thoughtful to say than straight insults.

  • I have lived in the southern half of Trinidad for five years. I think that Myview’s argument about architecture applies more to the northern half of Trinidad rather than the southern half. The houses on Florida are Victorians for the most part, are decently sized and on good sized lots. The neighbors are a decent bunch and are pretty involved.

    There have been some break-ins but the area is definitely changing for the better. I can walk to the H Street bars in five minutes and have to worry about driving. In three years, I will be able to hop on a trolley and get to Union Station quickly.

  • I live a block south of Florida (trinidad border). I haven’t had any problems that you wouldn’t get in most of the neighborhoods this blog covers. No break ins, no muggings, no shootings, no real threats. We had a couple unfortunate rock-throwing incidents, but other than that we’re fine. Neighbors are really nice. Trinidad is very similar–except I think a little more block-by-block than our section.

    I find it kind of funny that people think that the bankability of this area is still really debateable. The chips are down and the whole area is on the FAST upswing. In most cases, the good deals have already been gotten, and unless you want to do a serious serious renovation, you’re gonna be paying pretty good money.

    Drawback to our neighborhood is the distance to Metro. That’s why we are so excited about the streetcar and were outraged at the Vince Gray money grab.

    Trinidad is fine–don’t let scared-of-their-shadow yuppies who have only ever read Washington Post hyperventilations on the neighborhood convince you that you couldn’t have a great life with great neighbors in Trinidad. Or for that matter any neighborhood in our city.

  • I live in Trinidad and am extremely happy this is where I purchased my home. I have lived around the DC area, including Columbia Heights, as well as in other places in the country. This neighborhood is by far my favorite. I know most of the neighbors on my block and actually consider many of them friends. These are the kind of people who call to see if you roof leaked during an extra hard rain. Where else do you have that?

    I have a large yard, which I couldn’t have afforded anywhere else in the city, off street parking, a house is good shape…and a great community. I can walk to the metro or take a bus downtown (I did both just today), walk to H St shops yet leave the late night noise behind, and enjoy walks around the neighborhood while stopping here and there to chat with other neighbors sitting on their porches.

    I’d say buy in Trinidad not because it is a “good investment” but because you want to live here.

    anyone interested in learning more about the neighborhood, getting a tour of what areas are “better” and which I’d still avoid if you are at all hesitant, I am more than willing to show you around. contact me directly at ridleybays at

  • i miss trinidad!

    i lived there for a spell two years ago, yes right during the crazy shootings and road blocks.

    i tell ya though, the hood has character, there are hard working regular folks there and even the drug slingers were nice!

    it’s all about how you approach where you want to live.

    if i ever desired to cave and actually purchase a home i would look in far NE there in trinidad…and it does seem that now is a good time to buy!

  • I think the truth about the neighborhood lies somewhere between the two extremes being presented here. No, it’s not the crime-ridden hellhole that some are saying it is. But yes, there are problem spots in a neighborhood that isn’t exactly all that large. For example, someone was stabbed to death on Monday night in Trinidad:

    But I guess you could say that a lot of neighborhoods in the city are stuck in a gray area between good and bad.

    • Yes, someone was stabbed but look where it happened (Northern tip of Trinidad). Everyone on this post has said that it gets worse the more North you go. The stabbing does not represent Trinidad. My wife and I just bought a place in Trinidad near Florida and when we did our search we didn’t look any more North than Owens.

    • Yeah, there was a stabbing, but it was the first murder in Trinidad in almost two years. How exactly us that characteristic?

      • I didn’t say it was “characteristic.” I merely said it happened.

        And Nicko, you pretty much prove my point by saying you didn’t look any more north than Owen, and that the neighborhood gets worse the further north you go. So you’re saying that you ruled out almost a full half of a rather small neighborhood? Why is that?

        I know people like to cheerlead for their neighborhood. That’s fine. But to deny its negative aspects, as many Trinidad defenders are doing here, is to present an incomplete picture. Not sure that’s what the OP was asking for.

        • everything south of owen is still more than a thousand homes. that’s not tiny.

          (personally, i don’t think that drawing a line through the middle of the neighborhood is either helpful or instructive. there are a couple places close to florida that i would consider less safe than places up near mt. olivet road.)

          • The main reason for looking at Owen and below was the walkability to H and if I have to, to NY metro, and also K St for the bus. But ya, before buying in Trinidad people that I know who live there did mention not to go too far North because its not as nice (you can’t deny that). It wasn’t ruled out on the house search though, it was our personal choice for what we saw and wanted to draw the line at Owen and East to Orren/Trinidad Ave. Not because we thought, “Big Bad Trinidad”. So to the person posing the question: Move to Trinidad, it will be a good choice.

          • nicko: absolutely, the walkability to H street factor was way, way, way up there for us as well.

            we ended up having to decide on a house near trinidad and florida, and the one we ultimately got near oates and montello. the ability to walk just over a block and be on H street nearly swung us to the trinidad avenue house, to be sure. it was a tough decision to give up that location (when real estate is ultimately location, location, location).

  • We have lived in the southeastern tip of Trinidad for three years. The neighborhood certainly has some blocks that are safer than others. The summer of 2008 was crazy but has been COMPLETELY unrepresentative of our experiences as a whole. Our neighbors watch out for each other. Many are long-time residents who have welcomed us with open arms. We regularly play in the front yard with our son and constantly have strangers striking up conversations. People are almost overwhelmingly friendly. Overall, we love our home, our location, and the possibility of even greater things to come on H Street. As an aside, the only people I know who have experienced violent crimes (primarily hold-ups at gunpoint and carjackings) have been in “nice” neighborhoods on Capitol Hill. Living in the city does carry some risk no matter where you live.

  • My wife and I got the keys to our place on Florida last week. We first started our search by RFK, Rosedale, and Kingman Park neighborhoods, Trinidad wasn’t really on our radar but we thought of it in passing. The prior mentioned hoods didn’t work out so we looked in Bloomingdale (low inventory and high prices), and Eckington (few neighborhood amenities). Trinidad became the obvious choice: great location to get in and out of the city to MD and VA; 5 min walk to resto/bar on H; fairly quiet; nice houses (yes some need more work than others); prices are amazing (no other place in DC can touch these prices and for how much home you get and the location). We were doing some painting the other day and said “Glad we didn’t get the houses we put offers on in [above mentioned hoods]”. If we could have found a place in Bloomingdale we would have been happy though

  • I think most of the comments are pretty fair, but I wonder to what extent owners are a bit biased simply due to their investment in the area.

    • ed: it’s a good point. i’m inclined to defend the neighborhood partially out of a sense of “this is my home now,” but also out of a need to counter simplistic ignorance like the first comment on this thread.

      don’t get me wrong—trinidad isn’t some kind of valhalla where the streets are paved with gold, but it has a lot more in common with places like bloomingdale and eckington (where a lot of this site’s readership lives) than people realize. it’s not beirut in the ’80s.

      • I agree with IMGoph about wanting to “counter simplistic ignorance”. You can be certain that any level of violence in Trinidad will be covered in the Post and on TV while other areas are ignored. It’s like a reputation needs to be supported. You certainly do need to make smart choices (don’t hang out outside at 3AM, know your surroundings, etc.) but nothing other than the regular precautions people take in any city setting.

        On another note, for those of you considering long-term homes: Our friends thought we were crazy when we moved here three years ago. They all bought condos or small homes in “safer” neighborhoods. We all spent the same amount of money, but most of them are now having to move again because their money bought one or two bedrooms (which don’t work terribly well for their expanding families) and we have four plus a full basement. They are having trouble finding anything affordable and large in their areas and are now asking about Trinidad. I guess the two block walk to H Street doesn’t seem like such a downside anymore.

        • So true I am a single black woman who bought in Trinidad 9 years ago right on Montello between Penn and Owen Place. I have a 3 bedroom plus a separate upstairs office, full basement with small garage and driveway for 2 cars. Plenty space that I needed when my family grew. There are definitely things about Trinidad that I dislike but I damn sure do not fit into the broad stroke of dysfunction that the media always uses for the Trinidad area. I cant stand that these stereotypes still exist because the same things that go on in this neighborhood goes on in other more expensive neighborhoods. There are plenty people here who work and go about their daily lives without getting shot or pulled over by the police. We all live in the city and should take the appropriate precautions no matter what area you are in.

  • Independent of where someone is looking, be advised that the mortgage interest deduction is in the crosshairs:


    If the deduction is axed it will put downward pressure on already depressed prices.

    The positive side is it will be a buying opportunity for those with capital to invest.

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