More Shoveling Opportunities Tomorrow (Sunday) – Bus Stops

thanks 5am snowplow, i guess
Photo from PoPville flickr user hellomarkers!

Thanks to all for sending word of Greater Greater Washington’s initiative. They write:

“Greater Greater Washington is organizing community shovel brigades to clear out bus stops tomorrow (Sunday). Right now there are meet-ups organized for Dupont (Q Street Metro entrance) and Columbia Heights (Metro entrance by Five Guys) at 3:00 PM Sunday.

Please help spread the word – there are way too many dangerous bus stops out there!”

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  • Whose responsibility is it to clear the point where the sidewalk meets the crosswalk? Is it ok for DC govt to pay contractors to pile impassable mounds at those points around the city, once again making space for cars and putting pedestrians at risk? I know it’s tough on Fenty’s and Catoe’s teams, but when I see entire blocks where residents have cleared the walkway to the street, but DDOTs new plow mounds block the way, I wonder about what should be done. These snow shovel brigades just might be the answer in the absence of city govt solutions.

    • its the responsibility of the neighboring homeowner or tenant, and yes it is annoying. as soon as you get it shoveled, the street undoubtedly gets plowed and you have to tackle the mound of dirty ice and snow. it sucks, but what can you do? at least you are healthy enough to do it.

      • As a corner-dweller, I can tell you it’s the resident’s/business owner’s responsibility. But, after the 4th or 5th time shoveling it, only to have the plows come and push snow into it, it’s more than a little frustrating. Until the plowing is finished, there’s just no point. There’s being a responsible neighbor and then there’s being expected to be Sisyphus. As my friend from Northwestern Ohio said, “It snowed, don’t bitch about having to walk on… snow.” People can only do so much.

  • I think it’s sad that we have to donate our time to do perform a vital service that should be taken care of by a public agency. I will volunteer my time… but I think it serves as a sad commentary on the state of our city.

    • We can either donate our time in a direct way with shovels, or in an indirect way, by donating more of our income – which is generated by giving up our time – to pay city workers. Not a lot of other options except for slavery.

      I’m also going to suggest that everyone bring along a few heavy duty garbage bags and help clear the overflowing trash cans.

    • I think your statement is a sad commentary on the unrealistic expectations and lack of civic understanding that more and more PoPville residents seem to possess.

      The state of our city is that it was recently slammed with a 100-year snow storm. The annual budget does not accommodate such a cleanup effort and we would be crying foul during the other 99 years if it did so at the expense of other much-needed services. Even if the city did have the extra cash on hand for such a herculean effort, it would be accused of bloat and inefficiency for keeping such a massive fleet of snow clearing equipment at the ready.

      A functional community is one that works together to perform necessary tasks for the greater good and to develop standards by which its members must live. Government is not an almighty entity that provides every service and convenience imaginable so that one may glide through life without giving a thought to one’s neighbors. It is an organization made up of community representatives and leaders that defines societal rules and pools resources to accomplish goals that citizens cannot accomplish individually.

      When an event universally affects a government’s constituents, then each an every citizen is responsible for dealing with a certain percent of the aftermath. That is what it means to be “by the people.” As victoria says, you can pay your share in taxes (which will have to be assessed retroactively in this case), or you can pick up a shovel and contribute a bit of time and energy to the community of which you are a member.

      Either way, that our bus stops are full of snow and a civic-minded organization is spearheading an effort to bring some semblance of normalcy to the public transportation system is not a sad commentary on the state of our city. It is an indication that members of our community care enough about or city to adopt an attitude other than, “what have you done for me lately?”

  • Don’t you see the city workers out there plowing and shoveling, CoHi? I see plows, shoveling crews and heavy equipment working, and the city has already used up all funding for it (funding allocated based on historical needs) but this is the biggest snowfall in history. I’d be surprised if any jurisdiction has served its populace fully – really, how can it be done – there is no precident. I shovelled my walk, the elderly neighbor’s walk, and a bunch of us shovelled our alley. What more can be done without another $100 million?

    • A few spots here and there a snow-free bus shelter City does not make. The City should have contingency planned for this. A fleet of dump trucks are hired and snow is removed. If we all end up having taxes raised modestly (say .25% sales tax or higher Metro for something) down the road to pay for it, then that’s the cost. I would be happy to pay. Just don’t tell me it’s my civic duty to shovel out Metrobus stops!

  • You know how many people it takes to perfectly remove a big snowfall from a large city?

    About 600,000 evenly distributed through town.

    Coincidentally, the citizens of DC are just such a force.

  • It took me 3 1/2 hours to shovel the snow off and from around my vehicle on last Sunday and on Thursday all by myself. Each time, I had to take a bath and soak in the bathtub. I got the S4 at 16th & Kennedy Streets, NW on yesterday and on today and the Metro stops are covered with mountains of snow and ice. It’s dangerous to stand in the street to wait for the Metro bus.

    I am sorry, I don’t have the energy or time to volunteer to help shovel snow in front of Metro stops. The liberal 13 idiots sitting on the Council of the District of Columbia are taxing us to death. We are the Nations Capital and President Obama and Congress should give our city all the resources it needs to address this type of storm. I am a native Washingtonian and not a transplant passing thru.

  • Is anyone going to clear out Mt. P and HOBART??? Who owns this property??? They have note cleared the sidewalks for ANY of our snowstorms… 1601 and 1602 HOBART (Mt. P intersection).

  • What about on Kenyon St between 13th and 14th? This is a high traffic area, but the majority of the sidewalk (in front of resident dwellings) is not shoveled. Does anyone know who I should report this to? Is the DC govt really ticketing for unshoveled sidewalks? It’s very unsafe and it’s been more than enough time for these residents to shovel since the last snowfall.

    • I could pretty much guarantee you that DC has NEVER issued a ticket, and even if they did, the fine is only $25. The reality is the law we have on the books basically does not exist because there’s no enforcement – it only provides a basis for slip-and-fall lawsuits.

  • Last year i slipped & fell on land not properly cleared. Couldn’t turn my head/neck for a month, unable to bear any weight in my right arm for months, and hobbling with a heavy limp from whatever the impact did to my hip.

    As much as i would bet the farm that a citation has never been issued (much less the $$ used to abate the problem), i’d suggest calling 311 for every address that hasn’t done anything,

    it’s been 8 days since the first snowfall?

  • This is absolutely NOT aimed at you DB, as slipping and falling sucks, but more aimed at the general public (I posted a similar comment over at The Hill is Home).

    I was out on the Hill last night (and downtown the night before, and Old Town the night before that) and I was a little surprised to see so many women in boots and shoes WITH HEELS. The walks were certainly clear enough (although probably not to the standards of the contingent of DC whiners who think every walk’s entire width should be completely free of snow within 15 minutes of the last flake falling) but, as there has been a lot of melting and refreezing, there was a lot of black ice (or brick ice?) out there, not to mention slush to get on and off the sidewalks.

    A lot of places that normally offer valet weren’t doing so, so these women weren’t just pulling up to walk a few steps (inside wood floors were also slick with melting slush).

    Other than the issue of them being willing to ruin a pair of boots – obviously that’s their choice – what I really hope is that if any of them slip and fall because of their own stupid choices, business owners and home owners don’t have to suffer for their fashion choices ie w/ legal fees etc. to fight a slip and fall suit.

    I like cute shoes as much as the next girl, but if you’re out in inappropriate footwear, I think you lose your right to bitch about inhospitable conditions.

  • I’m going to take a stab at some of the 64 stops near Grant Circle unless some of you Petworthy neighbors beat me to it. P.S. WTF is wrong with the Petworth United Methodist Church? Are they TRYING to get pedestrians killed at the corner of New Hampshire and Grant Circle or is it just a dysfunctional church?

  • Whoever cleared the S2/4 stop at 16th and Lamont: you are my hero and I love you. THANKS!!!!!

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