MPD Chief Cathy Lanier To Attend ANC4D Meeting Tonight

From an email:

MPD Chief Cathy Lanier has committed to attend ANC 4D’s March public meeting TONIGHT. She’ll be joined by 4th District Commander Linda Gilmore-Brown and PSA 403 Lt. Kervin Johnson.

Come out and hear how MPD plans to HELP keep our community safe during the always busy and sometimes chaotic spring and summer months. It’s just as much our job as theirs, though. Make sure to come out tonight to lend your support, ask some questions and even offer advice.

See you all tonight at 7:00 p.m. at Truesdell Elementary, 800 Ingraham Street, N.W.


Robert L. Whiddon
ANC 4D03

17 Comment

  • I look forward to lengthy speeches about how crime is not actually a problem and how, in DC, criminals have a right to commit crimes and we must not infringe on their rights to do so. Ransom Perry is our shining beacon, and his brethren walk among us even now.

  • Last night I went to the NWCH meeting where Chief Lanier was there along with judges, state attorneys, etc. I can’t go to this one tonight, but please don’t let them get away with the standard PR answers. Hold them to the fire. I was too tired last night to get fired up about it, but last nights meeting was just more of the same….

  • Pennywise,
    I just got back from Alabama. I brought me a very lightweight and compact 40cal back. It’s what all the criminals are using these days as it packs a punch with very little kick. All you can do is arm yourself. Witness the DC MPD officer that saved his life and killed the perp in one breath. I’ll take my chance that I will be killed with my own gun as opposed to being killed by the killers.

    I would love to hear Offcier Lanier speak truthly about the crime in the inner cities. She won’t. So is there really any need in attending? You can just rewind the last chief’s speeches and I am sure they will be almost identical. Just goes to show you that trying the same thing over and over often does not solve the problem.

  • Careful with the gun fetish there Nate. If you find yourself massaging it you have become the problem.

  • Wow, just as much our job as it is theirs? Wrong. It behooves every citizen to try to make the area better, but it is very much MPD’s responsibility for keeping everyone safe. It is 100% their job, and it is foolish to say otherwise.

    And it is a good idea to get to the meeting and speak up, even if it’s less that appealing to spend part of your evening listening to the inarticulate Chief of Police fumble over her words and lie to the public.

  • Again I’ll state my reservation on these meetings: at some point the crowd is photographed and the photo posted somewhere on with a caption like “MPD (or Mendelson or whatever) engages community residents to end crime in our time.” Thus, the total policy impact of these meetings are to produce propaganda. As long as we are hosting meetings to try to convince our elected officials that violent people should be locked up, we are in dire straights indeed. Cite Ransom Perry.

    In sum, it might be better for no one to go, in which case maybe Fenty will be told “we might not get elected and your hoped-for ambassadorship is in jeopardy.”

  • I agree with what has been said, even with Nate’s commentary on guns.

    We have an obviously serious problem here in Washington, DC with crime. Criminals act without much fear of reprisal. The police blame the prosecutors, the prosecutors blame the judges, the judges hole themselves up, usually in homes located outside the city, and refuse any semblance of accountability.

    I agree that all individuals, criminals and certainly others, have some basic. The most basic of those rights are “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” I believe that these three most basic rights simply do not exist in full in this city and this is an issue for which Mayor Fenty must be held accountable. That these rights are so dramatically infringed upon represents an absolute failure on the part of our government and cannot and must not be accepted by the citizenry. In 2007, the murder rate in Washington, DC was 30.8, more than 5 times the national average. So, in 2007, 181 people, were denied the most basic right to simply exist.

    How about liberty? How many of us think twice, maybe even three or four times, before we venture out at night? How many of us carry pepper spray on our keychain or in our purse? How many of us clutch our keys in our pocket as we walk home at night from the metro? If so, then each of us has had our basic right to liberty infringed upon as we feel trapped or imprisoned by the circumstances created by the crime in this city. Jim Graham, lawyers and the like are worried about infringing on people’s “freedom to assemble,” (arguably a liberty right) but they fail to realize that their inaction limits the liberties of the rest of us. Like the 192 people who were raped in 2007 or the 3,686 people who were assaulted or the 33,169 people who had something that belonged to them taken.

    I believe that this city is suffering from abject laziness on the part of our city officials. While there are some great ones out there, many simply do not care and simply do not try. We have all seen police officers turn a blind eye to crime in the city. This morning I was almost hit by a driver who made a left hand turn after the light had turned red. One of DC’s finest witnessed the situation and did nothing about it. More traffic stops might not make DC’s homicide rate drop, but it is scary how little those paid and charged to protect actually care about our safety. Some might argue that this officer is just saving himself to fight DC’s real battle. Perhaps that’s the case, but I have anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Some months ago my wife and I heard gunfire in our alleyway. We looked out the back window and saw an individual tearing across the alley chased by two men with guns. We reported this to the police and 911 responded. The officers drove quickly through the alley never stopping to talk to anyone, let alone warn neighborhood children who were playing in the alley to get inside. We actually had to demand that detectives visit us to take a statement. Again, these officers just don’t care and that is clearly deemed acceptable by Lanier and the Mayor. We must not allow this to be acceptable any longer. Success cannot be defined as anything short of absolute hell breaking loose in the city. I think many look back to the riots of 20-30 years ago and rest on their laurels that things aren’t that bad.

    Nate, my wife would never allow me to have a gun, but I see where you’re coming from. If a trained and skilled police officer had no choice but to shot the guy trying to rob him, what does that say for the rest of us? Guns should not be a necessary part of life, but until and unless MPD can get guns out of the hands of those who seek to do wrong and until MPD officers are required to protect the rest of us (not just themselves), the average citizen needs to do something.

    These rights of which we speak are the foundation to the social contract of which we are all participants. It seems to me that the “average citizen” here in DC is the only one upholding their end of the deal. The criminals, like children, want all the benefits, but none of the responsibility. Our politicians, public servants and the like are happy to cash our tax funded paychecks, but simply phone it in when it comes to their service. How about we switch over to performance pay? How about each time a MPD officer ignores a crime his pay gets docked? How about tying teacher salaries directly to literacy rates? As a citizen we have no choice but to pay our taxes, but when DPW fails to pick up our trash we should just understand they have a lot going on, right? When we get caught speeding and are issued a ticket, the expectation is that we’ll pay, but when an MPD officer refuses to get out of his car to investigate a shooting or even to pull over a driver who goes through a red light, that’s ok, right? No, absolutely not.

    Criminals and public servants alike need to be sent a message that their behavior does not meet the terms of the contract. If police won’t do their job, they should be fired. If Fenty won’t do his, he should lose the next election. And if criminals won’t stop, they need to go to jail. We need to send this city a message that everyone needs to play by the rules of the contract, or they are no longer entitled to its benefits. I am in no ways suggesting a Guantanamo approach to justice in DC, but let’s get tough, let’s make life difficult for those not doing the right thing. If our rights get inconvenienced, not denied, but inconvenienced in the process, let’s setup a mechanism to handle that, but doing nothing is no longer an option.

  • As much as folks really don’t want to believe it, the police have absolutely no responsibility to protect you. The case law establishing this was set here on Lamont St:

    Individuals need to step up to the plate for crime to really decline.

  • I posted my comment to show you how easily guns can come into the city. I am not an AL resident. Yet, I was able to go there and obtain a gun legally. Within 30 minutes! With VA/MD on our borders, it is foolish to think criminals won’t do the same. The fact that DC gov’t had the audacity to ban guns shows just how unwilling they are to confront the real issue.

    The fact is that young unprepared maladjusted mothers sending young hyperagressive young men out into the community to prey on people is the problem. That is not a police issue. Chief Lanier can do nothing to stop that.

  • ontarioroader, that case seems to state that victims of crime are not entitled to compensation from MPD or DC gov due to their crime, not that MPD is not responsible for protection. While this is a folly of an argument, the MPD Mission Statement says it is to “…protect [DC] residents…” Whether that translates into a guarantee of monetary compensation when MPD fails is another question, and generally nowadays seems to get addressed in civil court via wrongful death lawsuits. See DeOnte Rawlings case, if its still afoot.

    My only recommendation is we vote the mayor and all councilmembers out on a continual basis until we get at least someone who pays lip service to crime control. My secondary recommendation is to vote with your feet and get out. We don’t live in the cosmopolitan areas of DC that Fenty speaks of, we are third class citizens at best.

  • Nate, if you’re looking to show how easy some things are, gun acquisitions are pretty mundane, don’t you think? Try getting a DCRA building permit!

    Rather than go to Alabama for guns, try this method: contact a friend who is one of the millions of residents of MD or VA and meet them at one of the dozen or so gun shops somewhere right on the MD or VA side of the border. Hand them money and tell them what you want. I think we have a five day waiting period in both states, but that’s not much of a hold up. Its pretty easy.

  • Penny,
    I was back home in AL for a funeral. Just decided to buy a new gun to keep up with the firepower of the young’ins. My point is that drugs and guns are not going away. DC should stop hiding behind the gun boogieman and confront the real issue. Sadly, they won’t.
    In Alabama, the waiting period is less than 30 minutes. You can be packing before your lunch break is over. Guns are not the problem. Drugs aren’t either. People are. And DC just happens to have a a disproportionate number of bad people.

  • Excellent work ANC Commissioner Whiddon. As a constituent of ANC4D I appreciate the opportunity to voice my concerns to Chief Lanier. There are still are a lot of problems in this area that need to be resolved by both the Police and resident involvement.

  • @Pennywise: The method of buying a handgun you describe is called a ‘straw purchase’ and is a federal felony.

    I’d also be really interested to know how Nate purchased a handgun from Alabama. Either he’s got an AL drivers license still [and is now in possession of an unregistered handgun in DC] or he went by Pennywise’s straw purchase method.

  • Yes, it would be a felony. I’d vastly prefer an effective law enforcement regime protect me, as I pay taxes for. In lieu of that, I think we are all entitled to do what we feel we need to do to protect ourselves. FYI I have no handgun presently, but do have legally registered shotgun at home.

  • This thread has made me physically ill. I’m not joking.

  • About 20 years ago when I lived on Columbia & 14th, A DC Police Officer, on duty, actually advised me to buy a gun and told me where and how.

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