Friday Question of the Day

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Today’s FQOTD is something I’ve been curious about. By no means do I think the PoP readership is representative of all DC but we are a much more diverse group than most people realize. Anyway, folks say that DC is a very transient town. Then folks who have lived here a long time or all their life get pretty pissed off. So, I am just curious about your particular situations. I know it’s impossible to predict the future but I’m wondering how many folks plan on staying in DC for the longterm or eventually plan on moving somewhere else?

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  • Nice! you snapped that right behind my house. I am writing this and looking at where you undoubtedly stood. blagden alley is what keeps me in this city. best block in town.

  • Forever. I grew up around here though- the burbs aren’t transient, but the city proper is (among white people). Every city is for that matter, unless it’s a rust-belt town where nobody moves in and the people who are still there are the lifers. I’ve never been to a dynamic city in this country that isn’t transient.

  • For folks with kids, it largely depends on the trends of local schools.

  • I’m going to move to Massachusetts eventually, I gave myself 5 years to stay in DC after I graduated from college. Massachusetts is my home, all of my family is there, and it’s where I want to raise a family. I love DC, but I don’t see myself spending the rest of my life here, raising kids in the city proper, and I don’t want to move to the burbs. In Mass, I can live in Boston or Cambridge, live in the city and still have a decent public school system to send my kids to. It’s also just where I want to live the rest of my life. I’ll still have a place in my heart for DC, but I just don’t see myself living here forever.

  • As long as I’m here, I think I’ll live in the District, but I might eventually move back to Pittsburgh, for the exact same reasons u street girl cited about Massachusetts.

  • I’ve been here 15 years or so and give myself another 5. I miss hill country and venison flapjacks and the like.

  • My parents were New Yorkers who came to work for the federal government during WWII and stayed in DC, where my brother and I were born. We moved to the suburbs in the 60s where I went to school and college. I’ve been back in DC since the 70s and haven’t left it. My children were born and raised in Petowrth, though we didn’t send them to the neighborhood schools. Back then there were no charters which try to function as free private schools if you get my comparison. We’re staying in DC, as this is our home.

  • Grew up in MD burbs. Moved to DC for school (UDC in the house!). Done with that now, married, own a home here, good jobs here for me and my wife, plan on staying indefinitely.

    Funny thing about moving to DC after growing up in the burbs is a lot of the people that you leave behind feel obligated to say “but I am sure you’ll come back when it is time to have kids, right?” Thanks. Now I have to stay to make a lifestyle statement? Its an odd feeling of pressure. I liked where I grew up. I like it here, too. I plan to stay because having lived in both settings I have concluded that where I am at now is better. It sucks that this decision of ours will be interpreted as much more than it is.

  • I’ve been here almost three years and I’ve been saying for at least two years that I’m leaving. The economy tanking isn’t helping me achieve that goal.

  • I’ve left here once, thinking there was no way in hell you would ever see me here again. Not two years later I was back. This time I plan to be here through the end of 2009 then I’m off to places unknown. Though this time I’m a bit more pragmatic and have fallen in love with DC so I won’t vow to never return.

  • born and raised here. bought a house here after college. DC is not as transient as people think. for instance. in the black and even latino community familys have been here for a loooong time. If you are talking about whites consider this. a large number of the whites that grew up in dc proper. like myself. ARE still here. and we love it. a very high number of people I went to highschool with. public school. those scary scary dc public schools…. are still here. the reason people think its transient is because there just werent that many white people that grew up here in the first place. so MOST of the white people in dc now are of course transplants. but that is true of most cities.

  • I’ve been here for a decade, and I don’t have any desire to leave. I moved here from rural western PA, which is a beautiful place to visit, but the economy there is nonexistent and I think it would be a miserable, depressing place to live now. I hated living out in the Virginia suburbs, but I’ve come to love living in the District and couldn’t imagine living anywhere else. I feel like I’m in the minority, though. I know a lot of people who move here with big expectations and love the place at first, but after about five years, they get tired of it and can’t wait to get out.

  • I moved to MD for grad school (UMCP) and spent more of my free time in DC than MD so figured I may as well move into the city. I’ll definitely be here another 5-7 years while finishing up, and I would -like- to stay beyond that, but it depends on where the jobs are when I’m out. NARA makes it a good bet that the jobs will be in the DC area, but like U St girl I’m a Masshole at heart and I’m not sure how many more of these snow-less winters and soupy summers I can stand.

  • This is my third time around in DC. First time I came here was voluntary, but I left first chance I got. By dumb luck, my next job transferred me down here, I left dc and that job a few years later. Then, in a sign that God hates me, the next job I had eventually transferred me down here again.

    I think because I started my career here every employer thinks I’m some sort of policy expert who should be representing them in dc. I feel like Michael Corelone in Godfather III: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. i’ll probably leave again in the distant future, but keep my house this time just in case I get yanked back down here. It’s not that I hate DC, but i’m a midwesterner at heart and there are just other places I would prefer to live and work.

  • @anonymous 9:41 – where is western PA? I grew up in western PA as well and am just curious about your hometown. And totally agree with you – western PA – great place to visit – not a great place to live.

  • I’ve been here for 8.5 years so far – that surprises me every time I say it, as I only expected I’d stick around for the three years it took to finish law school when I first moved to DC. Now, my job is here, my husband’s job is here, and they’re not easily transferable to another place. Most days I love the city, sometimes I hate it, but even when I hate it I can’t imagine where else we’d go. We’re expecting a baby in a few months, though, and while we’re really hopeful about finding a decent-enough school, that’s probably the one thing that would make us move out of the District.

  • Venison flapjacks? Nasty.

  • Vonstallin

    As Ive stated many times b4…
    I will live and Die in DC….

    DC 4 Life !!!!! Baby….

    Born and Raised here, brought my house here. The only thing that might…and thats a big might make me move is if I marry and my woman put a foot down, but most women I meet will know im a Lifer.

  • Vonstallin

    Jamie Says:
    February 6th, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Venison flapjacks? Nasty.

    Good thing this is a “Clean” web site, because i can take Venison flapjacks and go places with it. lol

    I think I had some Venison flapjacks last night after the gym. 😐

  • To quote Yogi Berra, “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

    Have previously lived in the burbs and on large farms miles from the next house. It’s horribly boring. I love that I can walk everywhere I want to go, and that there’s so much activity in the city. And DC is one of my 3 favorite places in the world. The other two are Paris and New York City. As far as a place to live, DC somehow wins out. I think much of that has to do with being so close to all the political action.

  • To quote Yogi Berra, “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

    Have previously lived in the burbs and on large farms miles from the next house. It’s horribly boring. I love that I can walk everywhere I want to go, and that there’s so much activity in the city. And DC is one of my 3 favorite places in the world. The other two are Paris and New York City. As far as a place to live, DC somehow wins out. I think much of that has to do with being so close to all the political action.

  • From the Boston area originally. Went to school in the ATL, then made a geographic compromise and hit up DC. Good public transportation – as I don’t own a car – and enough decent food establishments to keep me happy.

    All cities are transient to a degree, but I can sense amongst the younger crowd it is even more so – e.g. people heading to grad school, etc. However, I’m content here for a little while (I hate the physical process of moving). But I don’t foresee staying longer than 5 years.

    DC lacks ocean and nice weather. And I hate the humidity in the summer here – it’s a fckin swamp…

  • Kay: I grew up in Mt. Morris, PA, on the WV border. The middle of nowhere.

  • I’m in the I have no idea category. I had a transient childhood, settled in Chicago and loved it. For a decade, and then one day I just couldn’t stand it anymore. I have only been in DC for a few months, and I haven’t contemplated whether there might be future moves. I certainly haven’t planned out “I will live here when I am single; I will live here when I am married; I will live here when I have kids”.

  • I’ve lived in DC for about 17 years and I’ve had it and want to move. My family is not so desperate to move.

    I’m interested in the above comment, “one day I just couldn’t stand it anymore.”

    That is what happened to me- over a 3 month period in 2007 I went from “I love this exciting city” to being angry all the time about everyone around me.

    The only positive thing about DC is that everyone you meet has a graduate degree so you don’t need to dumb down your conversation.

  • I’m a fourth generation white Washingtonian. I went to Chicago for college and never imagined I would return to live here. But I got sick and wanted to be near my family, so I moved back. I then found my boyfriend, and we bought a house in Hill East – we love it and our neighborhood, so we don’t see ourselves ever moving.

  • “but I am sure you’ll come back when it is time to have kids, right?” Thanks. Now I have to stay to make a lifestyle statement? Its an odd feeling of pressure. I liked where I grew up. I like it here, too. I plan to stay because having lived in both settings I have concluded that where I am at now is better. It sucks that this decision of ours will be interpreted as much more than it is.

    One of the more eloquent statements that sums up the reality of living in DC.

    Just because racists hated Mayor Barry, does that mean I have to support that criminal jerk who out Blago’d Blagojevich for the last 30 years?

    When I see everything that the kids get to do in other counties it’s embarrassing how little DC does for the kids. Did you know Fairfax county has TWO low-cost water parks for the kids? Does DC have one single water park?

  • my original intent was to stay here for 5 years max. well, i’m going on 12 and i honestly am not sure when i can leave. we own a house, but more importantly (or even worse, i suppose), is that my job is so dc-centric, i’m not sure i could do it anywhere else. there go my dreams of getting out of here…unless i miraculously become independently wealthy. powerball, here i come…

  • Lived in DC for about 4 years but had to go when my husbands job moved. Still have a house there and hope to move back some day sooner than later. I’m kind of a DC evangelist now- telling everyone how much I loved living there and how great it is. And then I read PoP posts/comments on dog parks or new restaurants that aren’t cheap/local/authentic enough and remember how snarky and nimby DC people can… so then I remember that DC isn’t perfect, and that other places in the country are pretty cool too!

    One things for sure though- its a city that reminds you you’re alive- a place where you’ll never feel bored, never feel smarter than you are, or complacent with your personal development, and that will constantly challenge you. Heh- kind of like a good mate?

  • Neener. here you go sounding like an idiot again. “show me one waterpark in dc!” how often are you gonna go to the water park? and of course there isnt a waterpark in dc for christs sake. its a city. thats like saying “show me one tacky strip mall in dc”. The burbs are different than the city. if you want the burbs. go to the burbs. nothing is stopping you. You can also. ya know. drive to the waterpark. when you want to go there. I mean I drive to Kings Dominion. but I wouldnt want to live near it. if you have to live next door to a waterpark then no. DC is not for you. But if thats the game you want to play. show me one free zoo in arlington? show me one free museum in arlington?

  • The economy is great. The city is fairly affordable. The weather is moderate enough for a southern guy. I’m here until the economy peters out.

  • Neener
    State of the Art Aquatic Centers:
    Spray Parks-,a,1239,q,640223.asp
    And more on the way… we don’t have more public amenities than the burbs quite yet, but we will someday soon. I for one am staying along for the ride…

  • Born here but grew up in the midwest. Moved back 7 years ago and as a relatively new homeowner I don’t see us moving for a long time. If a child comes into the picture then, as someone said above, the state of the schools might force us to reconsider.

  • I’m feeling a bit old – both because of the question and the responses. I’d love to know the flip side – how long have people been here?

    As for me, I moved here in 1989 (it doesn’t seem like that long ago, until I start thinking about my 20th college reunion in June), intending to stay a couple of years and then go to grad school. Well, I ended up at Maryland for grad school and now it’s 2009 and I’m a home owner. In two years I will have lived here longer than in Massachusetts, where I grew up (Chicopee here – suburb of Springfield), and that is weird to me, because I’ll always be a New Englander at heart, but DC is now my home.

    I came close to making the trek to gay Mecca – SF – right after I came out, but now I just make an annual pilgrimage. Every summer I also insist I am leaving this infernal swamp, but the rest of the year is so nice that I always get over it. I have moved between the city and the close -in burbs (and I mean close – the farthest away from DC I’ve ever lived is three houses over the Maryland line) over the years, but ended up buying my house in Petworth after 9/11, the anthrax attacks and the snipers – those damn terrorists aren’t going to make me run in fear!

  • I have lived here for three years, and don’t have anything firmly planned that would result in me leaving. I really do love DC, and while I love Boston (my hometown) I don’t really have an urge to move back there. But, all that being said, I don’t imagine myself being here for that many more years. I moved here on a whim (well, kinda, I was a political science major, so it made sense as a destination) and have met wonderful people and enjoyed wonderful (as well as wholly negative, natch) experiences. But, being that I work in the political and non-profit worlds, my friends fall into one of the more transient groups. I figure if I make another whim of a move, it should be before I’m 30 or so. That gives me a couple more years. And grad school somewhere else is a distinct possibility, too.

    Is it weird that typing all that out makes me feel slightly disloyal to a city I moved to with the intention of leaving within a few years? I have now outstayed my original timeline.

  • I’ve lived in the DC area most of my life, moved to Vienna when i was 4, lived there until 10, spent 4 years in Atlanta and then back here until college which i spent in rural central pa. I moved to DC proper last year and will probably move back out to the burbs when my lease is up. My family is here. I love the idea of living in a city but to be perfectly honest DC is beautiful but its a starter city. In my opinion, Its for people who want to live in a city but are easily overwhelmed someplace like NYC or San Francisco.

    I live on the Hill and its beautiful but if I want to buy more groceries then marshmallows and toilet paper I need to use my car. In DC its some how this badge of honor to never use your car/sell your car/use zipcar. I don’t drive to work or drive to the 7/11 up the block but I don’t want to be made to feel guilty when I want to buy canned goods at the grocery store and not schlep them a mile home. (i tend to shop a month at a time to save money)

    I like being in the center of political action and right now I need to be here because my job is not easily marketable in other cities. However, I don’t like DCites need in political circles to spend more time networking and less time having actual interpersonal relationships. There is so much power hungry climbing all over each other.

    I am planning to go to graduate school in the fall locally for social work which will free up my ability to move somewhere and get a job. I welcome the opportunity to try somewhere else out.

  • I’ve been here on and off for about 17 years. I’m originally from Pittsburgh (lots of Western PA people commenting today) and when I left I knew I would never go back. I’ve left a few times for Budapest, Dublin, San Francisco and Baltimore (although, for about half the time I lived in Baltimore, I worked in DC), but every time, I’ve come back to DC. DC feels like home to me – far moreso than Pittsburgh ever could. I just got back yesterday from a trip up there to visit my dad, and as always happens when I go up there, I was itching to get back home to DC.

    And, for the comment about “when are you coming back to have kids” – that doesn’t just happen in the near suburbs, and isn’t uniquely DC. I hear that from my dad’s neighbors all the time (my father knows better). It’s like they feel like I owe them and their crappy little town something because it’s not said in a way that makes me feel like they just miss me and wish I were there – it’s accusatory and angry when they ask. Which just adds another reason why I’ll never ever move back there.

  • I moved here 10 years ago last month for an internship is Tysons… and now I’m married to a native, 24(ish) in-laws in VA, mother of two, navigating the schools, loving my neighborhood… DH loves his job and it’s pretty secure. We love the house, garden, views, museums, restaurants… I don’t know why people think it’s automatically crap here for kids. There are A LOT of DC natives out in the world who don’t claim to be from here. I’m always surprised. If it were anywhere by DC, Al Gore and John McCain would both be considered native sons – both spent the majority of their childhoods here in the area. I get cranky sometimes about how we lose natives but only ever gain folks who keep one foot out the door, always jsut about to move on to NYC or back to Portland.

    Be. Here. Now.

    JimmyD “It sucks that this decision of ours will be interpreted as much more than it is.” Amen! By living here, am I making some statement? I have no idea – I just like it here and the kids, they are doing fine. Living somewhere else doesn’t guarantee your kid won’t be a snotty delinquent. That’s up to the parents… and you can find stupid anywhere. I lived in a crappy southern town with ass-backwards public schools. I was bussed. I was beat up on the playground for being the only white chick around. Yeah – leaving DC isn’t some panacea of school solutions. Most school districts are not all rainbows and unicorns. Yes, DCPS is without a doubt in the pits, but nothing is ever so simple as “Here=bad. There=Good.”

  • I moved to DC from Chapel Hill NC about 15 yrs ago. Could never see myself going back to my hometown, as I call it, Greensboring NC. I love DC, I think I’m here (or at least inside the beltway) for life.

  • clearbluewater33, re: canned goods, that’s why you buy a shopping cart. I don’t even know how to drive, and I can still feed myself exceptionally well on the Hill.

  • This is a daily question. I’m in the “no idea” category too. I’m in no danger of losing my job (which is in the MD burbs). Indeed, I could have it until retirement, if I really wanted it, but I’m not sure that I do.

    But most of the time I think my answer to the question us “as soon as possible…” But without losing the shirt off my back (at the very least), that will not be any time soon:

    I just tried to refinance, but (surprise!) we were done in by low appraisal value. Still not under water, but after realtor’s fees and closing costs, we wouldn’t walk away with anything — certainly nothing like a 20% downpayment on the next house. So even moving to the burbs isn’t really an option now.

    I *think* my wife is safe enough in her job. And while our son is not in the DC public school system, there is the dynamic of what’s best for him/ her/ me/ us… Which often pull in different, if not opposite directions.

  • Nice that everybody thinks DC’s gonna be around forever.

    But for those not paying attention to current events: less than a month ago, the blue-ribbon panel on WMD proliferation said there’s even odds of a terrorist WMD attack “somewhere in the world” by 2013. And by “somewhere in the world,” you can reasonably assume they *didn’t* mean Stockholm or Djibouti; Washington, DC is either #1 or #2 on most every terrorist’s “To-Smite” list.

    So yeah, hang around DC all you like. Just make sure you’re renting. Because one fine day this decade or next, it’s likely that property values are going to go to zero about as fast as it takes the wind to blow north from downtown.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I ain’t betting the farm on it.

  • Been here for 8 years, and despite the misgivings of many, with our first child soon to arrive we have no intentions of splitting for hometowns or the burbs. Grew up in small town Connecticut, went to college in ATL – living there for a total of 8 years (no, not all in college), and then moving here for one of the many DC-centric jobs posted here. Roots firmly entrenched, and with my family having long since blown out of CT to various corners, there isn’t a ‘hometown’ for me to return to. I have seen DC improve over the course of my stay, and am hopeful that trend will continue.

  • Prince Of Petworth

    Hahahaha. By that mindset the entire island of Manhattan should move immediately…

  • anon: re shopping cart. I know i could buy a shopping cart and take the 2 buses to the nearest grocery store or walk the mile or I could hop in my car. I just don’t understand why i need to be made to feel guilty for driving to the grocery store or the two other reasons i use my car (to drive home to my parents in Vienna and volunteering at Walter Reed) If i lived in NYC sure, give me a hard time about owning a car, you don’t need one there, Public transport runs pretty much 24/7, there is a grocery store or affordable bodega on nearly every street corner and groceries can be delivered. DC not so much on any of those accounts.

  • saf

    First, PoP, haven’t you seen Fisher’s debunking of the transient myth?

    Second, we’re here to stay. The DH came here in 1982, I came in 1983, both of us just intending to go to college here. By the end of 1983, I knew I couldn’t leave here. It had become my home that quickly. We bought in Petworth in 1990, and lived happily ever after.

  • I came here in late 1999, my husband was born here. We aren’t going anywhere as it would be hard for him to recreate his music/performing network.

  • i moved here from to los angeles 3 & 1/2 years ago and told everyone i’d be here 2-3 years max. now i’m not so sure anymore. i’ve purchased a condo in petworth, i love my life and lifestyle, and i’m happy at my job – there’s no reason for me to leave. even if i had kids, i’d stay in the city and find some way to educate them, most likely through charter or private schooling.

  • I moved here a year and a half ago intending to stay only for graduate school, but I ended up getting hooked! I’m hoping to stay for at least the next 5-10 years, if not longer. Who knows?

  • Almost 2 years. I’m definitely transitory.
    Any property I buy here will be an investment but not necessarily a place to live.

  • Thanks Saf. thats a great link. Im anon 9:39. nice to know there is some proof supporting what ive been saying for awhile.

  • Grew up in rural MD (near PA), lived in NC, Boston, overseas, DC for grad school, overseas again, and back to DC.

    I intended to stay for a few years – that was twenty years ago (yikes!) & don’t see moving any time soon. Bought a house, planted a tree…

    My family is in MD so if I were to move anywhere it would be back to rural MD. Live on the farm, raise chickens, build a yurt.

  • i’m staying in dc.

    most people i know are not transient.

  • Let’s hear it for the Pennsylvanians – State College here! I’m going on 12 years now as a DC resident (with approx. 5 of that living on and off overseas in developing countries) and could never imagine living anywhere else in the US.

  • Told myself I’d stay for five years; I’ve got two left to go, then I’m out. I’ll miss some aspects of Washington — Central Michel Richard, Rock Creek Park, and the museums — but will be happy to find a place that has a.) four full seasons, b.) some civic pride, c.) competent municipal government, d.) fewer bigots, and e.) bagels.

  • Born and raised here, left for college, returned after checking out a few other cities over over a few years, and I’m back to stay. I love DC, even with all it’s gov’t ineptitude, crime and people who generally just don’t give a f*. I gotta say though, as someone who bounced around between public and private schools here, there’s no way in hell I’d send kids to public school if I ever had them. Not enough has changed in DCPS in the past decade+ since I left to make it worthwhile. My volunteer work takes me into schools I used to attend, and although there’s new paint on some walls and heat/ac works with more regularity than it used to, IMO you’re still setting your kids up for failure. Having been though it myself I wouldn’t hesitate to call it borderline child neglect/abuse. The idea of the charter schools is great, and hopefully the momentum and funding will be there in years to come, but I really don’t like this whole parallel track thing of public charter schools that are good and the ‘original’ DCPS that sucks.

  • I must say, this question has been one of the more interesting Friday Questions of the Day. Well done PoP.

  • Anonymous 10:53, I only sound “like an idiot” because you misunderstand my post. There are MOST CERTAINLY dumpy strip malls in DC- there was the Nehemiah Center on 14th St! the “state of the art” pools you talk about are not. But where you really fail is suggesting that living next to zoos is good but living next to a water park is not. Umm… why? The National Zoo pales in comparison to even the Baltimore Zoo- the National Zoo hasn’t been updated in basically 15 years and every thing they’ve done lately has reduced the animal population at the zoo every year.

    For instance, where are the giraffes and why won’t they be coming back?

    Sophia Girl is incorrect, moving across the border to Montgomery County or moving to Fairfax county are both immediate panaceas for school quality. All schools in those counties perform better than all but I think 5 dc schools. Both counties are across the board significantly superior to almost every DC public school, including charters. That’s what NCLB allows you to do- compare across boundaries.

  • ya see, the water park is not the issue as a water park itself, but unique and different accommodations for the taxpayers and their children is the issue. Why are kids in DC so evil? Is it because Barry took everything away from them? I think that’s the basic part of the story.

    I am not the sole owner of my house, so I cannot move at will, but I am now located in DC against my will.

  • Yes, Neener, its basically all Barry’s fault. He recreated a slave mentality among African Americans in DC. He also institutionalized his viewpoint by flooding DC agencies with his cronies, who will be there until they retire / die.

    My favorite quote from Barry of late (paraphrased): the Franklin homeless shelter must remain a homeless shelter as it offers the best panhandling in the city.

    Imagine the repercussions when a councilmember advocates for begging. Not that I am against charity, but charity expected is a form of bondage, just like the whips and chains of yore. And I ain’t makin’ sexy talk here…

  • Put me in the category of “in DC against my will”. Like Neener, I’d have moved already if it was only up to me, but my wife won’t move.

  • neener-you continue to sound like an idiot fyi. your children will thank your wife up down and around for putting her foot down when she tells them in highschool that daddy tried to move them to virginia when they were little. I still remember the house I went to see in rockville with my parents when i was five. I thought it was pretty cool that it had a sweet yard. In the end it was my father who said no cause he didnt want to commute. we didnt suffer as kids. we played in parks instead of yards. and when we got old enough to understand things. and it occured to us we came that close to growing up in the burbs. phwew is all i have to say. add to that my parents house is now worth over a million dollars. I could look up the address of the rockville house and let you know how its doing… I also like how you use the Nehemiah center to make your point. yet it has already been demolished to make way for new development. I know there are others like it but they too will be replaced. And have you been to the zoo? the asia trail rules. and they are redoing the whole zoo top to bottom with a freakin ariel tram. seems pretty cool to me

  • Several generation white native here!! DC like every city has urban issues. But after pretty extensive travel I find coming back to DC refreshing and welcoming. People in DC are generally hospitable and neighborly and truly care about this city (although when I talk about DC to out of town friends I generally call it a small town) and one another. Unless you have been here for a long-time you have no idea how much things have changed in the last 20 years–and it is not race driven…it is mainly younger people (of all races) believing in the viability of the city–and how much damage we have done to the environment with suburban sprawl–and don’t even get me started on the McMansion mindset outside the city. Wrapping up I’d like to give props to PoP–because this blog actually highlights the beauty and details, in not just the architecture but the people, that make this city-town a special place to call home.

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