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  • hittin’ up Ballston again I see…

  • no, but the rich built a target in the middle of CH. they also put a gas station in on U street (and in Dupont Circle), and a convention center in the middle of Shaw. nationals park has ruined a nice stretch of waterfront that could have been used for a myriad of other development options, including ones that would have allowed small businesses to flourish. The rich demanded a freeway through northeast, and drowned out the protests of residents whose neighborhood was ruined. The rich oppose the purple line rail, choosing instead to advocate separate and unequal transportation options, a socio-economic form of vandalism. The rich stamp generic condos all over ward 2, making 13th street look uniform and plain, and forcing ant-like architectural conformity on locals. The rich price out the creative class. The comparatively rich price out people who’ve lived in a neighborhood for generations, including in Petworth.

    This is just DC. You should stop walking around, put your camera away for a day, and drive to Scranton. You want to see vandalism, go to Scranton. Better yet, go to Detroit. Or New Orleans. The rich pack up and leave everything behind like litter.

    The rich vandalize the planet. If you think otherwise, you are living in the dark.

  • hmmm – but the not-rich in my neighborhood throw their trash all over the ground, dump the used oil from their cars down storm drains, have no regard for recycling laws, leave TVs with lead and mercury in them in the Anacostia -I could go on

    My point is that humanity vandalizes the planet. We all need to do a better job.

  • anon @ 9:55: slow down, you might spill some of your soy milk on your che guevara t-shirt.

  • “but the rich built a target in the middle of CH.”

    Yeah, because nothing says screw the poor like giving them access to quality affordable retail in their own neighborhood on previously vacant land. Sheesh.

  • ugh… anti-development people…

    your act is so tired

  • 9:55, I vote for the most confused post of the week.

    I think I “Get” it that while all of us in DC know that the poor people do most of the littering and vandalism (or most importantly they don’t plant nice gardens and perform lead abatement on their property) we tend not to consider the actions of rich people as vandalism. I’d suggest instead that the general public really does hold the rich accountable for things like strip mining and off-shore oil drilling and you’ll see even serious conservatives in Haymarket, VA organizing to stop commercial development of farmland or civil war battlefields as a kind of vandalism.

    As opposed to this being a soy latte kind of comment there are probably as many or more conservative anti-development folks in suburban DC than there are liberal ones inside the city.

    But the rest of the post, with commentary like the “rich price out the creative class” is just ignorance. I know three 1980s punk rockers who still live in DC who are millionaires because TIME PASSED and they sold records every year and banked the money. I know, off the top of my head, at least 20 serious creatives from my high school days who are millionaires, multi-millionaires and one who probably made a deep 9 figures. So which one are they, the creative class or the rich? If you clocked in $25 million writing songs can you still call yourself creative class?

  • give anon @955 a break. s/he’s clearly looking at this from a worldview that is way too large for the nature of this blog. A lot of the development in DC has been good for the city, no doubt, but many have surely been affected for the worse. I think that is where s/he’s coming from. Probably a Che type, but it seems (from his/her endorsement of the purple line LRT) that s/he is not anti-development, just anti-stupid development (a la nationals park). We should all be anti stupid development, especially as DC enjoys relative prosperity in extremely difficult times for many.

    @Neener: I’m sorry, you do not know “one who probably made a deep 9 figures.” U2, the richest group in the world, are worth around 150m as a franchise, meaning they are all worth mid 8 figures. hyperbole; everyone would know a DC act worth more than U2. also, are you seriously complaining that poor people don’t plant nice gardens? Did it occur to you that poor people might be a little pre-occupied with, oh, I don’t know, trying to keep food on the table and the heat on? If anon has a point, it is right there, complaining about a class dynamic in this city that is highly evident and quite intense.

    @POP: This is a wonderful blog that makes me proud of living in this city. As a lifelong resident, I feel that you and your contributors have helped to make DC a truly wonderful home. That said, you should probably stay away from any sort of (even remotely) social commentary like this. It is a sensitive topic for many, and that shouldn’t be what this blog is about. Just my humble two cents.

  • I definitely knew a songwriter who made 9 figures. I know this for an absolute fact. U2’s earning power cannot compare to the Beatles or Elvis, so not sure why you quoted them as top earners unless you meant they earned that much in 2008. I think Bowie, Elton John, the Rolling Stones, all have clocked 9 figures over their careers.

    I was well aware of what I was saying and how it would be interpreted as an IRONIC RESPONSE TO 9:56.

    The only poor families on my block aren’t OCCUPIED with a darn thing let alone pre-occupied with anything. If you can spend all day sitting on your stoop selling drugs and drinking from a bag and throwing empty chip bags on the ground and drawing graffiti on the school playground- and I’m talking about a couple very real families here- I doubt you’re preoccupied with anything. While you may have real families in mind who are struggling to get out of poverty, I know others who aren’t struggling at all and who asked to borrow money to pay their tax bill once around 2001- and I almost lent them the money!

    The fact is, and part of my post was, that neither the poor nor the rich ARE anyone. I knew two rich college graduates that called themselves poor all over DCist a few years back because they couldn’t afford a house or car or live in their parents neighborhood. I was even one of those people back in the early 90s. Trust me, they were rich even though they called themselves something else partially because they’ve got an upward trajectory prompted by their education.

    My comment about the Old Money vs New Money fights in Haymarket, Manassass, etc, was meant to illustrate how there is no rich or no poor in any kind of meaningful way because it’s too fluid.

    9:55 is just a wise fool- sort of getting that there’s more to the world, but not seeing the clear illogical conclusions that they’re drawing.

    Starting with totally missing the point of how much Nationals Park rocks and that’s their loss that I don’t have the tolerance to educate them about. But it’s their loss, not mine.

  • I really don’t know why I’m defending this kid, maybe because I see a bit of him/her in me, but neener, you are underscoring my point: class differences in this city are evident and intense. I disagree that they are as fluid as you propose. Every indicator out there suggests that the divide between rich and poor in America is larger and more impenetrable than ever before. Income inequality and social immobility in America is more pronounced than it is in Turkey and Mexico .

    Outside of its entertainment value for fans, Nationals Park does not “rock” in any sense of the word. It has been a huge problem for the city since its completion, starting with a big gunfight over tax revenue, issues over the employment of non-DC residents (a major stipulation when they drew up contracts), eminent domain fights, preservation fights. There were probably better things the city could have pursued, or at least pursued this with the idea of a better form of development (like the phone booth in chinatown, which is generally awesome). A great writeup from GGW illustrates how cities almost never see a return from a stadium.

    OK, I am willing to believe that you know a songwriter worth nine figures: who is it? A quick scan of the DC Music Atlas suggests you might be friends with Henry Rollins, Nils Lofgren (of BS & the E Street Band) or Dave Grohl. Good for you, but none of these guys are worth a deep 9. I don’t mean to prod, but if there is a DC based songwriter worth a deep 9, I’d like to know about it so I can brag to my NYC friends 🙂

  • I grew up in a middle class neighborhood that turned over into an upper class neighborhood. I was a punk rocker and never got a “real job” for years which means that while I had something close to an upper class frame of mind I was not materially wealthy. Later I worked like heck to get myself “Back on track” including grad school. I married a woman whose parents were both high school dropouts and are really, truly working class- like “Mom watching neighbor kids in her house” working class. Her brother manages someone else’s gas station.

    I was once friends with Kurt Cobain and Coutney Love. She had at her disposal something like $144 million total at one point. Blown or not blown that’s the kind of money she had.

    I don’t think Rollins made that much.

    agree to disagree.

  • (my point about my wife was to illustrate that she basically broke through the barrier after I reset my goals)

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