An Afternoon at the Capital City Market by Nichole

Warning: Some of the images contained herein might be upsetting, particularly to any vegans/vegetarians. I don’t know. Just felt like I should disclaim it.


There’s more than one Market in the East. On a recent Saturday afternoon, I ventured over to Florida Avenue to check out the Capital City Market. Roughly bounded by Florida Ave. NE on the South, 6th St. NE on the east, Penn St. NE on the north and the FL Ave. Metro on the west, the Market was originally located on the National Mall (somewhere near around Federal Triangle) and was relocated after World War I to make way for the Mall we’re all familiar with today.


I started my journey at Obeng International Wholesale, one of the few places still open so late in the day. (Things get rolling over there before dawn. If you’ve eaten in a restaurant in DC or grabbed something at a corner bodega in town, you’ve likely eaten something with a Cap City Market pedigree.) I was greeted with long lines of folks purchasing sacks of rice, dried fish, smoked goat meat and other West African specialties.


They also have hard chicken, which I swear I’m going to make my best efforts to stew this fall, but my ambitions this time of year don’t run quite as rampant as they’d need to for me to take on West African cooking for the first time. That said, I wonder if I could use a hard chicken in my paprikás, particularly if I slow cooked it for a day or two (obviously before adding the requisite sour cream)? I digress of course, but this is what I love about the Market – it always gets me to thinking about things, whether I like it or not. And it always makes me nostalgic for the markets of my past: the Strip District back home in Pittsburgh, the Nagycsarnok next to my apartment in Budapest, Lexington Market up the street from my office in Baltimore and the docks across the street from my place in Half Moon Bay, CA (which, when the boats came in, was the best fish market you’ve ever seen). I seem to gravitate to these places without ever really meaning to. Some people get excited about a new Harris Teeter; I get excited about someplace where I can get rabbits for 4.99/lb.  Story continues after the jump with tons more photos.


Moving on from Obeng’s, the next stop was DC Farmer’s Market, which is a cornucopia of, well, meat and other stuff (more on this in a moment). All makes and models. The vendors are eager to help (and sell you a sack of ribs, chicken feet, or pig ears) and answer any questions you might have.




(“Sir? Yes. Can you tell me what one does with turkey tails?” “Yes, ma’am. Usually you bake ’em.” “Thank you sir.” “Want to buy some to take home and try out?” “Maybe another time, there are some Rocky Mountain Oysters over yonder calling my name. Thanks for the info though!”)


In addition to the meat emporium, you can also buy fake Coach purses, fake Crocs, ladies’ underwear, and pickled everything.



The DC Farmers Market is a bit like a microcosm of the whole market – you want it in bulk for cheap? You got it.


Leaving the Market, I wandered through the flea market outside, but it was shutting down. My last stop was to be A. Litteri’s for an Italian sub, but I arrived to see that it was closed. This made me sad, until I remembered that my schedule this week would allow me to return when it reopened on Tuesday. I figured this would also give me a chance to hit some of the other places that had closed while I was still enjoying Saturday brunch at the Derby.

Returning Tuesday morning was a different experience. The Market was busy with folks packing and unpacking crates and generally walking about with a purpose. I’m not sure if it’s because people are super friendly, or if I looked out of place in my suit and heels (I was en route to the office), but everyone was interested in helping me find what I was looking for. First stop was Best Equipment.

I’d heard a lot about Best Equipment in the past, but on my many trips to the Market, had never quite made it in. This time it was open, and I was in heaven. Now, I can’t think of a reason that I need a wok bigger than I could possibly hold in my arms, or a measuring cup of roughly the same size, but seeing it all there, laid out in front of me for purchase was almost enough to convince me that my kitchen was sadly incomplete without these items.



Instead, I refocused. What is the one thing my glassware has been missing for years? The thing I’ve been looking for around town at bars and restaurants alike for as long as I could remember (and where I’ve thus far only found at the Raven)? That’s right – old man beer glasses. You know, tiny pony glasses. They’re quite popular in corner bars in blue collar cities like Baltimore and Pittsburgh – but DC just isn’t “corner bar” like that and asking for a “small beer” is confusing to even the most knowledgeable and congenial barkeeps. So I made my way to the back of Best Equipment and it was like God’s own light shone down from Heaven illuminating what was to me at that moment the most beautiful selection – yes, selection – of old man beer glasses!


I gathered myself 4 “174s” and contemplated just making it a dozen, but now that I know where to get them – and get them in bulk if I so choose, at that – I figured I’d start reasonable. Moderation and whatnot. I continued to wander around past the basket o’ whisks, (for reference, because the picture doesn’t do it justice, the tallest came up to my shoulders; I’m short (5’3″) but that’s one hell of a whisk)


the aisle of knives, the wide and varied apron assortment, pitchers as far as the eye could see, and colanders that wouldn’t fit in my grandma’s stationary tub, let alone my tiny little kitchen sink. As I was checking out, I was chatting with one of the owners about heading to lunch. I was Litteri’s bound; but she almost persuaded me to trade my Italian sub craving for Korean (which in truth, I’ve also been dreaming of lately) over at Young’s. Since I know a couple of people who would be super angry if I ate Korean food without them (and a couple others who were going to be sad if I didn’t pick them up the subs I’d promised them) I stuck with my plan. Before moving on though, I asked what she thought of the New Town plan which is the public/private development plan being pushed by the city for the market. (Click the link, and some of the links contained therein for details. The long and short of it though is basically Mixed Use in, historic market/small business out, or at least confined to one corner of the new development. I’m going to do my best to keep my opinions on the plan to myself, but I love the Cap City Market more than little tiny beer glasses (that’s a lot of love, friends) so you might be able to guess where I stand on the issue.) The folks at Best Equipment don’t seem to be concerned about the plan moving forward with any haste (it has, after all, been in the works for a few years now) and told me that they’d see me again soon – when I came back for lunch at Young’s.

Making my way back down to Litteri’s, I ran across Layla Lounge, which is a place I will surely never go unless dragged by a roving band of club-going (and club-wielding, if they expect to get me inside), table-service types. I note its presence, because it struck me as a little odd to have what appears from its website a pretty swanky club next to a joint that sells whole lambs and goats – even if this was a common occurrence back home. I thought it was weird then, but there are plenty of other bars in the Strip District – not so much in Cap City Market. Curious as I was, I was a woman on a mission – there were subs to be procured.

Entering Litteri’s is a little like entering Heaven. Sure the availability of every conceivable variety of pasta.


olive oil


and vinegar


is drool-worthy, but it’s the Italian Subs and assorted meats, cheeses and sausages that bring a tear to the eye. I knew I was already a little late to have entirely avoided the lunch rush, when I turned the corner to see the deli counter was already 2 deep with locals, MPD and DCFD.


I placed my order and got to snapping pictures and chatting up the regulars. The idea that Litteri’s would ever be victim to a city redevelopment plan was inconceivable to everyone there, none of whom wanted to bitch about it but rather chose to look at the bright side – we were all in line for the greatest sandwich in DC. And if we so chose, we could also pick up 5 pounds of the best Italian sausage (made fresh that morning) or a ½ pound of mortadella (or sopresatta or capicola). When I got my sandwiches (two 12″ Italian subs on soft rolls) I set to stocking up on my pasta supply, but then remembered that I had a job to get to, so I left and was on my way.

I don’t want to get into all the implications of the Market being redeveloped. I know that any thoughts I have on the matter stem from my heart and stomach and not from my head (the livestock equivalents of all of the above are of course on offer at the Market). In the meantime, I’m going to encourage everyone who hasn’t to check it out in case it’s not there much longer.


(I never even got to mention any of the number of places to get fresh produce of every conceivable variety, not to mention Central and South American sausages and cheeses, any sort of noodle or rice you can think of, and pretty much all things delicious. Including it all in one post is a near impossible task. More reason for you to go check it for yourselves.)

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  • Thanks. I live close and really should go by more. My neighbors rave about Litteri’s as well. I once had a client make me stop with them on the way home and take bags of spotty bananas (I made banana bread).

  • Oh no.. this means I have to get up early.. I had no idea these places existed (or, rather, did not know where something like this was)! 😀 One of the best and most useful stories on PoP ever!

  • not to stir up yesterdays gentrification blandification debate. But this is a good example of some city character that from what I hear will be razed to make condos in the not too distant future. Something like this should be protected. as well as the fish market in SW. further more they should both be given picnic tables and be allowed to serve draft beer… Baltimore has market after market and when I lived there I tell you nothing was better than having a big draft beer in cross street market. or a polish sausage in lexington market.

  • I think you will find wide consensus supporting the market’s survival.

  • gforgood. most people dont know it exists. and it is NOT user friendly. Be sure to take someone who knows where they are going or you will be lost. there was a great blog that had a map and interviews with some of the vendors but I cant find it at the moment. Here is a map from wapo.

  • I’m guessing the US Customs Service and/or health dep’t would have a great time there if they chose to stop by.

  • David – I thought that too, and from what I’ve heard at the market, that’s true. But going through the comments over at Frozen Tropics, I was surprised by how much support for redevelopment there is. Perhaps not New Town’s proposal per se, but for development of some sort, which would minimize the space available to vendors like the current occupants and/or price them out.

    Most of the support for preserving the market seems to be coming from outside the neighborhood. (At least this is what it seems like from what I’ve been able to glean anecdotally.)

  • This is the blog dedicated to the market:

  • It makes me sick. people think that condo after condo with ground floor retail will up their home values. DC really truely is going to be just like Northern VA in time. bleh. Is there any kind of petition set up? Is anything safe? This town is already getting too boring for its own good. we NEED markets. We need our HISTORY. or we are just another Ballston. what is wrong with people.

  • there was a great column in the post about all the great places in DC that have been shuttered in recent years. Ill try to find it. The sad thing is with DC being a city with a high turn over of transplants coming here for a few years and then moving on to the burbs to raise familys so few people will ever know they existed in the first place. Its as though DC is really being used and abused.

  • Great article…I had no idea this place existed and I will definitely check it out soon! I’ve been looking for something to fill the gap to trips back home and the Strip District; I’ve been craving a walk through PennMac, Wholeys, and a pepperoni roll from Mancini’s!!!


  • Nice post. I blogged about this market once before and I have to say some of the vendors were not pleased that I was taking pictures!

    Mmm…A. Litteri’s makes the best sandwiches!

    BTW whats with the links on the side of this post? a new neighborhood?

  • I used to go to the market every morning for breakfast while working as an intern during undergrad. 3 eggs, sausage, bacon, home fries, and toast all for $1.99!!! I decided then to never ask the obvious question. Ignorance truly was bliss in this case. All manner of activity took place during the 20 mins it took me to finish my ridiculously cheap breakfast — mostly prostitution and the sale of stolen goods. Bottles of liquor, cable boxes, and even children’s books. This place is definitely great for the adventurous.

  • you say that now Chewy but wait til they come for your Mancini’s!

  • Possibly the best post in the history of this site. I’m ashamed that I’ve never been to A. Litteris despite how many times I’ve heard so many good things about it.

    I found myself driving through what I now know is the market area one night a month or two ago as I was trying to find a fast way from the Hill to Petworth…I’ll definitely be back.

  • Chewy confirms age old theory that the reason DC is getting so boring is because all the transplants are from PA. pizow

  • Great post Nichole! And I’m not just saying that because I was one of the lucky ducks who received one of the procured subs mentioned in the post (yay me)!! And really it was one of the best italian subs I’ve ever had around here (and I grew up with an italian household that had balls of provolone and encased cured meats hanging in netting from the ceiling of our basement). It’s great to hear about the “diamonds that remain in the rough” of DC (even outside of the NW quad). These are the places that make cities and neighborhoods what they really are. A part of the history, a part of the community and a part of everyday life that often we here in DC get too caught up in the rat race and forget to take a look around to see it.

    And not that I don’t disagree with the downfalls of gentrification. But really, who here lives in neighborhoods of Petworth, Columbia Heights, etc would’ve moved there say 10 years ago? Do you all know what your neighborhoods were like back then? Some of them not so good. There is the good and the bad, and hopefully at the end there will be a balance. And I don’t think “balance” is having two Starbucks in Columbia Heights basically right across the street from eachother, or more and more and more condos. But show your support by going to places like this and other local haunts – support them by what they need to be supported by…I’m gonna say it *gulp*…money.

  • Yeah.. while it may be sad that this place may go due to condos or whatnot, I think it may be also a bit pretentious to jump on the sentiments of people who actually live close to it. Well, anyway, I won’t as I have never been and don’t really know what its like and what is the balance between all the pros and cons.

  • Chrissy: The answer is that the majority of people that live in PW were already here 10 years ago. Prospering businesses (even yet another “gastropub”) are always preferable to boarded-up commercial space, but DC is definitely a city that is teetering on the brink of being too generic in some places (the ironically named “Chinatown” being an obvious example). I come from a city notorious for destroying it’s past and building, building, building above all else — it isn’t all roses and frothy caffe lattes. One of the things Dire Wolf always appropriately mentions is that a certain type of building (generic-all-look-the-same-condos) and certain new businesses (another bar) appeal to a very narrow band of the public. But even beyond that fact, the new buildings going up are almost universally soulless, artless, and boring. Even if you are a fan of building bigger it’s really hard to be a fan of many of the projects here in DC. The large corporations behind them are squeezing every dollar out of the construction, every inch out of the space, and it shows — the results are often underwhelming. Most of the new CH metro-area buildings, for example, are generic, ugly, and soul-sapping — you could just as easily be in Crystal City. In a small place like DC it is easy to change the character of the city and lose what is unique and important when you replace it with suburban trash.

  • here here odentex

  • the former health inspector in me is feeling a little nervous about some of those photos…

  • Are some of you really that serious?!?! There are what, 3 or 4 new condos/apartments on 14th street in Columbia Heights? So what if they build a few of those? What are they hurting…what was there before that is so sorely missed? Are Target and the other stores hurting anybody? How about all of those jobs they have created for people in the city who wouldn’t have one otherwise? Why is it bad that people want to make CH a nice neighborhood by fixing up run down houses that have been in such disrepair for so long?!?!

    The only thing near me to go under was the 11th Street Deli and that was because there food was just OK and their service was even slower. And now people are upset because a wine bar is going in?!?!?! I know people who tried Columbia Heights Coffee but don’t go there because if there was more than 2 people in line it took forever to get your coffee. I still go to the corner stores near me if I need to pick up a couple of items, Arthur’s and the one at Park and 13. I eat the dumpy little Mexican joint (Deportivo Rincon?) next to Wonderland.

    Yeah, I lived in VA for 7 years before moving into the city just over a year ago. I didn’t really know what to expect. Why am I “suburban trash” for moving into a neighborhood that is supposed to be getting nicer? I like having a Target nearby so I don’t have to drive an hour plus when I need to buy things for the house. I also like not having to drive to work everyday, and I try to support the non-chain restaurants and stores in the area. Again, I understand the need for neighborhoods to maintain their character, but what was the character of CH prior to the gentrification? It is unfathomable to me that people get upset because a neighborhood is changing for the better, especially if it is done in a reasonable manner. I think a little patch of 14th street becoming a little commercialized doesn’t hurt the neighborhood one bit. Can someone please explain to me why so many people feel this way?!?!

    Sorry for the rambling; this just really pisses me off!!!

  • Odentex – I totally agree with you, just stating that part of preserving the city is getting out there and supporting it. It is sad to walk around and see some areas turn into what they have – I love my neighborhood in Mt. P and wasn’t too thrilled when the 3/4 million dollar condos (which all look the same) went up right next door and suddenly I’m finding people parking their Jags and mercedes in my driveway. I think posts like this are great because it does introduce parts of the city that some may not be aware of. So get out there people and get yourself a sub and/or some rabbit! 🙂

  • these markets are absolutely fantastic! definitely a foodie’s delight.

    excellent post, nichole! i am happy to be a “young’s” guinea pig. you know my love for “my people’s” cuisine.

  • chewy read slowly and digest. Odentex was bashing the design of the columbia heights buildings. thats all. Nobody is arguing that there is anything wrong with gentrifying vacant or abandoned stores. in the case of CH the buildings replaced vacant lots of long gone buildings. (for the record though there was a very cool market where DCUSA now stands. but again that was knocked down forever ago. ) In the case of this market though it would be a SHAME to have some bland condos take their place. that is history and character that would be lost forever. I am sure you would feel the same if pittsburgh ever starts gentrifying and kicking out all the places you loved growing up there.

  • Anon 12:29 – If people would actually move to Pittsburgh into condos, tents, huts, or yurts, I would be happy. Shit, I might even move back. It’s apples and oranges though. Besides – Pittsburghers would beat the ever living shit out of somebody who tried to take away Primanti’s or Mancini’s and probably not get a drop of blood on their vintage Jack Ham jersey.

  • Chewy: I think what people are reacting to is this tension where many people seem excited to see suburbanization of an area with new construction and other people see generic overbuilding by developers in it for the buck with no concern for the long term. While it may be progress to build on a vacant lot, CH wasn’t entirely a vacant lot, and this market on Florida that is the subject of this post is not a vacant lot.

    Also, a three other points: I wasn’t calling *you* “suburban trash”, I am calling the type of cheap construction I see around this town “suburban trash”. Take a breath, big guy.

    Secondly, it’s been covered here and elsewhere before, but the local building boom has not employed a lot of local people (if, by “local” you mean people who live in DC). This fact has been well documented in the Post as well, with the most obvious example being the stadium project that failed to employ DC residents as promised. I’m not saying that construction companies should have to hire from DC, I’m just pointing out that your contention that local construction has been a great economic shot in the arm for long-time DC residents is provably wrong. It’s also often mentioned that firms like Donatelli are “local” only in the sense that they aren’t from New York but rather VA or MD. Again, that’s not good or bad, just a fact. And while the new construction in places like CH has made life more convenient for Target fans and people who absolutely need to buy a $12 burger, and this development definitely boosted the perception of the neighborhood with some residents and a lot of outsiders, as DCDW and others often point out (while being shouted down by gastropub fanciers) this development hasn’t necessarily meant much for a lot of people who still live in the area — maybe the retail is better, but the offset in rents is a problematic issue for people who have lived here a long time. Again, I’m not saying that’s good, bad, or indifferent for the future; it’s just a fact. Neighborhoods change, and it may not be long before there aren’t many original residents in CH — other than those who live in the high rise and garden style public housing just south of the metro (good luck changing that). I think you have to take into account that not everyone sees this as progress. I’m personally split on the issue of overall change, but I’m not split on a lot of the new buildings — I think they are ugly and cheap looking.

    Third, I don’t think anyone has a problem with “fixing up run down houses”. Where has anyone said that? While I realize there are still some people who feel like those “gentrifiers” who come in are “invading” the neighborhoods, these are often the same sort of guys who are passing out the Final Call on the corner, and it seems to me that this is a resistively small % of residents. It could be that my neighbors secretly hate me and wish I’d move, but they do a good job of pretending otherwise. What I see, especially in places like Chinatown and the blocks around the CH metro, is not people fixing up old buildings while retainingthe character of the neighborhood (with pleasant exception of the Tivoli, which BTW was slated to be torn down before the city stepped in), but the rapid construction of bland, generic spaces. Maybe some people really like Crystal City and other pre-fab, faux-modern condo developments, but I don’t. If you close your eyes and could be magically transported to Houston, Miami, Pheonix, Los Angeles, Dallas, and a hundred other cities in the USA you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference based on the buildings that surrounded you.

    That’s what I am saying. I’m not saying you are a bad person because you want to see a revitalized city, I’m saying that these developments are tasteless (literally) and not progress over the old city scape of rowhouse blocks and low-rise commercial spaces – it’s very simple.

    The reasons why I like DC have to do with transportation, weather, and the uniqueness of a “small” city scape. If I wanted to live in a modern condo development I could do it in places that were a hellava lot cheaper, have better food (and retail), weather, and aren’t plagued with eastern “hospitality”. It may be that this old market needs to go so that people can have a condo right next to the ATF building and all the other boring, look-alikey building going on in “NoMa”, but that’s just not progress to me, even if I never set foot in the market.

  • I am all in favor of development. I am in favor of increased density. But these goals do not have to be met by way of knocking down history. I was so mad when AV Ristorante Closed. I know they decided to sell. But If I was the developer I would have worked it into the deisgn and built up ten stories. If I was mayor I would try and add 5 stories to downtown height limits. I would take bids to build up on bus depots and police stations and librarys. But I would not allow the citys treasures to be knocked down. its absurd that in historic districts like mount pleasant you cant so much as get new windows without answering to a historic review board but this whole market could be razed to make way for an ugly uninspired condo building? makes no sense.

  • Nichole, spare me, a hoard of tubby unemployed pittsburgh guidos can get between developers and a profit my ass. they will just go to the corner bar and cry about it. til that gets knocked down too. but then when would people ever start deciding to move to Pittsburgh

  • I shop at the various spots in the Market nearly every weekend. One issue that people are not really talking about is that, aside from offering many folks a taste of home that is rare in DC, the Market is one of the last places left in DC for families to get healthy staples like fresh meat and produce that are affordable. With the price of, um, everything going up these days, those of us who can’t afford/avoid on general principle Whole Foods/ fancy, overpriced farmers markets will be out big time if this place closes.

  • That’s my point Anon – people in Pittsburgh don’t have the luxury to whinge about what kind of new development there is because there is none. There is no economic opportunity and no one in their right mind wants to move there. The population is the second oldest in the country after Dade County, FL, with no influx of new growth.

    Anyway, this is super far off topic – I’m just saying that trying to compare Pittsburgh to DC is impossible because the circumstances are so completely different.

  • At the risk of getting a barrage of “stop being a gentrifying suburban trash yubbie white snob” comments 🙂 – do any of the vendors sell organic stuff?

  • cage-free bunnies

  • Too many anon’s to respond to…my comments were not specifically directed at any one person; it seems as if there is whole backlash about anything nice happening in certain neighborhoods around here.

    I enjoy one anon’s attempt to get a rouse out of me with your P-burgh comments; I merely commented on the original post about I missed the Strip back home and didn’t compare the two cities at all. But Nichole is 100% right, if something like that would happen, people in Pburgh would take action (not just the guidos, but the pollocks, micks, and all of the other hunkies), not call up their buddies and have a big drum circle to protest…well, maybe Rusted Root would have a drum circle!

  • Chewy i guess you havent been here long enough to understand how gentrification works. By the time they come for your lovable greasy spoons all the pittsburgh trash will have been replaced with condo dwelling latte drinking yuppies. So they wont be around to sport their wife beaters and raise their fists in protest. dont worry though one will survive a la Bens Chili Bowl. But only if they put some tofu items on the menu. ps yr an asshat.

  • Ok so this is a little outside of DC, but if any of you have ever been to the Burtonsville, MD Amish Farmers’ Market, I just heard from a coworker that they are closing it down! So, if you love them, or haven’t yet had a chance to love them, you may want to head out there soon before it is too late to grab a giant turkey leg, the BEST chicken salad, the fresh breads, and homemade pies, fried chicken, potoato wedges, fresh produce, meats, cheeses, candies…oh god, how could they do this to me!?!?

  • I want my sammie!

    Where’s my pay for being support in the photo shot?

    Great post Nichole.

  • Dare I say that people just like to argue on blogs. the fact is nobody here seems to actually be at odds. nobody has said development or gentrification is catagorically bad. the calls are for it to be RESPONSIBLE and to leave popular, historical, functional, places alone because without them this would be a town without a soul. But for some reason when that sentiment is stated these progentrifyers come out of the wood work and go berzerk as though someone is trying to knock the five guys out of their hand. can’t we all just get along?

  • Kalia – I have heard that. In some of the early discussions about renovating the Cap City Market, there was even talk of trying to relocate the Amish Market down here. I don’t think that would ever happen, particularly under the current New Town legislation, but I agree – that’s a great market; they have the best butter.

  • saf

    Chrissy – “But really, who here lives in neighborhoods of Petworth, Columbia Heights, etc would’ve moved there say 10 years ago? Do you all know what your neighborhoods were like back then?”

    Indeed, I moved here 18 (now almost 19) years ago. So yes, I would have, yes I did.

    And all the rest of you – if you’re interested in the market, and would like to hear about it from an expert, I believe that the market tour will again be part of Walkingtown DC this fall. Schedule’s not up quite yet. I think I heard that it will be available next week? So, look for the schedule soon at It will be the weekend of 9/20.

  • That area is a bit weird so I can see why those that live near would push for redevelopment. I am sure they like the market but they want more of what other neighborhoods have and don’t understand (don’t care, whatever) that the property values would rise to the point that some/many of the vendors can’t afford the area – after all that is why this is in that neighborhood in the first place.

    Gentrification is a double edge sword. The good is often a innocent casualty in the fight against the bad. People like the shiny new things, but still want what attracted in the first place.

  • So perhaps a re-phrase is appropriate to express the opinion I was going for – I feel that the people who have recently moved into these neighborhoods in their 20’s-30’s new to the city or settling down, starting a family, etc. would not have moved into these neighborhoods if they were in the same status as they were say 10 years or so ago. It does differ for those of you who have grown up in the city, or have lived there pre-whatever you want to call it so that doesn’t start some sort of backlash. I am sure that there are some who very well would, but I gather some would have looked elsewhere. Not trying to point fingers or make grand statements trying to blanket everyone in the same category. I’m sure there are some people who really wouldn’t care and would live there regardless. Personally, I can say that there are definitely areas that I walk through now that I did not go through by myself at night 10 years ago. I do like Anon 2:58’s statement: the calls are for it to be RESPONSIBLE and to leave popular, historical, functional, places alone because without them this would be a town without a soul.

  • Count me in as another person who loved this post- thanks for all the good info!

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